Talk:Colonel Autumn's laser pistol/Archive 1

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the other version was better, this one is retarded. Great job!

Just wanted to include that if you do use the wall glitch to acquire this weapon before the final mission, you can use the ol' pickpocketing trick in place of killing Colonel Autumn or trying to shoot the gun out of his hand. Just pickpocket his energy cells (he's only packing 30), then leave the Rotunda and when you return, he's no longer equipping the laser pistol. It took 12 tries to actually pickpocket the pistol with 100 sneak skill and wearing no armor, but it is an alternative. 68.49.115.157 19:36, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

I wore my chinese stealth armor (from Operation: Anchorage DLC)if you don't have that a stealth boy works just as well. I shot the gun out of his hand with a my plasma rifle (takes two shots per weapon to destroy it) picked it up and ran. He chased me and kept picking up weapons till he ran around a corner then I engaged my stealth and I was labled as "cautious" so I left the place. I hope it helps. And also yes you get in there through a wall glitch. If you kill him it makes it the last quest so don't kill him just shot it out of his hands or pickpocket him. -user:TeslaKnight

Fully Automatic?
I have both the PC and Xbox 360 version of Fallout 3 and on PC, this pistol is fully automatic as stated, but on Xbox 360, it is semi-automatic, kind of like a really powerful laser pistol. Anyone else experience this?

yes i have before i had steel it was fully Automatic but with steel it is not (playing on xbox)Lexlexx1 09:43, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

In the Rotunda
If you enter the rotunda before starting "Take it Back" Colonel Autumn will be in the rotunda room. However he will be standing in the project purity chamber (past the airlock) and there is no way to get to him because the switch to open the airlock wont work.

I just attempted to get his laser pistol and encountered the same problem. However, upon leaving the purifier room and re-entering, he stood outside the rotunda, like in the youTube videos. Birthday Suit 00:51, 13 July 2009 (UTC) i have to

Killing him
i removed the statement about not killing the colonel...you can kill him and still finish the main quest later but if u talk to him you cant leave..maybe that's what the editor meant...either this was tested..u can kill him and complete the MQ later...70.0.50.179 00:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Alteration in Broken Steel
I'm a bit disappointed they felt the need to tone down this weapon for the Broken Steel DLC. It's essentially a lightweight Gatling Laser that uses somewhat more common ammo and has a more limited clip size; it's good, but hardly a game breaker. Wasn't a (very small) part of the appeal of continuing the game past the original ending the opportunity to actually test-drive this gun in the Wasteland? Joylock 04:40, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'd disagree that the pistol wasn't game breaking because the gatling laser's drawbacks were: 1) hard to repair, 2) weight, 3) ammo. All three drawbacks do not exist w/ this pistol.  However, I will agree that it's disappointing that they nerfed this gun to the point that it's basically not worth using.  I'd prefer if they kept the full auto feature but toned down the dmg per shot... at least then we'd have something different, not just a ramped up laser pistol.  72.235.91.236 09:01, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Agreed, a different/better laser pistol type would have been welcome as a reward for ending the original MQ considering that many of the respawning creatures such as radscorpions, ghouls, etc. are considerably buffed in the Broken Steel expansion. Perhaps Col Autumn's Pistol should have kept the rapid fire option even if it was nerfed for damage, not that another unique laser pistol was needed, I mean there are already Protectron's Gaze and Smuggler's End Laser Pistol uniques but still, being a potential MQ reward it should have at least been better than Protectron's Gaze and Smuggler's End, perhaps in reduced AP cost, increased damage at least better better damage or critical chance than Smuggler's End, increased rate of fire (if not automatic fire) in free aim and/or increased clip capacity. --Derragorn 15:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I would really like a Unique Plasma Pistol. The look and the sound of the thing are great, but the relatively low damage makes it not worth using. On the Subject of Col Autumn's Pistol, It should have kept it's full-auto ability. Fat Man Spoon 15:50, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Droping the pistol
I was wondering if if should be added to the page that you can now drop the pistol if you have Broken Steel...I think some people might not realize that since you actually finish the quest now it no longer is a quest item219.110.27.222 09:45, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Glitch with Broken Steel
I have killed Colonel Autumn and I got his lazer pistol and his uniform before I completed Take it Back because of a glitch. I don't have any of the DLC yet but I hear that if you do what I did when you have Broken Steel the game glitches up and you can't continue with Broken Steel. Is this true? I have many hours in my game and got so many unique armors and weapons. I hope I don't have to start a new game. 69.205.99.201 23:38, 26 July 2009 (UTC)UndeadNinja 7:39 July 26, 2009
 * I was able to finish Take it Back! without the game glitching up, and I had obtained Col. Aut.'s Laser Pistol earlier. //--TehK 05:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

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detailed strategies on obtaining moved from article
If you don't have the Broken Steel DLC, it is still possible to to acquire the gun


 * The most simple way to acquire the item is through console commands. Use "player.additem 000ABBE4 1"


 * An easy way to get it is to enter the rotunda before you start the assault (videos on how to do this can be found on YouTube) and shoot it out of his hand. Then pick it up and put away your weapon. He will stop attacking. You can then leave with the pistol.
 * To get to the Rotunda without Liberty Prime disabling the force field you must fast travel to Rivet City, and walk directly west until you come to the energy force fields, and there is large platform meeting one of the force fields, underneath the plate form there are a number of rocks. There is a small gap in which you can pass through by jumping onto one of the rocks and walking through, though it is quite difficult to jump on the rock it is not impossible, you must stand on a small raised bit of stone path and run and jump onto the rock, if done correctly you can pass through and kill or pickpocket Colonel Autumn for his coat and laser pistol.


