Forum:Why do some some guns SUCK in vats?

Ever noticed, that some weapons, such as miniguns, gatling lasers flamers, and any sort of shot gun-like weapon don't do full damage in vats? I understand why the gauss rifle does, but what about these others?. Also, I notice that a flamer won't do the damage it says it will( on the health bar before you initiate the vats sequence), but for some reason it cripples limbs very quickly in vats. MoronicCinamun 15:05, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

BTW, sorry about the title, lol MoronicCinamun 15:07, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

True. I wondered why they all sucked too. I also noticed that the 10 mm pistol does MORE damage than it says it will. No it's not just critacal hits. Yum Brahmin 04:28, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Pistols (any type), single shot rifles (like hunting rifles) do best in VATS. Most big guns are bad in vats with the possble exception of the Tesla Cannon.Vault Master 09:32, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Tesla Cannon is an energy weapon, not a big gun, unlike the gatling laser. Kris (talk) 12:08, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hunting rifles don't do better in vats. Against Ghouls, Viciuos Dogs, and mole rats it has done less damage than it boasts. The minigun sucks in vats along with the flamer. The gatling laser however represents doing almost double its claimed damage. Shotguns sucking is probably because many pieces of the blast are strewn about. VATS is about statistics, and statistically at least one piece will miss. Yum Brahmin 17:00, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Most of the stock weapons suck to begin with. You have to get some heavy weapons in order to get something that could punch a hole in a cardboard box. VATS is only going to make the suckage worse, since it degrades them so much faster TestECull 02:04, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * @Yum Brahmin, where did your gatling laser do double damage? I just got through a fire fight against supermutants in murder pass, and my gatling laser did about half (or maby less) than the predicted damage in vats, even with the the +10% damage from my Yao Guai meat. I am playing the game on very hard, could make a difference? Most other weapons do full damage vats for me, though. There was one instance where it looked like It more damage,but then I realised it was Charron's that shotgun (I noticed the tracers) was hitting him at the same time.
 * Point Lookout at Dove Delta. My Laser was almost dead and VATS said it would half kill a Tracker so I let it try and it killed the bastard without saying critical hit. Maybe it forgot the message, I don't know. Yum Brahmin 19:21, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * @Yum Brahmin, where did your gatling laser do double damage? I just got through a fire fight against supermutants in murder pass, and my gatling laser did about half (or maby less) than the predicted damage in vats, even with the the +10% damage from my Yao Guai meat. I am playing the game on very hard, could make a difference? Most other weapons do full damage vats for me, though. There was one instance where it looked like It more damage,but then I realised it was Charron's that shotgun (I noticed the tracers) was hitting him at the same time.
 * Point Lookout at Dove Delta. My Laser was almost dead and VATS said it would half kill a Tracker so I let it try and it killed the bastard without saying critical hit. Maybe it forgot the message, I don't know. Yum Brahmin 19:21, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Point Lookout at Dove Delta. My Laser was almost dead and VATS said it would half kill a Tracker so I let it try and it killed the bastard without saying critical hit. Maybe it forgot the message, I don't know. Yum Brahmin 19:21, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Point Lookout at Dove Delta. My Laser was almost dead and VATS said it would half kill a Tracker so I let it try and it killed the bastard without saying critical hit. Maybe it forgot the message, I don't know. Yum Brahmin 19:21, August 4, 2010 (UTC)