Talk:Firelance/Archive 2

A MORE DETAILED ACCOUNT of HOW to get the FIRELANCE
I have been asked for a more detailed explanation of how to get a FIRELANCE so here is my reply.I hope this helps. Hi, It is not possible to tell if you have already triggered this event without seeing it happen.In which case some NPC has picked up the weapon and you may never find it.

The only certain way is not what you may want to do.
Go back to the AUTO SAVE at the start of the game, the one where you are on Level 1 and just leaving the vault. You don`t need any weapons or luck levels, just leave the vault. Go down the slope from vault 101 until you reach the road. Turn sharp right on the road and walk SOUTH up the hill. You will come to a road block with a view of the broken overpass Turn sharp right and walk WEST 7 running paces through a gap in the rocks.Turn NW and run WEST by NORTHWEST 57 running paces up the slope, chased by a MOLE RAT.IGNORE.It will leave you alone before you get to where you want to be.This will take you on a downslope and in sight of the SILO and DUTCH barn where all the Wasteland Random events can take place inside the BARN which should be facing you. Not the entrance but the rear with the upper loft exit. The run from Vault 101 door to the save point before the DUTCH BARN will take you 50 seconds. SAVE at this point 15 paces before reaching the rear of the BARN. Check that you have saved  more than 14 paces from the rear of the barn.Now start running towards the barn with your finger on the save button.If red or green bars light on your HP indicator during your approach to the barn you have triggered a random event inside the barn and will not get the Firelance on that run as the FIRELANCE event is a random event all of its own and does not register on HP. If you want to see what randon event you have triggered you can look though gaps in the broken boards at the rear of the barn. If on a run the random Firelance event does appaer in the sky coming from your right and from the NORTH hit the save button before it bursts over the barn.If it does not appear reload from your save point and continue running and reloading until the FIRELANCE event appears. Alternatively you can take more time and explore every single random event that appears. Some are amusing ! all will appear inside the barn. However, after a number of reloads and runs to the barn one of your runs will trigger the Firelance to appear.It might take between 20 and 70 runs before the Firelance will appear or some of you will get it on the first run because of its random nature. Remember,be ready to hit the save button the instant you see a puffy trail of smoke appear in the sky as you only have 1/2 a second at most to save the appearance.This FIRELANCE appearance is itself  a random event and having saved it you can then reload and explore the randomness of the Firelance appearances and see the ammo and blaster fall in different places every time. Sometimes it will fall all around you hitting the ground to the sound of falling metal,at other times it will fall further, soundlessly, some distance away.Sometimes you can watch it hit the ground around you and bounce 10 or more feet back into the air before coming to rest. Best of luck 1000hrs Fallout3 UK
 * 1) Exit Vault 101 on level 1.8 and level 2.5 will then kick in.

Still getting guys complaining they can`t get the FIRELANCE
Guy says he can`t get the Firelance after 50 attempts at the Dutch Barn, 5 litres of Coke, 4 snorks,a rack of beer, a sack of girls and an XBOX thrown out of the Window. 50 attempts just won`t cut it man..! '''It can take up to 100 attempts to guarantee the event takes place.--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 19:13, 22 July 2009 (UTC).

Sorry for my non-perfect english in advance but i just want to say. In some constellations you never get the firelance because you have already triggered the firelance encounter and you do not received it.

I guess there are so many explosions and other loud sounds in the game, especially when you started a new game, that you are overwhelmed by everything and you could not separate the firelance explosion in the sky from other explosions.

I haveve already read this article and have no knowledge about this special weapon at all and just thought "oh that´s an explosion like every one else" but it was the firelance event you heard.

So i think to get this weapon surely you have to start a new game and and try to get the firelance at the Dutch Barn as described above.

Good Luck

Randomly walked INTO the Firelance
I was on my second playthrough (an evil) and walked up to vault 106 on one of my many explorations and much to my surprise I find alien power cells scattered all over the place. At that time I knew about the alien blaster but not the firelance so I were rather perplexed as to why there were alien power cells there. So I walk around with dogmeat and pick them up with the help of him and when I've collected 22 of them I hear the sound of you walking into a small object,pushing it around and there it was! I was like WTF is that? Took it up and checked out the wiki and a big smile spread across my face.

