Talk:RadAway/Archive 1

I don't actually remember RadAway glowing. I'll have to play the game again... TearsOfBlood 08:28, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

A clue to how rad-away is made
In the fallout 3 add-on point lookout, it is suggested that rad-away is in fact derived from the refined punga fruit made by the tribal peoples of Point Lookout, Maryland. This is illustrated in the game by the placement of 2 packs of rad-away, 2 refined punga fruits, a hot plate, and various other chemistry equipment on a table in the Ark and Dove Cathedral, the home of the tribal people. While this is never verified in game, however both wild and refined punga fruit heal radiation, and are the only other items in the game that have this property. --71.77.136.223 02:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Except Rad Away appears also in previous Fallout games, and there's no punga there. Ausir 03:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Also it is not the only other item the cave fungus in little lamplight also removes rads. 124.148.39.175 10:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * And so can alien bio-gel, sometimesAryeonos 11:08, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

moving fallout three rad away
because there is substantial information regarding the fallout three radaway, and as usual for every other fallout title absolutely no information I think it'd be better to give this it's own article, at least for athsetic purposes. or just consolidating FO1,2,tactics to a notes section under radaway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aryeonos (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~ !
 * What? This is just silly. Ausir 09:48, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Exactly,our policy:If its in the same games,keep it in the sam article,just like we did with rad-x and double barrel shotgun(Which makes sense now) Mr.Wolf 09:50, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sigh, yet another one who thinks this should be "Fallout 3 wiki" with the rest of the games reduced to a mere footnote. Not gonna happen. Ausir 09:50, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Like that asshole who thought UESP could make a better wikia than us (Dies of laughing) Mr.Wolf 09:52, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Let me RE-type what I had previously said, because it gets deleted. I'm not against the other games, I'm just depressed by the facts that no one puts up any info on items or bothers to explain anything about fallout 1,2 tactics and the like. It looks unprofessional the way it is, I'd like the article to look neet, not just. This is radaway, it removes x rads, it can sometimes be addicting, and calling it an article. Then leaving 20+ lines of whitespace. If anything I'd like to see some of the charts side by side to fill the space and show some comparison. Aryeonos 09:59, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * "with the rest of the games reduced to a mere footnote." Ausir 09:48, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * As a rebuttal, Currently they are footnotes, except they take up obscene amounts of space at the very top of the article.Aryeonos 10:03, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Did you perhaps miss the infobox on the right? It has all the needed info about how Rad Away works in FO1, FO2 and FOT. No need to repeat the same information in the article text itself. Ausir 10:05, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed,and the old games arent a footnote,even to this day,there is still work being made on them (Especillay by mikael,good job),so saying there afootnote is like going over to the fallout eleventy and saying you could make a better story than Fat Man SPoon. Mr.Wolf 10:13, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Look I'm saying it needs cleanup some info and if no info can be found merge a few sections for compactnes. Really I'd rather see an article on exactly what it is titled, "RADAWAY" Not "Radaway in fallout 1,2,tactis" then "Radaway in FO3" Instead A few paragraphs on what we know about radaway from all the games, a section on what it does in a broad sense, where it comes from and the like, THEN- a section on how it differs in each game. Really I just want to see more combined information before we break everything apart.
 * I have really no idea what you mean. That's what this article is now. The first two paragraphs contain general information about what is known about Rad Away setting-wise, and then we have information specific to each game. Ausir 19:29, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Radaways application
I have some reason to believe that Radaway may be taken in enema form. One for the noise it makes when used in the game and, if you want to get into it, a pack can be found close at hand within the brothel area of evergreen mills. I could explain why it may be there for those lacking imagination, but I think you guys should be smart enough to understand.

