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The way the press release is worded, and obsidians insistence on an absolute ending, what are the odds this will be a new character? 21:38, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

Not a chance. It will simply be a side quest, just like all Fallout 3 DLC aside from Broken Steel. Ausir(talk) 21:48, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

A Better Reward

Obviously, for the sneaky, Gold Bars are a pretty sweet prize, but for those unable or unwilling to glitch these treats out of Sierra Madre, Dead Money left a lot of people feeling a bit unfulfilled. As I've suggested before, I think an electric hot plate in your Lucky 38 suite would be a great, utilitarian reward for completion. Any other ideas?

Man, so true. The Gold Bars are great swag and all, but if you're already good on caps, they're just safe stuffing and desk ornaments. Elijah's Robes are pretty cool (if you consider them a reward), but it sucks that they're faction-affiliated and so light on DT (it would have been sweet if Veronica could rock them. Or Vera's Dress, for that matter). An electric hot plate in the Suite would have been awesome. I don't know how absurd this is, but maybe even one you could pick up. I mean, it could be 100+ lbs. and therefore completely impractical to carry, but then it could be dropped in the corner of any safehouse. Aside from that, I kinda wish I had one of those hazmat suits the Ghost People wear, but it would make a useless reward since you're unlikely to ever encounter anything like the Cloud again. Plus, if we wind up seeing the Big Empty we'll probably find fresh ones there... The Commonwealth 15:13, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
I'd say the Holorifle is a damn good reward... and Sierra Madre Armour Reinforced is the highest DT light armour. Brightshade782 06:54, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
There is a way to get all 37 gold bars without console commands or glitches (sort of)

User:RoflBomb August 18, 2011

What to do with 37 Gold Bars

But, if you do get all 37 bars of Gold out of the Vault they do not have to be Safe Stuffers. First option to cash in a few bars is to visit the Holo Vendors inside Sierra Madre and exchange for Pre War Money. You can give at least two bars to each Holo Vendor and have Pre War Money that remains with the Vendor. You walk away with ~1000 Pre War Money for each Gold Bar, thus losing 35 pounds. Second, The Gun Runners respawn their inventory of Ammo, Guns and 8000 caps. Between the 8000 caps and various items you can buy, you may gt one bar sold per visit. Sergeant Daniel Contreras does as well. Depending on Speech skill you can get Quartermaster Bardon to sell you lots of ammo for your Gold. And all this before GRA add on, which will make available many more options to spend your gold. Then there is Lonesome Road. The three mods each for the Red Glare and the SMMG will use up four Gold Bars per weapon.

--Bartlmay 00:01, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Boneyard ?

Ho shit ! From the page Sierra Madre Casino, Sierra Madre is a municipality of Los Angeles, so perhaps a return to the Boneyard city of Fallout 1 ? It would be excellent to see the evolution of the Follower of the Apocalypse, of the Boneyard since Fallout 1 (120 years), Blades, Gun Runners etc... and can see some others old place of California ! I can't wait ! Itachou [~talk~] 01:18, November 18, 2010 (UTC)

I don´t imagine Dead Money being set in any previous area, the background story of DM dosen´t fit with eiter New Reno or Boneyard, as suggested. It will probably be set in a new area, the timeline starts to shift early, (1697) sooo.. there could be another casino, with the same name, in the Fallout universe than the IRL ones today. --CptStarfish 17:15, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

It's been confirmed to be in the Mojave Wasteland. --Kris User Hola.jpg 18:08, November 26, 2010 (UTC)


What is with Bethesda releasing DLC for the Xbox 360 first AGAIN!?!? Last time with Fallout 3 we PS3 users had to wait 6 months after the 360 release for them to finally come to PS3 and I personally felt cheated when the Game of the Year edition of Fallout 3 was released shortly after with all the DLC packs included with the game because not only did I have to pay a total of $50 for all 5 DLC packs but also the retail price of $60 for the game months earlier for a total of about $110 while someone could just by the GOTY edition for $60 (note previous numbers are approximations). What Bethesda and Obsidian should do is iron out all the numerous bugs that FNV is chock full of before even considering the release of DLC packs which is something I should point out Bethesda ultimately failed to do in Fallout 3 on the PS3. Even after Mothership Zeta was released there were still an unacceptable number of game crashes and freezes (i should also mention that Fallout 3 has crashed and or frozen on me more times than any of my other PS3 games combined with New Vegas being the only possible exception). I love Fallout 3 and New Vegas even more so I hope and pray that Bethesda has learned from their previous mistakes or that Obsidian can persuade them to because I really really don't want to be on the short end of the stick and have history repeat again. --BattleBen 06:53, November 18, 2010 (UTC)

ps3 flame lololololol

Shoulda bought an XBOX instead.

And nobody cared. EyeInTheSky
the ps3 gets more bugs because they have to recode it for the ps3. the 360 and PC have nearly the same coding. it's more difficult for them to convert for blue ray. also i believe that each console is getting their own DLC(which most likely will be on both after awhile). heard that months ago....that could change--Silverfox6000 04:54, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
The Xbox is an entirely different set of hardware from your standard x86(-64) based PC; the software is fundamentally incompatible and at the very least needs to be recompiled for each console's processor, but it's highly unlikely it's that simple. I doubt Sony's compiler is compatible with Microsoft's Xbox (or even their PC) compiler, and likely interpret the source code differently. Bugs on cross-platform games are inevitable. Blame the corporations that try to screw developers with the industry standard tricks :P
if your worried about the GOTY version....just wait like i do....when GOTY comes out sell your old copy and buy the GOTY version--Silverfox6000 04:57, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Agree with Silverfox6000. If you don't want to pay for all the dlc then wait for the possible GOTY Edition. But what your paying for is the ability to play it now, or in a few months because your on PS3. Something to keep in mind however is that while I love FO:NV It might not get a GOTY edition, though this doesn't phase me because I buy all the DLC the day they come out.

i think GOTY is very likely, Morrowind, oblivion, and fallout 3 had GOTY versions. i wouldn't see why they would treat this game differently--Silverfox6000 21:55, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

just a note..battleben, you do realize the information that this will be 360 exclusive in the beginning has been out for months right? either way ps3 has many games that surpass 360, in the end though i think we can all agree...pc gaming is still leet, nearly infinite mods that are alot of the time, better than many dlc's officially released! too bad i can't afford the 5k in parts necessary to make my comp good enough for pc Toolazytomakeaaccount 12:35, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

There are no good F3 mods until Grey Sky gets finished. I don't care how good the Institute might be. :/ Nitty Tok. 04:13, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I've known they've been doing this for a while, but I would still like to send a nice fuck you to our friends at Bethesda for being Microsoft's bitch. I will probably buy the DLC later anyway, but in the future I may not purchase any more of their titles.-- 04:07, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Cry me a river justin, your fault for picking the console with poor system achitecture and besides the deal is that the xbox gets it first and then everyone else gets it like 3 months later (I imagine it would take 3 month to convert the coding so that the ps3 can use it anyway). Summary: not a big deal, try waiting. Ouroboros Omega 03:58, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

"it would take 3 month to convert the coding" lolwut -- 22:04, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

I know waiting is terrible but if you think about it this way any glitch's that might occur in the Xbox360 version would most likely be fixed for the PS3 version. If that helps any

What are you complaining about? It's not Microsoft's fault that Sony won't pay the extra cash to get DLC upfront. Microsoft pays loads of cash to get DLC exclusive. So, unless you're willing to pay for Ps3 to get it earlier, you should suck it up or buy an Xbox. TractionEra 23.16, 08 December, 2010

If Microsoft really was getting the best deal, then Obsidian would have found some way to put console commands on the Xbox. I'm tired of hearing how PS3 owners are victims in everything. Cowboy the fuck up, and if you really want some good PS3 games, then buy some fucking PlayStation exclusives. God knows I would get a PS3 just to play Metal Gear Solid 4, and I got a PS2 just for MGS3:Subsistence. Just buy another console if this irks you so goddamn much. Most people have multiple consoles anyway. TJbrena 16:15, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

I wonder if OP ever though that maybe the fact that we pay to play on XBL could be a factor? Like TractionEra said, Microsoft pays buttloads of cash for exclusive DLC (at least on games that arn't XBox exclussive). Maybe if Sony charged for online then you would have it at the same damn time. Like the PS3's motto says, it only does everything. Not get DLC at the same time as X Box 360 is probably part of that.

I lol'd at this ^ and everytime an Anon tried to be smart too Ouroboros Omega 01:03, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

It's because PS3 sucks.--Never Summer 08:18, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

This page isnt for slaggin PS3 its seriosly unfair ps3 has to wait. I mean they shouldnt release it untill its ready for all platforms. P.S. PS3 IS WAY BETTER THAN XBOX 360,there I said it. PSN Dusty_Hammer.

I'm on PS3 too, and my mate has an Xbox. I really can't see much difference. As my friend says, the Xbox is like the rich man's console (You have to pay for Live, it is *apparently* less reliable (e.g. freezes more often, don't credit me on this)) while the PS3 is for people who either can't afford (from other stuff like bills and such) or aren't serious online gamers. As much as I hate waiting, like someone above said, if we payed for PSN, we'd probably have roughly the same release dates. All in all, the only better console depends on what you can afford, and what your friends have/ use most. Everyone's different. AR700SAW 22:36, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

I understand what your saying it just annoys me these guys are just being pretty lousy and it pisses me off

New Reno?

Okay random guessing here, but there's a grand sierra hotel in IRL Reno, and that's about the only major casino in any other city I could think of in nevada, so I mean that's gotta be a possibility right? Well, looking at the wikipedia entry for the book, one of a dozen gold nuggets could also be the setting...

The Courier has been to New Reno before so this would make sense, and going back to California would present problems because it pretty much has to be civilized (100 years) by now especially sense it's going to be so close to the Boneyard so sounds like a good possibility. --1stRecon 00:15, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Where did you get the information that the courier has been to New Reno (not doubting you just want a link so I can read it)

when talking to Bruce Isaac you get the option to say you saw his act in new reno

New Weapon?

