Talk:Gun Runners' Arsenal

What
New... Weapon mods and weapons?! YESH!!!!!!! MY DREAMS OF HITTING SOMEBODY WITH A SIGN IN FALLOUT WILL BE FULFILLED!!! (Lvdoomien 18:33, August 25, 2011 (UTC))!

Hope
XL70E3, Ak47, assault rifle Chinese assault? What do you wanna see in this pack? I hope for awsome original weapons from past fallout games, and maybe some of the ones that were cut in production :)
 * I wanna see my precious desert eagle again. With an expanded magazine and a laser sight. I want a .50 cal machine gun like the browning M2 from Fallout tactics. I Want 5.7mm Case-less rounds and the Vindicator Minigun. I want my M72 Gauss rifle back with its 2mm EC cartridges. Zac hemker 19:52, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * I also want to be able to make a Pipe Rifle and a Zip Gun at work benches. I also want my City Killer Combat Shotgun and the Pancor Jackhammer. Zac hemker 23:38, August 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Pipe Rifle? What the hell do you think the varmit rifle is based off of?

Too bad anything automatic using 50.cal would either be underpowered for each shot (in a way that doesn't make sense for a 50.cal) or would ruin any sembalnce of balance within the game.Frantruck 00:38, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

What I'm hoping for is a new end game shotgun as there is a new type of shotgun ammo so there will have to be a gun runners' arsenal version to load it to begin with.LouisianaBob 20:30, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Bozar?!
Pretty sure the "Unique Anti-Material Rifle" is the Bozar.

I thought the Bozar took .556 rounds. Lonely astronomer 09:53, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

The Bozar is not a anti-materiel its a machinegun whit a scope.

It is .556/.223. GlassJAw667 14:19, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

possibility?
could the nuka-cola sign possibly be something you make with the schematics found at michealangelo's?124.186.148.56 07:00, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

? Maybe, but that would mean having to replace in game schematics (Which are currently unusable) and put in ones to make the sign. But it still could be possible

How about a Jet Pack? I know fast travel is already possible but it would be still be fun exploring new places and flying over Freesides walls straight on to the strip. Also I want random encounters to return. Everything feels so scripted no matter where you go. Same people in the same locations every playthrough... how about just off the road out of no where, 4 people about to shoot eachother over a refridgerator full of water!?--Robandbig 09:42, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Does this make up for..
Will this make up for the fact that after Lonesome Road there will be no more (story) dlc's? --DrunkenSushi 15:08, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I hope not. There was something I remember from the break between Dead Money and Honest Hearts where the developers said that there were 5 planned DLC Add-ons and 2 possible others. I am of the mind that the 2 were something awesome like visiting California or the Capital Wasteland, and not getting some awesome new weapons, but I believe in Santa Claws (he's a Deathclaw). Serose8 22:32, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Does any one know what the weapon mods are? Im hoping for more silencers.--76.90.232.243 18:32, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

They are adding common variants of unique weapons like that Gun and This machine so we may see mods for them. But still i want a Hunting rifle silencer for a real assassin rifle combination

So, any clue on how the new weapons are acquired?
"It increases the range of unique weapons, weapon mods, ammo types and recipes waiting to be uncovered in the Mojave Wasteland." So, what exactly does "waiting to be uncovered" mean? Seems kind of late in the release to make you search the wasteland high and low for new weapons. Anyone hear anything on how the new weapons are acquired? --Dbushik 21:19, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * It looks like they are all accuired by buying them from vendors. I guess the title means that the Gun Runners made some unique weapons avaiable and you can now purchase them from anyone or from specific vendors in the Mojave. serose814:20, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Gun runners will sell ammo arch types and common variants of unique model weapons like that gun and this machine. As for the others im guessing you'll find em, build them and hopefully it'll add new mojave wasteland characters and locations but i doubt it. Also some other vendors than the gun runners like the bos, vann graffs, Ncr and caravans will probly have them in stock. But will they be placed in Npc inventories, like fiends and NCR troopers?

