User talk:Gothemasticator/Archive 2

==Talk page archive #1 Talk page archive #2== Gothemasticator

ok
I'll change it for you. Shadowrunner56 03:26, May 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * probably should've changed it first before leaving a message. Shadowrunner56 03:26, May 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Which reminds me. How much is too much when it comes to unacceptable usernames? I mean, User:PoopskinTheLiar hasn't been told off, whereas the user called "LamplightPedo" was (for fairly obvious reasons). Did we decide on just sexual-related usernames? Nitty Tok. 03:27, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

De Facto
Does it really matter what I said as long as the meaning gets across? :P Nitty Tok. 03:48, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I just finished Asimov's Foundation novels, 'm reading A Thousand Splendid Suns before Metro 2033 (the book) arrives in the mail from Ebay. Nitty Tok. 03:57, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Porter's at the 50,000 edit mark. I think that makes him cooler. (And/or the one of us who has the most time on his hands. ;D)
 * Ending to Foundation and Earth was terrible, though. I hate when the author dies! Finish the book! Nitty Tok. 04:04, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

It is indeed a new rifle. I found the screenshot on kotaku's New Vegas preview.

Gary 0 20:41, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments
Now that I'm a formal participant in the NPC project, and have been granted a bot account, I might as well make a suitable contribution since I have the tools and capability. As to that revolving IP vandal, you had handled him in a reasonable manner, but this was not returned - he needed to be put straight. Good to see back :) 12:38, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re: M1
I took some time to make you a picture detailing some differences between the two weapons



Gary 0 04:25, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

I forgot to mention I found the gun in a screenshot from the Kotaku preview.

Gary 0 04:35, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for listening. I'm off to create that page again.

Gary 0 05:07, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up.

Gary 0 05:48, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

NPC project
I'm planning to help out more with the NPC project in the near future; I'll just push the Document conversion project to completion first. We have too many concurrent projects considering our number of active project participants, and we really need to wrap some up. Just to let you know you're not alone ;) -- Porter21 (talk) 17:33, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Seems like you left me a message while I was writing the above :P Yeah, I do remember that conversation (it's one of those 3 bazillion things floating around in the back of my head - I swear I'll go crazy one day) and making those adjustments is no problem. I'll have the bot start in around 10 minutes, should be finished in an hour or two. Just a small question out of curiosity: Where are you going to put the non-quest interactions like random encounters etc (unless of course you just want the "Other interactions" section removed purely because the vast majority of articles don't need it)? -- Porter21 (talk) 17:43, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fair enough - I'll leave it up to you :) -- Porter21 (talk) 17:50, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Bot is working on the interactions sub-sections. It won't remove instances of "Other interactions" where the section has been filled out; I think it's easier to notice where stuff needs to rewritten this way. -- Porter21 (talk) 18:16, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Finished. -- Porter21 (talk) 19:27, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks good for the most part, there are just a few little things I'd change.
 * For one, the summary for each quest should primarily describe the character's role in the quest in my opinion, not necessarily the quest itself (you can see that in the example; the description of "Replicated Man" describes Moira's role rather than the quest itself). I'd also mention that random encounters should go into this section, maybe with a little reminder that there's a redirect for each encounter's name as given on Fallout 3 random encounters (for easier linking of individual encounters).
 * I think that the description for "Effects" might need a bit of a rewrite. Basically the section was intended for describing the effects of player actions on the character itself. To use the given example, while Moira is the questgiver for The Wasteland Survival Guide, only dissuading her from writing the book has an effect on Moira herself (increased repair abilities), hence only that is mentioned (and not e.g. the various rewards she gives to the player). As another example, she doesn't really play any role in The Power of the Atom, but blowing Megaton up makes her turn into a ghoul and migrate to Rivet City/Underworld, hence that is mentioned in this section (and not "Quests"). Or to use another example, killing Moriarty makes Gob the owner of his saloon, hence that would be mentioned in the "Effects" section of Gob's article. -- Porter21 (talk) 19:56, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

