Forum:NCR Rep: From Idolized to Vilified After One Quest

So I've always had a good rep with the NCR. Never did anything to decrease my rep with them. I've been Idolized through most of the game. Until I installed the override chip in the Eldorado Substation. Then my rep went from Idolized to instantly Vilified! I was even wearing NCR armor. Would it help at all if I left my companions outside, used a stealth boy, and sneaked inside to install the chip? How can I help at Hoover Dam if the NCR shoots me on sight?! D3fiant80 03:57, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm... well when I've installed the over-ride for YesMan & Mr.House, I used a stealthboy and was dressed in NCR armour. I also lucked it as when I entered the substation, no one was inside. All the NCR troopers had exited the building thus allowing me unhindered access. My Sneak was 100, I used a magazine [Il Fantoma] too if that's any help? Personally I think going from idolised to villified is way too easy. One event and all the good work you've done for the NCR is suddenly gone? o.0 Pretty harsh judge of character don't you think?

Captain Taipan 07:09, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Diverting all the power from NRC areas to the strip seems worthy of loosing all your rep with them if you ask me. You are warned NOT to enter when you go there. You can't stab someone in the back and expect them to still have any respect for you afterward. It seems a bit silly that anyone would think otherwise. ReapTheChaos 08:22, June 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think the point I failed to make is that if your using a stealth boy, sneaking, in disguise [full NCR ranger gear] and no one was inside to actually see the courier insert the over-ride, then it makes little logical sense to me at least that you lose reputation for this act. Sure if you waltz in bold as brass with your face plain as day for all to see, no problem they've got you but in disguise, practically invisible? That's a real stretch IMO. I'm all for owning the consequences of your actions but I get annoyed when they can suddenly have omnipotent knowledge that it was the courier who dunnit! [rolls eyes] Captain Taipan 01:36, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well if your did all that and you lost reputation then you simply had a glitch, or you weren't as hidden as you thought. ReapTheChaos 18:48, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

I suppose it's fair enough. This whole "Reputation" thing is a pain in the ass anyway. But to answer my own question, using a stealth boy, I sneaked in while the NCR troops were sleeping and installed the chip unnoticed. I still gained infamy, but maintained my Idolized status. D3fiant80 20:32, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * This whole "Reputation" thing is a pain in the ass anyway. Yeah, you can't do whatever you want without owning the consequences for it, isn't? ;) Brfritos 20:00, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, if it was as simple as that. But it's far from simple in the game. D3fiant80 03:57, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

In my opinion this game should have more consequences for your actions. I would also like to see karma play a larger role in in the game. Not only that but more of the things you do should have an affect on your game as well. One example I’ve always had a problem with is stealing. Now if I pickpocket something from someone I lose karma, albeit very little but I still lose it. However I can simply kill the person and take the item and as far as the game is concerned that’s perfectly alright.

Another good example would be digging up a grave for some random loot. Now I don’t know about anyone else, but in my opinion grave robbing is a serious offence. Not only is it a crime but there should be a serious karma penalty for doing it.

On the other hand I’ve never understood why taking something from a trash can is stealing. If I throw something in the trash I could honestly give a damn if someone else takes it and in some cases its not even a crime to do so.

Anyway, I don’t think anyone can reasonable say the game is to harsh when it comes to the repercussions of your actions, and in many ways it should be more so. If you want to play the game acting like a miserable rotten SOB, thats perfectly fine but the game should treat you more like one. ReapTheChaos 18:52, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

I know not a lot of games don't do this but I wish you're actions didn't immediately effect you're overall reputation. As if it had to go through the proper channels by word of mouth. Example a Kings Gang member sees you picking on the nicest fella Grecks and I guess for the example murdering him. The gang member takes off for the Kings School and once he gets there your reputation is changed. (except maybe the NCR or they have walkie talkie technology) When I play a homicidal bastard I like to take no prisoners and leave no witnesses! But I also like to look my victims in the eyes so even though I'll clear a whole area of npcs right when I kill the last mook my reputation is permenatly changed.Cpanda 02:19, June 26, 2011 (UTC)