Talk:Benny

The Lies of a Bug!
This has just been tested, and proven that it does not work. I just spent a good 4-5 hours of my life getting to this point, and then getting shanked in the back by the fact that this god damn bug does not exist.

I quote,

If you have Benny come up to the presidential suite with you, and let him survive, he will move to the front of The Tops lobby. If you have 35 barter skill, you can then repeatedly choose (what do you have in mind?) and (The suite's a nice touch...), which will give you 500 caps and 250 The Tops chips every time. This bug allows for effectively infinite money.

Someone take that shit down, eh?

Spoiler
Just FYI, it's not that big a spoiler that Benny is the shooter. It's something we'll find out before character customizaton, else Gstaff wouldn't have revealed it. Kris  mailbox  02:45, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think its a pretty big spoiler; you know him as 'THAT BASTARD IN THE BAD CHECKERED SUIT RAAAAAGE' at first, as far as we know.
 * (And Spoony would bash my pretty little face in if I told him who shoots you! D:) Nitty Tok. 02:49, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Virgin Mary 9mm?
after watching the intro vid a few time, I noticed that the grip of his 9mm is actually white, i could be wrong, but it would make sense for benny to have a unique 9mm if hes gonna use a 9mm LK Tien 19:21, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * It is white, but I couldn't see the head of the Virgin, even though it should have been poking out from under his palm... Nitty Tok. 19:23, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Looks like it in the new pic. Can we check in the game and confirm please now its been released? --Grupa &#39;Zamamee 19:05, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's one reason I took the picture at just that moment - it shows it quite clearly, unlike what we had to go on back in September when Nitty posted his previous comment about not being able to see it. -- 19:07, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Even if its not the virgin mary, i'm watching a vid with the opening cutscene and im pretty sure i can see some markings on it --GreaseBall 06:43, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

his gun is called maria and you can get it by killing him or from console commands

Cons? Khans?
Which is it? Nitty Tok. 18:58, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Both? http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 19:06, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm asking which he says in that line. Now I'm confused as to whether the guys he's with are Khans or Geckoes. Nitty Tok. 19:07, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * What if Khans are ex-convicts? http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 20:08, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

The page talking about ozwaldo (point lookout) has a benny link that leads to this. is it a mistake or are they the same benny? --GreaseBall 13:19, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

He means "KHANS", not Cons. The Khans are confirmed to be in New Vegas- if you look at a recent screen shot it shows a guy wearing a "Great Khans" jacket that looks a lot like the clothes the two mooks in the intro video are wearing. Benny is a Gecko, that's why he made a point of distinguishing his behavior from that of the Khans. There was obviously some cooperation between the two gangs in this betrayal.--68.118.203.7 04:03, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Chairmen
Character video has him as the leader of the chairmen, I've changed the article to reflect that. --Grupa &#39;Zamamee 19:12, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Is there anyway to work with benny at all ever?
I convince him to talk to me alone in the suite but when I agree to work for him he just sends his men to kill me and flees... which seems similar to all the other options where he flees... which seem similar to the options where I kill him... I kinda wanted the chairmen to run the world! they're so ring-a-ding baby... why can't I work with them :( ? Namad 06:27, October 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have the Black Widow perk and I had a choice to sleep with Benny (but not kill him). He left a note for me the next morning, saying I will have a spot next to him when he takes over. However, Caesar captured him and I can either kill Benny or can help him escape (with lots of effort, by killing Caesar's Legion). I had reverse pick-pocketed a Stealthboy and 2 Bobby pins on Benny in the hotel, hoping that would allow him to escape once Caesar grabbed him. Unfortunately, when I went to confront Caesar, Benny was no longer holding those items. In any case, when I spoke to Benny, he said that if I let him go, I would never see him again. He told me I was his legacy. So the answer is no, you cannot work with Benny at all, ever. If he lives, he will flee.--Deboriole 19:11, October 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, if you just untie him he says he'll back you up, and he does, so that's kind of like working with him... But it doesn't last long with a half dozen of Caesar's personal guards pounding on the two of you with pneumatic fists.  Personally I'm annoyed Caesar wouldn't let me keep Benny as a slave.  I didn't want him to die, I wanted him to live a long and healthy life under my boot heal.  But I think it's clear from the get that Caesar doesn't understand women. --TandyBomb 12:01 PM Pacific 11/02/10


 * * Ha, Caesar not "understanding" women is an understatement. :)--Deboriole 18:06, November 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * *I think he understands women too well. I mean, you gals had sex with the man who shot you and left for dead. No wonder he doesn't tolerate much such crazy and perverted creatures :P


 * * * Well, I didn't sleep with him, I was willing to chat with him in private like a reasonable person. But as far as Black Widows being able to sleep with him and choose not to kill him in his sleep I can only say that it takes two to tango Daddy-o. Some crazy dame you failed to kill at point blank range comes along for seconds from your other weapon you don't have to take her up to you room. - TandyBomb "I'm only going to say this once...  *Give me the naughty nightwear!" 02:14, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