No problem :) It may take a little while occasionally, but I tend to keep my promises. -- Porter21 (talk) 19:45, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Although I'd rather not stir up the whole interactions layout thing, I can't help wondering whether it wouldn't be better to rename "Quests" to "Quests and encounters". Listing encounters under "Quests" seems a little misleading. What do you think? -- Porter21 (talk) 07:32, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I suppose something like "More Than Just Scrap (random encounter):" could work. -- Porter21 (talk) 08:03, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Is there some kind of system to which articles you're choosing for overhaul? Just asking so we don't get in each other's way :) I'm planning on adapting the interactions sections of articles which were marked as complete prior to the interactions overhaul. -- Porter21 (talk) 08:27, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * I figured it was only fair to help undo the mess I created ;) -- Porter21 (talk) 08:38, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Nathan Vargas- you don't agree with my reference?
Hello there,

I was just wondering why you edited out note that I added about Nathan possibly being a reference to Nathan Holn of The Postman. Do you disagree? If so, then why? Have you even read The Postman?

Just hear me out
Alright thats fine, I'll try to make my counter argument short and sweet so read it but you don't need to heed it: A lot of Fallout 3's names and characters are crude or obvious references to names and characters in other movies/books/real people. Now knowing this, it is a large coincidence that there is a man named Nathan who in FO3 is a avid supporter of a group of elitist murderers, and Nathan in The Postman "created" (therefore he must also support right?) a group of elitist murderers, Both of these happening in post apocalyptic worlds. In my note I said "may be a reference." there's no harm in saying that its a possibility right? Like I said, its your call and if you say no then that's fine, I meant no disrespect. U710 20:36, May 5, 2010 (UTC)U710

A Dead Planet
Yes, I'm actually in the process of writing it. I've been working on it for around 5-7 months, and I even made the book cover myself (with the help of others). I'm glad you noticed :). Nukey - (Speak to me!!!) 20:32, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Oops
About the removal of content. I was trying to remove stuff from my page but some how ended up deleting that other stuff. I have no clue how it happened and I apoligize. I'll be more careful next time. God damn ghouls 21:58, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

You should look into the Postman
Hi there, me again (this is U710, i had to briefly make another account because of password trouble, but U719 is my real account)

So I just finished ''The Postman and it seems that it has some very big similarities with Fallout. For one, this elitist group of killers (that are like mercenaries) I mentioned before refer to themselves as the "American Liberation Army," claiming that the exist for the good of the people, Just like the Enclave and how they refer to themselves as the true "United States of America." This ALA is also at war with an unknown faction hailing from California. The only information we encounter in the story is that the main character finds a dead soldier with a uniform that has a patch with the flag of the California Republic on it (the book ends with the protagonist setting off for California to find out more about this mysterious group.) This is too similar to the New California Republic and the Enclave of the fallout Universe to be dismissed, and I just wanted to point that out. The book was published in 1985, perfect timing to be one of many inspirations for the idea of Fallout. Again, I'm not trying to "outsmart" you in any way, I just want to know what you think if this. Thanks! U719 18:43, May 9, 2010 (UTC)U719 ''

How do I delete my project?
As you said, I shouldnt start the Trivia project as you do that anyway. But how do I get rid of it? Do the admins do that for us? I should probably join an overhaul project.GatlingBrahmin 20:31, May 11, 2010 (UTC)GatlingBrahmin

Talk page archives incorrectly listed on Followed page
Well, it could either be a bug with the script or a bug with Special:Following. Do you get the same incorrect pages listed on Special:Watchlist? By the way, I can't see your followed pages as you've hidden them from public view :) -- Porter21 (talk) 07:02, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Seems like it's definitely a bug with Special:Following. I just noticed that the same happens with blogs you're watching; instead of (for example) "User blog:Ausir/Some news item" they are listed as red links to "User blog:Some news item". Apparently there's a bug in the code which disassembles the raw page name and puts it back together for display on the page. Nothing I can do about that unfortunately; you could however report the bug at the announcement blog where it should catch the attention of Wikia staff. -- Porter21 (talk) 07:17, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yes
Yes, I'd be glad to become the leader. Nukey - talk 14:40, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Quest Project
I did notice that Vault4 hasn't persay "come back" from his internet being down. Anyway, does the quest project have any unified layout yet for each quest? Ghouly89 (Talk) 17:36, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Signature
Don't worry, the picture is separate from my sig, I just added it to bring life to his talk page. I felt hopeful I could convince him to create an account if I took the extra minute to add it. :D


