Forum:Deathclaws aren't THAT tough.

I had mentioned this to Jspoel a few weeks back and finally got to writing this as my laptop has broke (again) and I just got my other laptop back that is far more reliable (Ill talk about that in another post).

I was doing the quest Bleed Me Dry and was at Quarry Junction for the final part of the quest, which was getting the deathclaw eggs.

After nearly wiping out all of the deathclaws I only had to contend with baby deathclaws and the Mother deathclaw.

I had Cass with me and I had her equipped with a T-51b power armor, and its helmet along with a silenced 12.7mm submachine gun, all fully repaired. I had a complete set of power Remnants power armor and its helmet, and I was using an Anti-materiel rifle, all also fully repaired.

This was my first time using the Anti-material rifle as In previous playthroughs I didn't have a desire to carry a 20 pound rifle and ammo the weighs a quarter of a pound (I play Hardcore mode) but decided to give it a try and loved it before going deathclaw hunting.

I digress. Anyway I was facing the mother deathclaw along a ramp by a sort of conveyor belt on the right side of the quarry adjacent to its nest.

The thing was so close that I was only able to get in two or three shots before it could maul me. So I switched to incendiary round, jumped into VATS, aimed for her head, pressed Accept and... THE BULLET FREAKING BOUNCED OFF!!! The VATS camera even followed the bullet until it hit a nearby wall, where the mother deathclaw promptly sliced me and cass into bits.

Has this incident ever happened to anyone else before where the bullet just bounced off their or is this just a freak thing.Chief editor 13


 * My guess is you had the equivalent of rolling snake eyes on a pair of 20 sided die. Not playing hardcore, about Level 12 I climbed the tower in the middle of the quarry and spammed the mother with 40mm grenades and lucked out that she never got close to me. I got the male just prior by laying down four C-4 charges in a choke point. He was airborne for several seconds and I had to hunt for the pieces. Cass seems to do the best for me with the hunting shotgun. GRPeng 18:23, August 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Just loaded that save, it was L15. I went to Gun Runners and they did not have A.M. yet. Used console to add one and then went to Dam to get ammo. Enabled Hardcore, ammo to incendiary, set strength to 10 and guns to 100 (so I could aim), luck to 1. Shot at mother and waited until she was close enough to VATS 95% and had no problem setting her on fire, died though. GRPeng 19:32, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

I honestly don't think I've ever seen any bullet bounce off a surface of any kind. Did you actually see the bullet bounce, I mean a complete change in direction after making contact with the deathclaw? Otherwise I think you may have just missed in VATS. In my experience missing like that happens anytime your target is using a melee weapon or is a creature with a lunging combat move, and before you fire they move very close to your player. If it happens just right, or rather wrong in this case, you will inexplicably miss at point blank ranges. This might have just been what you saw, and if the particular VATS scene was the one which follows the bullet, then after it missed, you saw it fly off in a random direction. XxSick DemonxX 20:14, August 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * Here's something you may not know (this is just a general gameplay thing not specific to Deathclaws): if an enemy is at point blank range, and your trying to kill it with a ranged weapon, the reason you would miss in that situation is because the weapon actually clips past them. Weapons won't shrink if you stand face-to-face against a wall (including railings) or an enemy, so when you shoot, the barrel will either hit the wall or shoot from behind them, missing completely. --Tag! 03:10, September 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Its wasn't at point blank. It was a fair distance. It was close enough for me to start screaming inside my head but not close enough for it to clip through or have it be right on top of me, it was actually on the incline. To give you better idea where I was it was on an incline and to the right was the conveyor belt and if memory serves me right, and I was on the ridge across from the body of water that had the fatman And when I say the camera followed the bullet, is when sometimes you get a critical bullet the VATS camera will follow the bullet until it hits the target and even after it hit it target it Literally bounced off and the VATS camera continued to follow it until it hit the wall. Chief editor 13

Do it without VATS. The Wasteland (Fallout) won't allow cheating.

I though I was crazy today, but the guy is right, this happened to me too! I was doing HH and was attacked by two White Legs. I then used VATS and targeted two shots with my Trail Carbine loaded with SCW ammo. The first shot bounced off, the VATS also followed the bullet for some time, but since I was in the middle of the road, it hitted nothing. Only then it fired my second shot, wich hitted and killed the White Leg, but he was armed with a Fire Axe and even got close to me and hitted me one time with the weapon. I've played more than 20 complete playthroughs of NV, doing every available quest, this is the first time I saw this! Brfritos 10:57, September 1, 2011 (UTC)