Talk:John Henry Eden

"East coast" Enclve had access to incredible technology and broadcast patriotic marching band music.--dotz 05:18, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, Richardson was Enclave President also!--dotz 12:38, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, hence the (Fallout 3) disambiguation. The page title will be changed to his full name anyway, as soon as it's revealed. Ausir 13:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Rescuing ZAX mainframe from dying oil rig. Stange idea. What is exact difference in Fallout world between AI and highly advanced AI? (re: last edit)--dotz 21:34, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It was never on the oil rig, it was always at Raven Rock, built before the war. Probably communicated with the oil rig through PoseidoNet. As for highly advanced AI - I guess one that can successfully imitate a human. Ausir 21:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I think AI person is able to imitate a human anyway (I recommend Perfect Imperfection by Dukaj).--dotz 22:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * it was always at Raven Rock, built before the war. Probably communicated with the oil rig through PoseidoNet. - Raven Rock was not mentioned as possible website when Chosen One searched PoseidoNet in Gecko.--dotz 19:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Just because it wasn't available from Gecko doesn't mean it wasn't connected to the PoseidoNet. The power plant might simply not have enough clearance to know about it. Ausir 21:01, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Naming Importance
The story of John Henry was about how man is superior to machine, and that the new fancy steam-shovels are no match for a great man with will and determination and all that stuff. The choice of John Henry for the AI mainfame is therefore ironic, as it is a machine triumphing over man (at least, attempting to succeed where men had failed) named after a man whose myth was triumphing over machine. So, like with Fawkes, it has a somewhat deeper meaning--but still really obvious.


 * Fawkes - Dumbledore's phoenix?dotz 11:27, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Huh? Fawkes - Guy Fawkes and V for Vendetta. Ausir 11:48, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

was just wondering... who is the master mentioned? is that meant to be there or is it some idiot naming himself?
 * The Master was the end-game boss of Fallout 1. Highly recommend anyone to play F1+F2 to get a real 'feel' of the game, preferrably before Fallout 3 - although we all know most people are unlikely to do that :(... - Johnbob

spoiler
yeah guys, this needs a spoiler warning, i dont know if its on one of the parent pages, but i clicked the name out of curiousity and found out the enclave president is a cpu so...................... -68.102.228.59 22:10, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, this is an encyclopedia after all.... [[Image:Ash_Nuke.jpg]] AshRandom (Talk)

Yeh its wiki, by its very nature it IS a spoiler. Its kinda the whole purpose of this site. To give every bit of information on the game.--Greig91 19:27, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Heroes
Is it just me, or is it absolutely fantastic that he plays the character in Heroes? I was watching downloaded episodes with my wife and I KNEW ... Eden! Fallout 3 made Heroes 100% more awesome. Jdw 02:31, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I know what you mean. I was watching Haloween and I had the same reaction..VelvetKevorkian. 10:04, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Trivia
Should there be any mention that John Henry Eden shares part of it's name with the AI that may turn into SkyNet in the Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles TV series?68.55.125.227 02:25, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * See the above section called "Naming Importance". They're both named after John Henry, a character from a folk story. So no, I wouldn't say so, unless somebody's willing to compile a list of every other fictional character based off it. --Solbur 03:09, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Morgan Freeman
Does he not sound like Morgan Freeman? I added that to trivia, shortly before someone deleted it. Does no one back me on this?--ASL93ratjar 23:39, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No, Andrew, no. Fat Man Spoon 23:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It certainly never occurred to me. Jdw 03:33, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Well then the impersonation of Freeman on Family Guy has gotten me going. "Like a twinkie...like a twinkie..." haha!--ASL93ratjar 22:07, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I thought he sounded like Kramer from Seinfeld. HuangLee 02:49, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

F***ing Windows 98
I tried to talk to him, but then the windows blue screen came up on him and I couldn't escape. I waited a full hour (in real life) until it wore off and then I could talk to him! FawkesGamer360 18:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

**Spoilers** Still Alive?
When you wake up 2 weeks after activating the purifier, the Brotherhood claims that all of Raven Rock has been destroyed and the Enclave is now very unorganized. After you complete Broken Steel and return to the Capital Wasteland, President Eden's broadcast can be heard yet again. He is looping the broadcast as if you just started the quest Take It Back! Going back over to Raven Rock, the entrance is completely caved in. Think he is still "alive"? Maybe he is and is just malfunctioning. According to President Eden he is made of thousands of computers and that would be pretty hard to completely destroy even for Liberty Prime. ReconMarine
 * This happened for me before broken steel.after i finished the american dream i got the same looped broadcast.....and i didnt bomb raven rock....CPU malfunction maybe? Werewolfhell 16:08, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

---I think I read somewhere that its just a glitch with the radio that came with the DLC.

This happened to me too but it was static during Broken Steel and then a wh

It is said that the enclave eyebots and the enclave radio are prerecorded messages from long long ago and that are constantly looping. Sentinel Lyons said that "I thought it was a very old recorded message but I'd never thought they would actually appear" Wertoret 16:36, 05 of October 2010 (GMT+1)

Similare to the "Old Man in the Cave"
The story with President Eden seems to be extremely similar to an episode of the Twilight Zone. In the episode "Old Man in the Cave" a similar situation arises; where, in the aftermath of a nuclear apocalypse, a town is kept alive by the leadership of a super computer referred to as the Old Man in the Cave. Everyone in the town, except the one man who "talks" to the Old Man, believes that the Old Man is some kind of prophet. Eventually a group of soldiers convince the towns people to revolt against the Old Man. When they break into the cave and discover the Old Man is actually a computer they destroy it. And, ultimately the people die without the computer's help.

Clinton WAS NEVER CONSIDERED
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/05/23/bethesda-we-didn039t-seek-bill-clinton-fallout-3--99.157.204.88 10:20, November 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Dead link.--Gothemasticator 08:05, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Calculator
No evidence so just putting this here, but does it feel to anyone else like this is Bethesda's Version of the Calculator The Supercomputer that wants to kill everything and remake the world, seems to be a reoccuring theme in this series--S0mbo 12:18, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Hoping for him to turn out to be human in the future
I hope we get a semi "Wizard of Oz" kind of nod eventually. The REAL Eden is somewhere else...The White House, duh, or maybe some super secret vault that had been meant for the true leaders of the world when the bombs fell. Masterdirector 12:00, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

A small dialogue mistake
In one line Eden says "FEV virus", which means "Forced Evolutionary Virus virus". Is it worth mentioning? -  J.P. | Talk  23:06, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Tautology happens. For example Americans call cash points ATM machines... Fallout: Shades of Grey, coming 2012 22:43, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

Wheres the reference for this?
"Eden made contact with the Enclave leadership on the West Coast and established himself as a Presidential Adviser. In 2242, following the death of President Dick Richardson and most of the Enclave's leadership structure during the destruction of the oil rig, Eden took control of the surviving Enclave forces on the West Coast and ordered the Enclave's relocation to Raven Rock on the East Coast, claiming to be the Enclave's new president." - On the wiki. The only reference to this event that I could find is "in the Fallout 3 Official Game Guide Game of the Year Edition p.66, under Colonel Augustus Autumn, ''"Autumn grew up on an oil rig off the California coast (the base of operations for Enclave, the secretive contingent of the United States government that survived after the apocalypse). His father was the high-ranking Enclave scientist on orders from the president to move all high-ranking officials to the only other secure Enclave location with a functioning ZAX super-computer, Raven Rock. Colonel Autumn has proven to be far less subservient than his scientist father, often openly disagreeing with the president's decisions."--Ant2242 22:34, 24 July 2012 (UTC)