Forum:Improving

On my Rollback request Ausir said that i am not experienced enough to be an admin yet. I want to be an admin. What should i improve on? And i noticed a lot of my articles are getting deleted, what articles should i make and not make? I want to know so that i can be a better editor. Tezzla Cannon 20:09, April 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think you've been doing bad... you should be an admin! Your such a great editor, and you have so much potetential! Nukey   talk


 * Thanks Nukey! Also, i want to know which articles i should and shouldn't create, since a lot of them have been deleted lately. Tezzla Cannon 20:20, April 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think the song articles and stuff aren't deemed useful, I sort of think that, but I understand that you're trying to help. Try to make articles that have to do with gameplay, storyline and stuff. Real world stuff isn't useful here. Sorry :\. Nukey   talk

You're still having some troubles with proper categorization and proper use of templates. As for real world stuff, I wouldn't say it's not useful. E.g. I'd say that articles about developers or actors etc. are pretty damn useful. Some just aren't important enough to have separate pages, like all the songs on Inon Zur's soundtrack and should be merged (unlike e.g. the GNR songs, since a lot more can be written about these, as evidenced on Wikipedia). Ausir(talk) 20:33, April 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Pretty much what Ausir said. Shadowrunner56 22:16, April 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, there are two main reasons why I would vote against an admin request on your behalf currently.
 * For one, we need to be able to rely on the quality of an admin's edits. Admins are the ones who are expected to check the edits of others, and not the other way round. You are still having trouble with things like:
 * Templates (e.g. "type" parameters in infoboxes generally accept only certain inputs, depending on the infobox in question; you can look these up on the page of the infobox)
 * Putting stuff in the correct sections as per our standard layouts (for instance, "Background" is not a "I'll just dump everything in here" section)
 * Judging what should have an own article and what shouldn't
 * Deciding which info should go into which kind of article (example: Hoover Dam Scum Pits, where you copy/pasted all the info about the trogs, Billy-Bob and his daughter - all of which doesn't belong on the location page).
 * The second reason partially follows from the first and your tendency to create a lot of articles. Articles created by admins are automatically marked as "patrolled" upon creation, which means they tend to slip through the cracks when other admins check new pages. Right now I wouldn't be comfortable with having all your new articles automatically being marked as patrolled for the aforementioned reasons.
 * As a general remark, you need to pay a bit more attention to the quality of the articles you create. I corrected multiple instances where you copy/pasted the text of edit buttons etc when creating new articles, and copying text from article view (rather than from the editing window) unnecessarily eliminates all wikilinks and formatting the text may have had prior to copying.
 * Sorry if my post sounds harsh, but you asked and I give honest answers :) -- Porter21 (talk) 15:30, April 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have to agree with Porter right now. The Vault is looking for administrators who have a decent technical understanding of the wiki (e.g. categorizing things, correct usage of templates, looking for the things that generally go unnoticed), and can make quality edits. As a fairly new administator, I have taken as much time as I could to improve my editing capabilities, rather than looking to make a ton of edits.


 * I personally think you have more to learn, like I know I do. So, once you start showing more advanced editing capabilities, you would earn my vote for an adminship request. :)

By the way, sorry for basically just repeating your words, Porter :P Ghouly89 (Talk)01:07, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

So, have i improved a bit? Anything i should still work on?that guy who likes to use the tesla cannon 19:28, May 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * The articles you create still often need fixing, e.g. in terms of naming or sometimes being too conjectural. Ausir(talk) 19:36, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * What the definition of conjectural?that guy who likes to use the tesla cannon 19:39, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Assuming something as a fact when there's not enough evidence for it. Ausir(talk) 19:42, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright i'll try to make my articles better. that guy who likes to use the tesla cannon 19:43, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, now that i have the time requirement done, unless i need to improve on something else, i shall make an adminship request. that guy who likes to use the tesla cannon 10:56, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

So, anything i should improve on? If there isn't then i'll make an adminship request right away. that guy who likes to use the tesla cannon 14:39, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I don't think you're ready yet. Articles you create often still require some fixing. I suggest you analyze what changes were done to articles after you created them by other users and use that for improving your edits. Ausir(talk) 17:07, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Example: a little while ago, you created a couple few pages for characters in ; I believe one of them was Water Merchant Guard. After you created it, I finished off the page by categorizing it, and finding the correct dialogue file / other information for the infobox. I think it is just the little things still that you need to remember to add besides the information. Ghouly89 (Talk) 23:46, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

I forgot to categorize those pages, however i do always categorize, and i don't know how to find dialogue files. that guy who likes to use the tesla cannon 09:23, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

I have now analyzed my mistakes in articles, and improved them. Should i make admin request now?that guy who likes to use the tesla cannon 14:44, May 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd wait a little while. Give people time to see that you have improved, and they're more likely to vote in your favour. -- Porter21 (talk) 17:57, May 19, 2010 (UTC)