 * Colonel Autumn is only in the Rotunda after you have started the Take it Back! quest. You must take the option to prepare for battle when speaking to Sarah Lyons, thus leaving her in a waiting state and not causing her to order the launch of Liberty Prime and begin the assault. You can then go to the Jefferson Memorial and find the Colonel (if you go before this, he will not be there). If you go after the assault on the Memorial, the doors lock behind you and you cannot leave, thus making it so you have to end the game and you do not get to use the pistol elsewhere. If you get it early, then you are able to have his clothing and his pistol for use out in the wastes.


 * Strangely enough, when you glitch past the force fields on the 360 and PS3 versions, you (may) find an Enclave officer who is marked red for hostile, but will not attack (or they may all be marked as friendly outside). You can talk to him. As well as several Enclave soldiers near by, dialogue is limited though and you're only given option is to say goodbye to them. However those inside the building will attack on sight.


 * It is possible to acquire the weapon with out killing Colonel Autumn as well. Use a stealth boy to enter the Jefferson Memorial. Make sure you have at least 3 on you. Creep all the way into the Rotunda, making sure to stay hidden. Enter the Rotunda. Make sure your stealth boy is still working. Use any weapon and in the V.A.T.S. fire at the Colonel's laser. It will drop to the ground. Here's the tricky part. Pick up the weapon and find a column close to the Colonel's original position where you can hide. He will fire with an Assault rifle. Make sure you remain in stealth boy mode - refresh if needed. The "danger" will remain, as long as you are not in a shadow, then it will change to "caution" and eventually back to "hidden". Once "hidden", keep an eye on the Colonel and make sure he resumes his initial position.


 * It is important to NOT talk to Autumn or else the last part of the quest will be triggered and you cannot leave the memorial.


 * If you have the Broken Steel DLC, the game will no longer end after the events of Take it Back, allowing the player to take the weapon from Autumn by simply killing him and continuing the game.
 * You can also use a plasma or laser weapon, pistol or rifle only though, and score a critical hit on Autumn thus reducing him to a goo pile or ash pile respectively. You may need to save though if your luck is very low or you do not have perks that make it easier to get criticals, such as Finesse. It is also easier to get the critical if you go in VATS.

--Kingclyde 00:43, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Paging Nittpicker...
Why remove the thing about the laser pistol weighing zero pounds?I tested it with my previous character.Picked it up at a weight of 282 and it stayed at 282 afterword.I know it says two pounds,but it's zero.Period. HuangLee 21:53, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Because it's a damn quest item. It only weighs two pounds after you complete Take It Back. And before, it weighs 0. Period. Nitty 21:55, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Gotcha.Period. HuangLee 21:56, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

You also can't drop it, can't remove it, and can only use more Laser Pistols to repair it. No merchants. Nitty 21:59, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

...Period. HuangLee 22:00, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

BAD HUANGLEE! Spoon Leave me a freakin' message 22:01, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

PERIOD!PERIOD!PERIOD!PERIOD!HA!HA!HA!HA!PLATYPI! HuangLee 22:03, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

*smacks with newpaper* Bad HuangLee! Get outside! Spoon Leave me a freakin' message 22:08, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

(whimpers) HuangLee 22:09, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm... is this why my game freezes up???
well i have broken steel installed BEFORE i went to that one vault to get to dad,and i went along with the main quest chain before the 2 weeks later... thing and i got coloel autumn's laser pistol and when i have to go to do the 1st quest where i meet up with paliden tristan, i cant go there! my game freezes up when i fast traveled to the place near lucky's and i follow my quest marker and my game freezes up. is it beacause i got coloel autumn's laser pistol by killing him???? help please and tell me how to fix it!--Dremora archer 18:14, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Bypassing The Laser Wall Method #1
If you use the method of jumping onto the rock and walking behind the wall, you dont need to jump many times and try to jump to just the right place. If you jump onto the rock there is a spot on it that allows you to walk higher onto the rock. You can also walk under the catwalk instead of going behind the laser wall.

I don't know if it was a layering glitch. But I was heading from Dukov's place to rivet city, and went across the bridge. There was no forecefield. I just walked right in and killed colonel autumn, took his stuff, and walked out. But I tried on another save file, and it had the same effect. Anyone else have this happen to them? Kale Nekona 01:55, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

Getting both pistol versions while already having Broken Steel added?
So i've snuck into the rotunda and have stolen the laser before doing take it back. I also gave him a plasma rifle and tesla armor so i could get the coat as well. Anyways ive tested out the laser pistol and it seems to not be automatic. Can anyone confirm that attempting to get both versions with Broken Steel already installed is impossible. I'm wondering whether or not he will appear with his coat and pistol again once i do Take It Back. --FLaSHBaCK HaSH 21:29, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * That is correct, the pistol is permanently changed post-BS. Nitty Tok. 21:32, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Well crap, is there any hope that i may be able to procure a third colonel autumn uniform and a second pistol since i left him alive and kicking and will meet him again in Take It Back?--FLaSHBaCK HaSH 21:38, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Still full auto even with Broken Steel
So I killed Colonel Autumn during ''Take it Back! ''and took his pistol. It's fully automatic, even in Broken Steel---I've already completed the main questline and am currently completing Point Lookout, and my Col. Autumn's Laser Pistol is full-auto.

I hold the mouse button down, it fires continuously very fast. It doesn't fire like a normal laser pistol at all.

I don't know about you guys, but when i entered the memorial it wouldn't let me leave, and no i didn't trigger prime. The main exit said that it was blocked from the other side and the manhole was locked again, any ideas?

Solving the freze
My fallout (xbox360) seems to fix if i do 1 to 3 different quests, or the same quest in a different order (multipul choice quests).90.209.96.10 08:26, October 7, 2010 (UTC)