User talk:80.101.105.145

Speculation
We don't cover speculation in our articles here at The Vault. The placement of skeletons and other clutter throughout the game is a part of its atmospheric charm. However, it is there to let the individual players' imagination go wild. Our articles are for verifiable information concerning the game and its contents. We leave the speculation up to each gamer's gaming experience. Feel free to post your thoughts in our forums. Cheers.--Gothemasticator 16:07, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

What I'm posting is verifiable information.

Steve Armstrong
Same reasoning and Vault editing standards as above apply to Steve Armstrong's page and all other article pages. Please refrain from posting such speculation. Thank you.--Gothemasticator 16:13, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

What I'm posting is verifiable information.
 * No, it's speculatiion. The verifiable information is that the skeletons and whatnot exist. But, we don't normally count clutter as notable in articles. The devs left the backstories of nearly all the skeletons open to interpretation, and so do we.--Gothemasticator 16:19, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, what I'm posting are only verifiable facts.

In the box directly above are direct quotes from your additions to the Alfa Lima page. I have bolded many words and phrases to point out where you speculate. I don't say your speculations are unreasonable or not well thought-out. But they remain speculation, and, as already explained, we don't cover that here.--Gothemasticator 17:10, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * The like-a-hood are also veriable facts. All the info I'm giving is based on facts. If you want I make a seperate box for this saying that some people might not agree.
 * We seem to be having a misunderstanding about the meaning of the words facts and speculation. Likelihoods are not facts. Reasonable guesses are not facts. Things which may be or may not be are not facts. Things we do not know but only suppose are not facts.


 * Speculation is making guesses about what we don't know based on what we do know. Speculation is reasoning from facts toward theories. Speculation is fun and interesting and useful. But speculation is not something we include in articles.


 * Now, I've been patient with this discussion, because you have been so civil. Thank you for that. However, this discussion, as far as I'm concerned, is over. I have explained the situation clearly and in several ways. If you wish to continue your argument, you will have to do it with someone else. I suggest one of our active administrators.


 * In the meantime, if you persist in adding speculation to articles, you will be blocked. I hope you continue to be reasonable.--Gothemasticator 18:09, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Let me make one thing clear at first. This is my talk page. I can post here about everything I want. I can continue the argument if I wish to.


 * "Speculation is making guesses about what we don't know based on what we do know." Exactly. So once again: 'All the info I'm giving is based on facts'. I've even offered you to make a sperate box for it, that will hurt nobody.


 * I'm sorry that you refuse to listen, and I'm sorry that I have to wish you good luck hunting any further form of speculation. It's all over the wiki.