Hey Guys if you look at the picture carefully you see what looks like a bear trap attached to the fist.

Yeah it definitely look like a bear trap. The pressure plate is right on the knuckles so it should snap shut when you punch somebody. I wonder if there will be an animation where the player opens the trap each time or if it opens automatically. Galacticprophecy 03:41, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I just added the assault carbine suppresor mod page since Sawyer confirmed it on his blog.--TacticalGamerXBL 03:27, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah thats what it looks like. It also looks like it is attatched to a medical brace, so this could be a creatable weapon.--Hegs94 07:00, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

I agree it does look like fun and there would be no reason to doubt it being in the game, but how practical would it be to use over lets say any of the power fists or variants of the fists they could crush it easy. Also there should be a decent number of new weapons that's one of the fun parts of the dlc

It talks about the ghost people dragging people off into the casino so I'm think this would be how they drag them pff. punch and drag.


Do you guys think this will be released for the pc and the xbox too? i mean, the fallout 3 addons released for ps and xobox at the same time cos its both microsoft...i dont understand why its xbox only this time

Um... grammar and sign your posts please. Ouroboros Omega 04:01, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ps3 is a product of Sony and Xbox is a product of Microsoft. They are two rival companies not the same. Like in F3 the DLC will be an Xbox exclusive for a few months. This isn't Bethesda playing favorites, it's Microsoft forking over extra cash to get it as an Xbox exclusive. TractionEra 23.24, 08 December, 2010

I do not think Sony have the money to because they are paying Pandemic studios a lot of money to get Killzone 3 in 3d, and they are not wasting money on a small dlc.

^To You^ Or it could be that Xbox owners pay for online so that could be where the extra money is coming from. And sign your post, I'm not a member here but at least I'm conscious that its a wiki, Retard. 09:30, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Endgame & DLC

Anyone got any ideas as to what clasifies as an endgame, the article says that the dlc isnt available to those at the endgame but what classifies this? I mean does House Always Wins I count as endgame or could it be something like House Always Wins IV? Cant stand the idea of having to start over again just to play the dlc (Im about 150+ hrs in and have recieved but not started the endgame quests so Im on the first part of all end quests) Ouroboros Omega 04:06, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

by endgame they mean someone who has beaten the game, or gone past the point of no return. Toolazytomakeaaccount 06:33, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

I wish they would learn from Fallout 3 and let you continue at the end but at this point I dont see how they could continue it even if they wanted to which I understand that they dont. If they did then so many things would be drastically changed and most likely they would have to introduce more followers because most likely you didn't get every follower to stay with you or even survive for that matter and the land would be controlled by a faction and towns would either be fine or suffering/wiped out. (Very few nice endgame outcomes in my point of view).

Just remember that before Broken Steel, at the end of FO3, you fucking DIED. I'm sure that Bethesda will come up with something to get past what, retirement(For the NCR, House, or Yes Man. I think if you helped the Legion, thats probably it, unless you wind up the Couriers grandkid or something in a rebuilt Mojave Wasteland)

As for getting there, I was about to talk to General Oliver(fight at the Dam) before I went to the Sierra Madre. Unless you already finished, or are currently at the Dam, you should be able to go.

Which is the point of no return?at the start of THAW 7 or even at the end of 8(when you get the choice menu, between going to H.D. or staying to do some things)? i think doing part 8 can be considered point of no return because you report to and you may get that pop-up choice menu all the time from then on.Not a good point to continue playing the game.So,which save should i load in order to do the DLCs?Most probably the one before i start THAW 7,because this way i can also fully alter the end of the game whenever i want,right? Otherwise,i could load just before part 8 when everything is settled but the battle of H.D. has not theoretically started.(LOL i know i answer my own questions ,that's because the purpose is to help others out)--Frizstyler 00:24, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

New Weapons

Anyone else notice the weapon in the hands of the person in the screen shot? It's an unarmed weapon that looks as if it is a bear trap. Could be fun to use ;) -- 01:34, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP!!!! Gheart 00:45, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

35 seconds into the video on Machinima, you can see what looks like a new Assult Rifle, Can someone get a screen shot? Lenov 15:12, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Air Conditioning.

Why would the air conditioning release lethal toxins? The cloud sounds cool, but the reason why it's there isn't doing it for me.-- 15:12, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

  • Perhaps we figure that out when we complete the DLC.

They probably just needed a gimmick or explanation for why things have gone bad. Personally they mention that the security is super high teck I would have went with a rouge AI. But the hazmat thing is cool to.

maybe these bad guys you'll be fighting sabotaged it and put poison in the system so they could have total reign? Toolazytomakeaaccount 18:40, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

That sounds pretty good Toolazytomakeaaccount. I can see that happening. 20:32, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Could be but I dont know if they are bad guys or not doesnt it just say that they are the survivers and they capture you or something also you would think that there would be a more efficent way to take controll instead of poisoning the enviroment. Plus it has been like 300 years ( dont know exact number of years)but some kind of radiated mold could have grown and made its way into the AC.

radioactive mold isnt that difficult to imagine, its anyones guess atm Toolazytomakeaaccount 23:25, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Freon, the gas used in real-world air conditioning while not terribly toxic, can cause skin, eye, throat, and lung irritation and in high enough concentrations can cause you to asphyxiate (die from lack of oxygen). Freon is used because it is a relatively safe gas. In the Fallout universe, they seem to have pretty relaxed environmental and safety regulations, wouldn't surprise me if they used a seriously toxic gas because it was cheaper / easier. --Kramer316 17:03, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Losing all your stuff?

Dose anyone feel like they are going to take away all the stuff you worked so hard for at the start of the DLC like in the Pitt, Operation Anchorage? That would suck so bad I mean it just stupid in my opinion, but then again so is having an absolute ending.--1stRecon 17:43, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well, in the Pitt you got it all back pretty quickly. Anchorage, doesn't need an explanation. At the moment, I couldn't say. We don't know if you're working with people to break into the casino, or if you are already inside it, and trying to access a safe or whatever. It could be a fun challenge. And if they add a bunch of new weapons it would be a great chance to try them out.-- 19:04, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Most likely you will have your stuff confiscated temporarily like when you enter a casino but in the end if taken you will get it back I have no doubts about it. Dont you see a pattern they want you to use the new stuff available and not just rely on your stuff that your great with and breeze through the dlc.All in all I dont see that big of a problem and dont mind as long as I get my stuff back without some of the many glitch's (That New Vegas is known for) that deletes your stuff(Glitch's that delete items not in particular).

Yup, lose all your stuff at the start of the quest. Propably get it all near its ends, or if you decide to turn upon your kidnapper you'll find it nearby to them.

Well I have 100 repair skill and Jury Rigging perk,so that might be handy in getting rid of the explosive collar?

You loose all your stuff throught the entire DLC only when you enter the wasteland again you get your items back.

Losing all your stuff is my favorite part of all the Fallout DLC's. I think it's really fun to "start anew".--Bigwill817 02:34, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

I completely agree with Bigwill817. I like how every DLC is hard in the beginning because you don't have all your OP weapons from Wasteland with you. I especially enjoyed the difficulty and lack of useful items in Dead Money. I was almost all the time low on cash, ammo and healing items. First time in Fallout I actually had to buy some ammo and stims. It kind of disappointed me when I found the snowglobe that instantly gave me 2000 chips.

I hated losing all my stuff, main fighting ghost people.Honestly a lot of people agree this is one of the worst DLCs and this is one of the resons. Most of the time i spent on this DLC with at least max 100 health. And there's barley any stimpacks anywhere.This DLC sucks so bad i quit it 75% threw it. Its just too big of a challenge with hologram securitey, and the radio frenqueics and the ghost people every where and hard to kill and also one of the worst part about this DLC is how all the collars are connected so for people that always play on hard core, GOOD LUCK!!!

Level Cap Raised

I heard that they might be raising the level cap to 35 hopefully if they do they will continue to do that in the dlc following Dead Money.

im pretty sure this has been confirmed

Well? How about it people? Does this DLC come with the extra 5 levels like rumors suggested or not? It's one of the main reasons i wanna get it. Not exactly super excited about the quests,since they have PLENTY of quests in the standard New vegas that i haven't even got around to touching yet. Can anyone please let me know if the level cap is increased after all? Lionheart777 14:59, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah,if someone could also let me know what the new perks are I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance! Lionheart777 15:10, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

There is only 2 or 3 new Perks, which are in the first 30 levels. Nothing new for levels 30-35. The level cap is raised, but Dead Money got me from 30 to 35 quick. I would have been at least level 37 by the time I left should the level have been raised more. Also, there is only one singular quest line, and it has a good story. This is also very difficult DLC, and most the whining about it is mainly from people incapable of playing on that difficulty.

NCR Presence?

Did anyone else notice the name of the medal awarded to Private Jeremy Watkins? It was called the Star of Sierra Madre? Does this means that this area has been occupied (or at least previously discovered by the NCR? Perhaps a historic battle took place here? --James Rednok 22:32, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

It may refer to Sierra Madre, California, and not to this Sierra Madre. There are a lot of places with this name. Ausir(talk) 11:36, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
Good Point.

--James Rednok 15:27, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds familiar ...

Heavily polluted town, rogue BoS paladin calling the shots? This time you'll probably have to work hard in order to gather all the chips from the spore-carrier infested casino... I saw a Bark Scorpion the other day :)

GBRM2KX Memory Chip

Veronica mentions that Father Ellijah tasked her with collecting memory chips from Robobrains; and as we already know that Father Ellijah is in this; does anyone else think that the GBRM2KX memory chip found at Ranger Station Delta is related to this? It would explain why it's marked as a quest item, and would tie in nicely with Father Ellijah's appearance. Thoughts?

Don't use links in talk pages.
And no, the memory chip was supposed to be used in Return to Sender. Nitty Tok. 16:13, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

.32 Pistol?

