Forum:Post-Game Legion

If one of the three endings (Mr. House, NCR, and Independent Courier) were to be taken as cannon, and assuming the Courier kills Caesar (either in-game or with the securitron attack on The Fort) and the Legate in his camp, then would Lucius be crowned as the new Caesar? I think it would be pretty interesting to see how he would rule the Legion. He may even bring the Legion to a more sensible and peaceful faction. What do you think? WilliamDouglasCampbell 15:01, September 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * assuming Lucius, Vulpes and all the rest weren't previously wiped out (same goes for named NCR soldiers) either faction could be practically decimated beyond repair and dissolve. Fallout: Shades of Grey, coming 2012 15:31, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I could definitely see the Legion collapsing once several of its leaders are killed, either by infighting by various factions in the Legion itself or whether groups like the 80s or random raider gangs and tribals start chipping in on Legion territory. As for Lucius being more "sensible and peaceful" I never really got that from speaking with his character. He is older and less rash than other Legionaries but he's still a brute at the core. As for the NCR... I don't think it would really collapse after losing 'named NCR soldiers' or large segments of its military. If the NCR lost its President and some of its army, I could see factions like the Crimson Caravan or independent mercenary groups filling in the power vacuum, especially if Raiders start attacking the weakened NCR --Fezgod 19:50, September 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * I was referring to ones like Oliver, Moore, Hsu etc. Obviously Kimball too. On a House save you can really damage the major powers :P Fallout: Shades of Grey, coming 2012 19:55, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

True, Mr House's plans are basically cripple the NCR government, probably to stop them from restricting travelers from visiting New Vegas once the NCR is kicked out. --Fezgod 17:14, September 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yet House keeps Kimball alive? I never understood that: surely with Kimball's obsessive case of manifest destiny on the Mojave House would want him out of the picture. I'd quite like to see the House ending become cannon. NCR is the obvious choice because the NCR endings are always cannon, Independent would be too hard to use without creating the Courier's story, which would piss off fans as it wouldn't be like their courier, and Legion just won't be cannon--it'd be quite the shocker if it was though! Therefore House's ending would be unique and interesting if the lore of the Mojave wastes are ever explored again. Especially depending on how the courier handles General Oliver: either new vegas becomes an enemy of the NCR/branded as terrorists, partners with some technologies going to the NCR or the NCR say they'll be back to claim Hoover Dam later... WilliamDouglasCampbell 22:07, September 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Kimball is a scapegoat, House conquers Hoover Dam and drives the army out of the Mojave, the people of the NCR blame Kimball for the defeat. The only real difference in having Kimball die is about an extra year of decreased revenue, and Oliver's death makes no difference at all :P dialogue with House is intriguing. I also think House's ending should be canon, I think civilians and tourists will visit Vegas but the army wouldn't risk it a re-invasion. Not with all those upgraded Securitrons, the Courier's influence across the Mojave would probably create other threats too: Primm and Novac would resist the NCR for example. Fallout: Shades of Grey, coming 2012 22:17, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Ha, playing the Independent faction is hilarious because you can just wipe everybody out. I decided to keep the NCR and the Bro'hood because I like the Bro'hood and because the NCR control half the Mojave. I just launched a hit against the fort with Boone and ED-E and wiped the floor. In my ending, the only named Legion Character who survived was Lanius because I used Speech to tell him to go stuff himself back East. So basically, the Legion falls apart and ravages Arizona, Utah and Kansas because their leader is a raging loonie :D / Q-35 09:15, September 19, 2011 (UTC)