As well if used in enema form the liquid would be able to not only flush the lower digestive track but also liquids are absorbed by the colin and intestines, which would allow the chemicals to work on other organs as well. From a medical perspective I believe this is within reason, but it may also may stretching it a little, be able to work IV, but I'm not entirely sure on that one. I think it is more of a digestive track chemical not so much an IV chem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aryeonos (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~ !
 * It's a chemical that works intravenously, just look at the art. Shoving it up yer arse is not more effective than jacking it straight into a vein. http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/5/5c/Scribe.jpg/15px-Scribe.jpg Tagaziel (call!) 15:32, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Which art? And depending on how you became irradiated not necessarily, it takes longer for your bloodstream to cycle itself through your liver than it does for your intestinal tract to process nutrients, liquids, etc. We're talking hours, if not days compared to about a half hour initially then a couple hours after. Though because you never see your character use any of the chems, for public censorship issues, drug use what have you. Nor truly eat anything or go to the bathroom, it'd be hard to judge how anything would effectively work on him/er. If you can get me hands down evidence of its use as an IV, then thats fine but that's why I brought it up on the discussion page. Aryeonos 19:11, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Chem RadAway.png
 * Look at the art. It has an intravenous needle and a hole to hang on an IV stand. It's called "obvious". http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/5/5c/Scribe.jpg/15px-Scribe.jpg Tagaziel (call!) 19:54, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

yeah see, when I had my appendix removed they had to give me an enema for a scan, the bag containing the water/colorant for the scan was hung on a "IV stand". Apparently you have never been in a hospital. And no that is not a needle it is the sterile tube that would attach to a dispenser.Aryeonos 03:10, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Given that I'm a son of an MD and spent a fair amount of time in a hospital, most recently on the basis that I was suspected to have a brain tumour, I know how an IV application looks and the RadAway is an intraveinous drug. http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/5/5c/Scribe.jpg/15px-Scribe.jpg Tagaziel (call!) 07:39, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Right because your blood gets radioactive particles in it by standing next to a drum of "Radioactive Waste" but not your stomach, lungs, skin, kidneys, liver small and large intestines or any other digestive or respiratory function. Are you familiar with how most radioactive material comes in contact with the body at all? Honestly though, IV or Enema I don't think either will help you if you have Particulate matter in the mucosa membranes in your lungs. Really, if you had a rad-away attached to a catheter, a secondary vacuum or removal system of sorts and a breather, you might be able to remove early radioactive material before it fused to your lungs. Now how really is an IV supposed to remove radioactive material from your stomach and bladder? It would be impractical, now if you had rad-away as an oral dosed liquid, yeah that would bond to irradiated matter in water, you would still suffer internal radiation poisoning though. Or if you went swimming in a contaminated body of water, they already have a solution for that, it's called a shower. If you have ionizing radioactive matter in or around your body it will damage your blood sure, but it isn't going somehow enter the bloodstream on its own. And if we want to take into account what Casadin said, Radaway is a diarrhetic. No Intravenous drug I've ever dealt with is a diarrhetic, an Enema is a diarrhetic, orange juice is a diarrhetic. Maybe an localized dose of Morphine could make you incontinent, but how is that helpful, with the exception of extreme constipation.Aryeonos 11:05, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't care what you think or did, the game states it's an IV drug (the inventory item icon in Fo1, Fo2 and FoT all have an IV needle in it, as does the art in the Fallout manual) and it makes far more sense to have an anti-radiation drug in intravenous form than enema. Besides, you don't know anything about the exact method in which it works, apart from the fact that it "bonds with radiation particles and passes through your system", so your pseudoscientific drivel is pointless.
 * Last, Cadin says, quote, "Can't stand this stuff, myself. Goes through me like a rampaging Brahmin.", unquote. It's a pretty generic statement and can mean anything from diarrhea through headaches to stomach ache or muscle pains. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/4/4a/Naglowaa_se.gif/11px-Naglowaa_se.gif Tagaziel (call!) 11:39, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

That quarter inch tube is an IV? And where, does it state that it's an IV drug?And no it doesn't make more sense to make it an IV over an enema, you can flush your system that way. But really your character doesn't run around with a wheeled IV stand for an hour with it on drip now do they?Aryeonos 11:57, September 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * Here, is the exact passage from the Fallout 1 manual

"RADAWAY If you have been exposed to large amounts of radiation, then use RadAway to remove the radiation from your system. It won’t feel good, but better a headache and some stomach problems for a couple of days than the long term effects of nuclear radiation! RadAway takes a little while to work."

Aryeonos 12:01, September 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * Which is, again, ambiguous. Except the art in the manual and the inventory art in the games clearly indicate that it's to be taken in IV form. Besides, are you honestly suggesting that enema is less annoying to apply and endure?
 * Next, random link from google: http://www.drugs.com/sfx/erythromycin-side-effects.html
 * Gastrointestinal side effects are common, especially when the drug is given intravenously. GI side effects include nausea, abdominal pain, diarrhea, and vomiting. Transient elevations of liver function tests and rare cases of hepatitis and pancreatitis have also been reported.
 * In short, you are wrong. As usual. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/4/4a/Naglowaa_se.gif/11px-Naglowaa_se.gif Tagaziel (call!) 12:17, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

"Except the art in the manual and the inventory art in the games clearly indicate that it's to be taken in IV form."

