Talk:La Longue Carabine/Archive 1

Actually, I'm pretty sure that "La Longue Carabine" actually translates to "The Long Carbine", since the french word for "rifle" is "fusile" while "carbine" becomes "carabine". --85.3.121.126 13:02, October 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Unless you're a native French speaker, we'll go with what Google Translate says, which is "The Long Rifle". -- 14:18, October 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * I am a native French speaker. In French, except in technical military parlance, a "carabine" is a rifle. A "fusil" is an unrifled (i.e. smoothbore) gun. A 12 gauge shotgun is called a "fusil calibre 12". We use "carabine" for both long rifles and shortened "cavalry" rifles. "La longue carabine", as used in the last of the Mohicans, is actually a musket-length weapon. (Longrifle is actually the name of the rifled musket used in early America). I think the google translation was correct and it should be "the long rifle" in English. Also, a long carbine is somewhat contradictory. 70.80.143.89 06:46, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Given that a carbine is, for all intents and purposes, a shortened rifle, I think we should change it to "The Long Carbine." Google translate could have simply gone La=The, Longue=Long, Carabine=Carbine-->Rifle.

Obtaining?
Has anyone been able to successfully reverse-pickpocket Corporal Sterling to obtain this weapon? If so, what weapon did you replace it with?


 * I have done it, and you don't need to replace it with anything per se, if you just remove the ammo it will be in his inventory. And despite what someone has said, he doesn't catch you every time. I had to try 20 times, with stealth boy, to pickpocket it away, but I did eventually get it. If you want to be nice you can give him another lever action like a trail carbine or a brush gun. I gave him a trail carbine with scope- even though NPCs don't use mods, it just felt weird to take away his scoped repeater and give him an unscoped one. Also, note that the rest of first recon that has hunting rifles have no scopes either- remember, NPCs don't use mods. Bitter Root has a sniper rifle though.--Resplendant Securitron 22:53, October 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I did it!!, I was wearing a Wasteland Wanderer Outfit, a Hockey Mask and in weapons I only had nothing but a ballistic fist and a cowboy repeater. Though, I have a sneak of 100 and a used a stealthboy. Got his ammo first then enter to a jail next to the group, got out, and pickpocket it from him. I didn't reverse pickpocket the cowboy repeater I had for him, or anything, just took it after waiting till my stealthboy wear out (in a fraction of second, luck of course, I pushed the X button just when the sound of the stealthboy wearing of started). Note that they were all at Camp Forlon Hope. I did the first part (pickpocket the ammo) something like 10-12 times, then saved, then ffor the part of the rifle itself, it took me something like 22-24 times (I count them). just reload and reload a saved game...
 * I haven't managed to do this without Stealth Boy though (my sneak isn't 100). If you don't want to reverse pickpocket him, the other way to be 'nice' and give him another weapon is during the Driver Nephi part of the Three Card Bounty quest. Just drop a weapon next to him and he will pick it up once you lure fiends to where he is.

You can also damage the weapon while it's on Sterlings back until it doesn't have any value any more. I did that and I got the weapon in one go (no hostility or karma loss).

Mysteriously obtained weapon?
So, I was just walking along the road near where the Mysterious Stranger's son is (The guy with the Mysterious Revolver) and I heard some gunshots, so I walk to where i hear them coming from and I see Betsy, and a few other 1st recon guys walking, they were fighting some carazons and radscorpions, Sterling dead on the ground. Looted him and the gun was there, no negative karma, no rangers attacking.


 * If you finished 3 card bounty, 1st recon gets deployed to Camp Forlorn hope. They probably got jumped by the bugs along the way and poor old Sterling didn't make it. At least he died a Hero, right?--Resplendant Securitron 22:55, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Repair problem
I am not able to repair the weapon using cowboy repeaters. Is it due to my low repair skill ability (65) or do I need to have the jury rigging perk to do so? Additionaly I couldn't help but to notice the discussion about the name translation. Well, being a native french, I can assure you it should be The long Carbine. 89.159.249.208 07:59, November 19, 2010 (UTC) Elitios 89.159.249.208 07:59, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Repair skill in New Vegas does not work in the same fashion as in Fallout 3. It effects how much item hp will be increased by an individual repair, rather than effecting the maximum condition an item can be repaired to. I've never personally bothered to obtain this weapon, but it cannot be lack of repair skill that is causing this issue. However, getting the Jury Rigging perk would allow you to repair it with a very wide array of weapons.Rhomb 09:08, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Camp Forlorn hope
Really, if your sneak skill is anywhere below 60-70, pickpocket this gun from him before you do 3 card bounty, otherwise, it'll take a bloody long time to get the gun when/ if he reaches forlorn hope. It took me 10mins to get the ammo, and i never got the gun without hostile action, i had a stealth boy and 55 sneak. So instead i gave up and put a grenade in his pants and he died. Luckily, there was no rep loss only karma loss and the whole squad got crippled. took me around 40mins to get the gun.--Adam Sizzler 10:24, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

It is easier to steal it from Camp Forlorn Hope than Camp McCarren
Because the whole 1st Recon will become stationary at Camp Forlorn Hope, you don't need to wait Sterling running around and Camp Forlorn Hope has MANY barrels which you can grab and place them around the whole group, forming a "Temporary Cover" for stealing stuffs. It is much easier to steal the rifle and their 1st recon berets from Canp Forloen Hope. It just cause me around 10 mins to steal their berets and the rifle. I don't even need stealth boy and I only got 70 sneak.