Talk:Victoria Watts/Archive 1

Possible Bug?

Not sure if it's just me, but...

I triggered the quest, was given the component to turn over, recovered Harkness's memories, and told him to let me kill Zimmer. I spoke to Dr. Zimmer, told him about the android's identity, and as he left to collect Harkness, killed Zimmer and his bodyguard. So Harkness recognized I did what he asked, and I got the perk out of it as well. Watts, though, keeps telling me to turn the component over to Zimmer. So... bug? --DarkJeff 19:47, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, happened to me too. I don't really care since I got A3-21's Plasma Rifle and the Wired Reflexes perk. --Macros 19:52, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Same thing here (Maverick21 01:23, 21 July 2009 (UTC))
 * Likewise, she still says "Don't you have a component to deliver?" (or something like that). 4RM0 03:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Deleted Paragraph
"If you somehow view Victoria Watts' full inventory (after she has died), you will see that she has at least one Android Component even after she gives one to the Lone Wanderer. Some argue that this indicates that she is an android herself, although the presence of an additional component simply could be due to her involvement in the Railroad. However, in the Fallout 3 guide[citation needed] it states that she is indeed an android. Also, Victoria is a android based on the fact that during her dialogue with you after accepting the corresponding quest she refers to other androids as brethren. Lastly, her eyes do glimmer without a light source to reflect from."

I deleted this because it's wrong on several levels. First, she doesn't have an Android Component at any point. Before, during, and after the quest, she has a combat knife, a Wasteland Settler Outfit and a copy of Zimmer's key. The Android Component is given to the player through scripting and she never actually has one on her person. She does indeed say "Our android brethren have only us." but that's hardly an admission - it's just a figure of speech. Moira Brown, for instance, refers to "our more metallic brethren", but that doesn't mean she's a robot either. The point about the eyes is just nonsense. She has standard brown eyes and all eyes can glint under some circumstances. –Rpeh•T•C•E• 04:58, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

God what a bitch
She just pops out of no where and questions me on why I've been snooping around. I had no intention on completing this quest. I just read every holotape I find. And even if I was snooping around, who's she to tell me what and what not to do? I told Dr. Zimmer that the android is Harkness, and he gave me commonwealth technology. After that, I killed him, and Harkness gave me his unique plasma rifle. AWESOME! But still, I plan on killing that bitch

SHE HHUNTS YOU DOWN
I was doing the the quest the way to get the perk and plasma rifle and when im under water is the sikin part of the ship im at the exit and she gut appears  and almost gives me a heart attak i just killed her no one cars they sad good riddens  XD

Her spawn
I asked Seagrave Holmes about the android while he was near Zimmer's room, he gave me the holotape (Oh man! A circuit neuralizer!), I walked away, and about 5 seconds later Zimmer's door opened: Victoria walked out that room.

The door was previously locked, that would explain why she has the key, so she could leave the room. And it will clear that she specifically spawns in Zimmer's room, after getting the previously mentioned holotape.

I must add, that when spawning so close to me, she didn't care about me, she just walked around, sometimes not even leaving the room, though I could see her moving on the compass. I had to talk to her to get the android part.

I didn't see any of this anywhere in the articles, so I thought I should post it here. Gamesadict 06:11, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This happened to me too.--Occono 00:25, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

She is waaay too persistent
I was in minefield and had just sniped Arkansas from the overlooking cliffs when I received a message that Victoria Watts was unconscious. This was my second time through the game so I knew who she was so I waited for her to run up and yell at me when noticed that she was running strait through Minefield towards me. She must have "died" 12 times before she reached me. Wow. That is commitment. Just wanted to throw that out there. --Mandalore IV 06:15, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Victoria after the quest completion
The main page says:

''The GECK reveals that this bug occurs due to faulty dialogue ordering and conditioning. She should instead say "Nothing Stops the Railroad" but the dialogue string is BELOW "Don't you have a component to deliver" whereas it should be ABOVE it since the former has additional conditions. (Dialogue strings near the top of an NPC's dialogue list take priority over ones below it. A complete reversal of modification load orders.''

The problem is not so much the ordering, the problem lies with the conditions for both dialog lines. The conditions for both lines are not set properly, or rather, the variable MS08Fin.VictoriaTalk is not updated properly if you kill Zimmer, so Victoria won't recognize he's dead.

If you kill Zimmer for Harkness without giving Zimmer the component and then go to Victoria, she'll greet you by saying "Don't you have a component to deliver?" (GameMode). If you talk to her (activate her to go into conversation mode), she'll say, "Is there something else?" and then you can ask her all those old questions as if Zimmer were still alive. If you kill Zimmer, she's actually supposed to say "We'd best not be seen speaking with each other further. If you want a new face, see Pinkerton, down in the flooded fore section of the carrier bla bla bla..." The problem is that she doesn't recognize that Zimmer is dead. You need to add GetDead checks to both the original greeting and the one that is supposed to appear after Zimmer's dead. Same for the conversation options. Either that or fix the variable MS08Fin.VictoriaTalk - must be updated properly if Zimmer's killed.

Here's exactly what I've done:

Go tell Harkness he's a robot. Tell him you will kill Zimmer. Get the reward (his weapon).

Run to Zimmer, tell him that Harkness is the man he's searching for. Get the Wired Reflexes perk reward, lose some karma though. Go into sneak mode, shoot bodyguard, shoot Zimmer. This way you get both rewards and save Harkness along the way. WRFan 08:08, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

She is crazy!!!
My third play through I'm finally at the end of the "take it back" quest and out of nowhere she starts running towards me from the purifier and goes flying into the river when liberty prime throws a nuke at her she flew up in the air so high I'm sure tenpenny saw her flying from his tower lol.