No it doesn't, in no part of the manual or FO1 does it "clearly state" it's IV applied, what would need via IV would be blood, to replace your dead blood from radiation. and I didn't say that enemas were easy, neither are IV's because they limit your arm movement, and just like enemas, pose a risk to your interior organs, tissues, veins/arteries/etc. in all practicality a system flushing drink would be most effective for any ingested radioactive material. Really you should be given a kit to treat the multiple hazards of radiation, from dermal burns to bone marrow depletion. A simple pack in no way could cure all the radioactive hazards. and what drug does this IV treatment use?Aryeonos 13:46, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Hokay... Available forms Erythromycin is available in enteric-coated tablets, slow-release capsules, oral suspensions, ophthalmic solutions, ointments, gels, and injections.

Brand names include Robimycin, E-Mycin, E.E.S. Granules, E.E.S.-200, E.E.S.-400, E.E.S.-400 Filmtab, Erymax, Ery-Tab, Eryc, Ranbaxy, Erypar, EryPed, Eryped 200, Eryped 400, Erythrocin Stearate Filmtab, Erythrocot, E-Base, Erythroped, Ilosone, MY-E, Pediamycin, Zineryt, Abboticin, Abboticin-ES, Erycin, PCE Dispertab, Stiemycine, Acnasol and Tiloryth.

As in, we wouldn't make so many oral applications if injection was the safest easiest and least destructive path.

any way stop acting like the end all source. with your "Pseudo Science"! Aryeonos 13:53, September 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * See, once again you fail to pay attention to what other people write. Since it's written word, not spoken, meaning you can take your sweet time and properly comprehend what other people say. Since you fail to do so, there are mental deficencies in you that should be looked after.
 * I've written that "art in the manual and inventory art in the games" clearly indicate that the RadAway is an IV drug. In the manual, it obviously ends with a needle, in Fallout 1 and 2 it also ends with a needle, while in Fallout Tactics it is, again, clearly an IV application needle, even with stabilizing fins. See, the funny thing is, you are desperately trying to prove that RadAway must be something else without considering that maybe, just maybe, in 2077, biomedical research has yielded a powerful drug that clears the system of radiation, something that's far more advanced than our current methods of treating it.
 * What's even more hilarious is that when I completely devastate your claim that because you haven't seen IV drugs causing diarrhea etc. they cannot exist, you try to dodge the point with a non sequitur, a statement completely detached from the topic at hand.
 * Now, you should stop posting before you hurt yourself or become silly. Oh wait, you already are (points to the topic above this one). http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/4/4a/Naglowaa_se.gif/11px-Naglowaa_se.gif Tagaziel (call!) 14:11, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * What in the world is wrong with you two? -_-;... However Radaway is taken it doesn't affect you in any way. Stop being such imbeciles and filling the Interweb with your nonsense. TearsOfBlood 19:17, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Hey I'm just trying to bring medical knowledge and light to the article, not waste bandwidth. when he stops blathering and starts showing reason I'll be happy to oblige to sense and civility.Aryeonos 08:03, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * But you're being a complete retard. He's right, you're wrong, and you just can't give it up. I don't know why he's even arguing, egging you on. Furthermore, it's a game! You can't apply the real world to a game all of the time. The medicine comes in the form of an IV, but you never actually take it. It disappears from your inventory and your rads reduce. It's instant. You wouldn't have time to insert an enema nor stick yourself with a syringe. Stop arguing over pointless crap that doesn't effect anyone! And, to put the final nail in the coffin, even if what you're suggesting is possible, you'll never know either way unless someone from Black Isle or Bethesda comes out and says one way or another, so again, it's pointless to argue about it. TearsOfBlood 08:11, October 4, 2009 (UTC)


 * Case solved:
 * RADAWAY.gif
 * Now shut up y'all. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/4/4a/Naglowaa_se.gif/11px-Naglowaa_se.gif Tagaziel (call!) 09:57, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

shove rad-x up your bum