User talk:Ogly27270

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 * Ausir(talk) 10:01, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Turkish Vault
The Turkish version of The Vault has been set up at http://tr.fallout.wikia.com/. Ausir(talk) 10:01, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Template Help
Well, the bot can't really work across wikis (only on one at a time) so that's not going to work, I'm afraid. What exactly do you need help with? -- Porter21 (talk) 19:55, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

As Ausir said, i have to copy these "basic templates" in this link: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Templates

He said you can help me. As i, said to him, i can make the translatiıon, but i don't know a thing about these templates or putting videos. --Ogly 20:14, 1 August 2009 (UTC)Ogly


 * As I said, Ausir probably assumed I could use a bot to copy the templates over (a bot is a program which makes specified edits automatically) but that is not the case, it doesn't work. However, if you could give me sysop rights at the Turkish Vault temporarily I could export the template pages from here and import them over there. This way you'll have all the templates we have here at the Turkish Vault as well. Once that is done, I can show you what you have to translate in the templates if you want. -- Porter21 (talk) 20:21, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

1. What is a sysop? Am I a sysop!? 2. How can i give you my rights as sysop temporarily? --Ogly 20:24, 1 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Sysop = admin. I've just checked, the only admin at the Turkish Vault is Ausir, so he'll have to give me sysop rights (or do the exporting/importing himself, it's not like he couldn't do that ;)). -- Porter21 (talk) 20:29, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

OK then, you are gonna ask him ? I can ask too, also when i learned enough about these templates and putting videos, can i be one of the sysops at the Turkish Vault? Or do i have to edit 500 articles? --Ogly 20:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, you'll have to ask Ausir about becoming a sysop - although I doubt that you need to have 500 edits, those requirements are for the English Vault only. I'll leave a message on Ausir's talk page about the template business. -- Porter21 (talk) 20:35, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

You and me are new sysops of Turkish Vault. So you can help me now(?) --Ogly 20:40, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

So? You agree? Are you going to help me? --Ogly 20:54, 1 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't have the time right now but I'll see what I can do tomorrow. -- Porter21 (talk) 21:13, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks --Ogly 21:14, 1 August 2009 (UTC)


 * It seems Ausir did the importing over night. You'll find the templates in Kategori:Templates and its subcategories. To rename a template, simply move it to a new name. I guess I don't need to explain how to translate things in general :)


 * Just one thing regarding parameters: to translate the values you can enter for a template, you'll have to search for words enclosed in  (like  ) and change them. The word within the brackets is the value you can enter. As an example, take a look at Template:Infobox character: you'll see that the documentation says you can enter the value  . If you look at the source code, you'll find   enclosed in the brackets; if you change it to "anothername", you could no longer use the value   but instead the value  . If my explanation is too confusing, just take a look at Help:Templates.


 * And another thing - do not change the values which are in "class" or "style" tags (e.g.  or  . The words and everything within the quotation marks should stay as it is - it needs to be that way because internet browsers will not understand the translated words and everything will look screwed up if they are changed. -- Porter21 (talk) 09:53, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Can i change the part with [Developer]? I tried but it didn't worked. Is there a way that i can change that part with Turkish words? --Ogly 15:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, that was what I was trying to explain above - "developer" would be one of the parameters I was talking about. -- Porter21 (talk) 15:50, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, i made some templates at Turkish Vault. It is just copying, and some little changes right?


 * Not sure what you mean, sorry. -- Porter21 (talk) 16:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I mean - so, it cannot be changed. I can't change the parameters. Also, it is really easy, just copy things to Turkish Vault with some little changes.(?)


 * You can change the names of the parameters. Ausir has already copied all templates from here to the Turkish Vault, they can be found in Kategori:Templates at the Turkish Vault. I'll try to give you an example of how you can change the name of the parameters but I'd recommend you take a look at Help:Templates to understand the basics of how templates work.


 * Now, let's take Template:Infobox game as an example since you brought it up. You will find it at Şablon:Game at the Turkish Vault. When you edit it, this is what it looks like:

and this how you'd use it in an article (for example): Now you want to change the parameter "developer" into the Turkish equivalent. I'll just use "example" as the new name for the parameter since I don't speak Turkish :) If you look at the first block I posted, you'll see this row: "datarow" is another template which is used to produce a line within the infobox - don't worry about that for now, and just leave the name as is. "Developer:" is what is displayed on the left when the template is used in a page - you should change this. And the stuff within the brackets (i.e. between ) is what determines the name of the parameter - in this case it means that anything which is entered with  or   within the template should be displayed in this place.

Now, let's change it to "example". I'll change the "label" (which is displayed on the left in the article) to "Example2" and the name of the parameter to "example": Now you could use the template like this: I hope this helps, but I don't know how I could explain it much simpler. -- Porter21 (talk) 16:56, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, you helped me really much --Ogly 17:07, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to interrupt you again, i did what you said but some problem appeared, can you take a look at the "Fallout" article at Turkish Vault? Look at the info template


 * You need to edit the template, not put the template code itself on the page. Please see the modifications I made to Şablon:Game and Fallout on the Turkish Vault (links: differences in Fallout article and differences in Şablon:Game. -- Porter21 (talk) 20:00, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Now i understand, thanks for everything, i didn't understand everything you said, i'm still learning English and i don't know some words. That's because i got it this hard


 * No problem, I guess even a lot of native speakers would have trouble understanding that withour prior experience with templates. -- Porter21 (talk) 20:37, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Torcher
The baseid for Torcher is  - the two ids were mixed up in the article. -- Porter21 (talk) 23:02, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks --Ogly 23:02, 2 August 2009 (UTC)