Forum:The City of Vegas

Well I hate to make anyone disappointed but there want be any vehicles in this game. I know this by Bethesda Softworks Forums, according from a guy on there he posted this:

PC Gamer magazine article I read about an interview with Sawyer.

I have argued how awesome it would be, and realistically possible, to have motorcycles (nothing else, just the motorcycles, you can't go ANYWHERE with a car in that terrain). But since people who whine and say things like "But its not canon and would make fast-travel useless, [insert stupid illogical reason]", I've basically given up the argument. Motorcycles of the 50's era (which are all over the place in F3) were made to be able to traverse rough landscapes like steep hills, shallow streams, rocky grounds. It'd be perfect for Nevada's terrain.

And that way, we could go back to the good ol' Morrowind days and do away with fast travel and make traveling more fun, thereby increasing immersion. --Jack Conner 12:15, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

I also heard that they might have operating motorcycles in this one, and we are going to see motorcycle gangs you fight. I would like that, because at least it brings more of a change in the game style where you don't have to walk like 10 miles to one place to another. And a course there will be the quick travel, but I still want to see some kinda of vehicle you can drive. Oh and it will be still in the 50's I thought it was more the 50's era style? You got to realize this game takes place in some kinda of far future world. I've always been interested in if this game has anything to do with our reality, and maybe a diffident one. Like there is no such thing called "Virgo II Lunar Lander" to quote from The Vault page here....it says:

The Virgo II mission is the Fallout world's counterpart to the real world's Apollo 11. The date given for the Virgo II landing is the launch date for Apollo 11, four days before the latter landed on the Moon.

The craft itself greatly resembles the LK lunar lander of the real-world's ultimately unsuccessful Soviet lunar landing program.

Hmm gets me thinking, what reality is this?

--Jack Conner 00:13, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

The cars idea sounds awesome because if you wanted to really feel the experience of fallout 3 you would walk from one destination to the other and that would take some time and seeing all those cars lieing around really made me want to drive along the roads. Im hoping New Vegas introuduces vechiles, With the inclusion of a powered city you would think that they have fixed some vechiles also. Maybe it's just wishful thinking but i would like to see this.

From the trailer it looks as most of Vegas made it though the fallout, most of the city is lit up. One of me my bros thoughts were possibly when the nuke fell, and because of the crater around the city, protected it. What are your thoughts on this? And since the city is very much intact, what do we think is in plan for Vegas while traveling the city? Will we see cars still operating, people still about the city...will it be like a city in Escape from LA lol. Jack Conner 21:35, February 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * From what I have heard so far Vegas is still in reasonably good shape because the bombs didn't drop close enough t it to do serious damage as it did to the other major cities. The fallout and such still messed it up badly though. Nothing about the surrounding mountains or a crater having any effect on this outcome. As for the power, Boulder Dam is rumored to still be active and giving NV it's power. I feel a major quest coming for this if it's true. Maybe a DLC. I doubt there will be any cars still working, so it looks like we'll be walking again.


 * Cpt. E. Blackadder 20:55, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

To be Honest, I doubt there will be very few cars, if not any, considering Gas cost $8,000 a gallon before the nukes dropped, and those hovering-type cars are a rarity at most. People in the city is most likely 99.9% going to happen. Considering it's a settlement, and many settlements in Fallout contain populance. My two sense. Fallout3Maniac 22:10, February 10, 2010 (UTC)Fallout3Maniac
 * Where did you see hover cars? Nitty Tok. 22:12, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Well, A example would be right after you leave the vault in Fallout 3. Just go down that little slope, to the road, and look to the left. I believe theres two.. three hover-type cars. Now, Fallout 3 is a own seperate story by itself, so Hover-cars might of never existed. Fallout3Maniac 22:17, February 10, 2010 (UTC)Fallout3Maniac
 * Those are Chryslus Corvegas. They have wheels. The tires have rotted, or whatever tires do. Nitty Tok. 22:19, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, well my bad. Thanks for clarifying Nitty ;) Fallout3Maniac 22:23, February 10, 2010 (UTC)Fallout3Maniac

