Talk:Chinese radio beacon

Thanks a lot for translation ;) I was extremely curious what was the meaning of these broadcasts! And i don't know a word of Chinese. So really thank you! --Merinid 06:11, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Sounds like "BISON! BISON!" to me, rather than the phonetic suggestions in the article.
 * --Oferphuxake 19:33, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Location
Why random location? Signal is broadcasted by Broadcast Tower KB5, which is on the same place, every game. J.i.gorkij 19:08, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

?? That tower broadcasts Alfa Lima. I'm pretty sure that it's random. In my first game, I picked it up when I first arrived at the Anchorange War Memorial. In my current game, it isn't there.

I picked my only first one out of three games outside of Arlington Library infront of Alexandria Arms. I've been to the same location on both of my other files and have not picked up the single.(I also can not find where the corpse is near Alexandria Arms.) Realek 22:05, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

I picked up the signal right next to MDPL-13 Power station on my second character.DeathByWaffle 20:41, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Anyone want to add that I found it NE of Fort Constantine, near the top of the map, west of the radio tower added by The Pitt

I found it near the MDPL-13 Power sation

Found in the middle of nowhere, between megaton and one of the western vaults.

I found near the Anchorage War Memorial. It is a random location. Kingclyde 00:50, 14 April 2009 (UTC)kingclyde

Right in front of the Super-Duper Mart for me God damn ghouls 01:42, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

i piked it up at the nuka cola plant and and vault 106( the body was right at the entrance.--Feral ghoul 00:01, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Disappearance?
I found the signal in the vicinity of the road between Megaton and Andale. I didn't look for the source then and now it's not there, it seems. Will it stay in the same place each game and for the rest of that game or does it disappear? Lorkonius
 * It should remain in the same place. If you're having trouble finding it, tell Dogmeat to search for weapons or ammo and he'll lead you to the corpse.
 * Tried, didn't work. I found the signal but not the corpse itself. I'm guessing it glitched to some inaccessible space. /Lorkonius
 * Found radio underground, with tcl, no corpse above or close, Dogmeat doesn t move when i tell him to search for a weapon. It was on the E of the highway, NNW of Temple Of the Union, SWW of Grisly Diner. You can hear it when going with Outcast patrol on the road parallel to the W of highway. --ThorX 21:52, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

"Known Locations" list
This list is a mess; would anybody object to the removal of the least specific entries, e.g.


 * Somewhere on the caravan path, near a billboard and a blown up car.
 * Somewhere near Oasis
 * Outside Meresti

Since this thing's appearance is random (and I see no "x2" or similar entries suggesting that its appearance is random to a fixed # of locations) I think a lot of paring could be done. I think this begs a table, too.

Thoughts? --Oferphuxake 18:34, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't think "Somewhere" is specific enough. There's a list of all locations for random encounters on this page.  --MadDawg2552 19:02, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, that's even more hideous. The idea of trying to categorize random encounters is pretty stupid; a lot of these users are likely unaware that "roving" encounters spawn outside locations and travel to others; we would have an virtually endless list of caravan encounters if it wasn't stated "hey, these things move!"
 * I'd really love to fix this... hideous... wall of graffiti but... *sigh*
 * --Oferphuxake 19:31, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Just got the signal upon finding Vault 106's entrance. (XBOX 360)  λ T 22:39, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Being that this is a random event, I don't beleive there should be a list because it is different for everyoneKingclyde 22:57, 4 May 2009 (UTC)kingclyde

found him to the north-north-west of broadcast tower lp-8, under the destroyed road. 82.199.102.34 04:47, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I got mine outside Grayditch, there's a destroyed 2-story building in front of Grayditch's "gate", next to the Talon Company Camp, the dead chinese commando spawned on the 2nd floor, and the ham radio right below him where I could just walk up and interact with it. (PS3) --Penumbra 03:40, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I added this as a glitch since the radio is supposed to remain unseen. I just had the same thing happen to me after completing Head of State on the PS3.  I went back to Temple of the Union and the commando was on the second floor with the radio hovering just below the ceiling near Caleb's room on the ground floor.～ Iridia    talk | contrib  02:37, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I got the Signal just outside of Jalbert Brothers Waste Disposal, and found a ghoul chinese commando in front of the inside entrance past the gate. (PC) --112.200.178.240 09:58, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Incorrect Pronunciation?
Came across this wiki article when I was unable to find the corpse (I still can't, although I can pinpoint where it should be due to the beacon's radius--my commando should be right in front of the super mart). However, I'd like to disagree with the statement that "Bì Shèng" is incorrectly pronounced, because although the pronunciation "Bi Sheng" (必胜) does mean "We will be victorious", "Bai Shèng" (百胜) means more along the lines of "100 battles, 100 wins", based off an old chinese proverb. Thus, both are correct, and therefore I disagree with the statement that the in-game pronunciation is incorrect.