FIRELANCE - FORCED RANDOM ENCOUNTER AT THE SUPERDUPER MART
Firelance at the SuperDuper Mart is a pain in the Arse..As if its not difficult enough to get a Firelance event here at all on the Xbox the gun along with most of the ammo can land of the flat front porch  of the building and there is nothing you or Dogmeat can do about it. Some of the ammo can be seen hung up in the air at the roof height which if shot at can just as easily go further over the roof. The Ammo can be viewed on the roof at night by looking through a scope while standing on top of the bank to the east.--If anyone with an XBOX has any idea how to get the ammo down it would be interesting to hear about it.ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUKxbox360  20:08, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Just bring plenty of frag grenades and hopefully you'll knock it down. Save before doing this though, obviously.

FIRELANCE and the PYROMANIAC PERK Lvl. 15
Enhance your favorite weapon with this PERK. Shoots the Arse off the Alien Blaster. AlIEN BLASTER :Dam 65 .FIRELANCE before enhancement DAM 54. After the Pyro PERK an insane 84. Burn the M.F`s into a heap of molten slag. Enjoy it ! --ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 07:39, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Firelance Damage with additional skills and perks You can increase both the Alien Blaster and Firelance damage by the addition of additional skills and Perks such as Energy weapons to 100 and Small guns to 100 during level upgrades.The Alien Blaster peaks at around Dam: 90 while the Firelance peaks at around Dam: 120 if you add on the Pyromaniac Perk which the Firelance seems specifically designed for..,--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 06:14, 13 July 2009 (UTC) there s another way to get firelance ammo. if you have the alian blaster when you run into raiders destroy all and each of there weapon then kill one of them then take all his inventory then put your alian blaster and one alian ammo on his body then wait for one of the other raider to pick up the blaster and ammo from the body then kill the raider that picked up the inventory and then search his body you will see one ammo and the blaster take them both and then look into you inventory you will see that your alian ammo increased. the increase in ammo is random and doesnt work each time but most of the time. the maximum i got in one shot was 10. now i have 600 alian ammo.

FIRELANCE and LUCK LEVELS
After hundreds of attempts now at various luck levels. It seems that the Firelance event is not as previously thought luck dependent anymore than any other random event is luck dependent but can occur at any of a number of sites where random events take place.It is not known how many of these sites there are but they are dotted all over the wasteland.Neither does luck levels control the ammo or Blaster falling in accessible or inaccessible places. Bottom of the Potomac river is a great hoot for those who like exploring river beds !

