Forum:In regards to your big decision at the end of Broken Steel...

Gadamj 02:36, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Long Version
Okay, I played nice and fair with the Brotherhood of Steel. I turned my Very Evil character into a saint and rid the wasteland of the Enclave for good. It was nice for a while, wearing a set of Brotherhood Power Armor armed with a Plasma Rifle and marching along side the BOS...Well now they're pissing me off again, about as much as the Outcasts did with their pompous-ass attitude towards your character. I mean, I single-handedly wiped out Adams Air Force Base, destroyed the Mobile Crawler, and when I fly back to the Citadel, all I get is a fucking pat on the back, and then get asked to keep doing shit for the lazy ass Brotherhood...helping them get cameras and Supermutant blood...but that wasn't what really made me mad.

What really got me pissed off at them, was the fact that I still get treated like a half-witted wastelander, who should feel lucky for being in the presence of the Brotherhood of Steel. Only one time, have I ever been recognized as a member of the Brotherhood was by one nameless scribe at the Purifier, who addressed me as sir knight. Other than that, I'm just "James' Kid" to the rest of them. I decided to go on a BOS genocide, armed with a Fatman, 40 mini-nukes, a Heavy Incinerator, a Tesla Cannon, and a Precision Gatling-Laser. I figured I get back at them and wipe out the citadel...only to realize that about half of the people in the Citadel are still marked as ESSENTIAL! I swear! We killed the rest of the Enclave, why the hell can't I take them out if they're pissing me off?! So this is where my concern lies... I'm wanting to go back to the beginning of Broken Steel, and was wondering if I could blowup the Mobile Crawler and the Citadel, or if I can only pick one.

Short Version
Can I blow up the Mobile Crawler and the Citadel, or am I only allowed to blow up one? And can I kill Lyons and the other wise essential members of the BOS if I choose to blow up the Citadel?--Esscex 20:09, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

You can blow up the citadel, then you get to kill Sarah Lyons. This still counts as completion. Have fun. Fat Man Spoon 22:27, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks, lol. So I take it that the aerial strike kills all the other pricks inside the Citadel? --Esscex 22:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Everyone. But no corpses. By the way, Nuked Citadel looks ace. Fat Man Spoon 23:02, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sweet! Thanks for the clarification, I'm going to go replay through broken steel now, lol. --Esscex 23:15, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I don't think I made it clear, It's one or the other. Nuking the Citadel give you access to a new armory, full of ammo and Callahan's Magnum and two Tesla Cannons. Fat Man Spoon 23:22, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * So you only can nuke one or the other? Fine by me, I think it'll be worth it. --Esscex 00:13, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I am getting ready to do the last mission with a character much like the one Esscex described and with the exception of losing Cross, it looks like a no brainer to me... nuke the pompus-ass Citadel, get the bad-ass 44 and roll back into the Wasteland. My only question is, if anyone knows, does the absence of the BOS make any difference in the population of the Wasteland?  Are there still Scribes at the Purifier?  How do the folks at Riverty City react?  That sort of stuff.. Thanks.Gadamj 02:37, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Damn, I never thought to check the Purifier. I reloaded (as I was a good guy) and Nuked the base. I think someone mentioned somewhere that there are still some in the wasteland. Oh, and there still might be some random BoS soldiers around the citidel, for no apparent reason. Fat Man Spoon 10:16, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


 * If you nuke the Citadel, everyone tries to kill you when the bird lands. The purifier scribes become hostile and it gets overrun quickly by the roaming Enclave soldiers.  The Enclave base at Adams is now subject to BOS patrols which are hostile.  I'll keep you updated as I learn more.Gadamj 15:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. I'm just now making my way into the Mobile Crawler again, and working my way up to the top. I wonder how big of a drop in Karma I'll gain for doing it. --Esscex 18:02, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

I went from very good to neutral, so I guess -1000. Fat Man Spoon 19:55, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

I've got a question for those of you who blew up the Citadel. Do you get to see the orbital strike happen? Cause it's a pretty cool to watch the crawler get nuked to hell by several dozen orbital nukes (though the condition it's in after this sequence is kinda stupid, it should be blown to shit like poor ol' Liberty Prime, instead it looks the same except the satellite dish is gone, gayness), it'd be a shame if you didn't get to see something similar for the citadel option.Cavesloth 05:16, 15 May 2009 (UTC)Cavesloth

No 'splosion for you. Fat Man Spoon 15:19, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I myself nuked Rivet City first, then I got no option to nuke another target. So I had to reload the game and nuke the Mobile base. I think it's bullshit. The satellite has a bunch of nukes ready to go, why drop ALL of them on ONE target? You should be allowed to nuke every target (there's 5 targets right?). Unless you nuke the Crawler, you could come back anytime and nuke another target at will. And what about the SatCon satellite? It has nukes to drop too, but it's useless. In all your travels, you should be able to find some tech to repair the damn SatCon, either in Raven Rock or Adams, or somewhere else. It could've been so much more, but in the end, it's so much less. Perj 06:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Uh, you can't strike Rivet City, though? If you've found a way around the error message at the Rivet City/Purifier/Megaton options I would love to hear about it. --96.243.180.70 07:00, 16 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Erm, your answer is GECK. If THEY didn't give me the game I wanted, I'm making the game I want. Perj 12:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)