Talk:Harold/Archive 1

Which Vault?
In the original Fallout game, when asked to "Tell Me About" 'Vaults', Harold refers to his vault as having 'too many people, not enough space or resources to go around'. This corresponds with Vault 27 which was to house double the sustainable amount of inhabitants. Given that Fallout 1 was of course released, it should be treated as canon. I don't understand why contradictory Van Buren data, which places Harold in Vault 29, should take precendence in this matter. Had Harold come from a vault filled with nothing but children and teenagers I imagine he would have mentioned this at the time, perhaps in addition to the lack of space and supplies. Subject 618 00:31, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Long Live Harold!
OMFG Harold's appearing in Fallout 3 this is awesome man67.180.225.161 00:00, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, how awesome. Shredding Fallout canon to the point of disgusting canon based meat gruel so they can play on some gimics froms the previous Fallout games as they have no fucking inteligence or creativity. How amazingly awesome. - Harlequin
 * Yes, it is, isn't it? =D And it bothers you, making it more awesome! ^__^--Kajex Firedrake 23:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

This is really awesome! But sad thing is, I'm going to do his wish... Give him peace, both to him and Bob. Finally something really inherited from previous FO series... But I wish there was more and more Goekhan 14:58, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Btw, I really hate myself now. I hope in the future games&expansions, Harold will be alive, swearing at Vault 101 dweller that refused to kill him, but instead decelerated or accelerated his growth - and he asks the very same but this time you are able to bring some radios, portable jukeboxes, maybe Agatha herself... To keep him busy, not wishing he was dead :) Goekhan 02:01, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Iron Maiden
It might be worth putting somewhere in the article that Harold's looks in F3 is strangely similar to Iron Maiden's "Fear of the Dark" album cover. What's more, Harold says that sometimes the outsiders who see him would run for the hills - another likely Maiden reference. M3n747 23:09, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Harold look is CLEARLY based on the Iron Maiden Cover Art of Eddie "The Head" as done by Derek Riggs and others. I believe there is reference to it in one of the Oasis articles but the Fear of the Dark cover again seems evidence enough of the inspiration for the "tree growing out of his head" concept seen in Oasis and elsewhere. I will add it to trivia when I get around to it. I had no idea Harold was such an important character! Here is the image of which above user speaks.


 * V.A.T.S. addict 03:31, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * While I don't want to rule that out, it seems more likely to me that he's based on Swamp Thing, the comic about a mutant humanoid plant monster. 94.0.29.239 16:13, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Appearance in Tactics?
I'm almost certain that there was a recruitable Ghoul in Tactics named Harold- they don't elaborate on him much, but he does have perks and traits to suggest that he has a fruit-bearing tree growing from his head. I'll give the game a quick run-through to see if this is the case.--Kajex Firedrake 12:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That's not Harold, it's only a reference. That Furry Bastard 12:24, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's a Harold, but not THE Harold. See: Harold (Fallout Tactics). Ausir(talk) 16:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC) ~

Choking
Why does he always sound like he's choking on something when he talks? Is it some kind of effect on his throat from the FEV?

he does mention his organs are all over the place, so just imagine where his lungs are at this point. JerichoRCDF 20:50, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Harold and the Treeminders
Harold's affiliation should be changed. He is not affiliated with the Treeminders, but the Treeminders are affiliated with him, as he says during the quest something along the lines of him not like the crazies worshipping him

Harold's Reaction for using Sap/Liniment
"Harold, finding a new reason to live, replies that he was selfish to want to kill himself, and then asks Herbert/Bob if he agrees. "

I think this sentence should be clarified more. I know I'm not the only one who got the impression that what he says to you about "being selfish" and "I guess they really need me" was more or less just him accepting his fate. How he really felt was kind of left ambiguous as he shows neither happiness or anger. Also, this is truly nitpicky of me, but while I'm here I might as well point out that he asks Bob about giving the Treeminders another chance, not about whether it was selfish to kill himself.

Anyways, does anyone else feel the same way? I wouldn't want to attempt rewriting it otherwise, even if it is just one sentence.76.114.198.95 14:55, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I feel the same way but with a slight twist. From the expression of his voice, and from general implied meaning, he is also asking Bob if hes(Harold) making the right choice. The way I heard it, hes basically discussing with bob the events and trying to make a judgement call. JerichoRCDF 20:53, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

One of the few?
Who are the others who appear in Fallouts 1, 2, & 3? I don't think there are any. 98.247.168.203 06:54, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * Are there any others? You have organisations like Enclave and BoS but I think this is the only specific character that appears in all three. Given the time line between the games only a Ghoul would live that long.--A Pickering 22:35, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Supermutants like Marcus are biologically immortal, so they might also still be alive. However, only Harold has appeared in all of the official Fallout games. ... Well, Vault Boy counts, I guess. Nitty Tok. 23:09, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

cause
purely speculation, but is it possible that bob came about as a seed in Harold's hair, and was mutated by the FEV that he was knocked into, and the FEV caused rapid growth and intelligence within bob? what do you think?
 * We would have seen it in Fallout 1. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/4/4a/Naglowaa_se.gif/11px-Naglowaa_se.gif Tagaziel (call!) 18:30, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

seen it how? I haven't played fallout one but is the vault dweller one of the explorers with Harold?


 * In Fallout 1 the Vaultdweller meets with Harold to discuss the deathclaw and (optionally) to hear the stroy of how he became ghoul-ish in appearance. To answer your initial quiery, it's possible. In the abandoned sequels to Fallout Tactics and Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel the FEV mutates plants in such a way that they evolve animalian-type behaviours. Not to mention those funny looking venus flytraps in Haikunin's garden in Fallout 2, but they could possibly be the result of some really bad magic shrooms Haikunin was cooking up. Anyway, it wouldn't be too out of the question for a seed, that falls into Harold's FEV infected cranium somehow, to evolve in such a way so as to allow a symbiotic relationship with a human brain. The cells of animalia and plantae share enough similarities after all. I think it's certainly worth considering. Subject 618 20:59, April 13, 2010 (UTC)