I'm pretty curious about this too. I'm hoping most won't be sold by vendors, since they can be killed and the weapons will be lost forever. I'm guessing most will be sold by Vendortron, and others will be found in different places.--Jolipinator 17:29, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Oh wait, just read this: https://archive.is/bJLUp http://www.formspring.me/JESawyer/q/232062538789951841 Only available at merchants.--Jolipinator 17:47, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Mick & Ralph's
All I really want from this is that Railway Rifle they have on the wall... it's tormenting me something fierce. Ookamikazuchi 02:54, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

What about the others, pretty sure the Mauser and infiltrator were on the wall too --i shot the sherrif... but i was out of ammo when i got to the deputy.... 15:29, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Howd that get there?
Hay i dont remember reading about those new ammos taht are on the page, so howd those get there adn who said anything about those? (70.173.201.229 01:56, September 2, 2011 (UTC))

Um, good spelling btw and to answer your question there are reference sites...and you could google any of this....so yea, you're call dude. --Deus Gladiorum 13:35, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Assault Rifles?
I'm just looking forward to something like the Chinese Assault Rifle from F3, with lesser spread. Anyone know of any Assault Rifles like this? The only thing similar I've heard is the Bozar which is a scoped MG I think and the unique Assault Carbine. --Deus Gladiorum 13:38, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Assault carbine was just terrible, they need to bring back the real assault 5.56 rifle --i shot the sherrif... but i was out of ammo when i got to the deputy.... 15:28, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Some not seen weapons that would be epic...
1. end boss knife (but seeing how it kinda went down with the oil rig, guess not lol!) so if not, then 'little jesus' combat knife will do. 2.gauss pistol 3.h&k g11 4.yk42b pulse rifle 5.h&k CAWS 6.Pancor Jackhammer 7.mega power fist (that runs on small energy cells) 8.h&k p90c 9.holy hand grenade (restocked at gun runners every 3 days) 10.XL70E3 11. better weapon mods

NOW for all guys who want more fallout 3 weapons, i suppose the infiltrator could make a comeback, but the chinese assault rifle? c'mon that's just weak to put hopes on. --Mat mod 00:23, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

The Chinese Assault Rifle was basically a Chinese variant of the Avtomat Kalishnikov series. If in the current game they included a weapon variant based off the ArmaLite AR-15 series, then they should really include a weapon like the Chinese Assault Rifle. Idk if there's gonna be anything like that, but I know there will be a unique variant of the Assault Carbine. Hopefully this variant will have higher damage and lower spread. --Deus Gladiorum 04:26, September 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Fallout one and two had the Ak-112, Fallout 3 had T-93 Sh. Both are based of the Kalashnikov. We'll see. I do want the R91, though. [[file:MadeMan2.png|30px|link=User:Scarface11235]] "Say 'ello to my little friend!" 14:23, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Chinese pistol, chinese assault rifle, R91 assault rifle, katana, infiltrator, Lincolms repeaters...just about every F3 weapon is present in the New Vegas game files, so its entirely possible that they'll just recicle a load of them and stick on some mods. However this would be a bit of a fail on obsidian's part as well its been down a dozen times already by modders. ...As have all the weapons listed by Mat Mod been created a dozen times over by modders too. Wyrmalla 22:35, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Seems everyone wants and agrees that there should be an assault rifle of some kind to appear, i wouldn't mind a unique R91 appearing, man did i love using the one i was able to bring back from operation anchorage (thanks gary 23!). Though theres no telling yet, they've been able to keep us in the dark on alot of content so far, but we'll see soon enough. --Mat mod 08:41, September 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * "i wouldn't mind a unique R91 appearing" ... Wanda? Wanda!? That would be awesome. I just checked the GECK and didn't see it though, so they'd have to add it back in. --Rooker75 01:11, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah Wanda would be nice, i'm a 360 player so I've always wondered about that gun. fingers crossed! Although the infiltrator would be nice too.. so many possibilities that could show up. Heck could be a totally new one! --Mat mod 06:23, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

SHIT!
Notice how it says there are new recipes waiting to be discovered? What if that includes some locations that can be destroyed like the Brotherhood Bunker? That'd be a waste of an expansion.Power Bonkers 21:21, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

That katana is GAY AS ALL HELL. Fucking weeaboo wet-dream. I can picture it now: Courier six swinging the thing around like it's a broken lamp. Shame on whoever thought it would be a good idea. SHAMEEEEE.