Forcing a Second Firelance ! XBOX 360 Dream on!!!!
I attempted to see if a second Firelance event could be forced. 100 seconds after leaving Vault 101 ,Lvl 2 Lck 10 armed only with the 10mm pistol I saved and forced a Firelance at the SUPER DUPER MART and on the 36th attempt the Firelance appeared, unusually the smoke trail coming from the east,the twin explosions over the car park and as usual had to fight two raiders to get the weapon.For some reason the girl raider always seems to find the weapon first.(are girls brighter than boys ?) Maybe! Leaving this site I fast travelled back to Vault 101 then ran to the rear of 101 above the cliffs to the DUTCH BARN ,saving 20 paces before the rear of the barn.The random encounters are triggered 14 running paces from the Barn centre and always appear inside the barn except for the Firelance which explodes over the top of the barn  with the smoke trail coming from the north. After 300 attempts at a second forced Firelance encounter I have to conclude that only one Firelance event occurs during the course of the game although 300 failed attempts is not proof.The most frequent triggered event at this location ( but never seen on first attempts ) were bright flash explosions in the wasteland some 50 running paces past the barn to the North. On visitng these sites all I usually encounted was a viscous dog. Another event to occur in the barn is a very loud bright flash explosion which fills the interior of the barn, no Rads, which leaves a Wastelander running from the barn to the south.( A failed suicide bomber ?) These bright flash explosions have no flames or smoke but are very large and loud...again sorry for the long story..--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 06:03, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Firelance ammo with and without the Scrounger Perk.
I spent time trying out the Firelance encouter with various luck levels at level 2 when you cannot get the scrounger perk and with dogmeat can usually find 24 ammo cells. Tried with the scrounger perk which can be obtained at Level 8 and found rhe same results Max of 24 cells. Lvl 8 r/o Vault 101 : Dutch barn Lck 2 Chance of a Firelance 1.49% or 1 in 69 attempts. The ammo will still spray at random all over the barn and surrounding area.Some can be found on top the stairs insdie the barn.--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 13:49, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I was heading over to the Republic of Dave when I had noticed the I had gotten the firelance encounter and i had managed to pick up some 20-22 Alien Power Cells. I had not yet chosen the Scrounger perk, in fact i was going to choose that perk next. I'm pretty sure that this is the same bug that affected the perk, Grim Reaper's Sprint. however it may be possible that, without the perk, you have a chance at a total of 24, and having the perk garuntees it.--Master of cheeZ 05:03, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh, nvm, last time i read this page it said that the number of power cells was affected by the scrounger perk.+++You have given be another task..To try the scrounger perk on Firelance ammo..The best place I know of is the Dutch Barn at the rear of Vault 101.The ammo does not get hung up there but there can be a problem with it bouncing downhill into Mole Rat territory.lol...--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 14:57, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

How many Random event sites are there for the Firelance ?
XBOX360 - Not known ! .There is as yet no comprehensive catalogue of possible trigger sites. A random event site is surrounded by a circular trigger field set at about 25 running paces out from the event site.Usually the first thing you will know about a site is when you trigger the field and the red or green bars light up. Scanning a known location site with a scope from outside the field is of no help. Once you have entered a trigger field whatever appears in that field also knows you are there unless you are in hidden mode. Unce triggered most fields do not reset. Some random events are more likely to happen at a location than others and become very repetitive and annoying when searching for rarer events like Ben Canning, the three mines, Giant Rad Scorps fighting ants or the desired Firelance. Burning barrels seem common events as do the 4 raiders beating up that stupid guy who stands in the centre who then attacks you if you go and try to break it up. Who thought this one up? Some one with a Masochistic tendency ?. So it seems from my experience the chances of getting a Firelance is about as even as getting Ben Canning, the Useless shotgun robber, the three mines or the dead Chinese commando with the radio who is standing up when he first appears but collapses as you watch.'''Why Bethesda has it in for the Chinese I don`t know. We eat Chinese food and enjoy, and every dam thing at home has made in the PRC or has Made in China stamped on it..Without the Chinese our house in the UK would be empty although a lot of electrical gear appears to be CRAP..and for all you lovely guys and dolls in the U.S.of A. your lovely comfortable Skechers shoes, Well! the`re made in CHINA as well !!!! '''!!!!--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 08:06, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Random Encounter sites at the PIT.
How many, if any random encounter sites are there at the pit.`Cause if random encounters sites there aint, then there aint no Firelance at the PIT. ( ain't Pronunciation: \ˈānt\ Etymology: contraction of `are not` Date: c 1749 England.) --ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 19:18, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Firelance Stolen from Megaton whilst away at Pittsburgh, formerly Pittsburro c1794
XBOX 360: Whilst away on a "holiday" after a suggestion by that bastard Werner that Pittsburgh needed my help I left my Firelance and Alien blaster in my bedside cabinet at my Megaton House. As if getting the Firelance is not difficult enough when I return from my sojourn in that Hell hole the Firelance had been stolen along with the ammo.Is this a glitch ? A number of guys have had their gear go missing from various lockers of this house ,the locker nearest the door being the prime suspect but this time it was upstairs by the bed..So I had to spend out caps on a second mission to the PIT. This time I took all my gear with me and stashed it all in a dead Raider shot by Werner at the rail head at the Pitssburgh side of the tunnel.( Later this Werner guy when he fails to get his way says, " Fuck the raiders,Fuck the slaves and Fuck you to you, Fucker " then runs off ..I can`t wait to meet up with him again and then I will show him what a real Fucker is like...) anyway  my gear was still in the dead body when I finished my visit so am now back in the Wasteland game with Capt.Adams favourite show off piece. (anybody out there remember Cpt.Adams from the film " Forbidden Planet" with " Robbie the Robot ?")  and has anyone else here had their weapon stolen from a locker?--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 06:47, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

