Talk:Wernher

Voice Actor
It seems pretty obvious Wernher is voiced by the same guy who does all the Ghoul voices. Would it be possible to add that to the article, or do we actually need a solid credits reference to go on? Joylock 19:41, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Yup, it's Mike Rosson alright, the guy who voices Colin Moriarty, all male ghouls (save for Desmond) and Jaime in both his human and ghoul forms. It's so obvious I wonder why anyone would argue if somebody posted it as a fact on this page. 96.23.247.63 17:05, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Von Braun Reference?
Werhner von Braun. I know it's kinda a long shot, but I wouldn't put it past Bethesda. And could somebody get cracking on a pic of him? I know it's early, but I wanna know what this guy looks like. I'm gonna DL it this weekend. TunnelSnake 00:17, 26 March 2009 (UTC) I think that Dr Braun in fallout 3 is as well... I've been trying to get wikipedia to note it but they won't
 * Why does every little thing have to be a cultural reference? --MadCat221 00:13, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Use your brains, people
I deleted a note that claimed Werhner was buggy because he would turn hostile if the player attacked a nearby slave. This should be obvious, but wouldn't logic dictate a REBEL SLAVE LEADER such as Werhner would get angry if one of his people were assaulted? Come on.

Werhner Is Roy
Werhner seems to be a reworking of Roy the vengeful ghoul, right down to the painful "reality" speech when the Lone Wanderer realises they were USED (again).--Verbal Earthworm 13:12, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Although the Tenpenny Tower residents weren't actually hurting anyone. Roy just wanted to kill them because he's a murderous human-hating ass. There's a much better case for the slaves wanting to drown the slavers in a flood of Trogs. Joylock 19:41, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

WHY IS THERE STILL NO PICTURE?
I mean, come on. It's been out for a while now. We got pics of Ashur, and someone of the unimportant raiders and slaves. Why no Wernher? He's just as important as Ashur. TunnelSnake 20:19, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Removed Note
It's incredibly wordy and pure speculation. Figured I'd put this here since the author must have spend some time working on it. Mr. Sully 20:49, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Similar to Ashur, Wernher is by design not a good or evil character, he like the questline is morally ambiguous; he displays both good and evil traits and his true intentions are unclear throughout the DLC. Being that Wernher was, before becoming a slave, Ashur's second-in-command, and that he became a slave by an attempted mutiny to overthrow Ashur, his actions could be not to free the slaves but to gain control of the settlement, this could be interpreted as only Midea's and his own life noticeably improve while the rest of the slaves do not. However this could also mean that Bethesda never implemented an script to change their behavior or it is bugged (as backed up by the fact that there are no raiders around to actually boss them around anymore). Wernher may also have decided simply that the treatment of the Slaves was unjust and decided to overthrow Ashur in order to free him, but his reaction to both the players reasons to help the slaves at the tunnel entrance in the Capital Wasteland and his response to the speech challenge where the player convinces him to leave the Pitt vaguely implies hes not truly interested in the hardships faced by the slaves.

Maybe cut it down to the bare essentials? i.e. morally grey, possibly in it just for the power, and his former status as Ashur's second-in-command. Cut out all the speculation. TunnelSnake 21:37, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


 * It was already stated that he is a neutral character and that he was Ashur's second in command. Pretty much everything else can be argued one way or the other. Mr. Sully 03:09, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, if it was redundant, then it should be cut out. TunnelSnake 19:36, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Evidence of Werhner's true character.
I got these script notes from the G.E.C.K. that some may find interesting. When talking to him about the baby, after handing it over, an option to ask him about the child's well-being will come up. The script notes for his dialogue where he reassures the player the baby will be all right, read:


 * "Obviously doesn't care about the baby"
 * "Grinning and totally untrustworthy, like a used car salesman saying 'TRUST ME!'"

I don't think this helps Werhner's cause as a 'good person', but it's up to to the player to judge him I guess. Personally, I take him as neutral.