96.54.19.46 08:41, September 13, 2011 (UTC)Rusty Shackelford


 * This is not really the place for comments like that...The14th 23:59, September 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually, lots of people collect these swords. In a post-apocalyptic setting, it is only a matter of time until someone discovers that kind of quite durable weapon and uses it as it needs no ammo to scavange for. Against unarmed (eg. no guns) beasts and the like, I would surely prefer this kinda weapon over a metal pipe.Noctarius 15:26, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

No. Lots of people collect what they THINK is a katana. The vast majority are just cheaply made oversized cutlery for decorative effect. Metal pipes don't snap as easily. =)

Information
Is there anyway we can get ahold of more info about this DLC before it comes out?74.192.58.206 00:20, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

PLEASE don't tell me wild wasteland is....
Gonna factor into this, that would be so dumb. --Mat mod 06:25, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

why would it be dumb? Unless you just think the wild wasteland perk is dumb.. then thats a different story.. i dont have the perk but i definitely think its awesome. --DrunkenSushi 09:24, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Increased Level Cap?
Does Gun Runners increase the level cap?

Anyone know if the gun runners DLC is going to up the level cap like the other DLCs? That new Mad Bomber perk sounds great; but I'm wondering if I should hold off on leveling up so I can get it.

It wont increase the level cap, so best hold off on that leveling or start a new character if it's already at lv. 50. --Deus Gladiorum 04:38, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'm fairly certain when it says the mad bomber perk can be taught, it means somebody can teach you the perk in GRA, so no i don't think its a level perk --Mat mod 05:31, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think so, on formspring J.E. Sawyer implied that it would be a level perk: http://www.formspring.me/JESawyer/q/241588729527941958 Hope this helps to make up your mind --Deus Gladiorum 01:10, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Modders did it
Why would anybody pay for something that modders already did? WMX anyone?

Because mods aren't widely available for people playing the PS3/XBOX360 versions.Noctarius 15:29, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Next question. Why do you play Fallout on the console?

I shall answer that with a question: Y U NO SIGN?. 19:44, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Question 3. Why do people play any games on console?

There are a lot of reason (everybody seems to have their own), but one of those is financial. Some people can't afford to drop $1,000+ dollars (or equivalent currency) on a computer that can run games well, so buying an Xbox or some other console is a sounder financial move. Then, consider that there are a large amount of games (which are good) that are exclusively released on consoles, and the relatively small quantity of (good, graphically intensive) games available only on the PC, and the prospect of playing games on a console and is even more appealing. --Danaw167 01:23, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Except that it's entirely bullshit about the cost. My gaming PC cost no more to build than a brand new 360 or PS3. I&#39;m the best at space!

Pretty Expensive...
I'm all for earning what we pay for, but some of these weapons exceed over 21,000 caps. Just too expensive, kind of a bit of a middle finger considering I paid $4.00 to be financially locked out. This pretty much makes me wanna find a infinite cap glitch. --ToUniek 16:58, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Granted, 21,000 + caps is a little expensive, especially seeing as they aren’t really all that great of a weapon compared to others. The Medicine stick for example, only has a slightly increased damage (+6 dam) over a standard Brush gun. It’s a decent increase, but hardly worth 21,000 + caps.

As far as caps go, its really not that hard to make a lot of caps fast in this game. I don’t know how far along you are, but if you at a higher level one trip up black mountain should easily net you 20,000 caps worth of weapons to sell.

What I don’t get is the ones that are exactly the same as the regular weapons. For example, the 12.7 mm SMG vs. the 12.7 mm SMG (GRA) version. The Anti-Material rifle and Assault Carbine are the same as well. Its exactly the same weapon so what’s the point of them? ReapTheChaos 17:57, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

The point is that the new weapons have mode available for them. Apparently it was a technical thing they had to do to get the mods to work, and Chris apologized for it in an interview a couple weeks back. ---TheMalignancy 19:20, September 27, 2011 (GMT)


 * Ok I guess that would make sense. Thanks. ReapTheChaos 18:39, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

I found a glitch using the Commissary in Lonesome Road, up to 100,000 caps now. Just kept reselling and buying Riot Gear at half the price for full profit. --ToUniek 21:25, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Getting caps is trivial. I'm sitting at over 380,000 of 'em, every single one of which is legit, and I don't even madly hoard every tin can and wrench in the wastes! Protip: Sell ammo and chems. They weigh absolutely nothing and sell for quite a bit. I&#39;m the best at space!