If you kill everyone in the area before you untie him, then talk to him and ask what if I untie you, he'll say something like "you and me on the strip, or ill leave forever, whatever you want baby". I doubt you could actually have him with you though. (Btw I used console commands to kill everyone/keep him alive). After I untied him he ran but seemed to get 'stuck' on a door, like repeatedly going through it. I went through the door and now he's nowhere to be found anywhere. I'll reload and try to keep him.. like a little checkered pet. 72.95.83.19 03:08, December 29, 2010 (UTC) Sarah

Escape.
I'm not absolutely certain, but is it just me or does benny die when you help him escape? I think the guards beat him down pretty fast on my game. It's hard to tell because I die very quickly after him and he is invisible. Zarts 12:20, October 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you don't mind killing everyone, there's a way around that. I killed the entire legion before letting him go. He commented on how they never stood a chance. lol Ganondorf 06:05, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

At this point he says something along the lines of, "You're a real scrapper, they didn't stand a chance. Now what about me?" My responses are to waste him, untie him, and ask him what happens if I untie him. When I ask the outcome of my freeing him, he says that it's up to me whether he helps me take over the strip or he rides into the nearest sunset. I decided to release him. I don't trust him, but still decided to give him a chance, figuring that he owed me his life and he would be of some benefit. He then vacates the premises, engaging Legionnaires along the way. Things start getting glitchy here. He pops in and out of the gate from the inner camp out to the area with the trenches. If I go through the gate, he is nowhere to be seen, but once or twice he has appeared from nowhere to open fire. For the most part he is invisible and pops in and out of existence. At this point, I'm not sure if I want to follow through with this set of actions, or if I should just load, kill him, and take Maria. I just had the idea that he may be in the Tops Suite, or maybe if I talk to this Yes Man he might explain his whereabouts. Going back to the original thread in this topic though, it is possible for Benny to live, but it's easier to keep him alive if you leave him tied up for the fight. As for outside The Fort, I don't know if he is anywhere in Mojave.
 * SPOILERS* I began this quest highly prepared at level 30. After updating the Securitrons for Mr. House, instead of surrendering my gear to the Legion, I killed them one by one, eventually wiping out the entire encampment. I led the Legionnaires out from Caesar's tent, and blew them all up (including Caesar). I then went inside, and Benny was still tied up.

Dude kill all the legionaries before you help him escape--30y1

Doin' Benny
The article seems to imply that Benny can be seduced if you have either Lady Killer or Confirmed Bachelor as a perk, when in fact, Benny cannot be seduced with Confirmed Bachelor, as no dialog options are available with the perk. Unless my game is glitched, that should probably be removed from the article. 208.118.27.217 21:11, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

You're right, the article made me think that Benny would sway to the gay side.. oh well.

Uhh you need the Black Widow perk to do him--30y1

Benny voiced by Matthew Perry from Friends
Benny is voiced by Matthew Perry of Friends fame who somewhat famously effed up his hands by playing FO:3 obsessively enough to induce carpal tunnel or something - maybe Fallout Hands could be a new diagnosis?

Is this tidbit worthy of adding a "Behind The Scenes" section? De stijl 07:56, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds interesting enough to do so IMO. Zarts 06:55, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

whereabouts
does anyone know where benny goes after he exits the fort?

Nowhere. =P

If you release him its likely he'll get killed by the Legionares, if he doesn't he'll repeatedly enter and exit the inner fort area...and that's about it. No him and you going to the strip for an alternative Yes Man quest, you just assume he rides off into the nearest sunset and starts afresh in some other godforsaken place in the wasteland- New Reno's newest player. Shame, it would have been nice if he (and a load of others) had end game mentions. =/ -Wyrmalla (once again forgetting to sign in ¬¬)

Er uh...
Benny Gecko? Source, pliz?--With care and happiness,  Supermutantslayer450'  YOU. LOSE.  03:26, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Look at matthew perries voice box on wikipediaFryingpan57 03:27, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

I just left a request for the source of that info on the Matthew Perry talk page over at Wikipedia. Personally, I think it should be reverted back to simply "Benny" until this is resolved. The Captain (radio) 03:45, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

At one point in development, the Chairmen were going to be called the Geckos, with Benny Gecko as the head of the Gecko family. This was changed, most likely due to possible confusion with other geckos in Fallout: New Vegas. There's no reason to assume that the Gecko family name survived the change. -- 06:20, March 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmmmm... very interesting info, as such I am going to put it in the page. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 01:45, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Appreciate it, Avatar, but since that info is about Chairmen and not Benny, it should be on the Chairmen page, not Benny's page.--With care and happiness,  Supermutantslayer450'  YOU. LOSE.  01:50, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Benny: Moron?
Some of Benny's mistakes seem excusable (errare humanum est and all that), but others I'm just thinking "what is that guy thinking?" Let's see: when attempting to murder the courier, he makes no attempts to disguise his identity, either to the courier or to Jessup and McMurphy: he wears his trademark suit and uses his trademark gun, wears his trademark hairstyle, etc.