In the Dead Money trailer, the revolver in the PC's hands looks like a .32 pistol or something similar. But there isn't any .32 ammo in New Vegas. Any speculations? 00:07, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ammo will either be included in the DLC, or it might take a smaller ammo type like .22 (seeing as the hunting rifle uses .308, its likely they just changed the ammo type to something similar).

Illegal PC Port - possible?

I know it probably isn't even possible, but what if there will be a modder who succeeds in decoding data from Xbox 360 DLC and converting it into Fallout: New Vegas mod format. I wonder what Beth and Obsidian will think of that... 14:52, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Or you could just wait an extra month or so till its officially released for the other platforms....

does anone know if this will be sold in a disk version? -Falloutguru12-

Probably once a good few of the DLC's are released they'll stick a couple on a disc like they did with F03-seeing as its Beth that handles the marketing.

Wait an Extra Month... or so... ???... I think if it will EVEN come out for PS3 and PC, it will happen about YEAR after the Xbox release. In GOTY edition, or something. 22:28, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

It's totally possible. I've personally messed around with the 360 ESM and BSA files but only had limited progress. I converted all of the .xma audio files to .mp3 and .wav as indicated when loading the ESM with the GECK. For some reason, the sound data in GECK makes no mention of XMA and only .mp3 and .wav. It also doesn't link to any .ogg files which is strange considering the main game uses this format along with .wav (and AFAIK not .mp3). I can confirm that the proper audio is playing while the PC is being gassed in the BoS bunker, but after this scene the game is stuck in a loop with a noise sounding like a door loading. The scripts appear to be perfectly fine too so my only guess is it is the .ddx texture format which differs from the .dds which the game uses. There is almost nothing documented on the internet about .ddx either other than the byte order is big endian. I supposed you could replace the textures with existing ones and still play the game (although it would look really funny) but I also read the .nif files are incompatible between pc/console. Not sure if that's true. Anyways, you can currently load the files with no modification and get the radio signal, pip boy message, map marker, +5 level cap, and extra perks associated with the dlc. The BoS bunker will be unlocked but there are floating explanation points indicating missing textures. If this truly takes a year to come out, somebody will mod it to be compatible with PC and even modded PS3s but I'm giving up on it for now. Oh that and it's not legal ;)

Grr this sucks ass i have been messing all night with the geck and some RS download of the DLC but i cannot make the textures etc work :(, the problem are the .ddx files yes... oh well at least i get the 35-level cap :D

Actually, I bought DLC for fallout 3(probably works for new vegas)off of xbox live and then downloaded it to my pc using, apparently in a format usable by the pc version. you could try that. NOTE: it is saved in the games for windows live folder. I don't have new vegas for the pc yet but you should try that. 18:38, December 29, 2010 (UTC) sorry, wasn't signed in. ^JerichoRCDF 18:40, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

New throwing spear weapon?

After looking through the trailer I came across this little number. Could this be some kind of new shocking throwing spear of some sorts? Mr. Snufflez 12:01, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh snap! Good catch. Definitely looks like some kind of electric lance... 00:06, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

ha ha nope just a really sharp knife attached to a stick sorry to be the bear of bad news

Keep Followers?

Does anyone think you may be able to keep the followers you find permanently? --FO3DLC 15:23, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Doubt it. You'll probably part ways at the end of the quest-there's cinematics, so they'll probably tell you what happens to them all afterwards. You'll either part ways on positive terms, they may betray you for the treasure (or you them), might die on the way to it, or (unlikely) be killed off by the big baddie. Wyrmalla 18:38, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

With high enough Speech, you can convince them all to live. Other wise, you will have to kill two of them, and let Father Elijah deal with the third. After that, once you leave, one of them heads to California(But he has the most endings I've seen in one character, thats just one way it ends), one stays, and the other one says he goes to Vegas, but you can't find him after that.

Ghost People = Vampires?

It says that the ghost people need to have their heads cut off to die. Well.....I guess I'll bust out old "Knock-Knock" for his one! Maybe Vance and The Family will make an appearance? JK --TacticalGamerXBL 17:22, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Probably just mutated by the radiation to become more resistant to damage, or they just don't feel it. Possibly like ghouls-they make gribbly screaming sound-, or say the creatures from "The Time Machine". Wyrmalla 18:37, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Not vampires because Vance didn't his head cut off, and you need to remove a limb, so 1 leg, 1 arm, any 1 limb.--The OutCasts 02:02, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

your a dumb ass why the hell could they be there if the ghost people are the original habitats of sierra madre

They have mutated to there suits likes its there skin and theres a number of ways to kill them disintegration(feel free to spell that right) choping them up, blowing them up, or eating them so I wouldn't say vampires PER SAY

i wonder wat ghost people taste like i guess youll have to have the ghastly scavengr perk


I have found a snowglobe.

It was in Salida del Sol Courtyard or north

Achievements gone...

Okay, so I just loaded up Dead Money, and for some reason my 360 is now showing that there are only 4 achievements for the WHOLE of New Vegas. Any ideas? 17:16, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

never mind, fixed it now. Anyone else with this issue, recover your GamerTag... 17:42, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Random health loss

I have been playing the DLC for a good 4 hours and made my way into the casino. I relised that the toxic gas was still pressent but when I was out of the gas I carryed on looseing health. This then carryed on even with the use of 20 stimpacks. Is this suposed to happen? any one had the same problem?

Well there is an achivement for locking Elijah in the vault this may let you escape? but i die when i spawn from this 'Glitch' so i'm not shure

You don't die... All you do is leave the Sierra Madre. You will return to the Fountain. Here, you can continue to explore the Villa, return to the Sierra Madre, or return to the Mojave. If you return to the Mojave, you cannot Return to the Sierra Madre on that account.

If your playing on hardcore mode then you lose health unless you have a special suit. I have no idea where you get the suit but I know there is one because they talk about it at the beginning.

spoilers ending spoilers

Ending SPOILERS SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

The ending is terrible SPOILERS SPOILERS!!!!!!!1 You die!! is there any alternate ending pleas etell me cause i wanna play new vegas agen sos for any spoilers

There are 2 others. You can kill Elijah or trap him in the vault. --Drldrl 23:27, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Cheers mate

Possiblle Future DLC (Spoilers)

I noticed in the end the followers mentioning a second Courier battle against myself (Player Character) perhaps a future DLC, or something. It seemed to hint at the next DLC really deeplyu, any thoughts? BTW AWESOME DLC -- 20:58, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

So what your saying is that the person who wrote the graf at the canyon wreckage, and the one who refused the original Platinum Chip job because you had your name down for it also, is in fact your rival, and will likally appear in a future DLC probably involving the courier finding out about their past etc? -Wyrmalla

I beleive it said he was fighting with the courier under a flag of the old world at the Great Divide. --Drldrl 23:28, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Also theres a new challenge thats about hearing were your adventures might lead you, and you get 3/5 when the credits are going. --Drldrl 00:44, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Definately a future DLC involving Ulysses then. Canyon Wreckage has a piece of graf which reads "the divide", and the "flag of the old world", would be either the us flag on his back or the flagpole that he now carries as a weapon. -Wyrmalla

I figured out some stuff about future DLC. 1. "the divide" graf in the Canyon Wreckage cant be a reference to a Grand Canyon DLC, If the canyon wreckage is supposed to be the entrance to the DLC, Because its heading west and the Grand Canyon is east of there. 2. I believe that the Mojave Outpost locked gate leads to The Hub. I-15 goes through the gate towards California, and the Hub is at the intersection of i-15 and i-40. Also it was in the first two Fallouts, and its referenced even in a loading slide in New Vegas. 3. The Canyon Wreckage could lead to the King River in California. Where it ends is close to directly east of Vegas. --Cooper5023 06:24, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Game freeze

Just curious if this happend to anyone else. I go into to bunker, past the door, and towards the radio. The gas hits and I start to pass out. Then the freeze hits, making it impossible to play the dlc. I un- and re- installed the download, no effect. Any suggestions? 21:14, December 21, 2010 (UTC)OgBucky21:14, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

I had a similar problem. It seems to be a save related problem, possible related to a companion glitch. If I load any of my recent save games, I can't play Dead Money. If I load an older save game, back before ED-E glitched and went missing, I can play it just fine. Hope that helps.

Reload a save before going in the bunker. Tell any companions to leave. Maybe store some unique weapons/armor/other shit in the equipment chest upstairs from the bunker(first floor), then continue to the radio. If that doesn't work, you may as well just be fucked, and have to live with nothing but the level cap raise.


OMFG I die, and no way to stop it becuase i saved before going into the vault and have no saves before it, damn nice obsibion -.- Kososumi 23:01, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

It should save before accessing the terminal DO NOT read the second message, it locks the door. You would have found this out if you read the first message. -.- --Drldrl 23:30, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Is there anyway tp avoid this? I Haven't entered the Vault yet but I can't find a way back, energy feilds blocking everything.

you saved the game you skittish little fucker, not obsibion.--The OutCasts 02:07, December 24, 2010 (UTC)


When im trying to do the achievement for locking the evil guy in the vault, i can lock him in and go all the way around but when i get to the door before the elevator there an invisable wall?!?!?!!? Is there anyone else with this or is it just me? remember evil dude has to still be alive cant kill him.

you have to sneak past him undetected before he reaches the bottom floor. When he doesnt see you, he will assume that you bolted to the elevator. That is when you sneak behind him and lock the door via terminal.

I had a problem like that with the maintennance door it opened but I couldn't walk through a reload of a save and a walk all the way back to that door before triggering the vault seemed to fix it.

Problem with a quest or a bug or something

I've been playing for about 4 hours and when I try to do the Dean quest in the theater I can't get into vera's room even when the game is clearly telling me to. Where is the Key? or did I do something wrong?

