Talk:Shadis

Deletion
Dont unique named animals get their own pages? BILLYOCEAN 04:33, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Unique creatures get their own pages. BILLYOCEAN 04:39, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Named creatures
Ghost Avatar told me earlier that named creatures get their own pages. 9mm pistol.png 04:33, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Then how come the unique spore carrier,Y-17 skeleton dude, and Dionaea Muscipula all got deleted and moved to the generic pages? --Xa3 04:41, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that must have been a mistake. BILLYOCEAN 04:41, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * See Moe, or Fluffy. BILLYOCEAN 04:42, July 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * If I recall right, it was an admin that did the deleting and moving. --Xa3MysteriousStranger.png 04:44, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * I asked an admin for input, dont change it until then. BILLYOCEAN 04:46, July 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * I just checked the loggs, Ghost Avatar deleted the pages and moved them. --Xa3MysteriousStranger.png 04:48, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * If thats the case, we need a major overhaul of pages. Why does Muggy have a page? BILLYOCEAN 04:49, July 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * He is an actual character not a creature. --Xa3MysteriousStranger.png 04:49, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * What about Ruzka then? if thats really the policy, then like I said, we need a major overhaul. BILLYOCEAN 04:50, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Or even Ghost of She.
 * What logs? Patient Zero is still there and redirect set by Jspoelstra. UserGreatMara.png pistol.png 04:52, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * As far as I'm concerned, I think that, in this particular case, there should be a page specifically for Shadis, but also a brief section in the nightstalker page variants, like "Shadis is a unique nightstalker found in the Z-9 Crotalus DNA Preservation Lab. He's vicious and whatnot." Something like that. I mean, we keep the Ruzka and Ghost of She pages around, why not keep Shadis? Kastera (talk) 04:54, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Replying to above discussion: The extent of the current policy for merging creature variations has gone too far, and for named creatures such as this and others it is sheerly ridiculous and makes no sense. Bear in mind that unique creatures are not just sub–species of a creature type but individuals with specific names and roles (even if their role may simply be a miniboss). In reality Shadis and all other unique creatures are NCPS who each deserve their own pages according to our rules. Creature variations should only be merged if they are not unique, or at least don't have a proper name, which leaves the possibility that others of their type exist (such as the Alpha male lakelurk). We already have pages for other animal characters like Ruzka and Lupa, and for all the unique robot enemies in Old World Blues and elsewhere, which in reality are functionally the same type of entities as "creature" creatures. For a prime example, see the Vault 34 Overseer. He is an individual who used to be human, has a background and specific important role described in the game, plus is a very notable and cool unique enemy that deserves special note moreso than most others. Yet he redirects to the normal "Feral Ghoul" article simply because he happens to be a hostile Feral Ghoul in–game, but lore–wise that shouldn't matter, as we have separate pages on all notable individuals, shouldn't matter if they're human or not.Moleman 9000'' 05:36, July 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well quite simply, this state of affairs needs to be rectified. It can start right here, with dismissing the idea right now that this page should be deleted. -- 12:03, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Short answer for this, unique creatures don't get its own page, named creatures does get its own page. As for the page deletions mentioned above, they are most likely due to anons creating the page for simply for the sake of creating a page and filling it with rubbish, if I had felt the info should be in the creature page, then I would have redirected it to that page. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 17:34, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

I think you're just a smartass dick who needs to gttfo