Talk:T-51b power armor/Archive 1

General
They not only can't make new models - they are unable to make new copies of T-51b as well. Ausir 12:49, 26 Oct 2005 (CEST)

Does anyone know if there are any random or set spawn NPC's with it equipped? J.J.-Lopez
 * Couldn't find any in the games resource files

It says the Fallout 3 version gives +1 Chr but I did not see it in the specs to the right, can someone who knows how it should be fix this? 83.60.27.70 02:36, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The body armor does not give you the bonus, the helmet does (and it has a separate infobox below the one for the armor). Ausir 02:39, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

The article description says it would reflect lasers etc, does it actually do this in the game?


 * It does in Fallout 1 and 2 (80% DR against lasers), as well as within the setting's lore. Unfortunately, in Fallout 3 the armor stats were very much simplified, and separate damage resistance for each type of damage (as well as damage threshold) was removed. Ausir 03:48, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

acquiring it: the article states that the winterized t51-b cannot be retrieved if you leave after operation anchorage DLC, so bring along a companion to help carry. playing on pc, i know for a fact that when i had fawkes as my companion, he could not enter the bunker via the lift for operation anchorage, and had to wait near the top. there are also reports of followers disappearing or follower death after exiting the sim bunker, although thats for another topic. secondly, i have myself had to leave the sim bunker without several reward items but managed to return and collect the rest no worries - however the outcasts became hostile for whatever reason on my return and i had to kill them inside the bunker's safe. thus i think that advice should be removed.81.141.88.140 03:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Repair
You can actually repair the T-51b Power Armor with the Prototype Medic Power Armor --Nuke Lukem 10:28, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Really? I have tried to but this has not yet worked for me. meybe glitch of is it like that for all xbox versions? can anyone confirm? J.J.-Lopez

I just entered the R&D room today and when I deactivated the stasis field, only the T-51b power armor was there. There was no T-51b power helmet. I've heard on other sections of this site that there is a helmet that is supposed to be found with the T-51b armor. This is not so. Was my experience a glitch? - [Sambo526] 12:58, 25 November 2008
 * Same problem on the PS3 - no helmet, just the body armour. Even reloading an earlier savegame didnt resolve this. I looked in all the corners, hovered my pointer everywhere just in case, I returned several times but the helmet is NOT in the stasis field or anywhere else in the room, however, going back through to the start of the command outpost and replaying, as well as activating the ICBM launch sequence seemed to resolve the issue and the helmet was where is should be on that playthrough [anonymous], 05:50 10 may 2009.

Yes, that is indeed a glitch, the power armor and power helmet are supposed to be in the same stasis field. [anonymous], 21:06, 25 november 2008

I had the same glitch except I found the helmet outside the stasis field I found the helmet on the floor near the door

I've encountered a similar glitch/bug with the T-51b helmet: After giving the entire suit to Charon, the helmet has since disappeared. He still appears to be wearing it in-game but it's no longer listed in his inventory. Having him equip another helmet does not solve the problem. mcgonagul 9 December 2008

The reason you can repair normal power armor with the T-51b is because it's on the RepairPowerArmor list. The reason you can't repair it, is because it isn't set to use that list. It isn't a glitch that you can't repair it (though it definately is a glitch if you managed to repair it with the PMPA, because like I said, T-51b doesn't have a repair list), though it could be an oversight (unlikely, but possible)Fiddlesoup 04:02, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

My brother has given me his 360 so I can get him all the great stuff I have on my 360. He has Operation Anchorage and i don't, but i love wearing his Winterized T-51b Power Armor. But no matter what i do i cannot get it in a lower CND than 100%, I mean it WONT DEGRADE! It is the best! i wanna know if this is normal or a simple glitch please help me! By:Spinelli74 on XBox Live

What's the word on whether the T-51b can be repaired with normal Power Armor now, since the Winterized T-51b can?--Niksilp 04:18, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I suggest someone creates a new article on the Fallout 3 T-51b Power Armor. No. That Furry Bastard 15:50, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Terminal: Medical Armor Prototype
I'm pretty sure the T-51b Power Armor is an advancement on the Medic Power armor. I can't remember my source, but anyone willing to do some digging will find that the terminal is not an oversight.
 * No. It's not. Shaur M. S. Grizlin 22:29, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

I've found a full set in perfect condition on Mr. Crowley in the Underworld. I don't know if thats a glitch but someone might wanna confirm. I was level 20 at the time
 * He uses the keys you "retrieved" for him to get the armor. Paul (Evil) 11:29, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I kind of thought of it as a joke. Maybe that was where the medic armor was supposed to be, but some sneaky soldier stole the armor and replaced it with his own, ordinary T-51b Power Armor, and then ran off with it (Perhaps the lethal medicine was released when the scientists realized the armor had been stolen, explaining the guy's death in the sewers).

