Forum:Rich Text Editor

Voting closed; RTE removed
I went looking on the main Wikia site's forums for how to disable the Rich Text Editor for the whole wiki; it's my personal belief that it causes too many problems. I found this forum post which provides an answer. Basically, we would need to contact them to request it. So, I'd like to put it to a vote and see if this is something we'd like to do.

Before voting, try both the Rich Text Editor and the standard editor (which I think is called the Wikitext editor) so that you can make an informed decision.

Should we ask to have the Rich Text Editor disabled on The Vault?

 * Yes --
 * Yes Nitty Tok.
 * Yes I hate that thing.--Gothemasticator 01:40, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes yes and dangit yes Hate it hate it hate it. -bleep196- 01:58, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes They shouldn't have activated it in the first place. Anon undefined
 * Yes Tezzla CannonUser Tezzla Dog.jpg 18:57, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes — Game widow 20:46, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes Please please do. Nukey (talk) 01:00, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes Billytheboy
 * Yes Jovar1
 * Yes NukaQuantum
 * Yes Apocalyptic Anomoly
 * Yes just to help the other ppl. I really dont have a problem with it. Deus 03:11, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes Revolverman Even though I suck with wikicode.
 * Yes Please freaking do. --Volundarkvioa 03:25, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes RTF makes it difficult for anons to make constructive edits. Big McLargeHuge 04:24, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes I turned off RTE two days after it was activated! Vault 815 04:42, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes hate it! Matt of the wastes
 * Yes Hell yes. As Glob put it; "I hate that fucking thing." CRIMINAL SCUM 09:54, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * No Leave it on, it's awesome. TestECull
 * Yes Supermonday
 * Yes Please!Shadow 12:34, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes Get rid of it, it only makes more problems.--Mr.Lexx(talk) 13:57, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes Yes, please! - Masana82
 * Yes Yep. I had some problems with WYSIWYG. Using only code mode. User:Bdeimos
 * Yes Rich text = bad times guys Mr Habberdasher 15:56, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes Shadowrunner56
 * Yes Do it. I command you! 19:27, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes Dante Aligheri
 * Yes The RTE has a mind of its own - and it's not very bright. Ribbity104 20:49, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes Fallout Zero It's...for the best
 * Yes Fall-Over ah why not
 * Yes YawningTeenager YawningTeenager 23:04, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes User:Alexandersig What's the score, 30-1? I'm pretty sure the people have spoken.
 * Yes Kalalokki
 * Agent c (I don't mind, but helping to boost the overall vote numbers)
 * Yes The14th 02:57, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes The14th 02:57, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Anon votes

 * Yes I prefer the, what I think of as the normal editor. The RTE is more inviting to those new to wiki formatting, but, in my opinion, and I am a programmer, the Wikitext editor or whatever it is is easier to use. -- 24.0.3.226 23:13, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes A thousand times yes. Mobile is hell. 216.23.123.58 04:07, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes Oh ya

Comments and questions
The RTE will make edits to parts of a page that the user does not intend to touch. It's also the default for unregistered contributors and I'm not sure if they can change it. It hides comments unless you actively go looking for them, and those comments are important to be read while editing. -- 21:47, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * I do have a question about this; what stops them from adding it right back in with the new skin 'upgrade'? Nitty Tok. 01:42, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hopefully the fact that they'd just have to remove it again immediately when we complained about it :D -- 01:56, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't get what the big deal is about this. It works fine for me. TestECull

Verdict
The vote is unanimous among those voting. I'll get the ball rolling right now. -- 01:03, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

I got a reply:
 * Hello Kris,


 * We do indeed discuss turning off the RTE on a case-by-case basis, but getting

just six votes on such a large community as the Vault does not adequately constitute community agreement. Push more people to read the thread and post their agreement/disagreement and we will look back into it.

The poll has been reopened; I've set the time to 180 days but we can end it earlier with enough votes. Please urge everyone to vote! -- 00:58, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, then the forum should be linked to on the top bar. Nitty Tok. 01:05, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I left a message for Ausir about that, though I didn't know what to call that bar so I asked if there was anything he could do lol -- 01:07, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just edit this this. --Anon undefined 02:16, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks! -- 03:01, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

A Message From Wikia Staff
Hello,

We received email from your admins a few days ago about this thread. Seeing enough community support, we have gone ahead and disabled RTE editing on your wiki as you requested. While we have done so, we would definitely like to hear your feedback about what was specifically wrong with the Rich Text Editor on The Vault so we can make improvements to the RTE for all of Wikia. We understand that the Rich Text Editor is not perfect (but it's current iteration we are very proud of) and we also have a personal preferences page for each user so that they can turn it off should they find the RTE not for them.

In response to an earlier question, I can not say for sure what the future of the RTE on every wiki will be when we switch over to the new look - we are looking at the two matters separately but obviously we are definitely thinking about the overall future of Wikia and how we want editors to feel at their wikis. While we respect the community wishes, our aim is to improve the RTE to an editing system as flawless as your basic wikitext editor and at that point I imagine we would like to let every editor make a decision for him or herself.

Also, thank you to this community for taking the time to create a discussion about this matter. It's good to see the Forum and Polls system working quite well here. Best regards, --daNASCAT (Help Forum) (blog) 04:37, September 18, 2010 (UTC)