Doesn't match up
I'm counting like 24 NEW weapons (not counting the GRA weapons, they aren't new) and 30 weapon mods. Where is the rest? Have some weapons not been found yet? Still hoping for some new shotguns dangit, you can't add so many new types of ammunition specifically for shotguns and NOT CREATE ANY MORE SHOTGUNS!--FAR-02C 17:44, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Only 1 silenced weapon?
I might have missed something but apparently the only guns in the GRA you can silence are the GRA Anti-Material Rifle and the GRA 12.7mm Sub Machine Gun, and apparently the silencer on the GRA Anti-Material Rifle's silencer DOESN'T EVEN SILENCE IT! (According to its wikia page). So really out of this whole pack, theres only 1 stealth weapon? What a joke...69.11.2.108 18:18, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

I haven't gone through them all yet, but Sleepytime is silenced. Also the Anti-material rifle is silenced, you can still hear it, but it doesnt alert everyone around you like they would normally. ReapTheChaos 18:51, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Well it says on the GRA Anti-Material Rifle page that the silencer doesn't work... You can also go directly to the attachment page for the GRA Anti-Material Rifle's silencer and it also says it doesn't silence the weapon... 69.11.2.108 18:55, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps the page is wrong? I don't know but I just fired both a regular Anti-Material rifle and a suppressed one and the regular one alerted the enemy about 20 ft. away whereas the suppressed one didn't. ReapTheChaos 19:03, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

So you can verify that if you happen to sneak up right behind an enemy, (close enough to pickpocket), you can fire a suppressed GRA Anti-Material Rifle and the enemy won't even notice? 69.11.2.108 19:06, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

No, as I said, I was about 20 ft. away. If you’re getting that close to someone why would you use a sniper rifle to kill them anyway? Also I didn’t do in depth tests on it, I just messed around for a couple minutes with it. I snuck up near a powder ganger and fired the suppressed version, he didn’t notice. I reloaded my save and did the same with the unsuppressed one, he was immediately alerted. I tried each way a few times and got the same results each time. ReapTheChaos 19:15, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lol, i just wanted to make sure this is fullproof, i'm stubborn like that. Thanks for checking it out though. 69.11.2.108 19:18, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

On a completely unrelated note, i find it kind of stupid that they have a badass nightvision scope in the game, and they only give it to the varmint rifle -_- 69.11.2.108 19:20, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * The Holorifle and Ratslayer both have night vision scopes. ReapTheChaos 19:32, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but the ratslayer is a varmint rifle, its a unique version, but it's still a weak turd... and i did not know about the Holorifle 69.11.2.108 19:35, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

The Holorifle if fully modded is ridiculously powerful. I sneak attacked Ghost of She with it using overcharged mf cells and killed it in two shots. The first shot took it down to one tick of health, given I had 100 energy weapons skill. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the K-9000 have a night scope or is it just tinted? --The Silence made me do it!!! 01:10, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

The GRA AMR has a suppressor mod, not a silencer mod. The difference is that it doesn't completely silence the AMR, it just lessens the noise (like in real life there's no such thing as silencers, just suppressors). So in other words, at range they still wont hear a thing, but if you're too close and you shoot it, prepare for that [Danger] icon to flash. --Deus Gladiorum 00:32, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Personally I just can't believe they did not add a silencer mod for the assault carbine... I mean it already is in the game (Lily has one) and a silencer is pretty much a signature mod for that weapon. --BlitzKrieg-BoB 11:44, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

I guess everyone would have at least one mod they would have liked to see put in the game but you get what you get. Personally I’m still confused why the unique weapons are so damn expensive, other unique weapons in the game weren’t anywhere near these new prices. I’ve already blown through about 500,000 caps and I still have a few left to buy. ReapTheChaos 16:16, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

GRA Katana at ?Mick and ralphs?
I have not yet gotten the GRA DLC, but i see that the katana is not purchaseable from the gun runners, but in stead you have to buy it at mick and ralphs.... Whats up with that? I mean because the DLC is called GUN RUNNER'S ARSENAL all the weapons should be art the gun runner's.