So any thoughts on this? --Dthvirus 14:38, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Good find. TunnelSnake 14:46, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Werhner>Solid snake?
Werhner seems similiar to solid snake (or more specifically,naked snake) in terms of eyepatch,and voice and dont they both smoke? Werewolfhell 14:38, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't Naked Snake smoke cigars? Fat Man Spoon 17:22, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

the fact that they smoke is rather weak since most npcs smoke

I'm sorry, but after beating (AND COMPLETELY LOVING) MGS3, this a a complete stretch for similarities. Naked Snake smokes cigars, wernher (LIKE MANY NPCS) smokes cigarettes. Snake usually doesn't use revolver (Only cutscene with one is in WIG), Wernher always uses a loud, non stealthy revolver. True, Wernher "sneaks" (more like disappears then comes back to a certain spot...), but all slaves would pretty much have to sneak. Voices, no. Snakes voice is very different from Wernhers, Wernhers actually almost sounds like a ghoul, while Snake's has a slightly raspy tone, but is distinctly different. The only real similarity is the eyepatch (which i wanted so i could make a snake character), but the rest is just a stretch. Wow, I never realized I could get so heated on this topic.--User: Valoopy

He seems more like a play on the Snake Pliskin from the Escape From films imo --Bazzer247 19:38, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

He's an obvious reference to Snake Plissken from the film "Escape From New York" your argument is redundant since Solid Snake was ALSO based on Snake Plissken. EpicMailMan 20:15, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

But just because he is based off of one character does not mean he is based off characters based off of him. And if I remember correctly, Naked Snake wears his eyepatch on his right eye (but I may be wrong here). --Valoopy

Teleporting Corpse?
I killed Wernher in the "Free Labor" quest in order to side with Ashur. I found at his hideout, killed and dismembered him, and placed him on one of his beds along with most of his body parts. Later, as I went to the Trainyard to exit The Pitt, his corpse appeared next to the train car, still dismembered and with most of his remains around him. I've since returned to The Pitt many times, and his corpse is still there, unmoved. Could this be a possible glitch? By the way I'm using the Xbox 360 version of the game.

--64.237.175.186 22:50, 21 July 2009 (UTC)Master Glink>

Confirmed on Xbox 360. It happened to me several times. AlbinoTitan 23:03, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * "placed him on one of his beds along with most of his body parts" wait what? --68.181.254.8 13:51, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha! Who hasn't dismembered the occasional corpse on FO3? Doing tranquility lane on Bad Karma, I beheaded every resident, me and my brother sometimes go to Tenpennys balcony and take turns kiling him in funny ways which often involve clusters of mines.ThePog 19:07, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Haha, yeahhhh, check the Bugs section of the article, it's quite a common bug. StarfishCostume 08:42, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

All of Wernher's follower reactions.
I know that he calls Fawkes and Charon, "Whatever he is." and for Cross he says "We don't need some do-gooder following us around, she'll just slow us down." (foreshadowing the moral challenge later) but those are the only followers I've ever had with me going into the Pitt. Can anyone post what he says about Butch, Jericho, Clover, and RL-3? FinalWish 01:44, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

i just beat the Pitt again yesterday and had clover with me. he insults her by saying we don't need your "whore" with us and other things. i was stunned he would do that.... made me wished i could have just killed him for that comment because i like clover, but at the end i made him eat those words by killing him later XD Silverfox6000 00:32, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

He called Jericho a burned-out, old loser. If Jericho's AI could've responded, Wernher would be needing another eyepatch. --74.243.105.250 01:57, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Hate to break it out to you, but Clover technically IS a whore. I really don't see what else to call a sex slave that enjoys what she's become. ;) --142.213.106.45 19:04, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Escort out of The Pitt?
Well noticing this Wernher does the same thing when he escorts you half way to The Pitt, he's escorting me out of The Pitt now. Over the bridge and everthing by the looks, any one else get this? MasterRPGer (talk) 1:13 AM September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Iron Ingots?
after the add-on, could we still give ingots to Wernher?

Do we still get the awards, if not...I'm screwed.Ranger In Heavy Armor 18:57, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * No, you can't give Steel Ingots to Wernher. You can give them to Everett, but not Wernher. Kastera (talk) 04:33, July 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh shit...Ranger In Heavy Armor 21:41, July 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * From the Everett article: "Do not kill him if you want the unique weapons and armors, and the achievement/trophy that comes with it." If you're playing the PC version and have killed him, you might be able to resurrect him using console commands. If he's still alive then you can always go back and talk to him. --HunterZ_tiny.png(talk) 21:48, July 5, 2011 (UTC)