Talk:Rapid-torch flamer

Vandalism?
Is some dickhead deleting the info on this page along with the slo-burn page? About five minutes ago there was far more info on both of them, now its useless.--92.9.32.94 14:04, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you maybe looking at an outdated revision? The page hasn't been changed for 2 hours. -- Porter21 (talk) 14:15, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Aye maybe. I think some of the links may have been messed up. Because i clicked on it at the bottom of one page and it was all good, but then when i clicked on it at the bottom of another article there was only one line of text to the whole thing.--92.9.32.94 20:46, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Quick or rapid
I see both in the page, and earlier the broken steel page had two seperate links for both. —Preceding. Please sign your posts with ~ !
 * Well, I have a localized version so I can't help with the name as the translation fits both - however, there is definitely only one such flamer, not two (BS adds 2 unique flamers in total - this one and the Slo-Burn Flamer). -- Porter21 (talk) 15:19, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Difference between Rapid-Torch and regular Flamer?
Has anyone noticed a difference? They seem identical to me besides the name. Just curious.--92.9.32.94 20:48, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

No, I opened the Geck with Brokensteel.esm loaded and nothing else, there's NO difference between the flamer and the Rapid-Torch. --MeanOlBob 03:02, 15 July 2009 (UTC) It's possible it's rate of fire was meant to be higher. --MeanOlBob 03:02, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * But isn't the critical multiplier 4 vs. 1? Coodude26 03:10, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

That's what I thought, but I checked the flamer in the GECK and it also showed an x4 crit multiplier --MeanOlBob 05:47, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Both regular flamer, as well as all special versions have x4 crit multiplier. P22 12:10, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

What is actually different with this flamer compared to basic one is attack animation (checked in GECK). Exempt that, everything else is 100% same as with regular Flamer. The difference in animation has actual in game impact, although minor. With Rapid-Torch Flamer it's enough to quickly tap with mouse (or button on consoles) and you'll fire your flamer. With regular one, there is slight delay before fire gets out, so in order to just expend 1 point of ammo you need to hold a button just a little bit (but not that long to expend two ammo points). Anyway, with Rapid-Torch you can conserve ammo a bit better then with regular Flamer. P22 12:10, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to add that to the main page. Nitty 23:01, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Speciality?
What exactly makes this flamer special?--KieranBOS 13:44, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

The critical multiplier is 4 times larger. Other than that there isn't much of a difference.--173.25.42.122 14:06, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but a crit multiplier of 4 is nothing to scoff at. In fact, w/ the right perks you can get up to 18% crit (10 luck, 3 from survival guru, 5 from finesse)... so multiply that by 4 and you get 72% crit. Combine this w/ better criticals and you'll burn through enemies before you can blink an eye. 72.235.91.236 10:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I actually don't, I tried it at a lone super mutant overlord and it critted, but at a very slow rate. And yes I do have 18% (actually 17 but in a sec I'll have 18) 62.163.88.139 17:51, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Infobox vs comparison table
In the comparison table that appears on every page dealing with F3 Flamer variants, the stats in the boxes for Crit % Mult and Crit dmg for Rapid-Torch seem to be mixed up. The table says Crit % Mult = 1 and Crit dmg = 0.5 (which is opposite of every other flamer) while the infobox says Crit % mult = x0.5 and Crit dmg = 1. Either the comparison boxes are wrong or the infobox for the Rapid-Torch is wrong. 97.73.64.151 22:37, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * The article here is wrong, so all of the comparisons are wrong. Crit mult is .5, damage is 1. Nitty Tok. 22:40, May 14, 2010 (UTC)