Key is on Dean's desk in his room. --Drldrl 23:51, December 21, 2010 (UTC)


Great Divide


In the two of the endings, it's described that the courier is drawn into a battle with another courier. One who carriers the message of the old world. Cristine tells the courier about a courier who saved her from events that happened in the Big Empty between her and father elijah. The courier was wearing an "Old World Flag". I assume it isn't the enclave flag since see would have said so given she is a scribe for the brotherhood. The other(player character) bearing the message of a new world.--or something like that. The old world courier is looking for player character. In cristine's ending, she says that she didnt here about the courier until she heard about the great divide. Old world vs New world, the Couriers fought under ancient ruins at the edge of the world.-Not to mention that everytime the old courier was mentioned, you would recieve a challenge 1/5 complete for "Things to come in the Future." If you help merge the two personalities of god and dog, the new being states that he thought nothing of the courier till he heard about the great divide and was drawn there..Kwayzar 01:15, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah its all hinting towards the next DLC probably. The "great divide" is hinted to at the Canyon wreckage, and the other courier would be the cut character Ulysses-with the flag of the old world (he carries a flagpole and a us flag sewn onto his jacket. -Wyrmalla

lol i was about to add the Ulysses to this question but you already did,,,by the way the next dlc in my guess is set in new canaan, and the burnt man will return along with ulysess,,,,it is stupid how they hinted this in the geck files :D Tommygunner32 12:53, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say that Joshua will be appearing in the New Canaan one as he was linked to that location in Van Buren; ie in New Vegas it'll be that he was originally from there or the like, as at least some of the Mormons there knew him before he became the Legate in Van Buren. Ulysses will probably be in a later DLC set in the Grand Canyon.-Wyrmalla

I doubt that the Burned Man/Joshua Graham would be in New Canaan, or any where Van Buren suggest, since it isn't canon. Bethesda/Obsidian would probably place him where ever they want. I would, however, be looking forward to Ulysses, sort of a Legionary version of Boone I would guess.GhostOf11 10:02, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Caesar sais that the Burned Man was kicked into the Grand Canyon, right? So Joshua will most likely be in the Grand Canyon DLC, and the other courier would be in New Canaan.

One of the tips in the loading screens says that the Sierra Madre, the Burned Man, the Big Empty, and the Great Divide are all myths. Since we know that the Sierra Madre isn't, and Father Elijah comments on how he's been the the Big Empty, I bet that they'll all be in DLCs. LucidDreams 04:03, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Vera's outfit

someone should add this to the page as its not on there yet.Its the dress you find in vera's suite on the skelington

There is a second one in her safe on the way to the Vault. Also, on men, it looks like a Tuxedo, with a red bow-tie. Its nicer then normal tuxedos or White Glove Society Attire.

It is now you should erase this topic now


At the end Dog talks about a battle between the couriers, is this hover dam or perhaps another future DLC.

Dog doesn't say anything(God might, I let Dog go, I haven't finished it with God leaving) but Christine(the Mute) refers to a second Courier, which is though to be, but not confirmed but Obsidian or Bethesda, the cut character Ulysses, a Legionary courier who was going to be a companion, but got cut. And I think it was them fighting side by side(Not completely sure) at the "Great Divide" which is the Grand Canyon, where the Burned Man(ex-Legate Joshua Graham) is rumored to live. It may be upcoming DLC, since the Canyon Wreckage has 2 referrals to "Courier Six" and the Great Divide. The G.E.C.K also hints at The Burned Man and Ulysses, but that my just be about talking about the Burned Man and content they didn't delete about Ulysses.

Dog/God doesnt say anything but the 3rd voice of that individual (well the merged two voices) does have an ending that talks about the battle in the divide between the two couriers, and wishes this courier be saved.Kaldhore 16:03, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Veronica Additional Dialogue

I finished Dead Money. No dialogue from Veronica. However, Before Starting i only pried into veronicas past a little bit. Didnt complete here companion side quest. Has anyone unlocked additional dialogue with her? If so, what were the conditions?Kwayzar 04:20, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Talk to her about her relationship with Elijah, and after that you should have an option saying you found him. TrailerParkApe MkII 04:21, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Theres a holotape in Elijah's lab in the BoS bunker you first go into thats meant for her only. --Drldrl 05:30, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Just to clarify on this (because I had problems) When you talk to veronica, ask about her then about Elijah (making sure you have the holotape on you). Then close the dialogue and stop talking. Now RE-open the dialoge and you will have the option to tell her that youve seen him (and then more dialogue and a choice to make).Kaldhore 16:06, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Backstage Key Help?

When you are in the theater and Dean tells you to hurry up to the door on the left (after I get the backstage key from Vera's stand) the door remains locked. So... What do I do?

there's a door on the right of the room that will take you backstage

Go right, if you have your speech skills (or at least have a 6 Intellgents, maybe 7, I forget) you can tell him that he made a mistake and corrects himself. -- 07:15, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Quest Bug

I have been playing the add-on all day now and I’m still stuck on the first quest where you find the three others. I have found them and they are all at the fountain, but Father Elijah keeps using the same dialogue about finding the three others and bringing them back to the fountain and the second quest isn't starting. what should I do?

I also think that it might be a bug with Dog/God. I cant seem to recruit him as a companion if I tell him to go to the fountain after the end of the “Collar 8” quest. Is there anything I can do to fix it? I have tried re-downloading the add-on, but it didn’t help.

Same problem here as far as Elijah goes. I'm not sure if he's supposed to, but once I have everyone at the fountain, Dog starts trying to reemerge (I was using God). He keeps yelling at me about how hungry he is.--Grassrunnerdaugher 17:07, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Getting Dog to Stay

Hey there guys,

So I've gotten the Dead Money DLC and I've come along a quest where I have to get Dog to wait in this one little section with pipes running all around the place and about 5 switches on the wall. Any idea on how to get him to wait there? I've told him to wait there by command but he keeps following me.

You can talk to Dog and either get him food to keep him there...of if you turn left out of that cage there is a terminal on the wall that will allow you to "lock" him in there.

Also, turning him to "God" and passing either a few Intelligence or Speech checks gets him to stay.

SPOILERS Dog in the kitchen.

It keeps telling me that all the doors leading out nof the place won't open till I've repaired the gas pipes, and I've repaired two, can't find any others, and it still won't let me out. Any ideas?

Ok I'm an idiot I found it in the hallway, although I maintain that it's a stupid idea telling people to look for a dull grey pipe in the room full of dull grey things....

New Safehouse? Holorifle mods

After completing the DLC i cant help but notice the Abandoned brotherhood bunker makes a perfect safehouse if it is indeed safe. There is a bed, workbench, reloading bench, and a dropbox you can pick up sierra madre chips in to use in the Sierra madre vending machine also located in the bunker. I'll test and see if it's safe to store items there but can anyone confirm?

Alright I edited the Adv. Calibration(Decreases Spread) but theres a rumor that there is a third mod for the holorifle that increases its durability (Adv. Parts). Has anyone found to confirm? On a side note, i found the acoustic guitar in villa area not sure if it should be listedKwayzar 15:39, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

The Adv. Parts mod is there...I have it on my holorifle right now...and you can find an acoustic guitar in the regular game. --Drldrl 08:25, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

DLC Letdown

Anyone else think this DLC is a Letdown? Lenov 18:30, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

No, well not for me, I like games that are complicated, and the "Heist of the Centuries" was one of the most strategically confusing quest or mission I have ever played.--The OutCasts 02:16, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

I really enjoyed it. The heist was very cinema, the added equipment and new base are a great addition to the game, and the added clues to the new expansion make me look forward to the next one. 05:49, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think that the only way it would have been better was if it continued the game(Like Broken Steel) and let you keep a companion. It was fun, and has the "fucking creepy"(Especially if you figure out the whole story of the Sierra Madre) factor I couldn't find any where in the Mojave. The story is also the best of any DLC I have ever played.

Yea it was a let down for me seeing how it didn't feel like the "Heist of the Centuries" at all. Possibly if you weren't being held against your will then maybe I could have enjoyed it. The only thing I liked was scavenging for items to stay alive which most people I assume do not like that. One thing that I did like was the hints to the things to come. Over all I probably wouldn't give it that high of a score seeing how there wasn't that much of a thrill.

Was a let down after playing other DLCs and getting the reward after it, tho i guess inf. repair kits and .308 and .357 rounds does make up for it, oh and stimpacks and doctor bags :D ... forgot siggy :o --6 Xero 9 06:44, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Deleted pages

What's up with all the half-assed pages that were taken down? they might have been half assed but they still actually helped people more then nothing, whose the idiot that took them down?

They probably were not on topic like for an example someone deleted the topic on Van Graff bugged armor seeing how it was really stupid to put a topic like that on this page even if it wasn't removed from him when he entered the dead money area.

Dean domino's ending

doesn't Dean Domino die? how do you end up getting the ending with him going out to rob New Vegas's casinos?

Well, you could kill him in the Theatre. That may make it quite difficult for him to make it to Vegas. On a side note, I'm puzzled on if he goes to Vegas, where in the hell is he?-GhostOf11 10:40, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

It's possible to not kill him. As for him not showing up, that's just laziness on the part of the game designers, and their desire to give you nothing but items and a new safehouse after you finish the DLC. It's a shame, I liked Dean, and would've been really happy if I could keep at least one companion, even if it meant I wouldn't get to use Boone anymore. 02:50, February 4, 2011 (UTC)


This is the worst DLC for me. Even Operation Anchorage was better. Only good thing is that you meet Elijah. Rest is BS

I agree completely. I wasted 2 days and $10 on the most frustrating thing I have ever done. You couldn't figure almost anything out, the fucking holograms pissed me off over and over, and what do we get out of it? Fucking gold that you can't even sell for full price anywhere! If Obsidian even thinks of releasing a DLC even half this crappy, I will get rid of New Vegas and be done with this shit. Bethesda is so much better.--With care and happiness, Supermutantslayer450' YOU. LOSE. 08:11, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

I compleatly agree with your statement but you have to remember that fallout 3 started with really shitty dlcs then SLOWLY got better would have been much better if the casino was reactivated and the poisen cloud wasnt there and you could go back to the location LIKE ALL THE OTHER DLCS!!!!