It would be nice if someone could back me up on this though, I hate making non-minor edits as an anonymous user. --70.64.72.42 02:10, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * You are correct, it can be pronounced both ways. Maybe the editor who added it thought it was refering to the former? I have changed it accordingly 98.198.83.12 08:23, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * 19 January 2010 "Bi Sheng" is certainly not what the voice actor in the game is saying. If you were to pronounce that pinyin correctly, it would be "bee shung" shung rhymes with hung. What the person in the game is saying is "Bai Si" or using English words buy sir (minus the r). The voice actor is clearly not Chinese and probably was not trained well enough to pronounce whatever he's meant to be saying correctly. My guess is that he's meant to be saying 白死 or in Pinyin Bai (1st tone) Si (4th tone) which basically translates to White Die, meaning Death to White (Western) people. Regardless of whether I am 100% correct on what the developers wanted to have the guy say, he is most certainly not saying "We will be victorious". Therefore, I am editing the entry to reflect this.

Removed from article for further discussion

 * The voice of the the radio repeats "Bì Shèng!" (Chinese: "必胜！", English Translation: "We will definitely be victorious!")

I appreciate the discussion going on above. I think it should continue until there is some consensus among those who speak the language. Until a consensus is reached, let's leave it here on the talk page. Thanks.--Gothemasticator 08:38, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Bi Sheng is also a Chinese "discipleship" ritual, whereby the initiate would devote themselves to a master / task (irrelevant, but interesting.

Ok - I've sorted this now.

I have sources, plus a native Cantonese speaker (who also says they understand most other dialects apparent in Chinese) who corroborates the sources I have uncovered.

Therefore, I will be adding this to the article:

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The message broadcast over the signal is "bai shi" 敗 失, which is pronounced more like "sir" by people for whom Chinese is a second language. (or can be perceived as "shi bai" 失 敗), both of which mean losing and/or failing [in a war or in anything else].

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There is also some speculation as 白死 [dialect] could mean "dying uselessly/in vain", but I/we doubt it, however nicely it seems to fit in with Fallout 3's story... The angry tone in which the commando delivers the message conveys the feeling that he is angry that he has "lost". Which the chinese did, as the guys in the power armour kicked their arses.

It's taken me about a month to get this right - so don't change it unless you have a very good reason, alright..? Saccade 20:16, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

noclip on XBOX 360?
In the bugs section of the article, one of the bugs implies that a player can use the noclip code to go underground. Can you even enter noclip mode in XBOX? I didn't think so but now I'm not as sure. Sohmc 14:18, October 19, 2009 (UTC)


 * On the one below it, it mentioned the ham radio can be seen floating if the body spawned on a 2nd story. Most likely what they saw. Tzaro the Outcast 01:21, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

The Pitt
I found the signal in The Pitt, although it's just static. I don't know if this is a bug or if it was put there deliberately, every time I reload a save and go to the location, the signal is still there. If somebody would like to confirm this, then you'll have to live the map boundaries and go 5.5 squares west 1.5 squares north of The Pitt Bridge. --Anon (Talk) 02:49, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

It'd be nice to have a pic of the commando.
I'll see if I can find him again, but you guys seem to know how to spawn this shit (or, more accurately, can be bothered to).

It'd be good to have a pic of the guy as well as the radio found by using noclipping.

Anyone wanna put one up, cos it may take me a while...

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I thought I already had, Ghouls...

I've got one of the commando (at the Nuclear Dump, but you can use the random event spawn points and save/load - *if* you can be arsed...) somewhere. Will put it up when I'm next on The Beast. [instead of macbook :P] §accade as 86.129.178.186 20:10, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Since I can't seem to find the revision in the history, a new image of the commando is needed after all :/ Here's the ref for him i think... It's a unique encounter, so I'll start a new game and see if I can conjour him up. Saccade 14:07, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Guys - will someone else please upload a photo of the dead commando? I've not much time for games right now and haven't played Elder Scrolls: Fallout 3 for quite a while. I'm quite busy with real life stuff and the page *does* need a picture of something other than the radio that no-one will see unless they use the noclip or encounter a major bug.

Thanks Lazy Saccade as 86.141.168.214 14:18, August 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Don't think I've played Elder scrolls: Fallout either. - RASICTalk 15:14, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Location
Okay, so if I picked up the signal right outside Super Duper Mart, where exactly would the body be? I've searched around and I can only find a raider I killed earlier. Either the body didn't spawn, like the glitch says, or my fears have been confirmed and he actually spawned on top of the building. I checked inside and still nothing. Chief z 11:34, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't seen that encounter there. Check all over the parking lot as well as the road back behind the building that sits across the river from the metro station, the one where the super mutants spawn if you go to the river-level platform on the other side to attack the raiders there - I had Sam Warrick come down that road on one occasion. -- 12:08, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * The signal seems to be originating right out front of the store, but I still can't find anything. You have to be in the parking lot or close to the building itself, otherwise you won't pick up the signal. I tried blowing up the cars to see if the body spawned underneath them, but to no avail. Fast-traveling, resetting the console, etc. doesn't seem to work either. Can you guys bring it up in the GECK? That's the only thing left I can think of right now. Chief z 23:50, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Firelance tends to drop on top of the awning, inaccessible to the player. Perhaps that's where your dead Chinaman is too. Odd place, considering, but idk. -- 00:54, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I got on the ridge on the south side to check with the sniper scope, but still nothing. I even sent some frags and and mini-nukes on the awning, but I didn't see anything fly off. I guess the body just didn't spawn. Thanks for the help anyway. Chief z 04:35, September 29, 2010 (UTC)