Talk:Desert Eagle .44

Of all the "classic" guns that were included in FO3 and NV from the original games, such as the 10mm pistol and SMG, the Sniper Rifle, 14mm SIG-Sauer (changed to 12.7mm) etc. one gun that was not included in either that was in every single game EXCEPT the newest was the Desert Eagle. With New Vegas having a plethora of ammunition types, not only can the Desert Eagle be included easily, but it can be included with every major caliber in which it is available in real life. For example, a .357 Magnum Desert Eagle could be included with a flat gray finish with 9-round capacity, just like it's real world counterpart. The Desert Eagle .44 with 8-round capacity could be a two-tone model, with gray frame and barrel with black slide, or something similar. With the SIG-Sauer 14mm being changed to 12.7mm (which is a half inch, or .50 caliber) a solid black .50 caliber Desert Eagle could also be included as the most powerful model. And although I personally would never use it since I think they look cheesy and stupid, there could be a unique gold Desert Eagle. Name it something like "Bling-Bling" or something retarded, I don't care. If you didn't include the gold model, there'd be an outrage for some reason. I prefer my guns businesslike. Anyways, just an idea, since I always used the DE as my character's sidearm in the previous titles, I own one in real life (pic included) and I just like it. Having to use the (in my opinion) ugly 12.7mm pistol and "pretend" is getting annoying.--HobbsGoblin 15:55, May 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, the 12.7mm SIG seems like it would fulfill the intended role of the Desert Eagle. Йура [[file:YuriKaslov - Sig image.gif|15px|link=User talk:YuriKaslov]] 15:58, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

That's not really the point though. The desert eagle was an iconic weapon from fallout and fallout 2 as it was the penultimate handgun available in the game; really out-shined only by the .223 pistol in fallout and later by the .44 revolver and gauss pistol in fallout 2. I for one am very disappointed that it did not reemerge in the newest titles. As for the various ammo types, in New Vegas it would be as simple as cycling ammo types just like every other gun. Only one model of the gun would be needed and it would simply be compatible with multiple calibers (yes I know that in real life you would have to replace the barrel and other internal components to change the caliber, but in the interest of convenience and avoiding over saturation it would only make sense to include just one new gun model.) Still and all, I miss the good old stand by. Zac hemker 16:09, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Oversaturation would be a problem, I agree, though I dislike the idea of having it compatible with multiple calibers. If you had a whole mess of different ammo types in your inventory, it would take about 9 different strikes on the ammo change button to go from .357 ball to 12.7 HP. For the sake of game lore continuity, the best choice would most likely be the .44 Desert Eagle, though I personally would like to see it in .50 caliber (12.7mm). It would also be easy to have mods for it, since it takes about 3 seconds to change a DE from it's stock 6-inch barrel to the extended 10-inch, and it has scope mounting rail slots machined into the top of the barrel (Weaver-spec on original guns, M1913 Picatinny-spec on modern Made-in-the-USA guns.) By contrast, it's somewhat difficult to mount a scope on a revolver unless it is specifically machined for mounting scopes (.44 revolver) and it's almost impossible (with a few exceptions) to change a revolver's barrel and still have it be accurate and safe (.357 revolver).--HobbsGoblin 16:56, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

I wonder why they decided not to use it this time around. It wouldn't be for any sort of copyright issues would it? I'm not really all that knowledgeable about copyright law so I don't know if they would have had to pay for the rights to use the actual "Desert Eagle" or not. Even still, it seems like they could have whipped a fictional reasonable facsimile. That's both the blessing and the curse of making a sequel using a new creative team; new ideas and new opinions. Zac hemker 19:45, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

My guess is that it was probably a copyright issue. When all the other Fallout games came out, the Desert Eagle was made in Israel and imported to the U.S. by Magnum Research. As of a couple years ago, right before FO3 came out, the Desert Eagle was licensed to, and is now made entirely in, the U.S. by Magnum Research. Don't know how or even if it would change anything, being as now it's an entirely American owned product, but that seems likely. It could be they just didn't want to have ANY real "named" guns, as "Desert Eagle" is it's real world name, and all the other guns based loosely on real guns, like the Service Rifle, .357 Revolver, etc. all use vague names instead of a real world name.--HobbsGoblin 05:36, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Still seems like they could have created a model that resembled the desert eagle and called it something else like ".44 Auto Pistol" or something like that. Just disappointing that such a staple of the series is so glaringly absent. Zac hemker 01:34, June 2, 2011 (UTC)