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-- Ausir (Talk) 21:21, February 15, 2011

Baja Rangers article
There's not really much I could contribute to the discussion seeing as I haven't played Fallout: New Vegas ;) -- Porter21 (talk) 22:43, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Use the article talk page to discuss the merge. --Flower of Pock-Lips 22:47, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've read all the dialogue you posted on Nitty's page, and here's what info it yields:
 * A group of NCR settlers in Baja staked a claim at a well.
 * The same group of NCR settlers in Baja murdered a bunch of thirsty civilians.
 * Regular rangers went out to investigate tales of raiders.
 * The same regular rangers found the claim-staking NCR settlers and came up with a diplomatic solution.

In summary, no mention of a special Baja Rangers group.--Gothemasticator 16:39, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Runtimeerrorboy Here is the entire speech Hanlon gives.


 * They weren't blood thirsty civilians -- so where ever you got your information is creating their own facts.
 * The Rangers didn't stake a claim, but took it from locals most likely, but that is up for debate.

Chief Hanlon: (upon successful speech 50 check) "It's kind of a long one, but all right.  About twenty, twenty-five years ago, a group of NCR settlers pushed way south into Baja. They built this little shanty town around a well in the middle of nowhere. Called it Rattletail. Word got back to one of our stations that raiders had been attacking the place. I went out with six rangers. We must have been on the trail for a week before we got to Rattletail. We lost one woman to Night Stalkers and another almost died of dehydration. When we reached the place, it's six shacks set up around an old well. There's over two dozen bodies lying in the dunes way outside of town and five men with .308 rifles crouched behind sand bags. And these bodies, these people out in the sand, they aren't raiders. Aren't even heavily armed. They're just people who were trying to get to the only well in fifty miles. I didn't have to talk to the men to see that they did not care one bit. They had planted an NCR flag over the well and they would not budge until every last one of them was laid out, dead and cold. So I walked up and told them there was a group of raiders coming, one hundred strong. I made up some cockamamie name for them and everything. The men looked at each other, looked at us, and asked me what we were going to do about it. I told him we would take them back into NCR territory because we had already lose ten rangers on the way out. Ten Rangers, five men with .308 rifles. Well, that was enough for them. They packed up what they could and we took them back north. Last I heard, they settled somewhere in Anza-Borrego. Raised Bighoerners. Had some tough times, but it worked out okay for them. So there you go. That's my one bit of good." Hannon also describes the differences between NCR soldiers and Rangers. Unlike NCR troops who are sometimes Conscripted into the army, all NCR Rangers are volunteers. Most likely all the Baja Rangers knew each other, specially after the dialog describing the tense scenario of confronting them after the massacre, since all Rangers are volunteers, but yet again this is speculation.

There is also a specific mention to 'the Baja Rangers' as entirely separate section of Rangers and not just referencing their geographic location by saying the Rangers in Baja, but some jerk deleted my post. I will be forced to replay a scenario to get the dialog proof.

Baja
No.

There are several lines that say that "the Ranger Vets are coming up from Baja".

Therefore, the ranger vets are the "Baja rangers". Nitty Tok. 17:48, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Runtimeerrorboy WHOA MAJOR REVELATION!!!

The Desert Rangers are the Baja Rangers, and here is the explanation. Travel to the Mojave Outpost and read the Unification Treaty Monument. It reads as follows.

"In the year 2271, the Desert Rangers of Nevada and rangers of the New California Republic met at this spot to sign the Ranger Unification Treaty. Under this treaty, the Desert Rangers agreed to be absorbed into the NCR in exchange for NCR's protection of Hoover Dam, New Vegas, and southern Nevada against forces of Caesar's Legion."

When looking at the two statues there are clearly two figures that represent NCR and the Desert Rangers. But which is which?

I propose the soldier dressed as a Veteran Ranger is actually a Desert Ranger, and the Ranger with a 'cowboy/commanding hat' is NCR. The evidence lies in how NCR soldiers dress, and how the Baja/Veteran Rangers dress.

More discussion please.

Runtimeerrorboy I no longer argue that they are totally independent, but simply a way of referencing the 'Desert Rangers' now that they have unified with the NCR.

P.S. One minor difference. The Desert Rangers, if they are the Baja Rangers, would have never worn the NCR bear logo on their coats. Only the Baja Rangers would be wearing the NCR insignia.

P.P.S. As we all should know, from Fallout, Tycho from Shady Sands was the likely inspiration for the Veteran Rangers, and he is from Nevada.

Some direction for you
There is no evidence of a group called the "Baja Rangers." Therefore, do not make any edits to articles on this wiki purporting their existence.--Gothemasticator 05:53, February 19, 2011 (UTC)