I assumed the deathclaws got him.
 * Eh, the armor would've been destroyed. Deathclaws would've eaten the guy, ripped his armor to pieces.

Actually, the GECK designates "You Gotta Shoot 'Em In The Head" as "MS14" (and that quest's scripts used Editor IDs with "MS14"). The Prototype Medic Power Armor is listed as "MS14PowerArmorMorphine", and all the references used by the PMPA (such as the script for injecting Med-X) have "MS14" in their Editor ID. This suggests that the PMPA was supposed to be found in Fort Constantine at some point. Whether it was intentionally changed and forgotten, or if they were misplaced, I don't know...Fiddlesoup 03:58, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

NPC Repair
Who has the highest repair skill? After, hat guy in the underworld you give scrap metal to repaired it, maxed condition tesla armor was still better.

Invest in Crow, the traveling armour merchant, by paying 700 caps to Uncle Roe in Canterbury Commons. I think this raises Crow's repair skill to 70 or something, which is more or less the highest.

NOTE: This may or may not work, but you could try reverse-pickpocketing him some mentats to see if he uses them, which would increase his repair skill by ten or so >_>

Hope this helps, anyway.--Solbur 22:57, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

The best one is the junk guy, Wolfgang, his Repair skill gets up super high once you invest in him. Best in the game (that I'm aware of).Fiddlesoup 03:59, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


 * There's a chart of repair skills and percents on the Caravan Merchants page. Wolfgang has the highest skill, letting him repair things to 85% after investment. [[Image:Ash_Nuke.jpg]] AshRandom (Talk) 21:30, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Survival Odds?
So... if Mister Crowley is left to retrieve the armor itself, what are the percent odds that he'll actually make it back with the thing versus perishing in the desert, he and the keys never to be seen again.

Theres a 20% chance that mister crowley will return Werewolfhell 15:34, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

So in my case he has been away for about 3-4 weeks (gameplay time) so I'm assuming he is dead, but I don't know whether his body is somewhere along the way to there and if it's still on the floor, can someone give me an idea of where his corpse could be?

As far as I know he shows up as a random encounterAryeonos 01:28, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

What did happen to the Capital Wasteland Brotherhood T-51b Armor?
[[Media:]] I have been wondering, what did the Brotherhood do with all their T-51b. They simply didn't just throw it away.

Over time as they wore down they needed repair and as you know u cant repair the T-51b so they broke thier old suits down to repair the T-45d they now wearGodPlageon 05:20, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Invisible Display.
Im getting a slight glitch which hasnt been mentioned as of yet.. it so happens when i put my T-51B Power armour down from my inventory to view it as a Display piece in my megaton home it bugs out and go's invisible Along with the Helmet.. Curiously you can still collect it back into your inventory none the less. TheRepublicOfDave 09:49, 10 February 2009 (UTC) Same problem  This can happen with any piece of clothing, I wouldn't worry about Just keep it in a container so you don't lose track of it. At least until you reach around 150 hours of gameplay and everything in your house resets which in that case you should leave it there to be fully repaired.Aryeonos 00:24, September 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * 150+ hours, you say? Is there any confirmation of this? Ronin 00:32, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Tutorial (Highest pepair for your Armor)
This is to answer all the questions on maintaining and keeping your T-51b Power Armor in its best condition. Firstly, go to Canterbury Commons and start and finish the quest The Superhuman Gambit. After you have finished, Talk to Uncle Joe and pick the dialogue 'What can you tell me about Canterbury Commons?' Then pick 'How organized are the traders?' Invest twice in Crazy Wolfgang. (700 caps total) Now he can repair your items to 85%. Go to Rivet City. Buy a Red Racer Jumpsuit or RobCo Jumpsuit from Bannon. Travel back to Canterbury Commons and walk out by the tree where the Traders gather. If Crazy Wolfgang isn't there, use the Wait ability and wait for 1-2 hours, and keeping doing so, until he spawns. Get Crazy Wolfgang to repair your RobCo Jumpsuit or Red Racer Jumpsuit then save your game. (This is so the armors CND is over 75%) Pickpocket him, and give him the armor (You will lose Karma). Next time you see Crazy Wolfgang he will be wearing the armor and he can now repair all your items to 88%. The highest possible. 123.211.101.161 05:04, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Does 88% increase damage resistance? ````

Buy Point Lookout, visit haley like 20 times, he now has 100 repair...yay!GodPlageon 04:59, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Maximum Sustainable DR
Since you can only repair it via merchants, and the highest merchant repair is 88%, what is the armor's DR value at 88%? PositronicSpleen 20:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

It can give 46-47 Damage resistance, makes it the strongest in the game. Crimson Knight 21:20, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Does that include the helmet????68.192.9.90 03:05, September 12, 2009 (UTC)ASDF

Other than the new hellfire armor obtained via Broken Steel DLC.--ASL93ratjar 22:40, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

WHich can be repaired and will become common at REAl high levels (i rarely see normals soldiers now that im capped at 30,its just tesla soldiers and hellfire soldiers) Werewolfhell 17:17, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks to haley in point lookout it can be 100% again!GodPlageon 09:08, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

He did make it back for me. How do I get the armor now?