Well that and because i have killed mick and ralph.

Your source is incorrect. The gun runner robot has katana and katana mods in its inventory shuffle. As do other vendors.

Lol, just hack the game to get the items... Everybody does it on PC, but when you do it on a console everybody frowns XHunched 19:50, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Obsidian loves screwing people over. Better take your hate out on PC players who can use the console and GECK to create things for themselves, fix corrupted saves or cheat if they really feel like it. Why would you expect all the weapons to be available at Gun Runner's? It's not like the name of the mod is GUN RUNNER's ARSENAL. In Fallout you're so free to act however you want, except you aren't.

What the hell did Mick and Ralph do to you? Lol

Ill have to start a new game anyway because of the GRA challenges. About half of them I cant do because the people or things you’re supposed to kill are already dead in the game I’m on now. ReapTheChaos 20:14, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Obsidian hasn't done anything wrong... There was no reason to kill Mick & Ralph, it was never part of a quest, and Microsoft is the one who is all "Anti-Mod". Obsidian and Bethesda has never tried to stop people from modding their games on the console, its an extremely easy game to mod. If you knew what you were doing, you can actually spawn Mick & Ralph on xbox. When i'm bored i go to a damn casino and drop some Alphamale Deathclaws from my inventory and they tear shit up. Any item in the game that has a base id you can get on xbox. Last time i checked, NPC's had base ids. XHunched 20:18, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Theres a challenge for killing Caesar, but i've already killed him. All i need to do is use my mod tool, and lets say i have a coffee mug in my inventory or something. Use this wikia and go to Caesar's page, and replace the base id of the coffee mug with Caesar's base id. Start up the game, he will be in my inventory with an invalid picture. I push drop, abracadabra he appears infront of me. Then i kill him. Solved. XHunched 20:21, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Those mods just take the fun and challenge out of the game in my opinion. ReapTheChaos 20:35, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

I started using them after i beat the games a couple of times without cheating at all. I started getting bored and was looking for something else to do, believe it or not, if your creative you can do some pretty funny shit with mods. XHunched 20:38, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

PS3 Released yet?
When the heck is sony gonna get off it's lazy ass and put this and courier's stash up in the playstation store?!?!? Just got home from work, been waiting all day for this. Not patient..... --The Silence made me do it!!! 20:34, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

I have it! Oh wait... I'm on AwesomeBox. XHunched 20:38, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, if mine didn't die on me, twice, I'd still have one. --The Silence made me do it!!! 20:48, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

U gave up on it after it died the 2nd time!? I wish i'd done that. I gave up on the so called "AwesomeBox" after I bought my 5th one! & the 5th was the Elite!!! The only "Elite" part about it is that it lasted me 2 more months than the last regular one... I seriously hate the idea of having to pay a monthly subscription just so I can recieve updates for my games... Oh well, Microsofts gotta' make money somehow, like if they don't already...--38.120.11.197 21:11, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

It was the same one. It red ringed, I mailed it off, got it back, then it died again. I was in the middle of Fallout 3 at the time.--174.252.148.222 23:01, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Hey XHunched, what the heck is an AwesomeBox?? Is it new!? Oh man, never heard of it! I have heard of an Xbox however. i'm sure the AwesomeBox is better than an Xbox because Xbox is NO WHERE near Awesome. What games are on it?? --DrunkenSushi 21:22, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * I met a girl in Dallas once that had an AwesomeBox...ReapTheChaos 03:10, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Forza Awesomesport 3 is on it, and Forza Awesomesport 4 will be on it soon too. XHunched 21:59, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

...you don't have to pay the monthly subscription fee to receive updates. Either you're a tool or you're a PS3 owner doing some light trolling. (In which case, well done. You got me.) Also, in during consolewars. Idort here.