WADSWORTH! Although some items do disappear from the megaton house, for me it was the Legendary Giant Teddy Bear (I know, absolutely devastating for teddy bear collectors), however wadsworth is know to steal some things, so kill him.--Master of cheeZ 19:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Is that right? That son of a bitch must have took my Metal Blaster!

Another spawn location
i was looking at all the places listed to possibly spawn the weapon and ended up failing completely. i was about to give up when i noticed a random encounter had spawned a good distance from a previous save. i saved right before the path to Broadcast Tower LP8 coming from the east side (Recling Groves Resort Homes)i walked north west from the tower and spawned it under the destroyed monorail tracks right next to the freeway. it should be a spot where the dirt seems lighter than usual. i managed to spawn a few good random encounters like Ben Canning, The Radscorpion vs ant, The deathclaw schematic, and Laszlo Radford. I really wouldnt recommend this spot cause it was so damn hard to find the gun in the rubble and trees and i had to resort to talon company mercs to find it. i found it at lv. 20 luck 8 on Xbox 360. THIS IS NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE RANDOM ENCOUNTER NEAR THE GATE OF THE THE TOWER! --Fallout3slayer

Another Location Wilhem's Wharf
I was just trying to walk to Arlington national cemetery when I noticed glowing things on the ground ahead being curious i went ahead and found they where alien power cells. So I went and got dogmeat asked him to find a weapon and he found the weapon. Everything was pretty spread out.The location that i found it was NW of Wilhem's wharf down a alleyway surrounded by a big brick wall.(some power cells where on top of the wall)Bt Me 02:59, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I also encountered it here. I was walking along the brick wall mentioned above when my geiger counter told me I was gaining a small amount of rads. I knew that the Firelance event causes the immediate area to be surrounded by Radiation for a short time, so I sent Dogmeat looking for ammo and was given an alien power cell. After some searching, I found the Firelance behind a destroyed car at the base of the wall.

Another location - SE of Tenpenny Tower
Was exploring the area outside of Tenpenny Tower, and after leaving Willie's Grocer and going south towards the ruined office building, the event occurs. About ~20 power cells lie outside the ruins and the Firelance and 2 more power cells are on the ground inside the ruins.
 * The random encounter spots are all over the map, and the Firelance event could possibly happen at any one of them. It's a futile endeavour to find out which ones could possibly spawn it. --MadCat221 14:19, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I found it in that exact position. I didn't actually see the event, but I just wandered down to the ruined building, and saw these strange yellow cigarette-sized capsules. I realised that I'd found Firelance. Are we totally sure that these are 100% random? Could something else effect where they appear? Game progressions, skills, time played, Karma, etc.? --Kalem 06:25, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Another location the flooded metro
I went there once there a junkie and some green explosion were i found 23 alien power cells but no firelance

I really should delete all of these. THEY CAN APPEAR AT ANY RANDOM ENCOUNTER LOCATION. WE NOT NEED YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCES OF FINDING IT HERE. Fat Man Spoon 14:27, 4 July 2009 (UTC) Like all things it`s a matter of personal taste: It`s a bit like life: blogging;.I read a lot.Some of them are informative, some funny but all very personal.Why not start by deleating YOUR life.We know that they can appear at random encounters but do you know just how many Fallout3 explorers have never even encountered even one? I played over 400 hrs before I had even heard of a Firelance and many who have still have not found one.--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 05:31, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I never thought about it that way, and now I feel like a douche. Lord Spoonfield III 11:10, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Firelance Location
Alright guys heres the deal.. Go northwest of clifftop shacks like a little northeast and you'll reach a pit or a big crater (THIS DOSEN'T REQUIRE A HIGH LUCK). Try going at night and you'll discover a big green explosion in the sky and you'll find the alien power cells/the firelance. If you find another random encounter try traveling there at night or the next day.

