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-- Nitpicker of the Wastes (Talk) 01:25, May 5, 2010

Postman
Sharing a first name as common as "Nathan" is pretty thin. Beyond that, the only justification you provided was that the Postman Nathan formed some troop of soldiers, while the FO3 Nathan is a daydreaming fan of some soldiers. Doesn't sound like much to me. Is this anything more?--Gothemasticator 04:42, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Just hear me out
Alright thats fine, I'll try to make my counter argument short and sweet so read it but you don't need to heed it: A lot of Fallout 3's names and characters are crude or obvious references to names and characters in other movies/books/real people. Now knowing this, it is a large coincidence that there is a man named Nathan who in FO3 is a avid supporter of a group of elitist murderers, and Nathan in The Postman "created" (therefore he must also support right?) a group of elitist murderers, Both of these happening in post apocalyptic worlds. In my note I said "may be a reference." there's no harm in saying that its a possibility right? Like I said, its your call and if you say no then that's fine, I meant no disrespect.

More on Nathan
I guess I didn't respond to your latest post on the subject. Well, here goes...

The way cultural references work in general is by including a direct and particular visual or textual echo of another work. For example, having a character yell, "Oh my God. They've killed Kenny!" is a reference to South Park. That's a line taken directly from South Park, couldn't be from somewhere else, and is instantly recognizable to South Park fans. The fun in such a reference is twofold: the lulz that result from using the South Park line outside of its original context and the pleasant jolt of recognition the reader/viewer/gamer gets upon hearing the line.

What you are describing with the two Nathans is a small list of similarities. Nothing concrete and nothing that couldn't just as easily be explained as coincidence. Broad contextual similarities and the coincidence of what is a fairly common first name just don't add up.

Thanks for being civil about this whole discussion.--Gothemasticator 17:21, May 6, 2010 (UTC)