Waiting for Base IDS...
Yep... Waiting for people to update this damn site so i can mod my gamesave and get all the items from GRA that i want, i could go to Gun Runners and buy the stuff but thats too much work and i doubt they have 10000 rounds of each ammo type. Most of the weapons have Base IDS on this site already... but the ammo such as the .50 Explosive rounds don't :(. XHunched 22:03, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Seriously not a damn person is putting any base id's up for ammunition... >.< XHunched 00:34, September 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * You have to give it more then just a day. For Lonesome Road most of the BID's took almost a week to be put up. Just be patient and wait, or keep watching for the latest FNV VE release like me.--Alpha Lycos 02:41, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

A little rude aren’t you? If it so important to you then why don’t you look them up? Otherwise, if you expect other people do the work for you, then be patient. ReapTheChaos 03:08, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

All the chainsaw mods have identical Base ID's, someone please fix. XHunched 04:43, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

The "(GRA)" Suffix
I know that this page is for discussing how to improve the page itself, but before Cartman hits me on my fingers i need to get my opinion out.

Before the DLC was released Bergman said that stock weapons added to the game that was there before but with new mods was going to have the "(GRA)" suffix added to thier names so that players didn't get confused. That is understandble. But explain to me why EVERY SINGLE WEAPON added by this DLC bears this suffix, when it's highly unecessary? New weapons like the Sleepytyme(GRA), Bozar(GRA) or katana(GRA) don't need it it since how are we supossed to get confused? Call me a whiny faggot, but when a cool weapon like "Embrace of the Mantis King!" is called in-game "Embrace of the Mantis King! (GRA)" It kinda both ruins the joke and the immersion. Couldn't they just kept the notification in the effects menu of each weapon?

Too bad modding is only an option for the glorious PC master race.--109.58.156.152 07:16, September 28, 2011 (UTC)Unregistedsodd

Nevermind, Sawyer told me why. So that Casual players whouldn't get confused when doing the new Challenges. http://www.formspring.me/JESawyer/q/243388268731696352

--109.58.156.152 17:21, September 28, 2011 (UTC)Unregistedsodd

GRA Chainsaw's Weapon Mods have incorrect Base ID's
All of the mods for the GRA Chainsaw have identical Base ID's, requesting fix. XHunched 18:10, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Powder Charge (efficient)
That one seems to miss from the list here... It just replaced the "normal" powder charge in my crafting list after I installed GRA: it's just a normal powder charge (same damage, weight, appearance), but it requires 1 less dynamite stick to be crafted at a workbench and doesn't require the mad bomber perk like other explosives introduced with GRA. I don't know if it's better to create a specific page for it, or maybe just add specific notes in the powder charge's page.--79.41.234.116 18:31, September 29, 2011 (UTC)Thalon

achievements
while i have earned ALL my achievements on FNV, the gamer score hasn't added. if you wish to check, my account is Nekuth, if you check on xbox.com, it says i haven't earned 4 of them, however, checking on the xbox itself, it says i've earned them, but the score isn't added, my gamerscore should be 7505

Missing weapon entry: Cleansing Flame
There's a weapon missing from the list on the main Gun Runners Arsenal page. Cleansing Flame, the new flamer. There is a page for it on the wiki, but it doesn't appear to be linked from anywhere. I had to search for it specifically, and I only knew it was missing because I read a post on Bethesda's blog detailing the weapons in this add-on.--216.15.121.53 15:40, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Van Graffs
Okay so, I know the weapons/mods exclusive to the Silver Rush are supposed to appear in the Vendortron's inventory upon their death, but even after I killed them all, nothing happened. It's the 3rd time the Gun Runners' inventory resets, and still nothing. 3 unique weapons missed because some dumbass thought it was a good idea to give weapons to someone else, someone we need to kill/get hostile for 2 quests. Yeah, right. Thank you so much.

