Talk:Jet

The Real Jet
I've got two conflicting sources that say that jet is either GHB or Ketamine. This would explain why it's in the vaults because both drugs have been around since the 20th century. And could also mean the Myron is lying, considering the character wouldn't be surpassing. Aryeonos 04:29, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Jet is neither. It's brahmin dung fumes. Bethesda should've just named it methamphetamine, that way it could've conceiveably appear in Vaults. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/4/4a/Naglowaa_se.gif/11px-Naglowaa_se.gif Tagaziel (call!) 09:09, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I was thinking about that, but what if Myron had substituted the Brahmin Dung Fumes for some other ingredient that was available pre-war, to make up for post war laboratory shortcomings or whatever, if jet was a real drug before the war and he found a recipe for it, but had to recreate it with post war lab equipment. The reason Bethesda couldn't name anything after real drugs like the should've was because of Australian censorship laws with drugs.Aryeonos 03:38, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

But there is also the case that neither GHB Methamphetamine or Ketamine is an inhalant.Aryeonos 03:41, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * He did mention a mutated protein extract that is still present in the brahmin, from before the war. He was trying all the existing recipies, but they didn't have the conditions to grow the vegetables needed for the best drugs or raw chemical compounds for synthetic ones. They chose the shrooms, but then it turned out that the fertilizer was the drug they wanted. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/4/4a/Naglowaa_se.gif/11px-Naglowaa_se.gif Tagaziel (call!) 08:43, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

So he was trying to create a prewar drug? That could mean that the Jet on the east coast is created using those vegetables he couldn't make, do to the fact that they have the hydroponics necessary to create unmutated vegetables. This might also explain why it's so much weaker than the west coast version, and would make jet an actual prewar drug.Aryeonos 22:42, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * It's kinda interesting how he chose mushrooms though, as he couldn't grow anything else in the harsh wasteland? Even though Mushrooms are rather fragile organisms, not able to thrive in any form of wind and require an amazing amount of water and darkness. However he found the spores to make the mushrooms in the first place is a real mystery, at least to me.Aryeonos 22:53, October 28, 2009 (UTC)


 * He wasn't trying to create a pre-war drug, he was looking for a new drug to give Mordinos Redding. He stumbled upon Jet by pure chance... oh, just go read his dialogue file: Myron. Everything's explained there.
 * Jet is not a real life drug. It really doesn't resemble anything with it's permanent addiction and rate. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/4/4a/Naglowaa_se.gif/11px-Naglowaa_se.gif Tagaziel (call!) 23:21, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

No, I understand that he was making jet to get redding for (the) mordinos. What I'm getting at is that I have a couple sources that put "Jet" as slang for Ketamine, this comes from my friend who found it in the book "Slang and Euphemism Third Revised Addition"; further more, after a little research, (On urban dictionary, a sight I don't trust at all, as far as validity goes), I found first slang that confirmed that "Jet" was slang for Ketamine and then that "Jet" was slang for GHB, in ireland. After looking into the Wikipedia article on GHB, it stated that a slang for it was "Jet". However as you mentioned the jet in fallout doesn't properly resemble any real life drug on all three levels. It does resemble a few other drugs
 * Whip-it, an Inhalant. Though it is more of a relaxant than a stimulant.
 * Crystal Meth, a highly addictive substance, that does stay in your system for extenuated periods.
 * Opium and Cocaine, also have a similar property of having long term affects even after the initial addiction is cleared.
 * Jenkum, also an inhalant, but made from the vapors of fermented feces. Similar process to how jet in FO2 is made.

Ketamine is a relaxant, which as we know you have better reaction time when relaxed, I can't say you would be more active however. So no, I probably won't be able to match Jet in Fallout to Jet in our world perfectly. However I am working on something, really I just want to find a way to properly justify jet on the east coast, or any other things I justify about it.Aryeonos 00:23, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

If you need to relate it to something in our world, just call east-coast jet Crystal Meth. It's logically sound... crystal meth, like Jet, is a methamphetamine with a high addiction rate. It also produces massive energy surges in users, heightened alertness, paranoia, etc. Given that the BoS probably aren't Jet users, but have seen junkies on the west coast, and that the effects of the east coast amphetamine would be virtually indistinguishable from Jet without prolonged observation and testing, I assume they saw someone using it and decided to call the drug jet. 99.6.39.6 18:23, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

jet in the capital wasteland
This doesn't seem right to me: "...apparently even somehow spreading to the Capital Wasteland, where someone would produce an even more potent version". Ultrajet still seems no stronger than the Jet in Fallout 2. Ultrajet has no effect on stats, and the increase in action points doesn't seem to entirely make up for this. A 40 AP increase in Fallout 3 adds up to about the same as a 4 AP increase in Fallout 2, which is double the potency in regards to AP, but Fallout 2 jet also makes characters tougher, more effective in melee combat, and more accurate with guns. I don't know if I'd call ultrajet 'more potent'. 76.113.5.69 22:38, 14 December 2008 (UTC)ComradeJim270

