Forum:Doing the Legion and Mister House quest without killing the BOS

I don't want to destroy the Brotherhood, but i need to, to complete the Mr House or Caesars Legion quest, Is there a way to do the quest without destroying the Brotherhood? And im not working for the NCR.

I was disappointed when i found out i cant side with the BOS, i used to think they were the one attacking the Dam

You cannot Complete the House quests without destroying the BoS. If you go back, he will just ask you if youe have taken care of them and if not, you will be locked out of further dialogue or advancement until you do

The only way not to kill the BOS is to do the quests with Yes Man and tell him that the BOS can be ignored User:Stuvi

I can't imagine why you'd want to spare that pack of egotistical technofetishists. Destroying the BoS is a mercy to its members, whose isolationism would eventually doom them anyway, and a boon to the entire wasteland. As Mr. House so eloquently put it, you should kill them "Because they're ridiculous!" Schneidend 03:47, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

Your insults weaken your argument im sure you're intelligent enought to come up with a logical reason, why you believe the BOS should be destroyed without using a term such as "technofetishists". Gdubs 03:50, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

Like I said, they're ridiculous. You can't rebuild civilization by running around collecting laser guns like a knight of yore hunting the proverbial holy grail. Ashur probably put it best when he said something to the effect of "the Brotherhood can't rebuild a city. There isn't a machine to do it for them, so they won't bother." Schneidend 04:44, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * when was the last time you built a city? The BOS have their vaule - with the demise of the Enclave noone understands tech like they do, and that includes the NCR.  Eventually the war with the NCR will force them to change their ways a bit. Agent c 19:49, November 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * "Rebuild." Not build. Ashur was rebuilding the Pitt with a steel press and just a little bit of Brotherhood know-how. Imagine what the Brotherhood could accomplish if they applied themselves to something constructive as an entire organization. Instead, all they use their knowledge for is rigging Pre-War bunkers to blow up and fixing laser guns. They never do anything useful like, I dunno, repairing a solar power plant? They've needed to change their ways since Fallout 2, when there numbers and importance were beginning to dwindle. From a literary standpoint, of course, they shouldn't change their ways, as they represent the Pre-War world's greatest failure: its technology far outpaced its cultural growth. From the perspective of the Courier, Chosen One, and Lone Wanderer, however, they're just failures canned in ceramic and steel. Their time is over. Schneidend 01:59, November 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * The BOS have done useful things. Take a visit to Vault 13 and you'll see what I mean.  Those opinions may be correct from the perspective of your playthrough, but you can't state the PC's perspective as a fact because its subjective to the player (and the character they're roleplaying). Agent c 20:07, November 13, 2010 (UTC)

--This guy here has a HUUGE crush on Veronica ^^. Boy u two would definately agree. 2 bad its a game ey :P Srsly tho, the brotherhood is the cewlest faction in the game. Second only to the Remnants in power, but more in number. I liked the BOS in fallout 3 (ofc) and now see hope for them in changing their way, eventually. Ashur was the first, Elder Lyons the second, more and more will follow and deviate from the original Brotherhood ideals, till eventually the codex will be altered. Blasphemy! Oh yes, now it is. That will change. Soon u will all see things MY WAY Muhaahhaha.. .... ... ...

Sincerely,

NeedPants 145.118.115.63 19:43, November 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Second to the Reminnats in power? Second to last perhaps... The Reminants barely have any power. They have no territories, they hide within other communities hoping their past isn't revealed to the NCR....  They're half a dozen people and a single Vertiburd (and as we learned in Arizona Killer, we know how they're hardly indestructable).  Agent c 20:07, November 13, 2010 (UTC)

The BoS in New Vegas is more faithfull to the original in East Coast than the BoS in FO3, namelly the Capital Wasteland Brotherhood of Steel. In FO3 the Brotherhood abandoned much of the Codex and started to help locals, but the Mojave BoS is still very tied to the old teachings: BoS above all, collecting technology, don't help local groups, don't get involved in local politics and being isolationists. They are not a good or evil faction, they simply don't care about other groups, only themselves.

Veronica is pretty much a outcast for them, with doubts of if it's better leave the group or continue with the path they are doing (wich will lead almost certain to their annihilation)

I think this need to be clear before judging to destroy or not the faction. I still need to play the end involving the NCR - wich is the one I am doing now - and Ceasar's Legion, but for what I've seem I have to agree with Gannon, the best one appears to be a independent Vegas, without House, NCR and Legion. Brfritos 00:13, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

--I mean power as in individual units. Due to their armor and weaponry, a paladin dishes out more dmg then anyone b4 dying, with the exeption of the remnants, who are naturally even more advanced.

But onto the discussion of which ending is best. If ur looking for the most positive narration, NCR win definately is the best option. Bringing people overall to a higher standard of living. The main tone of the narrator after a independent ending, is chaos and anarchy, not very positive. But for personal opinion. WEll, personally, since im male and prob lazy enough to make use of slaves were they legal, id say go legion. :p Roll me a joint, slave, then lets have some 1on1 in the bedroom. U dont want to? Aww, and i was so in the mood. Wait, I OWN U! Get in there hoe!


 * p a prob for the best that slavery is abolished :D

NeedPants 145.118.115.63 00:28, November 14, 2010 (UTC)