 * By the way, do you think an admin should or shouldn't add music or videos that show his/her personal interests in things besides Fallout? :P I am refering to whether or not I should have a page like this: User:Ghouly89/Entertainment. What do you think? Ghouly89 (Talk)07:03, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I wasn't thinking as much of my status, but more of how I would be revered in the general community if people saw what I like to do outside of Fallout-related things. Thanks for the input. Anyway, I hope we have the same interests, I guess you can see by checking on the page every so often. Cheers, and goodnight (I'm pretty damn tired) Ghouly89 (Talk) 07:22, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * He has a life that extends beyond Fallout??? Revoke his admin privileges immediately! :P :D 09:16, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks.
I appreciate your advice. Thanks. :). Nukey - talk 19:53, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Grego
I've sourced it, but I suppose you should be the one to explain it to the anon. Nitty Tok. 21:53, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Opinion needed
What do you think about the current look of Docparam? Does it help make things clearer, or is it too "obtrusive) )? -- Porter21 (talk) 22:00, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess my basic question is whether a documentation like on gamearticle is easier to understand than the one on docparam, purely from a layout standpoint. I sometimes have a tendency to go a little overboard with adding fancy things and need a reality check ;) -- Porter21 (talk) 22:13, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I usually add examples to most template docs. I haven't added any to "docparam" yet because it's still "in flux" and I can't be bothered to alter the examples each time I alter the template ;) I think the colored stars work better than the method of appending "(optional)", I'm just a little unsure whether the background & border makes the page look crowded. For comparison, I've reverted "docparam" back to not using background & borders, so if you could take another look it'd be appreciated. Just trying to make sure the template docs are as understandable as possible. -- Porter21 (talk) 22:38, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Where I've been
I've been here it's just we havn't had may vandals to undo or block so it seems like I havn't been here, when new vegas comes out chances are loads will come, but at the moment preety queit. - RASICTalk 11:07, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Greg
Shouldn't it say that the game guide says he might be? that guy who likes to use the tesla cannon 18:18, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Hi I'm karensarahrocks KSR for shorts :o
Hi im KSR i'm a editor over at Dead Rising Wiki It's fun there even though it's like 8 people....Well anyways,I have Fallout 3 ive played through it so many times....so many,many,many,many*tear* times....lol jk but i have played through it allot and i wanna try to help edit the wiki :D If ish ok. LOLs :B 05:15, May 20, 2010 (UTC)Karensarahrocks

Re:Quality Images
Thanks, Goth. You responded quickly there, are you my guardian angel or something ;)? The irony is, I think I found this page once, but at that time, I wan't in need of any modding tools. Oh well. Say, this is off-topic, but can you check the character articles Harry and Aradesh for me? I would like to know what you think about the collapsible tables for "Tell Me About" words... Thanks, Ghouly89 (Talk)06:59, May 20, 2010 (UTC):

Thanks. And I don't suppose that know wxactly which tool I am looking for? :D Oh well, if you do know, give me a shout tomorrow. If not, I can still turn to the infinite wisdom of the NMA community for help. Cheers -- Ghouly89 (Talk) 07:07, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Jingwei
You know, that addition is a compliment to me, since I wrote the Emperor's backstory entries for the RP. If someone thought they were real, well, that means they're indistinguishable from the rest of the game and that's more than I expected to get in terms of recognition :) http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 07:11, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Well, that explains a lot. I figured that they were from the Restoration Patch, and I double-checked the Emperor's dialogue file on the Vault to make sure, but I hadn't spoken to the Emperor in a while, so I wasn't sure - MaulYoda 23:17, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lorri
Instead of leaving a redirect behind, I changed all the existing links from "Lori" to "Lorri". I prefer to do that. ;) Ghouly89 (Talk)01:46, May 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * If you viewed the "Lori" article's "What links here" page, then you might have reason to bring back the redirect. However, what you do not know is that all the pages there only include a link to "Lori" because they have a transclusion of . I have also changed the link on the template to the correct "Lorri"; the only reason it still shows on the "What links here" is because the Template's data has not recached yet. So, I will delete the redirect you made for this reason. -- Ghouly89 (Talk)01:55, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Damn, is it too late to rip off Google's idea of a "Did You Mean so-and-so" option? Joking, but seriously, if you feel it is a neccessary redirect, I will restore the page. Ghouly89 (Talk) 05:40, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

Ozzy
Somebody make it stop! --Kingclyde 06:26, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

Allen Mack
Could you please explain why you deleted my note on Allen Mack? Obviously, his saying, "Good riddance" is a canned response that many npcs use, but I still thought it was humorous when he used it in regards to his own wife.