CLIFF TOP SHACK FORCED RANDOM SITE LOCATION - FIRELANCE
REF: Article by 65.211.20.252 17:44, 7 July 2009 (UTC). Went to cliff top shacks and after stumbling around through dangerous passes and narrow gorges heading generally NE I eventually located the steep path leading down into a crater with a trigger field set just before the top, You can`t miss it.It has three  RAD 1 bubbling,smoking pools at the bottom with a good view of the surrounding cliffs and scorched pine trees and a great view of the sky if you look straight up lmho.Save for this random location 23 running paces in the narrowest part of the gorge before the crater pool. Most random events will occur at the bottom of the pit by the pools including the injured Death Claw. The Firelance event occurs at the rate of 1 in 82 attempts or 1.2% after running at Lvl 2 straight from Vault 101. Good luck looking for the Firelance in that jumble of rocks and also some of the ammo may be scattered in the RAD 1 pools.I`d swear I`ve left some of the ammo  still on top that 300 foot cliff to the rear.Any one good at rock climbing? no path up !.--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 16:57, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Firelance Strength
Is the Firelance stronger than the Alien Blaster because they both have the same damage and critical chance strongerand since the firelance is unique I thought it would be stronger .--BruteCheiftain 10:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

firelance
It is stronger because it does burn damage like the flamer after you hit them.

Don't Confuse the random encounter sound with a car bomb
About a week ago, I heard what I presumed to be a car explosion from far away. Luckily, I remembered exactly where I was when this occured. At the time I thought it was nothing special. Then I found out about a weapon called firelance and how the random encounter works. I got Dogmeat from the junkyard and went to the previously mentioned area. Sure enough, 1 minute later, I found firelance. Good luck to all.--68.229.37.136 02:56, 7 July 2009 (UTC)Accipe Hoc

Confusing Appearances of the Firelance
The encounter is so random and so infrequent that other than forced encounters with the XBOX360 most wasteland wanderers are never going to see this event.The average rate of a Firelance appearance is around 1 in 60 at a random location site so unless you visit around 60 random encounter sites during the course of the game you will be most unlikely to find this weapon. The average player plays to achieve the "end game"  not delay the end game by wandering round the wasteland for tens of hours.I spent around 60 hours to end the game at my first ettempt and never encountered a Firelance until I read about it on Wiki Fallout and then it was not made clear how to force an encounter.On the second attempt I spent over 400 hours in the wasteland, still without an encounter until I read about random encounter sites, saving, and then repeating the random encounters until the Firlance puts in an appearance.Then luck levels were introduced and so I have always set luck on level 10. At the WKML broadcast station, the one with the three tall masts and a undamaged concrete building at Lvl 2, Lck 10,  a Firelance has appeared twice during the first visit. With Lck on 1 it took 92 attempts to get this same event to appear so perhaps luck controls the rate of appearance ?. If encounters are not forced by the player then they are going to be triggered as the player passes a Random Encounter site at a distanced of 14 running paces. Since the player is not expecting an encounter then the arching smoke trial which usually runs North to South except at Anchorage War Memeorial may not be seen and nor may the twin sky explosions. All that may be heard is a rushing noise, an explosion and the sound of falling metal which comes from the pieces of the "Alien craft"  breaking up but which are never found except for the gun and ammo. I have only ever found 1 piece of ammo stuck in the sky and I shot that down with the 10mm pistol that I got from vault 101 while the Firelance so looks like the colour of the rocks and soil that dog meat is often needed to find it unless you can encourage another player into the area when they will know where it is and pick it up leaving you with the problem of getting it off them.....Sorry if the story is a bit long but so is the problem of obtaining this allusive weapon. --ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 05:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Float on O' Firelance
This is my personal experience. As well as an additional drop location.

Near the MDPL-13 Power Station I had the Firelance Drop. I was lv7 wit luck 1.

