Talk:Ultracite power armor

Citation needed!
The reference to Ultracite Power armor as the single most powerful power armor has a few issues.

For one, Im not sure if it's backed up in direct lore, if it is, that needs citation! If we are going by stats, it's a bit more complicated. In 76, X-01 outranks it in energy and radiation resistance. In context of the whole series. We can probably safely assume the Enclave APA models have the same or higher stats than the X-01 And Hellfire in Fallout 3 certainly has higher stats than the APA MK 1 and 2. Thus Hellfire probably remains at the top.


 * While it is quite powerful, it's... weird. To go point by point, the entire citation is essentially based of a single terminal entry up in Fort Defiance, which backs up none of the claims held by the actual article. To go off the game guide for 76, it describes it as such:

"While the Ultracite set of Power Armor may be the last available on the list, that doesn’t mean you can abandon every other set. The X-01 suit handles Energy-based damage much better than this one, but you can expect better physical Damage Resistance from this suit than any other. The question on your mind might be, “Which one do I bring to a Fissure Site? Ultracite or X-01?” The truth is, it depends on what’s giving you the hardest time. Scorchbeasts use Energy attacks almost exclusively, while the Scorched that surround it will attack you with physical damage attacks. If you find that Scorchbeasts are roughing you up the most, then consider the X-01, but Ultracite will work just fine in all other situations." The ironic thing about it is that, with a fully-upgraded T-51, it single-handedly provides the most out of all 3, making T-51 the most powerful PA in 76, but that's semantics for all things considered. To actually answer the question, we can safely consider it and X-01 equal to each other, sort of as a risk/reward situational kind of thing. As for the context of the whole series, we'll simply have to see how Hellfire is handled when someone finally gets their hands on what might possibly be it in Nuclear Winter. But for now, I'll try and change it to clarify what it means. Ss2077 (talk) 23:43, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The problem in general is that there's a lore/gameplay disconnect. The Marine armor, for instance, is referred to as the most protective armor short of PA, but it's actually mediocre in terms of protection (check Fallout 76 apparel for details). The reference to the Ultracite power armor being the most powerful is based on the context: If it was inferior to the T-51, there would be no point in Takano or Grant bothering with the design, as they have the T-51s available widely.
 * As for the Hellfire, it's just a power armor skin, not a distinctly separate suit. Same as the Black Rider etc. Tagaziel (talk) 06:40, 23 June 2019 (UTC)