Forum:Civil Rights (Reposted from Divergence:Talk)

Something that's always bothered me about the Fallout universe is that it's never addressed segregation. I realize that their world isn't an exact split, or alternate history, but the issue of racial quality is still something that every culture has had to deal with, especially the 1950's "Golden Era" of the USA. There's a pretty big hole from 1955 to 1968, but because the culture seems to stagnate right there, I assume that the civil rights movement never happened. So, how is equality explained in Fallout? Clearly racism exists, ghouls are discriminated against and sexism is alive and well. Fallout doesn't address homosexuality as well, even though in our time line, McCarthyism tied homosexuality to communism as one of the "roots of evil".

If anything, the "Red Scare" that exists in the fallout universe would cause further discrimination, but everyone seems pretty PC in the future.

Is there any information in Fallout Bible regarding Civil Rights?--Nux Matrix 20:57, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know if there is anything canon about Civil Rights in the Fallout Bible or elsewhere, but it makes me wonder about Chinese immigrants. During the war, were they treated like the Japanese during WWII, rounded up and put into camps?  If so would this have any bearing on the way an Asian character would be treated accordingly in the Operation: Anchorage sim?  I don't recall seeing any non-whites as Enclave, but that is probably because I wasn't paying attention when I killed/looted them.
 * I never played any of the earlier Fallouts, but I have heard that in at least one of them you could get married to someone of the same sex. With F3 sex isn't really dealt with in any way other than a passing innuendo unless I missed a brothel somewhere.  Overall, I think most people in the wasteland are much more tolerant because they have more important things to deal with, like not getting eaten.  Deathclaws and cannibals don't care about your skin, just the meat underneath it.  Besides, they have hindsight and can see what racial and nationalist hatred brought the world.  You reap what you sow.  The ghoul hatred is just fear of contamination and the unknown as to why the radiation didn't kill them.  Also, they're just so damned ugly.--JiNX Bloodfang 13:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Good point. With the ongoing Chinese invasion, you'd think they'd be a lot of hard feelings towards Asian characters. On the other hand, the hardships of the waste don't leave a lot of room for discrimination between people besides the ones who are shooting at you, and the ones who aren't. --Nux Matrix 16:56, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I think, generally, that the first person that brought up a grudge against someone because of race was promptly shot and made an example of. The law doesn't exist any more, so you have to be careful about what you say or do if you want to stay alive.  --MadDawg2552 21:45, 24 January 2009 (UTC)