Forum:That Gun

Just wanted to get some opinions on this weapon. I like the look of it, and I like to carry it, but is it a practical weapon for the later portions of the game? I was thinking that I'd carry that for "close quarters" and the All American for longer range shooting so that instead of carrying multiple ammo calibers, I could just carry different types of 5.56 rounds. Opinions, please.

207.245.200.54 01:48, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

That Gun is a semi-auto pistol with an excellent rate of fire and it does a decent amount of damage. However, it uses .556 ammunition, and it does NOT compare to the rifles of the same calibur. It's not a bad weapon for close quarters, you could do worse. It only has 6 shots I believe, so you may be better of with a Ranger Sequoia--except that the govt. ammo is rare and expensive. I usually don't use it for long--it's a decent early weapon, but it's not nearly as good as later weapons. In my opinion, you are better off with a submachine gun or a shotgun for close-quarters combat. Also, if you plan on using a rifle that uses .556 ammo, know that the pistol will eat into that ammunition as well. That said, it has probably the best fire rate for a semi-auto weapon, even beating out the service rifle. --SergeantDornan 02:25, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

I know that there are better weapons combos out there. What I'm trying to figure out is whether or not That Gun is a viable late game weapon. I should also point out that it's for a Hardcore playthough, so I'm trying to keep my weight down and by having two guns that are designed for two different purposes but that use the same ammo I'm hoping to have more inventory space for other stuff.

207.245.200.54 05:26, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Well, in that case, I suppose it is. I mean, it won't bring down an armored foe, so I wouldn't use it against someone wearing heavy armor, but for the various viper gangs and unarmored creatures, it works just fine, and has a very good reload speed. Just don't try to do anything crazy with it, like go after a deathclaw or something. --SergeantDornan 06:04, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

I usually have something high powered laying around for situations where my usual load-out won't cut it, like the Ranger Sequoia. I'm just looking for a "workhorse" combo that will work against most of the lower level enemies (Fire Geckos, Golden Geckos, Cazadores, Nightstalkers....) Honestly, if .45-70 ammo was widely availible, I wouldn't even bother carrying anything but the Brush Gun because with the right perk combos and Hollow Point rounds, you're killing pretty much everybody with one or two shots regardless of distance anyway. I also like the fact that the 5.56 mm ammo comes in so many varieties for different situations.

207.245.200.54 07:43, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

It will work against most of your human enemies and regular gecko's. I don't think it has the clip size to handle Cazadores, because you usually encounter them in fairly large packs. But MOST lower level enemies you will do just fine with, especially with AP ammo. You will take several shots to kill a cazadore, which is why I say it's not that great for them--the rate of fire is nice, but the clip size is a seriouse detrement when it comes to those flying bastards. I would say go ahead and use it, but try to stick to AP ammo. Also, switch to your other weapon against cazadores. Gecko's shouldn't be a problem, unless you encounter a large pack of them. --SergeantDornan 07:49, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

So I guess that your all-around recommendation for a weapons combo would be .44 Heavy Frame Revolver and Scoped Trail Carbine then? In game you can get the .44 SWC schematic from that dude in North Vegas.... do you know if you need the Hand Loader perk to actually make the SWC ammo?

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That Gun is not viable for the later game. It's a 5 (not 6) round revolver that doesn't pack enough punch to get through later game armour, doesn't have any handloaded ammo which can keep a gun useful and out the box will usually be outperformed by a plain .357. I recomend for interchangeable ammo to go with Lucky (the named .357 magnum) and a cowboy repeater until you can mange the incredible hunting revolver/brush gun combo (you could put the .44 revolver/trail carbine combo as an intermediate, but .44 ammo is heavy and it is not the massive upgrade that the 45-70 is). It doesn't help on weight if your ammo weighs half-as-much per shell when you need 5 times as many shells to put someone down, and using 5.56 will result in this problem - I've just been testing the All American versus a Sniper Rifle and it takes more ammo weight to handle equivalent beasties.

And you used to need handloading to make .44SWC, not sure since they tried to fix the Jules bug.75.67.224.12 19:05, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

It's a good gun to have with you when you have to deal with thugs in Freeside and other smaller enemies. It's a cool gun, especially since it bears a striking resemblance to the gun carried by Harrison Ford in Blade Runner.--Ryker6122:03, April 6, 2011 (UTC)~ 03:33pm 04/06/2011

"That Gun" looks cool, but it blows. It's no better than a 9mm pistol. 9mm is better because it has more than 5 shots. I went through 5 reloads before I took out a lowly bark scorpion.Pappy002 06:58, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

YOU'LL HAVE BETTER LUCK WITH A BB GUN, hell, carry Lucky and a fully modded cowboy repeater or La Longe Carabine

I don't think it would be viable for later in the game. I think it would be a good gun to carry around for dealing with hostile animals, especially after the upcoming patch, which increases the damage output.--Ryker6120:07, April 24, 2011 (UTC)~1:06pm 4/24/2011

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I like the gun, good damage, good rate of fire, but the turn-off for me was that only 5 shots in a mag.? When I have 5 Jackal members shooting at me, I can't afford to reload that often. I carry Maria with me at all times. --LegionSniper569 03:53, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

I enjoy the high crit multiplier of it. Then again against later lvl 30+ opponents unless you have 10 luck and all crit perks which turns it into a decent sidearm and trash gun if you don't it's more comparable to a peashooter.