Then he stiffs Jessup and McMurphy out of their pay, even though 1) they're eyewitnesses to him committing attempted murder (in which, yes, they're both accomplices at least), 2) he's the friggin' head of the chairmen, and probably has more than enough money to pay them fifty times over, and 3) Jessup was probably high on psycho or something (watch the intro and look at him!), making pissing him off while he's holding a big shovel a doubly stupid idea (yes, ultimately this is the dog that didn't bark -- Jessup does keep enough of his cool over being stiffed not to turn on Benny, but Benny was gambling with his life for no real reason -- that fact that he didn't roll snake eyes on that particular roll of the dice doesn't make it smart).

Even without the courier's miraculous and unanticipated survival, say one of the Khans just walked into Freeside, walked up to a Securitron at the North Gate, and said "by the way, Benny murdered a courier carrying some sort of platinum chip that I think Mr. House may have wanted. Here are some of his cigarette butts, his lighter, and an eyewitness account of him murdering a courier at a location near Goodsprings where we can point you to his grave. Uh... he acted alone. Yup. We were just bystanders who happened to see it."

Not to mention that he neither 1) gets Swank's support for his scheme, or 2) replaces Swank with someone who does support him. What if he had had a lover in his suite who talked to Yes Man (since apparently, when Benny has sex, he invites women to his own suite, and also has the workshop next to his suite) after Benny slipped out in the morning (as he is wont to do), and told Swank about it?

His SPECIAL stats put his intelligence at 3. Is that actually an overestimate? Or is there some reason why he had to do things the way he did, making this a gamble that didn't turn out well, but he played his hand as well as he could? It seems like there are so many ways in which his plans could go wrong that the Courier's survival probably only hastened Benny's demise by a week.

Idhan 03:34, May 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think he is just meant to portray "Bad leadership" with all of the mistakes. After all, if he had brains he would let the courier work for him. Seeing as he crawled all the way through the wasteland and got into the Strip on his own.

Honestly, most of your points don’t hold much water. For starters disguising yourself from someone you about to kill is, well, pointless as they will be dead and can no longer identify you. Benny certainly didn't plan on you surviving so there would be little point in him not letting you know who he was.

The other thing you have to remember is Benny is a big shot in the terms of the New Vegas 'underworld' so going to the Khans as the leader of one of the three families meant a much better chance of them helping him. If some random wastelander approached them with wild stories about couriers and platinum chips they'd probably of just killed him. The fact that they were eyewitness or accomplices means nothing in a anarchic world where there is no set of laws or governing body to hold him accountable for them.

Sure Benny certainly had the caps to pay the Khans off if he wanted to. But having the money and wanting to part with it are too different things. Sometimes, the richer you are the cheaper you get. (How many times do you hear about some millionaire athlete or celebrity getting sued for child support or some small (in their terms) amount of money despite the fact that they could easily pay it off?) Plus, you have the fact that Benny is the leader of a New Vegas Family and the Khans, to him, are just a barbaric peasant 'street gang'. They mean nothing to him and his ego allows him to not perceive them as a threat no matter how bad he pisses them off. In his mind he is a god among men, and will only be stronger with the chip and no one can stop him.

Sure, the Khans could try and tell the Seruritrons what happened, but that would require two things. One, the Khans would have to be smart enough to collect the evidence, which they weren't or they would have before you find it and pick it up. Not to meantion they’d have to be smart enough to even think of telling them in the first place. And two that anyone in New Vegas would take the word of a couple of low life thugs over the word of one of the Strips most powerful men, they wouldn't.

Don't get me wrong, Benny was by no means a 'smart' man, but he was still smarter than most wastelanders, he did rise to the head of one of the families after all. I just don't think you arguments have much credence. But that's just my two cents.The Montreal Screwjob 02:45, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Karma
Why in the description his karma is Very Evil? Unless it's so in G.E.C.K, he should be neutral... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.24.10.194 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~ !


 * It's not Very Evil in the article, it's Evil, and the G.E.C.K. supports that. -- 19:28, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Best. Note. EVER.
''If you untie him from the Fort while a female with Black Widow after you slept with him he does not keep his promise of his date. ''

I don't know who added this, but I like how you think. :D --- TandyBomb 04:57, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

What he actually knew
I just updated Benny's background and wanted to explain here my changes. In the previous version the background section it said that Benny knew about the MkII software and the Securitron army under the Fort. However, when you talk to him in the tent before going down there (and after coming back up) he knows nothing of these things. When you ask him why he's here he says he only knows that House has something stashed under the island and that the chip is the key to whatever it is. --- TandyBomb 16:32, September 2, 2011 (UTC)