Achievements
It would be really nice if I could be given the gamerscore I've earned from the achievements. I hope they fix this really soon. 01:30, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Removed the 'fixed' part of the achivements, i did the 10k damage with GRA weapons, from 0, and it didn't sort the achievement out, HOWEVER! i didn't do the game online, will have to try that again


 * just did 10k damage with GRA weapons again, this time while online to xbox live, the achievement score hasn't been added 80.177.124.148 10:14, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

I got all the add-ons at once so I can play them with GRA weapons, first I got all the GRA achievments then the next day I played Honest Hearts and they reset, the challenges were still complete and bfore they reset they added to my total gamerscore but it said # out of 70 instead of 75 achievments unlocked, after they reset it said # out of 75 unlocked. Man thats annoying.--Roflguy227 05:05, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Nice of someone to remove the achievement bug without actually checking! my account still hasn't added the score, despite saying the quest is completed, and i have done the 10k damage with GRA weapons 3 times now! 80.177.124.148 10:07, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

what does the person mean when they wrote 'recover your profile'? 80.177.124.148 09:37, October 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * just deleted my gamertag and recovered it on my xbox, checked my achievement listings and it shows 4 of the 5 achievements need to be achieved, which i'll have to do later, but at least its sorted 80.177.124.148 09:32, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Unlimited Mini-Nukes from Gun Runners?
I've noticed that the special nukes seem to respawn for me from the Vendortron. It may just be a bug, but if that is the case, it would be worth noting in the Triva and possibly the Mini Nuke, Fat Man and Eugene pages. 24.224.119.53 18:50, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Hammerhead here, made some edits to the navbox for GRA, so voice your complaints with me. --Hammerhead18 23:43, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Issues
Ok. What happens if I kill Mick and Ralph AFTER I download GRA?

...Because I did, and now I can't find any of the weapons that were going to be sold there at Gun Runners, and I'm getting pissed off.

Serves you right, you violated a cardinal rule: Never kill a NPC who provides goods or services, (merchant, repair, doctor), unless absolutely unavoidable.DarthOrc 06:46, October 8, 2011 (UTC)DarthOrc

Well, I was attacked by a king who I accidentally hit with a shot, and then I had to kill him, then all of Freeside went after me, including Mick and Ralph. So, I had to kill them.

Did you try holstering your weapon? That can stop many fights. Otherwise, go to the previous save. (You DO save often...)68.25.86.213 21:38, October 8, 2011 (UTC)DarthOrc

Trophies
I completed a couple ★, and ★★ challenges on the PS3, and I haven't received any trophies at all. I even started a new profile, completed a challenge and still haven't gotten one. I've tried reverting to an older save on both profiles and nothing was fixed. Is this a similar problem that the 360 has and can this be fixed?

Mods
As of the release Version of GRA, ALL the NEW Mods aren't showing WHAT exactly they do to the Weapons, so one can't tell what the hell "Ripper carbide teeth" or "Improved Bolt for the AM-Rifle" or them Powerfist Parts actually do, only some of the new Parts have vanilla counterparts that one can use to 'assume' what the new GRA Mods do.

On the other hand, when I was under Level 16, installed GRA and went to Vendortron, it had all the GRA Weapons in the List, so needless to say that (way to early) I was running about with a AM-Rifle (GRA), pwning them Deathclaws. Well, also gotta say that I play on VERY HARD and HARDCORE, so getting a AM-Rifle below Level 16 is totally worth the money and helpfull.--178.4.231.179 01:43, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Energy Weapon Equivalent?
I'm not sure if this is the place for speculation, but any ideas on whether or not Bethesda will release Van Graff equivalent to GRA? It'd be nice to have some unique laser/plasma rifles laying about for me to pick up, since the EN weapon selection is rather limited, understandably so, since EN weapons were primarily military weapons.

Anyway, thoughts?

--PsyChuan 15:25, October 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * No, they will not. I forget exactly where this was said, so if someone could provide the source it would be appreciated, but they are done with New Vegas.  There will be no more DLC or patches (a shame, considering that GRA has flaws that need patching).  Just be content with the unique energy weapons added by GRA.  --Danaw167 21:47, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Freezing more frequently
Since I purchased the GRA on the 360 my games have been freezing much more often, like every other door at Hoover Dam. I'm at the New California Republic Correctional Facility and to get in I use the outhouse trick, and to get out I jump over the fences from the towers instead of going through the entrance building. I have to save at every fucking door now because it doesn't get to the auto save point when you're on the other side, it just turns black before the loading screen if I recall correctly. Anyone else got this too, and if so add it to the Bugs section? IsaacKronenFaust 16:08, November 9, 2011 (UTC)