Talk:Nuka Breaker (GRA)

Giga... Nuka... BREAKEEEEEER! 200.96.104.44 00:53, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well... that was defiantly a helpful comment. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 01:35, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Either you get the reference or you don't. And it's "definitely", isn't it?

No I think he meant your comment was defiantLouisianaBob 00:04, September 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Still, either you get it or you don't, you didn't, it seems

Behind the scenes
Not sure if this is worth putting on the page but there is a very similar object that is used in episode three of the Fallout Nuka Break fan film. Frantruck 01:15, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

"unique rebar club"
"The Nuka-Breaker is essentially a unique Rebar Club," is what Sawyer says on his formspring--but it is an entirely different model and has an added effect when it crits... so, really not a rebar club at all, imo. My guess is that he just meant that it's a unique that fills the same role as the rebar club.--DeadlyPrey 02:22, September 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Agree, it's like the Bozar a unique light machine gun. Both are just based at first on the same 3D model. Itachou [~talk~] 12:51, September 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * I believe that's exactly what he meant by essentially. It's not a Rebar Club at all aesthetically, technically though, in the game files the Rebar Club was used as it's base to create this weapon and you can tell by the weapons... uh... numerical...? characteristics as well as it's file name in the GECK being "RebarClubUnique."

Not sure who's referencing who
In the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs9tYNaC088&feature=player_embedded#! 3 episode] of Fallout Nuka Break, the nuka breaker appears, but I'm not sure if the Wayside guys are referencing the weapon or the weapon is a reference to Nuka Break. Shadowrunner(stuff) 03:57, September 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's fan-made, it is not in the policy of The Vault to mention all fan-made videos referencing a weapon or something of Fallout.


 * Also, the Nuka Breaker idea was probably largely implemented before the episode 3 of Fallout Nuka Break. Itachou [~talk~] 12:48, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Add to Main Weapon List
Nuka Breaker (GRA) needs to be added to the New Vegas weapons list. --an0my(talk) 23:59, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Not a reference to the webseries
I sincerely doubt that the Nuka Breaker is named after or related to the webseries Nuka Break. In game adds can be seen advertising taking a nuka break so I really just think that was the slogan for Nuka Cola. Richie9999 07:36, October 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Some reasons for it's not a reference:


 * "Take a Break" is a common expression used worldwide - "Take a Nuka Break" is just an adaptation of this expression, and the name of the weapon was chosen for consistency with the expression used
 * The Nuka Breaker's idea was probably largely implemented before the webseries (create a DLC takes time, investment, organization, ideas etc.) and therefore before the episode 3 of the webseries, which they reference the Nuka Breaker and not the reverse
 * It's entirely speculative and the webseries is fan-made, it is not in the policy of The Vault to mention all fan-made videos referencing a weapon or something of Fallout


 * So from now, anyone that will write "it's a reference" without providing proof will be temporarily banned. Have a nice day! Itachou [~talk~] 13:36, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

|300px On the left is a screenshot from episode 3 of Nuka Break at 5:38. On the right is the picture of the weapon. Unless you have found an example of that exact sign in game somewhere, the episode pre-dates the DLC. This isn't just a question of a phrase, its the same shape, font, and general layout as the sign in game. It's also not hard to believe that the game devs would be watching a web-series based on their game, people typically love when fans base things off their work. This also isn't something that would be hard to model, its just a box on a stick, could have easily been made in under a day by a professional. ~Shadowcat


 * If Sprtel-Wood 9700 can refer to a strange obscure car crash or two, I don't see how the Nuka Breaker can't refer to a series that hasn't gotten a cease and desist from Bethesda. >.> Nitty Tok. 00:56, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Like I said, if you can provide a proof from the devs that the Nuka Breaker is a reference to the Nuka Break serie, I'm ok for add it on the page. If not, please don't put it on the page, it's just a bad speculation and we don't need that here.

Also, the reference of Sprtel-Wood 9700 was from Josh Sawyer ->, and not from a bad speculation.

In an additional note, we don't know when Gun Runners' Arsenal was developed and it was announced (so the development was finished sometime before) on August 25 with the first image was the Nuka Breaker, so the development began a long time before (for creation of the 3D models, the textures etc.). The Nuka Break episode 3 was released on September 26. It's the fan-made series﻿ that actually reference the game, not the other way around.

The ban is still in place, thanks to not turn The Vault into anything. Itachou [~talk~] 11:21, October 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * It might as well be a reference to this for all we know. I shall as Sawyer on Formspring and see if we can get a definitive answer. In the mean time, let's not add any references to this page. Hugs [[file:MadeMan2.png|20px|link=User:Scarface11235]] "Say 'ello to my little friend!"
 * Edit - just saw the comment reguarding post dates of the GRA preview and episode three. The screenshot did in fact predate the post date of episode three. This means that either the devs had someone on set who saw the sign, or the nuka break crew had that neon sign made after seeing the preview and then shot the scene, all in the month between the two dates. Both seem unlikely, so I sent a message asking the nuka break crew in addition to scarface asking Sawyer. ~Shadowcat
 * I'll admit that I had no idea when said screenshot was uploaded.
 * However, I will personally request your removal if you ban anyone over this, Itachou. That is outright admin abuse over something incredibly minor. Nitty Tok. 00:28, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Got a response from the Nuka Break crew. Do with it what you will.
 * In a recent trip to Obsidian, we were luck enough to find out the sign was a nod to us. But we put it in the episode as a nod to them, before we knew that. It's all a big circle of nodding. -Zack
 * ~Shadowcat

Source Shadowcat? We need a source for the article. Itachou [~talk~] 14:50, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * I copied and pasted the quote above from a youtube PM. It came directly from the WaysideCreations channel. I could screenshot it if you like, but there's no way to link to it. ~Shadowcat

Yeah if it was possible it would be appreciated (you can upload the screen here, I will take care of it). At least we can have a kind of proof with that =). Itachou [~talk~] 12:37, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * http://www.freeimagehosting.net/4fcea ~Shadowcat

So it was a reference. I knew it. Shadowrunner(stuff) 20:23, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

I still don't think that its a reference to the webseries. It came across to me as them assuming it was when they saw the sign, but I'm not gonna do anything with it unless we hear something different from JE Sawyer. The Phrase Nuka Break was around before the Webseries. It came out back in Fallout 3 I think with the Nuka Break posters, and I figure that's just a company slogan or some such. Richie9999 02:27, October 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Confirmed: -- FourWayDiablo (talk) 16:09, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * I was the one who asked that question, lol. Йура [[file:YuriKaslov - Sig image.gif|15px|link=User talk:YuriKaslov]] 19:16, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Perks
Is it uneffected by perks because none are listed as affecting its stats? Frantruck 20:31, October 9, 2011 (UTC)