¬¬ Eugh, people these days just look for every dumb reason to hate something. It doesn't matter if its not your thing, don't moan about it on a wiki pages talk page. -Wyrmalla

I agree its one thing to dislike the DLC, but you dont have to complain about it all over the talk page. -J-man

Maybe its because this DLC required a little intelligence and strategy to get through? Holograms are easy to get around, all you need is Sneak, Repair, OR Science, not all three. You can get around them, disable them, or reprogram them. Are you guys really whining about it being too hard? And the reason you can't go back is to keep in line with the story. You were dragged there by Dog, and had to wander back to the Mojave.. Also, don't even start bitching about the POISON cloud when you can't even spell poison.

I agree I do think that it didn't live up to be a great casino heist that it was supposed to be. Instead it feels like your being forced around and not be able to free roam as freely as you want until closer till the end of the dlc other then gold bars and the holorifle I personaly didn't find anything special about the items or the new perks that you get. I think it could be better but you shouldn't be ranting on a wiki talk page.

This is possibly one of my favorite DlC's. You get some good loot, and have a very fun Horror/Puzzle experience. There were parts where I was frustrated to, but I liked a little challenge. Also if you really care about the gold bars that much go to one of the hologram vendors. They have 2,500 pre-war money. Just trade with them, and your set.--Bigwill817 02:38, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

I too very much enjoyed this DLC, I enjoy anything that adds to the Fallout experience. But this DLC was challenging and fun. Gonna go do my second run now Kaldhore 14:42, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

My favourite DLC for sure. Just finished my second playthrough and enjoyed it just as much the second time. Very impressive character development considering it was just a DLC. I was especially drawn into Christine's story. Though I wish I could tell Veronica that I met her! TedShred 18:14, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

I too found this DLC far too tedious and boring to enjoy. It felt like work, and work that I do not enjoy. Some of the ideas were novel, but after leading one NPC to their spot in the Villa and performing an additional task just to get them to stay put, I had had enough. Then it became clear that I had to do the same with all three NPCs. Even after navigating the senseless and infuriating Villa, I entered the casino only to have to deal with more tedium: holograms and the like. I'll concede that there was more thought put into this DLC than most quests in FNV, but Obsidian needs to keep things in moderation or they won't be enjoyed by anyone but the game designer. In the end, I agree with the heading of this section - "rubbish." 06:20, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Dead Money is my second favorite expansion (after Point Lookout). The situation felt very contrived and artificial, but if you can get past that, the challenges and the story are both fun and interesting. I'm the kind of player who approaches challenges with caution, so I found the holographic security easy to evade or disable. "Run and gun" players will probably not find this expansion to their liking, so be warned. It's more about story and finesse. Bit of a surprise at the start because I'd only put points into Guns, but letting Dog deal with enemies for me, I soon had a police pistol and plenty of ammo. Ammo, food & water, and stimpaks were in ample supply, and I never ran short. I played on Hard / Hardcore at level 30 (used the console to limit my level to 30), so players who use other settings may have a different experience. Overall a good time with lots of atmosphere, and I'll be sure to play this one on my next play-through of the game. --KineticKat 21:52, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, this is total BS. One of most frustrating, irritating DLC's. I just thought this was so stupid; hell, i don't even want to finish it.

There you go, fixed it for you (like you asked)!-- 02:14, September 2, 2011 (UTC)
Oops, forgot to sign in!--The.true.samiam 02:15, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

victor in sierra madre

when i look at the world map in sierra madre near the fountain there is a companion marker for victor does anyone else notice this

Me too.Vault 815 02:02, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

It happened to me to in the Mojave as well its just a glitch I dont think there is anyway you could get him to follow you even though at one point when talking to him the companion wheel showed up but thats not a discussion for this page so ill get back on track and just say that you might find more information in the glitches page.

its an easter egg with wild wasteland

complimentary voucher

after you finish the DLC and get back to the bunker, you get one of these with each batch of chips in the drop box. any idea on what they're used for?-- 21:23, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Open up the vending machine in the bunker and you can use the voucher to redeem another 1000 chips.

This works ONLY if you won 7,500 chips at the casino in the Sierra Madre.DarthOrc 05:46, September 10, 2011 (UTC)DarthOrc

Vending machines

Hey does any one mind putting up were all the Holodisk's are for the vending machines. I am starting to get frustrated because I know there are more then I have but I cant seem to find them.

You can find those in the Dead Money page you should use the talk page to find items

The following location gives most of the written down locations for the holodisks to upgrade the Vending Machines. Sierra_Madre_vending_machine

--Bartlmay 17:46, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

father ejiahs robes

You can find father egiahs robes in 2 places: can kill him and loot him for it 2. when you complete dead money you can find it in the room to your right inside a footlocker

Can't leave Sierra Madre (360)

At the end of the DLC, I am unable to leave the Sierra Madre. The dialogue pops up at the south gate, I select to leave, briefly see a loading screen, and then it goes black. My console becomes unresponsive. The only unusual things to note:

I am carrying 1000000+ caps (Primm bug)

I am carrying 104 Doctor's Bags and 144 Stimpacks on account of winning the max at the blackjack table. My WG is 440/290.

Thanks all! 20:57, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Hey same thing happens to me although i am carrying nothing unusual. i have tried everything from re-downloading switching hard drives and going back to a later save. all i can do is wonder around sierra madre but wont let me leave any tips?????

Still not completely sure if this works but it did for me. so what you do is when you select travel to Mojave then push the guide button and wait until it completely loads

Same thing happened to me... Jeebus is this game extremely buggy. I figure I'll just console command to a place in the mojave or something, which means I don't get the ending...

no items

when i returned to the bos bunker i diddent have my old stuff back all i had was what i got in dead money

nevermind. when i got to the ladder everything just popped up and i got overcucumberd because of gold

caravan cards

Can anyone put a guide to finding them?


Isn't the returning to the fountain after the heist reminiscent of Ocean's 11


Can we get some solid info on how much you can explore this place? I'm reading that there are certain places with radio signals that you can't get near without dying. Do these signals ever go? I also read that you don't have to leave straight away after raiding the vault and dealing with Elijah. How much of the map is open at this point? Are different areas cut off, and if so, how many?-- 14:35, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

It's interesting, can someone say something about it? 10:12, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

I have a feeling that Bethesda/Obsidian put some radios down just to keep you on track. But once you kill Elijah and leave the Sierra Madre, you can go anywhere, if Ghosts and the Cloud don't kill you.-GhostOf11 10:15, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Any info on this at all? I'd like to know before buying it next week.-- 16:07, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

It's not as open as you want it to be. Its really just a central location, with the casino to the north and a long path/road running east and west with buildings restricting your movement to an almost linear fashion. Sure there are alleyways and rooftops, but it is basically as free as the Pitt from FO3, after raiding the casino there's really nothing else to do unless you have a fetish for killing ghost people or didnt find all the weapon mods beforehand.

Once you have done the finally part of this you end up back at the fountain WITHOUT a COLLAR. This means you can explore anywhere that previously had too many shielded speakers. You can even go back into the Casino. But once you leave and go back to the BoS bunker you cannot go back to the DLC.Kaldhore 15:58, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Kaldhore. That's what I've been waiting for.-- 08:25, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

This needs verify but I have seen that if you win at least 7500 chips at the casino you will be able to return to Sierra Madre and redeem the Complimentary vouchers.--Bartlmay 17:53, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

No, you don't get to return. You cash in the vouchers you get at the drop box in the BOS abandoned bunker at the holovender in the bunker, which is the only place you can spend them. What you can buy depends on which recipe holotapes you found while in Dead Money.DarthOrc 05:51, September 10, 2011 (UTC)DarthOrc

Holograms that stay active after the Heist

There's also at least one more hologram in the clinic, and one in the residential district.

You Know

You can go to and email them. make those emails as strong lettered as you can make em causedead money is a F**ing humongous LETDOWN not because i cant figure how to do anything but because of that glitch i spoke about above. - Cormac

money wasted

rip off. no refunds ive sent countless emails to bethesda on how they need to make a patch before an angry mob comes to obsidian and bethesda studios.

It clearly states there are no refunds for ANY downloadable content for any game on Xbox Live. You wont get your money back because you already agreed to their terms. (assuming you're on Xbox 360 but i imagine it's the same for all systems --Ze5ro1 17:03, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Duck and cover and Wasteland survival guide

Where is goddamn things? anyway, i hate additional skill f*cking books. no more skill books in the DLC

The hell are all you kids ranting on the talk page for. Get over it kid! Just because you do not like aspects of the DLC does not mean every one else hates them too! So stop raging on the talk page and get over yourself! The entire universe of Fallout does not orbit around your punk ass!

First - sign your posts, whelp. Second, the talk page is an excellent place to read about people's experiences with the DLC since opinions have no place on the main pages. It's very useful and entirely welcome. 06:23, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

There is no WSG in Dead Money. I think D&C was supposed to be in Dean's apartment in the residential district but I couldn't find it there (or anywhere else). TedShred 18:05, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Any Word on Other Platform Release Dates?