Added trivia item about 'Khat' ... may be a bit of a reach, but it's interesting.Shadowgm 13:21, 5 January 2009 (UTC)Shadowgm
 * Sounds like a mere coincidence to me. Ausir 13:29, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

"Jet seems to be taken from an inhaler. " Really? Because to me it looks like a somewhat orignal Vaporizer design, packed full of the substance.

How is it used?

How exactly is one to take Jet? It looks like an enhailer to me...
 * Yep. It's compressed bramin dung. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/4/4a/Naglowaa_se.gif/11px-Naglowaa_se.gif Tagaziel (call!) 08:28, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

like this "1 minute later" ah what a headache,who's bed is this and who is that?!?--Snipitysnipsnip 07:33, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Jet addiction makes me slow?
It only happened once but I became addicted to Jet, and I got much slower. I was not over encumbered (I had about 100 pounds out of maximum 210) and I was going way too slow for it to be the -1 agility, but not as slow as being overencumbered, did this happen to anyone else or was this just a once in a million thing?

That's just a bug with Bethesda's game engine, it can happen in Oblivion too. Aryeonos What!? 03:49, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Jet
Jet is most like jenkem as someone has already said.

Jenkem is used in 3rd world countries by scraping fecal matter from sewage pipes then placing it in a sealed bag, after allowing it to "ferment" the bag is opened and the fumes are inhaled. Even if the protiens which are mentioned weren't used on the brahamin you would still get a effect.

Personally I think jet isn't based on a specific drug but a combo of two, jenkem being one of them.

89.241.160.156 16:25, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, Jet is not jenkem (which is an urban legend, not a real drug). It's a methamphetamine hybrid drug. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 18:33, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Red jet
if you look at the empty jet canister pictuer yol se there is no coaler so jet is a red coalerd airboan sustans

....what? I'm sorry, I'm fluent in several dialects of internet speak, yet I have NO idea what the fuck you're talking about. Try using English next time. Oh, and if anyone decides to nuke the above unintelligble babble, take my rant with it. TestECull
 * Look at me, my name is TestECull and I'm an internet tough guy because I sprechen ze Englisch. It's not that hard to figure out that our friend here is talking about the difference between filled and empty jet inhalers, and the fact that jet's physical appearance isn't actually mentioned anywhere on the page. I added it. :/ Nitty the Kitty! 00:41, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Look pal, whatever you may think about my rant, it doesn't change the fact that anon's unintelligible babble was written in a dialect not of this world. All the better that you can somehow translate it, but most of us don't posess the magical space brain necessary to figure it out...oh, and if anyone here is the e-tough guy, it's you. TestECull
 * Look pal, if you want to be sarcastic to other around here, expect to be treated in the same manner. Granted their English may not be first rate, but then again, it may not be there first language either. So if you want to be a grammar Nazi and put it across in a condescending way and mouth off about it, go ahead. But, don't expect any kind of respect in return, because you did as such. User avatar tag.gifUser Avatar talk.png 15:04, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Should we add good in-game strategies?
In Fallout 1 and 2, since you can use Jet on others, I found that if you know tough enemies will turn hostile, you can easily Jet them up, wait couple hours for it to wear off, and they'll suffer massive perception penalties for days.

2 Jet can make an Enclave soldier miss 100% at point blank in the base with the gas station... (been a while, forgot its name) 173.248.212.131

Adding reference to real life drugs?
Adding some notes that Jet is probably a counterpart to Speed, there something wrong with that? I'd figure I'd just go ahead and add that... but I need a confirmation that it's ok, seeing how nobody did makes me wonder if it's okay, I guess it's something wrong with community guidelines? Or something?
 * The problem is that any such additions would be purely speculative, something we stay away from on article pages. Many illegal drugs are a lot like other illegal drugs, and spelling that all out will just result in arguing, several parallel theories, or, worst, we may get a bunch of chemistry students interested ;). So, no, let's not add real-world similarities to the article.--Gothemasticator 04:45, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah good idea... it'll just turn into an argument