I'm more interested in if it's a golden age Las Vegas, or a modern Las Vegas. It would be much more fun as a modern Vegas because the exploring would be excellent, but in staying with the storyline of the series a fifties or early sixties era Vegas would most likely be used. [[User:Portfan|Portfan 19:57, February 13, 2010 (UTC)]]

Well if the nuke was in a 1,000 km radius of New Vagas. the radiation would still mess everything up. ___ The Chosen One


 * True. But considering they have a testing ground for nukes in thier own back yard, would it effect them that much? I'm thinking of what the nearby explosion would be like really. Look up Pepcon explosion on youtube. Something like that I'd think Cpt. E. Blackadder 10:11, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, they should add motorcycles. Also take note that Little Lamplight's main gate uses a (seemingly) functional motorcycle to open it. Trucks would make sense, as well. As long as you can't freakin' instantly switch between the driver's seat and the truck bed, that'd be sweet. Really, it's a wonder that the BOS has soldiers just walking around everywhere with all their fancy technology. Nuka Kulcha 03:07, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Because all of the machine parts are obviously A-OK after 203 years with no repairs. And the oil that makes a gas engine go? Or the delicate microfibers that supply power from the reactor? Nitty Tok. 03:10, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Well, flamer fuel is a flammable liquid. A diesel engine is known to be able to burn any such liquid. Also, there's references in FO3 for the use of cooking     oils, so I can easily see a diesel engine fueled by either flamer fuel and/or veggie oil as fitting into the Fallout universe(It's not gasoline powered, after all), practical and relatively reliable. The only issue would arise when servicing the internal components of the engine, which realistically would be either the Enclave or Brotherhood's job as they'd be the only factions with the type of machining abilities needed to manufacture the parts. As for the trucks, well, look at it this way. The Brotherhood was able to commandeer a Vertibird, which is nuclear powered, and they built a Tesla Cannon. I think they have the expertise and tooling to restore at least one or two of those old US Military trucks to a somewhat functional status, at least functional enough to cart a crate or two of ammo from the Citadel to the car tunnel. To top it off, I highly doubt the ability to synthesize gasoline is lost upon the world, as that knowledge was known before the Fallout timeline diverged from ours. The Enclave would likely be quite privy to this knowledge(And may be using it to manufacture their flamer fuel, who knows).TestECull 07:42, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Well, the engine parts might as well be ok since I think that after 203 years all those cars would realistically be piles of rust anyway. Knight Captain Ski (talk) 03:20, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

On vehicles, I would kill for a good motorbike. Many attempts have been made to place a working vehicle in Fallout 3(The only really good one is a hoverchair, the car/bike ones have animation issues and Enclave Commander is basically fast travel disguised as a vertibird), but few have seen any sort of success. Maybe an option in the main menu that toggles between using a motorbike or using fast travel? As far as making it fit into the universe, I would go for a small single cylinder diesel engine. Diesel engines in real life are known for being able to run on damn near any flammable fluid you feed them, and indeed the first diesel engine ever built ran on veggie oil(And was built in the late 1800's, so this fact would still stand in the divergent timeline the games are set in), so it's perfectly plausible for such a motorbike to be fuelable with materials available in the wasteland. Commandeered flamer fuel would be one likely candidate, as would cooking oil(which can be made from pretty much any seed, really). I suppose, in a pinch, one could pour some whiskey into the tank, but then why waste booze? :P .TestECull 07:42, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think I saw somewhere on here its already been confirmed that there won't be any vehicles. Knight Captain Ski (talk) 18:06, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

As a fallout lover i've played tactics ( good game ). So They have hummers, tanks and trucks. Really why would only like the midwestern B.O.S. have trucks/cars? But as a fan of big guns I would love to have a tank in the desert firing tank shells at bandits/raiders. As a funny thought have a mountain bike/tricycle (<--- LOL) Killerpope 01:00, April 20, 2010 (UTC)