Was wondering if there has been any word yet on the PC and PS3 release dates for Dead Money.The14th 18:52, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Well, looking at the XBL and GFWL release date of Operation: Anchorage and comparing it with the PS3 release date of Broken Steel, I'd say we're looking at somewhere around the 18th of July. I hope it's not that long though, for the sake of people on other platforms and for the sake of my own sanity in reading whiny blog comments. --Flower of Pock-Lips 19:06, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Leveling up before starting

Has anyone leveled up to 35 before going to the Abandoned BoS bunker? It looks like it would take a while, but getting the skill points and perks beforehand could really help with the Ghost People.-- 13:32, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

What difference would it make? I went in ~23 or so and came out at 27. Ghost People are really easy to kill. Especially once you find out how great cosmic knives are. A single clean cosmic knife (though, oddly, not a superheated one) can one-shot a Ghost Person in VATS if you use the special attack. 02:57, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

And how would one use the special attack without 50+ melee? That is how it would help. Getting the skill points for skills that didn't get much attention previously. My unarmed and melee are very low, and from what I'm reading, ammo is scarce in Dead Money, so clearly adding points to those skills would help. Along with stealth.-- 20:56, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ammo for the Police Pistol was not scarce when I played Dead Money. With conservative use, I finished with over 100 rounds. Of course, I was playing a character that was 90+ at both melee and unarmed. Most my attacks were close hand, not with guns... So, hmm, yeah maybe the ammo could be considered "scarce" if one had very low melee and/or unarmed. But also .308 rounds and microfusion cells, which I never used, were not hard to acquire. And I didn't have the scrounger perk. --Sp3lly 18:51, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Second time I played I used a character with low, low melee and unarmed (like 15 each). He had very high gun, energy, sneak, repair skills. I basically used Dog to help clear out all parts of the Villa before leading anybody to the place they have to stay at for the grand opening. But after that, I noticed on regular difficulty it wasn't that hard to kill the ghost people, even with bare trap fist, although I usually weakened them first with the police pistol. So even this route (using the pistol much more) I haven't found ammo for it to be scarce; I dropped below 100 rounds only once before entering the casino, but then I found more in there. --Sp3lly 20:10, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

I started at level twelve and came out a nineteen.--Bigwill817 02:28, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ammo is endless, its not scare at all really. Just make sure you keep a good supply of chips. Get the upgrades to hand in clothing for chips and remember that cigs are currency too. Then the holovenders become an unlimited supply of ammo.Kaldhore 15:48, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Unable to send companions to Lucky 38 Suite, AGAIN.

After getting a new xbox that could read discs, just so I could play Fallout New Vegas again with the huge patch, I also purchased Dead Money. Loading up my once "dlc glitch" save, I fired Raul, because I wanted to have Boone again, but the option to send Raul to the suite was never offered and he just went to his stupid shack, and it happens with every companion I rehire and fire. Had to upload Yes Man originally so I could send companions, and, not being able to do so, have no idea how to get around this, does anyone else?(posted on both presidential suite and Dead money talk pages, as I'm unsure what the problem might be) 22:41, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Poisonous cloud bug

I don't know if anybody else has encountered this yet, but I've run across a persistent poisonous cloud bug. The game never registered that I left the poisonous area, so my health is still being drained after leaving the area entirely, sleeping for several days, using the autodoc in Vera's suite, and restarting the game. I even tried going into another poisonous cloud to see if that would trigger it. No such luck, my health is still being drained. At this point, I'm done. I can't keep pumping myself full of stimpacks forever, and losing sight of the health bar for even a few seconds could kill me. Has anybody else encountered this, or does anybody have any suggestions? --Sesana 19:26, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Are you playing in Hardcore? Because Hardcore Mode drains your health constantly with ANY exposure to the Cloud, not just the concentrated pockets. 02:59, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, on hardcore mode you constantly lose health throughout the town. Suggestions: before starting Dead Money, get the implant that gradually restores health (from the Doc at the New Vegas Medical Clinic): this implant basically counteracts that gradual leaching of HP in the Sierra Madre. That way you don't to constantly be sticking your self with stimpacks. And you don't have to be in direct sunlight for this implant to work. Also, when you have this implant and lose health for any reason (attacks, poison gas) you can go inside a sealed building (like the medical clinic) and your HP will be restored if you WAIT there for a few hours. Sleeping on beds exposed to the outside air is no solution. And the I assume the higher your Endurance the more you are able to withstand the persistent poison in the air -- although without that implant the DLC is a major chore to go through. --Sp3lly 18:05, February 8, 2011 (UTC)


I have the same problem i dont know how to fix it i cant beat the game and im not restarting after all this (Artanis) Feb 25 2011


Actually, this bug does exist. I play in Hardcore mode, and yes, exposure to the cloud slowly diminishes your HP, but when entering areas like the Sierra Madre Casino, which is supposed to be cloud-free, the health still depletes, even at the same rate that when standing in a concentrated pocket of it. I ran out of Stimpacks and Food items real quickly, and neither patching yourself in the autodoc nor restarting the game fixes this issue. This sucks. Reloading some old save and avoiding high concentrations of the cloud seems to be the only way to circumvent this, altough some specific area of the map may trigger this event. I hope somebody find a solution to the aforementioned bug, or Obsidian releases a patch to corect it, because my previous saves were overwritten, and I don't want to start Dead Money all over again. --Turkman96 00:40, February 28, 2011 (UTC)


I have this same bug. I contacted Bethesda for support and the response (from Josepth T) was pretty underwhelming, it shows the level of respect they have for their customers. "I am sorry your save game has become corrupted. Please try a previous save and/or new game."

A better solution for me was:

Use God Mode (Console - tgm) to temporarily stop the loss of health. This happened to me near the end of the DLC content so it was better to complete the game using this cheat rather than repeat hours of gameplay. I will try not to spoil anything here, but right before you're allowed to leave the DLC area you can turn God Mode off again and the health loss should stop. The other option is to return to a previous save. If you're close to the end of the DLC this may be a better option. --Jon

Stupid question....

Probably this is a very stupid question, but forgive me. I'm new to Fallout games and I don' know anything about DLC and how it works. So now I wanted to ask: can you use the items found in Sierra Madre (like amor and weapons) in the Mojave Wasteland? Xsdvd-12:40, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. --Sp3lly 17:44, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

No problem, everyones gotta start somewhere ;) Now, I don't know for sure since I'm on PS3, but from what I've heard, as long as you take the stuff that you want from the Sierra Madre, you can use it in the Mojave just fine. AR700SAW 13:28, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

THANK YOU!!! I have searched for HOURS on the eb for that answer, although it doesn't matter, I'll be waiting 5 months for the PC version :(

Sleep indicator stays at zero the entire DLC?

  • Xbox 360Icon xbox360.png Both times I played Dead Money on hardcore mode, the sleep need stayed at zero the entire time. Is this normal or a bug?

In addition, when I returned to the main game after completing the DLC Dead Money, the sleep indicator still stayed on ZERO. And I never switched out of hardcore mode at any point during the DLC or the main game. Now I know that is a bug, right? The only way I could trigger the SLP need to be active again was, ironically, to sleep for any period of time. Waiting, even for 24 hours, did not activate the sleep indicator --Sp3lly 18:38, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Not sure if its bugged to 0, but in the Dead money area you cannot sleep. Even on normal mode if you try to sleep it says that it isnt possible in this zone. I would presume the designers thought this whole episode takes place in less time that would normally require you to sleep - or that time is slowed down to that close to or at normal (real life) time. Probably is an oversight or presumption on the designers that the sleep indicator doesnt return to normal after you leave until you sleep again. They probably think you would sleep in the chamber in the bunker after you get out.Kaldhore 15:43, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

I got this same bug but on PS3. 07:22, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Very Good

I loved Dead Money. I think it was exactly what New Vegas needed. It was a good challenge. I thought the puzzle and horror aspects really made the DlC. The new characters were fun and intriguing, and I enjoyed how each one's perk was tactical for the environment. As for loot, the gold bars were great, the chips to be used for items were great, the Holo-rifle was pretty cool, the Auto-Rifle was pretty boss, and the Hunting shotgun and Gauss rifle were good(yes I know that they are in the base game). The story was very interesting to me, and I liked how at the end it gave you hints to the next DLC's. And the game ran glitch or bug free for me.--Bigwill817 02:27, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Agree with Bigwill 100% As a basically good karma character, but an absolute confirmed thief, the Dead Money storyline fit into my main game beautifully. I love rescuing people and stealing stuff, and got totally immersed right from the beginning. I first played the DLC on my 2nd playthrough of FONV (level 30) and it absolutely breathed new life into my game - I just didn't want it to end! I had read that it was best for melee/unarmed based characters, but that turned out to be totally untrue. You can rely mainly on guns/explosives if you want. The resources are scarce, but there's more than enough of everything if you're diligent. And, yeah, I've played Dead Money twice now without a single bug/glitch/crash - wow!! TedShred 20:07, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Impossible to finish (endless loop)

Okay, so I had a peaceful resolution with Dog/God in the kitchen; talking to him with my speech of 90+. I don't recall if it was after or before I had repaired the third gas pipe leak; I assume after. The problem now is that when I go to the Suites to find the mute, I cannot complete that quest. Because when I try to use the key card to go through the maintenance door (or whatever door leads back to the part of the suites where the mute is), I get a message that says that I cannot open this sealed door because of a gas pipe leak in the kitchen. Well, that's great! Because I cannot use the regular elevator to go back down to the lobby (and then the kitchen) because this elevator says locked (needs key). So WTF? I reloaded from before I went up to the suites and rechecked to make sure all three valves in the kitchen were turned off -- which they were; and God/Dog was kinda pacing the floor. So whatever. The first time I played the DLC I killed Dog in the kitchen but I wanted to go a different route this time; i also completed the Dean scenario without having to kill him. But I cannot complete the third scenario. It appears unsolvable. Which is absolutely frustrating. Anyone else this problem or a possible solution? --Sp3lly 20:03, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Its a Different Kitchen. The Kitchen Where Dog/God is, Is in the Cantina - Not the suites. The Kitchen in the suites also has a gas leak, and you have to work your way around the level/floor and find a terminal to release the Door lock.(I did this anon but now have and account >>>)Kaldhore 16:00, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Returning lost companions

Can anyone who had lost a companion before starting the DLC confirm that they were sent to their appropriate location once the DLC was started? ED-E to Primm, Boone to Novac etc. This could be my chance to get ED-E back.-- 22:12, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

It did not return ED-E for me.-- 21:24, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

I am so pissed off right now. After slogging through this gruelling, infuriating endurance test of a DLC (Dead Money) that's *supposed* to pass for 'fun', I've arrived back at the Mohave to find ED-E at Primm, hostile and killing everyone in sight the moment he sees me (yes, I have already completed ED-E My Love...that's not the problem). He's in the store where he's supposed to be, but when i walk in he goes crazy, killing Nash and his wife, then exits in pursuit of me, and kills everyone around. The endless New Vegas glitches I've put up with were bad enough, but now this. I'm so sick of this game simply NOT WORKING. Vault Girl 31 March 2011

PS3 release

It's today right? RIGHT?!? Argh, someone at Obsidian and Sony need to wake up and get this thing rolling... Maybe 5:36 is too early to hope they'd have it up. Nathan Hale 10:36, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Thank God someone else has my prob . Im in Ireland and i checked at 10am and 1230pm and it isnt on psstore, PSN Dusty_Hammer

It's 1 pm US EST. I updated my PS3, turned it on and off. And im still waiting. I give them until 3. PSN AJK1096

It appears that they're moving it back a day for PS3, or maybe even thurs (that's normal store update day, they say) Nathan Hale 18:44, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
nope, it's up now Nathan Hale 00:22, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

It still isnt there for me the next day at 9am in Ireland PSN Dusty_Hammer

DLC isnt triggering.

