Talk:Nathaniel Vargas

Does anyone know if Nathan still shows at Raven Rock even if the player blows up Megaton prior to being captured by Enclave?

fubarmonkey 00:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I found Nathan alive at Raven Rock in Cell 3 (next to the one you start in after being captured), when you talk to him he just says "They're not who they say they are, get out while you can, before they get you too!". It is possible the death mentioned in the article was just a bug. 86.21.143.116 22:57, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Nathan's deaths mentioned in the article aren't exactly true. The first was probably a bug. For the second, he was likely just killed before the PC got to him. When the Vault Dweller is captures Nathan is also at Raven Rock. It seems that when Autumn sics the Enclave on you Nathan tries to flee. Enclave soldiers will more than likely kill him before you see him, but it's possible to talk to him before he dies.

Nathan died in my first game, right after Blood Ties, and in that game I got the Family to leave Arefu alone. In my second, I got the Family to protect Arefu in exchange for blood packets, and I found Lucas Simms dead in the exact same spot. I am going to try a third game and choose to attack the Family and see what happens.

I ever explroed Raven rock to much, and as such never found him. however, he's still alive and well in megaton for me, and makes no reference to the enclave other then his usual ramblings. DragonJTS 02:37, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I've completed the Finding the Garden of Eden quest and Nathan was there saying that stuff about enclave, then I bumped in to Nathan in Megaton and he was saying the same stuff as before he was captured! So either him being in megaton after is a bug (and he should be dead buried in the base), or his chat after is a bug (and hes meant to say new things).. Jozor 12:35, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

The article mentions him being dead in Megaton and an "assassin" BoS running from the scene. I think this is more likely the generic paladin sidekick of Paladin Hoss that seems to randomly show up in your house or wherever really(incl. Evergreen Mills???lol). He likes to show up, take the best gun in the area, then hightail it across the wasteland to god-knows-where. Nathan probably died from a glitch or falling and then "sidekick" shows up to take his gun and run. --7h1s 11:39, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I haven't seen his last name ("Vargas") in-game, but if it is then it could be a reference to Snake Vargas, one of the default player characters in Wasteland. --98.225.23.78 06:06, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm having the same experience as Jozor. Saw Nathan at Raven Rock screaming "they're not who they say they are" and after The American Dream he's back in Megaton spewing orignal, Enclave-loving dialogue. Either a case of dementia or a bug. 76.182.236.169 21:34, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Vargas?
I haven't been able to find any reference to Nathan's last name in the game, anyone know where this is confirmed? Further, there is a Paladin Vargas, who is a member of the Lyon's Pride unit of the BoS, any relation between the two? Dylnuge 05:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

My experiences with him
(Im on the PC)

I used the moveto command to check on Nathan at various points during the American Dream quest and i found this :

1) He is teleported to Megaton after entering the Control Room 2) He dissapears from the game if you command Eden to destroy Raven Rock, this occurs when you open the door to the Capital Wasteland 3) If you dont destroy Raven Rock, he will be alive and you can engage in conversations like normal but he will always say 'Get out of here!' after them.

Can anyone confirm if that old fool dissapears from the game if you tell Eden to destroy Raven rock? or is my game bugged. 190.232.254.4 00:28, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Enclave clone?
So, the only thing that Megaton Nathan does is spew Enclave propaganda, much to the annoyance of his wife. I assume he wasn't always like this, or they probably wouldn't have married. Raven Rock Nathan knows the true face of the Enclave, and tells you to get away while you can. After blowing up Raven Rock (which would probably kill Nathan), he's still in Megaton spewing the same Enclave Propaganda. So, maybe Nathan was kidnapped before you ever came to Megaton, and the Nathan you see there is an Enclave clone, while the real Nathan is being held at Raven Rock. Just a thought.
 * Probably not. It's more likely an oversight by the developers. 98.198.83.12 08:38, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought he disappeared from the game after Raven Rock. I know I've never seen him afterward. -- 22:56, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

WOULDN'T it have been fantastic if Nathan became a temporary fellower in Raven Rock, ala Motherhip Zeta's Somah, Elliot, Paulson, etc... he wouldv'e made an awesome shot with the Plasma Pistol!

The clone idea WOULD explain why the officer outside the Jefferson Memorial(still friendly if you glitch past the forcefield before the last mission in the original FO3), looks almost exactly like Nathan(just in an officer uniform and hat). That or Nathan has a twin brother in the enclave. JerichoRCDF 18:29, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

"They're not who they say they are!" I think Nathan doesn't believe it's the Enclave who kidnapped him. That explains why he's their preacher afterwards. --Wierdperson31 22:53, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Possibly Bugs
In the possibly bugs section, it states that Nathan can die from standing in the water near the bomb, much like Cromwell can. I was under the assumption that NPCs are immune to radioacivity. So how is this possible? AzureSN 03:02, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Thanks.--Gothemasticator 05:12, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Officer Vargas
Can someone post a picture of the Enclave Officer Identical to Nathan? Please and Thank you! 98.151.125.19 21:07, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Nathan randomly enemie
So i walked into the doctors office, had a five minuet chat with the doctor, and when i get out, for some reason, nathan randomly starts attacking me. I have not stolen from him, and I just disarmed the bomb. Any thoughts how to solve this, becuase I had just leveled?