I suppose that my comment should have been under a trivia category, but honestly, it makes a person feel like there's no point in editing the wiki when someone immediately comes along and removes the info without any reason given.

Windblown79 15:29, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for replying, I understand now. Please understand that I am not a vandal and I was not trying to vandalize the page.

Tabby
Would it be possible to use transgender pronouns to refer to hir? :P Nitty Tok. 18:12, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm actually pretty serious about the question, though. Nitty Tok. 18:21, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't understand big block of texts >.< Nitty Tok. 18:47, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Like Grizzly says. The pictures are informative enough.
 * But I thought that the devs specifically said that Tabby was a 'he'. Which is why I asked in the first place. Nitty Tok. 18:53, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think Ausir knows. Nitty Tok. 18:57, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think Ausir knows. Nitty Tok. 18:57, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

weapons
Because the ones who put it there won't let it go. You can remove them, just grab your flame shield. Nitty Tok. 18:55, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good luck. :P Nitty Tok. 18:57, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry, I had forgotten that I was looking at the archive of the talk page, and not the current one. Deadlykris 19:33, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Archived Pages
Sorry about that, I don't even recall which page it was. I'll look into what archived pages are.Brightshade782 23:34, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Further warning
hay im glad you came to me in a respectful maner even thow you are a admin (some admins that have talked to me have talked to me have been rude and just dawn right insulting, like this Grizzly dude). i did apologize to Grizzly(check his talk page its under gammer) for saying what i said (i do fill that he took it the rong way and just over reacted) but thats just how i think and i have a right to think that, do i not? :). I have been working at my grammer becouse i think its only right for me to do. ok but here is were you block me becouse you will probly not like what im about to say. I fill that my blocking was a over reactin to a little advise i gave Grizzly, see i fill that even if he is a admin he has gon over the line on some things like being rude to others on this site,and bashing on what people think. I know he can do what ever he wants i would just like you to say that to him because i think it might just sink in if some one ells told him. o and i just have one more thing, you got something rong in your post on my talk page you said " This is rude, and continued refusal to post coherently will eventually be counted as insulting other editors" and it is a rong that you say refusal ( if your talking about all the times i definded my self then you are useing that word rong) becouse i have been working on hit (im dyslexic and im a shity typer so ya im geting beter) agen think you for being so nice and respectful and you sould teach some of the other admins how to do that to other users (cuz thay need help)

MrDot01 19:23, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Removal of edit
while i can understand the reasoning behind why one should not remove the edits of another person on a talk page, in due fairness, the edit i removed provided downright false information, with the intent of confusing other users of this wiki, and i do not think we should admit this sort of behavior even in the talk page. the only exception to this would probably be the somewhat ludicrous and unusual ravings provided for us by fat man spoon, mostly because he is an administraitor, but also parcially because he presents such material in a maner that is clearly ment for entertainment only, which is exactly what it does. im am begining to rant a bit, and would soon be off-topic, so i digress, and i will not tamper with the edits of others on the talk page further, but the least you could have done when you reverted my edit was to add a note to tell people that the poster was lieing.Katikar 13:43, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Locations don't have factions
Then why is the faction parameter programmed into the infobox? Nitty Tok. 21:20, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's what it's meant to do. I guess that should be added to the Locations project! Nitty Tok. 21:31, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's listed as a required parameter for all location infoboxes. Apologies for the missing documentation; it seems like whoever added that parameter forgot to update the documentation, and I missed the error on my recent documentation cleanup spree as well. Updated. -- Porter21 (talk) 22:01, May 28, 2010 (UTC)