Forum:Signatures

I have nothing against people wanting to pretty up their signatures, but the signatures with oversized images are getting a bit out of hand recently. Using images is fine, but leaving a thumbnail on every talk page you contribute to or using images in a size that make your entries 4 times as large as necessary is just annoying for others. I propose an addition to the user conduct guideline to reign these in, but I'd like to hear other opinions first. -- Porter21 (talk) 17:16, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed on my part. Ausir(talk) 17:47, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed. As far as limits go, I think Grizzly's sigs are a decent rule of thumb. Not so big as to be annoying, but certainly fun enough to satisfy.--Gothemasticator 17:58, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, a height limit of 16px for sig images sounds reasonable, it's about the height of a normal line. For width I'd set 40-50px as the limit. Only one image per signature, and the  and   options should be off-limits. These are my suggestions anyway, feel free to make/add your own :) -- Porter21 (talk) 18:21, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * This is partially my fault, I've been making signature's for people lately, but I didn't know that the image size was a problem. Sorry! Nukey - (Speak to me!!!)

18:34, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it, Nukey. We haven't had a policy about this, so you weren't doing anything wrong. :) --Gothemasticator 18:38, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed, it needs to stop. Shadowrunner56 21:28, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the oversized sigs are annoying as well. No offense Nukey, the one you made for me is visually appealing, but I didn't realize how much space it would take up for one entry/section on a forum or similiar page. So, I believe the margins should be:, and  , at the most. The only one that really bothered me was Enclave13's, namely because his sig was about 44 pixels in height (User_talk:Ghouly89/Archive 1). Ghouly89 (Talk)06:42, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

No worries, Nukey - there are plenty of people who have used oversized images in the past, it's not really a new issue (it just got a little more pronounced recently). Anyhow, seems like we primarily need to settle on the width limit. A little illustration below as the raw px sizes are a little abstract (height 16px). Pick your poison :) -- Porter21 (talk) 14:18, May 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * When I was looking up how to make a signature I came accross the WOWWiki's page on the subject. It says no more than 22 pixels tall for images. Maybe their text formatting is different, though?

19:01, May 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, anything above 16px causes the line to be higher than normal, at least if you haven't selected increased font-sizes in your browser. 22px is slightly higher than a normal line, but not so much as to cause too much distortion (which is what the WoWWiki page is referring to). That said, I wouldn't be opposed to making the height limit 20px, if only to have a round number. -- Porter21 (talk) 21:35, May 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Bumping this up because the poll expires tomorrow and we're currently at stalemate. -- Porter21 (talk) 17:37, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Poll
30px 40px 50px 60px

30px

 * Yes Shadowrunner56
 * Yes Nitty Tok.
 * Yes Ghouly89 (Talk)

40px

 * Yes Gothemasticator
 * Yes -- Porter21 (talk)
 * Yes --Tezzla Cannon (talk)
 * Yes --Metalspork
 * Yes

Poll is over, consensus sort of reached
I wonder how Shadowrunner, Nitty and Ghouly would feel about it if we moved ahead with implementing 40px as max width? You guys care to weigh in?--Gothemasticator 04:35, May 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have no objection, it would have been my second choice ;) Ghouly89 (Talk)21:11, May 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Good. Unless Shadowrunner or Nitty voice objections, I'll add the new signature image limit to the guideline on Sunday. -- Porter21 (talk) 19:29, May 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm ok with this. Shadowrunner56 20:12, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think a 40px max is pretty good. Nukey - talk20:16, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Result
The Vault:User conduct guideline has been updated with the following: If you'd rather have 16px as height limit, please speak up. We didn't really finish that discussion, so I simply went for the "round" number. -- Porter21 (talk) 21:32, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm just glad the word obtrusive has made it onto our wiki. 20px high is fine with me.--Gothemasticator 06:52, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll go for 20px as well. 16 is a little small to make out some images anyway. Ghouly89 (Talk) 07:07, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * 20px sounds good enough for a signature. Shadowrunner56 10:51, June 4, 2010 (UTC)