Forum:Unification: 10mm SMG

After some consideration, I'd like to propose that we consider the 10mm SMG in Fallout 3 as the same model as the H&K MP-9 SMG from Fallout and Fallout 2. Why?


 * 1) The precedent was established by the Avenger minigun in New Vegas, confirmed to be the same weapon as in the original Fallout 2.
 * 2) The weapon has the same overall shape.
 * 3) It features an H&K-type trigger group (typical H&K firemode markings)

Thoughts? Tagaziel 08:32, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The Avenger the CZ57 is unique in FNV, the standard minigun in Fo3 & FNV is the earlyer CZ53, they may not look the same. Also its confermed to be the same due to development issues At this time, there are no such references for the Unnamed 10mm smg.--Ant2242 15:45, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Nor do they exist for the CZ-53. Ausir simply made a decision and I supported it. I simply suggest applying Occam's Razor to the 10mm SMG as well. Tagaziel 06:29, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Although this is a dispute speculation, if you believe this is the best for the lore, I will support you. Ant said "They look quite different."
 * Im referencing Forumspring.--Ant2242 19:13, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Remember some things has changed. One of ghouls in old Fallouts said they can't run, and what happened in Fallout 3? Improved graphics is our smallest problem with merging some things. --Languorous_Maiar 08:32, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * They don't really look quite different. They have the same basic shape, function, both lack a stock, are angular etc. The Fo1/Fo2 version is bulkier, but apart from that they're virtually identical. Tagaziel 09:19, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Are there any references to the H&K MP-9 SMG being the Unnamed 10mm smg? Like the CZ-57 is to the CZ-53 and I quote JSaywer "(only)...due to development issues."?--Ant2242 13:43, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Simple answer here, do what me and Ausir did to settle the CZ-57 dispute we had. Ask him on formspring. That is where the above question steamed from, asked by Ausir from a similar dispute as above. User avatar tag.gifUser Avatar talk.png 23:00, 8 August 2012 (UTC)