Ive been walking around for a bit now, even lock picked the bos bunker, but still no DLC. Any help?

DLC didn't trigger

The DLC isn't triggering on my PS3 (no Pip-Boy message, not even in the main menu under 'downloadable content') , I already tried re-installing it, with no effect. HELP PLEASE!

Are you conected to the internet when you start up the game? There is an update that you need after installing. Also you need to use a save that wasnt the one just before you did the final mission. Dont know if any of that helps Kaldhore 17:00, February 27, 2011 (UTC)


After starting the DLC, and talking to the hologram of what's his face, the game freezes a few seconds after the conversation ends. I've tried reverting to other saves, but it continues to freeze up after the conversation. Help?

Do you have the Missing Laser Pistol? If it's equipped, you'll crash every time. ZappaFan 16:33, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

What's with the red "X" on the jumpsuit and Silus's armour?

Didn't really think the red "X" on the back of the Dead Money jumpsuit was significant at the time (just thought it was kinda cool-looking), but after finishing the DLC (which I absolutely LOVED) I helped Lt. Carrie Boyd interrogate (beat the hell out of) the captured Legion Centurion, Silus, at McCarran and noticed that he's wearing a piece of power armour (shoulder) with the same red "X" on it. Centurions piece together their armour by looting fallen enemies, so I thought this was kinda interesting. TedShred 17:48, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

The slaves at Caesars camp wear bag-clothing with the red X on it too... "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." Thomas Jefferson. Helena 14:19, May 24, 2011 (UTC)Helena


I've played all the way through Dead Money on PS3, and when I try to leave the Sierra Madre, and return to the mojave, the cutscene starts to load, and then my game freezes. Are there any fixes for this, or will I have to wait for a patch? Blazingsand 05:17, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Massive Reference/Easter Egg

Okay I was researching films today (don't ask why), and found one called "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre", initially I thought this was obviously a coincidence- there are a great many "Sierra Madre's" in the world, but when I looked for more information on the film (and the book it was based on) I found a great many similarities between it and the FNV DLC. Firstly, and most obviously, both feature a group of people searching for gold in the Sierra Madre (in one, a casino, in the other a mountain range) and in the film/book one member of the group becomes paranoid and tries to kill the others to get the gold for himself (which, according to Elijah, is what most of the previous "teams" have done). Also notable is the town where the group meets- Tampico, the name of the SM's theatre. I'm quite surprised nobody has pointed this out before (or maybe they have, I just haven't seen it)as it is fairly notable.

Did you WATCH the Treasure of the Sierra Madre? It's an amazing film and you'll understand why the designers were inspired by it. "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." Thomas Jefferson. Helena 14:21, May 24, 2011 (UTC)Helena

This shit doesn't work.

It crashes between the end of the first conversation with Elijah, but before Vera can initiate conversasion. Or whatever she does, I assume it's talk but I wouldn't know because the fucking game crashes at that point. Every time. I have thrown every diagnostic tool that Google and my own experience can at it to no avail. I've disabled my mods, I've redownloaded everything through Steam, I've verified the game cache, I've fucked around with load orders, yet nothing. Still crashes. Still annoying.

The DLC is fucking broken. I want a patch or I want my money back.

Or maybe it's just the game itself? It's always crashed during the ending slides for me, too. TestECull

There are several ways into getting the crash for Dead Money. Most are pointing to having some specific quest items. However, it is also known that if you complete Veronica's Quest (I Could Make You Care) or in the process of doing so, it can crash. This is confirmed on my save. Loaded to a game before I met Veronica, did Dead Money and it loaded fine. Previously, it kept crashing at the same point. So try and load something earlier and see if that does the trick. ( 23:12, April 22, 2011 (UTC))

Do you think that your use of curse words is really appropriate on this forum? It's not. Do you mistakenly think it makes you cool or are you just such a self absorbed jerk that you have no respect for any of the human beings you share this planet with?

I notice you declined to sign your post, so I'm taking that as proof that you KNOW you are wrong.

"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." Thomas Jefferson. Helena 14:24, May 24, 2011 (UTC)HelenaHanbazkt


If I have already finished the game, am i able to play the DLC?? If yes, in what way??

Missing Laser Pistol Bug - CRASH

The Wiki mentions taking the Missing Laser Pistol with you when you start Dead Money. Just make sure you DO NOT have it equipped or the game will crash after Father Elijah finishes his talk. Tested multiple times on PC. ZappaFan 16:38, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Levelling beyond 35

Has anyone else been able to level beyond 35 with this? If you go into the pip-boy it will say "MAX" on experience, but I still got more, then when I got level 36 it went to 98000/101000 (or thereabouts) ... I'm getting the Fallout 2 vibe from this :)) Playing on PC. Dcruze 05:30, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

I think it was a one-time glitch. I haven't been able to reproduce it. Too bad it happened when I was doing the final mission... :) Dcruze 17:40, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Headgear bonus staying? Not on my PC it didn't...

"If you start the DLC with any headgear that gives bonus, like 1st Recon Beret or a Power Helmet, the bonus stays for the rest of the DLC. " I tested this a few different ways on my PC version and it never worked. My 1st Recon Beret gets removed and I no longer have the bonus from it. --ZappaFan 12:49, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

On my XBOX, when I began Dead Money, it stripped all my gear but the stuff that you can't drop... I happened to have Motor Runner's helmet and it's bonus to melee weapons. Didn't glitch the bonus or anything, but it did beat being naked in the Villa. With the Jury Rig perk it's easy to keep it repaired too.

Good Luck!

PS It's sure a shame the camera doesn't work, I could have gotten some good pics for MichaelAngelo!

"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." Thomas Jefferson. Helena 14:17, May 24, 2011 (UTC)HelenaHanbazkt

Sierra Madre before the war and end bug

I was thinking when in the Casino, this would have been so cool before the war.So I think there should be an extra or add-on where you get to live in the Sierra Madre before the war and not only playing in the casino but also meet people like Frederick Sinclair, Vera Keyes and Dean Domino before he became a ghoul.

Also at the end of Dead Money when I return to the Mojave Wasteland it freezes when the ending is about to start, I was wondering if there is any way to stop this, or will have to wait for an update and if I do when will it come?


leaving the bos bunker

so i already beat dead money and i have all 37 bricks of gold with me but when i try 2 leave the stupid ass bos bunker it says key is required but there is no fucking key does anybody no how to get out of this fucking bunker....i could really use the hel thanx

the current patch is blocking the exit. try to delete the patch then play without it until u get out.

how to get back into the dlc??

Ive been looking 4 a way to but is there or once you beat it you cant go back ??

Normally, you cannot go back into it. However, with the magic of console commands you can! The door back to the villa is directly under the radio in the bunker. You'll have to use TCL to clip through the floor. Once at the Villa, the door back will give you the same message to remain or leave. However, selecting leave does nothing! Once again, the console saves the day. Click the gate while in the console and type "activate". Presto, back in the bunker. KaisarDragon 01:00, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Stealth Boy location

Is there a Stealth Boy in the casino or do I have to reload to before entering it? (I totally don't want to do the whole casino again!) "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." Thomas Jefferson. Helena 04:27, May 24, 2011 (UTC)HelenaHanbazkt

In case you never got your answer: Everytime I have entered the inner vault there has been one in the Tool Cabinet in the corner. I've also been able to pick one up somewhere in Salida del Sol. It has been said that more can be found but I haven't found them.

-- 06:08, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Dead Money Health loss glitch fix.

If you have the bug from Dead Money that causes you to be taking constant health damage even when your not in a concentrated cloud area, and/or this damage continues even after you have finished Dead Money and gone back to the Mojave.

Probably only one or the other of these console commands is needed but I used both because they both relate to The Cloud damage triggering on your character.

resetquest xx00E882 resetquest xx00C543

These are the quest ID's for The Cloud damage and The Cloud DOT effect while in Dead Money. The xx in the beginning is indicative of the fact that those two #'s could be different depending on which DLC you have. In my case they are 01, but this might be different for you.

Of course, this is for PC only. Aliantha 00:52, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

It was 03 for me (0300E882, 0300C543) and it worked like a charm, thanks. When you type the correct code it looks like nothing happens, no error code, but the health loss just stops. 03:45, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Dead Money Crash On Launch / Bug

I just ran into a peculiar bug. It took me a long time to trace it down. Basically, whenever I got gassed at the start of Dead Money, the game crashed for no apparent reason. Enabling or disabling mods or load orders didn't matter. I even re-installed Dead Money/Honest Hearts and patched to the latest patch.

Basically, if any of your companions (in my case Veronica) is carrying a load bigger than he or she is supposed to, the game crashes. This can be done if you, for example, load a follower up to almost full and then dump a large amount of ammunition in their inventory. The game only takes the basic weight into account and suddenly they are carrying more than they should be able to do (but it will still say 250/250). This causes the game to crash, even if said follower are not in your group when Dead Money is supposed to start.

