Forum:The Enclave: Their Size and Locations

How large do you think the Enclave were by population? Specifically, their military. And I'm asking about their numbers before the Oil Rig went bye-bye. Also, how many installations, bunkers, or other military bases do you think they maintained and controlled after the War? A bunch of their members were said to have retreated to "remote sections around the globe", but other than these far off hideaways, do you think they also hid in some places on the mainland, or built and maintained other bunkers and bases there? The Remnants Bunker in the Mojave Wasteland was a Vertibird refueling station, so what do you think this means? Did the Enclave have dozens, maybe hundreds of these hidden refueling stations or other bunkers built beneath the wasteland in pre-War times, all in order to service their forces when the time came to leave the Oil Rig and retake America? Or did they not only retreat to the Oi Rig, but also hid themselves in their own personal vaults or bunkers when the War came? Thoughts? Rilery13 (talk) 20:40, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

In 2241 the only enclave facilites with personel were: Oil Rig and Navarro. Richardson: "{You could try, I suppose, but soon the staff of the Enclave and Navarro will be inoculated" Enclave - Oil Rig (it's kinda obvious that he not refer to the Enclave as whole faction, because in the same moment he refer to Navarro as facility). Then we can just look there http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Oil_Rig#Inhabitants So MAX population of Enclave was 1k. Before entire scheme with destroying the world (FO2 arc) Oil Rig was only home to government, some scientist and their security. All other people were living in some other places: because of this -> http://web.archive.org/web/20011114212204/http://vault13.net/articles.php?id=29 But they just went to Oil Rig for inoculation. As for other bases just look there: http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Enclave#Enclave_bases And check REF 91 and REF 92. --Languorous_Maiar (talk) 20:49, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Ah, those few quotes and references were all I needed. Thank you, you're very informed on all of this. How do you think they fared in the years after the loss of the Oil Rig? Autumn Sn.led a large number of them to the East Coast eventually, but I forget the year (if it was even stated, I can't remember), but Navarro was still fully operational and staffed, as proved by ED-E's dialogue files. Once Richardson was dead, John Henry Eden sent the signal to the surviving forces that he was now President, and for them to relocate to the East Coast. Maybe the higher officials and leaders in the Enclave stayed in Navarro with their own forces and staff, and just sent Autumn Sn. east with his own expeditionary force for reasons. Along the way, maybe they formed permanent bases and outposts like the ones at Chicago. Thoughts? Something I got wrong or overlooked? Rilery13 (talk) 21:50, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

I don't have a time to write facts on the forum, if most of them already exists in some articles. If you wanna clear answers from me, add me on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Languorous_Maiar/ --Languorous_Maiar (talk) 14:42, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Oh okay, sorry. If I get Steam, I'll definitely add you. Rilery13 (talk) 18:59, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

I can always use FB/x-fire/raptr/whatever you want, just say what. Basically: -Autumn Senior escaped from Oil Rig during it destruction, and never ever visited Navarro after this point. -That's why Enclave guys from FNV don't mention Enclave from capital at all, that's why they treated fall of Navarro as final fall of Enclave, and that's why William Brandice didn't knew about Enclave too (he went from Navarro to capital, but not with Autumn) -That's also why Navarro remained as enclave base. Becasue they were not having any place to hide. As for Outpost in Chicago. If Senior Autumn did not left any people there, when he was going to Capital, then for sure it's empty. -Maiar