Er... you gotta shoot him in the head. Nitty 01:22, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

T-51b at 85% CND w/ helmet has a total of 54 DR. Combine this with Toughness, Cyborg, Barkskin, and Survival Expert (Tough) to get 85 DR

68.192.9.90 03:35, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Linden's Armour?
"Linden's Outcast Power Armor, obtainable from Oasis, can be used to repair the T-51b."

Is this actually true? I mean, I can actually wear my real T-51b and not worry about repair for once? Wanderer Lao 05:16, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Not according to the G.E.C.K., the T51b hasn't got a repair list, which means even if you used the console to get a second set you couldn't even repair it with your second T51b.

T51b / Prototype Medic Power Armor Mix-up
The T51b and the Prototype Medic Power Armor are definitely mixed up. The prototype armor is called MS14PowerArmorMorphine in the G.E.C.K. and MS14 is the ID for "You Gotta Shoot Em in the Head!".

T-51B now repairable
ok so with the new Haley repair glitch, this armor can now be fully repaired back to 100%! this is great, i just wanted to get this out there for people who havent thought about it. - mat mod.

Why is it called T-51b?
What do the T, the 51, and the b stand for anyway?
 * Not known. It might stand for "Tank, model 51, version B". http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/5/5c/Scribe.jpg/15px-Scribe.jpg Tagaziel (call!) 07:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

um D.C BOS have only 1?
why is this...did they only get given one before they got cut off? or what? Owyn must be pretty rilled up for only having one...well not even that...the Lone Wander has it...soo...he just goes into the Fort Contatine and picks it up walks up to Owyn 'Hey'....the nerve...it'd be cool tho if you could turn in tech to them as well Onikage01 20:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC) (sorry for rambling)


 * Wakarimasen! Ronin 21:21, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

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Awesomeness
Well i have this awesome armor but dont use it becauz of d repairing problem.Hey anyone know when the DlC's for PS3 version gonna come out....Plz reply

Really GOOD ARMOR
I guess this armor is great and POWERFUL and My favorite armor(but dont use it because No,And I mean No,Quest IS SO DANGEROUS to force me to use this Cool and Powerful Armor).....

Followers/Companions
Followers/companions such as Charon, Jericho, Clover, etc. don't have the equipment you give them degrade at all with use. Personally, I never want to use this armor because of the fact that it cannot be repaired. So, I gave it to Charon. He's wearing it now, and it shouldn't degrade any from his using it. So, I still get some use out of the armor without having to worry about it degrading. I just thought I'd put that in here for those who haven't already considered this. --98.180.4.125 20:33, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

My Thoughts about the armor
This armor is probably THE BEST RARE HARD TO MAINTAIN ARMOR evah... So does anyone agree that Bethesda should have put a way to harden the T-51b in fallout 3..

Anyone Agree?

Mod?
Has anyone made a mod that allows it to be repairable? If not, then someone should, considering being stuck between Invincible armor and almost impossible to repair armor just sucks. I'd rather have the BEST armor that can be repaired rather than something that makes you too powerful and ruins the game.--Master of cheeZ 23:50, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

There's about a dozen mods that fix the Winter T-51B, but I think that not being able to repair it yourself is a good thing. Nitty Tok. 23:55, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Winter T-51b Always max condition!
I have Fallout3 for both Xbox 360 and Ps3 and have the DLC Operation Anchorage for both too. Also on both the Winterized t-51b power armor is always at max condtion. I have played the game for like 3 months (Game time) Wearing in on both Xbox 360 and Ps3 and on both the condtion hasnt gone down. Is this a odd glitch coincidence or suppose to happen?
 * Yes, the developers put the wrong variant in-game and the T-51b your wearing has 10 mil health, and the helmet has 1 mil. - RASICTalk 22:42, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Broken Steel - Kill Purpose?
Due to the Hellfire Armor which also gives a bonus of 50 to your DR sort of makes this armor useless for your own use. Since this armor can be repaired unlike the T-51b. Of course I do like the Winter version because it has alot of HP, but doesn't its "Value" degrade as well. And more on the Hellfire note. Doesn't it, unlike the T51-b give, you better upgrades without any penalties.

Cheap way to fix T51-b
I have not been able to test this so please help out if you get the chance, but i was told that taking the armor back to the stasis field that it came from, and replacing it in there. it will infact restore the armor to full CND. Please let us know if you find out this is true..69.171.163.86 11:34, April 23, 2010 (UTC)Losarot
 * It's not true. Nitty Tok. 12:14, April 23, 2010 (UTC)