Forum:Caesar's Legion and new Tribals

Just another question, to see who might know. I was wondering, what happens to the tribes that are recently conquered by Caesar's Legion when it comes to their speech and language? What I mean is that, what if Caesar's Legion conquers a tribe like the Sorrows of the Dead Horses, who do not speak English but a pidgin language? It seems that all of the Legion members we encounter in the Mojave in Fallout: New Vegas (even the lower Legionnaires) seem to speak perfect and fluent English. Does the Legion bother trying to teach the new tribals English, in order for them to give and receive proper orders on the battlefield? Do they learn it on their own? Or is it just that the Legionnaires we encounter in Fallout: New Vegas where from tribes that already spoke English, like the Great Khans or the Boomers? Any guesses or evidence of what the Legion does in such a situation?

Rilery13 (talk) 20:17, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

I believe that the majority of the people in Legion territory, for the most part speak English and Spanish. (Because they are the pre-War languages.) As for the Legion itself, Caesar is raising them in his cult. They are indoctrinated from birth.--Ant2242 (talk) 21:12, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

As for "(even the lower Legionnaires) seem to speak perfect and fluent English." I have easy explain: simplification of the game. User:Languorous.Maiar/Stuff4 best quote about game logic. --Languorous_Maiar (talk) 15:14, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

It's a convention of the genre. The English the legionaries and wastelanders would probably be different from what we use now, but it's presented in that way for our convenience. Tagaziel (talk) 18:32, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

I doubt that Caesar would want his legion speaking a different language from himself.--Ant2242 (talk) 18:41, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

That makes a lot of sense, especially the "simplification of the game" part haha. I was just curious on what would happen to a tribe that spoke like the Sorrows when they were conquered, but this answers in nicely. Thank you.

Here's a separate question; how much conflict do you think the Legion has with the Brotherhood of Steel? Rilery13 (talk) 11:25, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

All relations beetwen Legion-BoS ends in this quote: Caesar: And Midwestern BOS fallen apart before Legion conquered Denver, but some interesting map made by me:. " https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zJbURYgksxE/UDTad1RRF1I/AAAAAAAAA5k/kiezposMc7A/s1026/Map.jpg In overall? I doubt there was anything more than capturing some scribes/knights and few small skirmishes beetwen both sides. --Languorous_Maiar (talk) 14:29, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Whoa nice map. How can you do that? I'm very interested. And yes I remember that quote. But how cannon is Fallout: Tactics, in your opinion? Personally, I haven't played it, but I know there are a few contradictions to the main cannon. According to Bethesda, the major parts of the game are cannon, but they haven't been very explicit with what they consider cannon. And there are a handful of references to the game (more specifically, the Midwestern BOS) in both New Vegas and Fallout 3, like that Caesar quote. But how cannon do you consider the game and its events? Rilery13 (talk) 19:10, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

What was said in FNV/F3 makes F:T canon. Basically, we can be almost sure that all plot/arc/story from F:T happened. The worst stuff, which don't have a chance to be a canon is: no retro-look, some weapons, maybe some armours, post-war OIL, maybe deathclaws. Look there : Eastern Brotherhood of Steel and read the story. Right now, F:T story makes perfect sense with such ending, according to both FNV and F3. --Languorous_Maiar (talk) 21:04, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Other than those few things (I remember seeing a list of inconsistencies of the Gamepedia), it does seem to be cannon, and I don't see why not. I am not very familiar with the game, but you seem to know a bunch about it. And they may have fallen apart before the Legion reached Denver, but they do exist as of 2277, but only as a "small detachment" in Chicago that is "off the radar", and have "gone rogue". So the remnants of the Eastern Brotherhood operate solely out of Chicago now, according to Scribe Rothchild (the Enclave does have outposts there, too), but also had members in Colorado, as in that quote above, the Legion has captured some of their scribes.

I'd definitely like to play the game, and I hope to see them in future Fallout games (I'm hoping to even hear news of future Fallout games), and if not, at least some references to them and their current status, and hopefully the full cannon story according to Bethesda now. Besides the now small rogue Chicago Chapter, the severely depleted Mojave Chapter, Lyon's Rogue Brotherhood, and that Montana Bunker, where else do you think the Brotherhood has established themselves? Of course, if they occupied one measly bunker all the way in Montana, they could be everywhere, but any specific places or cities do you think they set themselves up in? And what route do you think Lyon's expedition team took on their cross-country trek to D.C.? Rilery13 (talk) 21:42, 23 October 2014 (UTC)