Could someone try this and confirm, before I enter it into the bugs section? I tried it a lot of times on my setup and it's very consistent (100%) and I can recreate it at any point. Luckmann 00:08, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Interesting things...

I got God waiting to flip the switch and now I am taking Dean to his place. However, every single time I open the door to Puesto De Sol or where ever, game crashes. How odd. Also, for the dead man's hand, I got all 5 using one card. I just kept dropping the jack I found and picking it back up. Game registered each pickup. KaisarDragon 16:03, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

This is weird..

In this DLC, and Honest Hearts too, Victor's map marker appears on my map but in a place I cant reach. Does anyone know why he keeps appearing the the DLC's?


Shouldn't Frederick Sinclair appear in the characters category? He does not appear alive nor can be interacted with but he physically appears and is mentioned many times.

Let's put him on the characters category, anyone agrees?

Agreed. Go right ahead. Yes Man default.png 03:56, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

dead money stuff

can you purchase any weapons etc from merchants in the mojave after beating dead money which are only found in dead money? (eg can i buy cosmic knifes or knive spears from merchants after dead money) because on the old world blues page it says you can do this with some owb stuff and it doesn't say here so i thought i'd ask. ps same question for honest hearts stuff

No to the Dead Money items. I have yet to find in multiple play throughs any Dead Money introduced item available at any Mojave merchant. I have however been able to find Honest Hearts introduced items available at Merchants after the completion of Honest Hearts DLC. After a few game completions after OWB DLC I have yet to find an item introduced by OWB available at a Mojave Merchant. -- 06:21, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Misspelled In Credits

In the latest PS3 version WITHOUT any dlc, it's misspelled in the credits("Dead Monkey Team"). I know it's Dead Money, because it mentions God/Dog. -- 04:29, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Could it be Wild Wasteland? Wild Wasteland changes the Credits, I'm not sure about DLC. Pat:3Macybraa se.gif 07:43, July 30, 2011 (UTC)
That's always a possibility, but neither the Wild Wasteland page or it's Talk page mention it. -- 17:46, July 30, 2011 (UTC)


Is it worth noting that dead money is slang for somebody who is bad at gambling making it easy to take money from them, like how its easy for the Sierra Madre to attract treasure hunters. -The Polar Bear lives 05:24, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

I think it does somewhere... It certainly did at one time, because I first read something similar on here. TheGuardianCalligraphy.pngGuardianoftheWastesTag.png

Hardcore Mode Dehydration/Starvation Glitch (XBox 360)

Very recently encountered a very unusual bug while playing Dead Money in Hardcore mode - any time I reload my savefile my H20 and FOD meters get bumped up to around the 200-300 mark, while SLP gets reset to zero. Pretty bizarre, not to mention inconvenient considering what the Sierra Madre is like. Anyone know anything about this? 00:21, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

As an update to the above, autosaves are not affected, strangely. Only regular saves. Very odd indeed. 00:30, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Scratch that - I discovered that simply deleting the save and saving in a fresh slot eliminates the problem. So it's unusual, but not worrisome. 01:34, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Console command to make Dean Domino like you?


I have Dead Money on PC and I didn't read any guides on it before hand. I'm at the part where you have to confront Dean domino and I screwed up at the very beginning and I guess insulted his ego so now he wants me dead but I want him to live. Anyone know of a console command or something I can use to undo my screw up without having to restart a whole nights worth of work? Thanks any help would be appreciated :).

dead money/problem

I am at the switching station,Dog will wait but not agree to pull the switches,he,s hungry, but i have killed all the ghost harvesters in the area.I have an intelligence level six and cannot continue in the quest.any suggestions?.

Either use mentats to raise your intelligence, or kill 2 ghost harvesters, loot their meat, and give it to God (not Dog). Mark<staff /> (talk) 12:40, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
I have a somewhat relevant question regarding that bit, actually - I just passed it and only realised I could apply my INT stat to the diagram of the switches AFTER I had already convinced God to stay in place. I'm wondering how that bit works - can you pull the switches yourself, or is it to allow you to explain to Dog how to do it? 23:12, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
       reply:Well at the cage I took a Mentat to increase mt intelligence level and read the diagram, which told me I now had the sequence for the switches, to relay to god/dog.I then had to play the audio master tape to change dog into his god alter ego.As my speech level is 90 I had no problem in persuading god to stay and so continue on.If you look at switches they tell you that you do not possess the physical strength to pull them.
Ah, I see. I was wondering if having max STR would have let you pull the switches yourself, but I guess that wouldn't make much sense, since it would make God/Dog completely redundant. Thanks, I was just curious. 18:52, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

I tried DM after completing OWB, thus managing to have a STR of 325 and still was unable to convince God/Dog that I could pull the switches. BTW 325 came from STR of 7, then buying a STR implant before going into OWB. The replacement of my spine in OWB boosted STR by 2 making 10 while wearing light armor. Then having the Auto-Doc give me the Hoarder perk combined with Strong Back perk, giving me a 325. --Bartlmay 06:37, September 10, 2011 (UTC)


does anyone else's character randomly die after loading? ive had to play through the dead money campaign 4 times and still haven't got tho the end because of this bull

Bethesda copy?

Did Bethesda just copy Zelda all the tasks seemed Zelda-ie

play time?

anybdoy know how much play time is added by this dlc in completing these quests?(obviously this would be a very rough estimate since it varies person to person how quickly they do it)

its  about 4-5 hours if you collect all the tokens and gold bars.

Old World Blues/ Dead Money/

Does anyone know if the new DLCs included resolutions to the cheats for Dead Money? I can't seem to sneak past Elijah anymore with the gold. He spots me every time now and activates the shields.

"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." Thomas Jefferson. Helena 15:04, September 16, 2011 (UTC)HelenaHanbazkt

Since installing OWB, and in fact visiting Big MT before going to Sierra Madre, I have still been able to get all 37 bars of Gold out of the vault. The trick I learned somewhere in this Wiki. Even though it takes a while, walk to the rear force field, next to the Maintenance door. About ten feet before reaching the Field go to 3rd person, save the game, drop the gold. Then shoot the Gold toward the Force Field, taking two more shots after it is against the Force Field. Yes, you will be shot by the turret while you are shooting the Gold toward the Force Field. Proceed to killing Elijah, or not, and make your way around to the maintenance door. Turbo chems or the GRX implant will help. once through the Maintenance door go back to third person and pick up the Gold, again a Turbo or GRX implant will help with the pickup. Then make your way to the elevator. I was able to repeat this process a number of times. I found that Elijah made it to the covered walkway every time, making it impossible to bypass him to just lock him in the vault. But at least you got all 37 bars of Gold. --Bartlmay 23:02, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Danny Parker

Someone please add Danny Parker to the "mentioned-only characters" section, because I don't know how to edit it... Schredas 11:51, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Couriers Stash

We all know that when going to Sierra Madre we lose all items from Mojave. It may be called a glitch but, if after adding Couriers Stash you go to a save game that is inside Sierra Madre you will be granted all weapons and armor that the Couriers Stash gives you. The not so beneficial part of this glitch is that the minimum armor and weaponry that is granted by Dead Money is better than that which is granted by Couriers Stash. I have not checked if this is true when starting a new game after installing Couriers Stash. --Bartlmay 22:44, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

This is related to the functionality of the DLC, which simply adds all this content upon loading, regardless of location or character. Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 08:17, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

9mm pistol

Has anyone else found it? It's in the villa, though i can't remember where.-- 01:25, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

there are much better weapons around such as the asault carbine, the caran shotgun and the holorifle.

Dean Domino Backstage Key Issue

I've noticed a topic has already been started in regards to this issue but it didnt help me in the slightest. So after my conversation with Dean I disable all the holograph emitters and find my way to Vera and the Backstage door, even though I clearly have the key I cannot enter either door to progress in the game. I've tried restarting my conversation with Dean and even though I'm sitting at a level of 37 and a Speech level of 95 no dialogue appears to change the conversations outcome. I'm at a loss here and want to continue playing because I enjoy everything about this gamne up uintil this frustrating point. I understand I need to get into the backstage door and even though I picked the key up infront of the stage just before my conversation with Dean and even though my inventory clearly states I have the key I still cannot enter the room to continue in the game. If anyone has a fix for this it would be greatly appreciated.

Did the later DLCs include a patch for this one?

I can't glitch the gold bars trick anymore and I refuse to leave them behind, so I'm kinda stuck.

I added a trivia section.

This is purely speculation, but I googled "dead money" and looked at the Wikipedia page and the slang/derogatory meaning of the term seems to be why this DLC was called "Dead Money".

From Wikipedia: "In poker, dead money is the amount of money in the pot other than the equal amounts bet by active remaining players in that pot...The term "dead money"... can also be applied to the player himself: "Let's invite John every week; he's dead money". The term "dead money" also applies in tournaments, when many casual players enter events with virtually no chance of winning."

I am going to try to add a Trivia section (as my contribution is purely speculation and I havent asked Bethesda whether my explanation of why the DLC is called Dead Money is correct), though I'm unfamiliar with wiki markup/syntax so I apologize if I screw anything up. Also I'm not sure if speculation is allowed on a topics page so I'm sorry if it isn't.

Here's what I just added:

"'Dead Money' is a slang term used in poker to refer to a player that contributes money to the pot and believes they have a chance at winning, but in reality they have almost no such chance due to a lack of skill or experience. This could metaphorically describe Elijah's view of the Courier as they were lured to the Sierra Madre with promises of a great reward, but in his mind they are dead money as it is unlikely their contribution will be rewarded in any way."

M1nt3a 14:40, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Crash on Leaving Sierra Madre

After finishing the questline, the game would crash every time on leaving to the Mojave. Fixed it by turning off Hardcore. Bye-bye achievement.