After watching a smoking arc in the sky I headed towards the Power Station. I arrived at the top of a tree spotted hill that looks down on Power station. To the west is A broken broadcasting tower, to the east is where the Radroach King sits, and to the norther-ish is the "Derelict Power Station".

So back to what happened. Upon arriving at the top of said hill I looked up and saw many Alien Power Cells floating in the sky. The path of them lead to both the east and west. I found that the western direction was dead ended at the broken broadcasting tower. Following east I head down the hill along the floating power cell path in the sky. I come to a point where a few cells are actually close to the ground. It finally dead ends at a pile of rocks. All I can hear is the sound of metal clanking on the rocks, but no firelance in sight. my best guess is that on the downward arc to the ground that the gun clipped through the rocks and is now stuck inside.

I've yet to make an attempt with Dogmeat to remove it. I'm also curious if a disarmed raider could pick it up. ( An armed Raider entering the area will know where it is and will pick it up./Pers Obs.--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 06:18, 7 July 2009 (UTC) )

I feel that my story will at least have provided info on another drop location. On that note if anyone has had a similar situation or solution that would also be helpful.

--Terane v2 98.127.194.129 03:32, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Clifftop Shacks
First want to thank everyone for listing their own experiences triggering this event. Would not have been able to find teh Firelance without your help.

After playing approx. 190 hours and at level 28 with Luck 10, had found every marked location on the map and was giving up hope of finding this weapon. I was beginning to think I had just triggered this event early in the game but had missed it, not knowing what to listen/look for, and that it was now lost to the wastes.

This discussion board gave me hope by explaining that on the extreme western and northwestern areas of the map there are plenty of unexplored spots that trigger random encounters, so I set up a trail that went from Yao Gai caves north to Raven Rock, and then East along the northern border of the map until reaching the clifftop shacks.

Approaching the cliftop shacks from the northwest, there are a couple of north/south running canyons that run adjacent to the shacks. The most narrow canyon, immediately west of the shacks, is where my Firelance event was triggered. Did not see any lights, but heard what sounded like the whining of a jet engine followed by an explosion and knew that the event had occurred. Saved game, then told Dogmeat to find ammo. He ran into the narrow canyon, which opens up into a area walled off by the cliffs and featuring a bunch of very shallow radiation pools.

Some of the Alien Blaster ammo was scattered around the pools, and some of the ammo ended up on top of the adjacent cliffs. The Firelance itself landed on top of a big rock in the radiation pool area.

Thanks again to everyone for their help.

65.211.20.252 17:44, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

How to see the Firelance at its best and soonest -70 Seconds after leaving Vault 101 at the DUTCH BARN RANDOM SPAWN SITE.FORCED FIRELANCE
Great Story about the cliff top shack. Just goes to show that there is hope in the Wasteland afterall. I am not sure how many random encounter sites there are in Wasteland but it looks as though some wanderers may have to visit over 100 before the odds of this random event occuring will trigger. If you want to see the Firelance event in all its glory then go back to the auto save in level 1 at Vault 101 .The one where you leave the vault door, turn right once you hit the road below the vault entrance, go up the road from the vault passing between the two burnt out cars, and before you reach the road block level 2 will trigger. The broken flyover road is in front of you. Once you reach the road block near the top of the hill and before the flyover ,turn sharp right though a gap in the rocks  and run W by NW up the hill,probably chased by a Mole rat, ignore! Once at the top if the hill you will see a domed silo to the right of a Dutch barn on the downslope in front of you. From the time of leaving 101 to arriving should be around 70 seconds. Save the game 20 paces from the Rear of the Barn and start your runs and reload from the saved point. Check that you have random events appearing inside the barn to be sure you are not too close to the barn to have already triggered the random encounter. At between 60 and 80 runs you will encounter almosy every possible random event in the wasteland ( some of them are funny like the guy that tries to rob you with a sawn off shotgun with no ammo!).One of thses events will be the Firelance coming from your north side which will explode in two balls of light over the barn one of which will be a blue/green swirl of ammo about the diameter of the barn wall.BEST SEEN AT NIGHT !. Be ready for the sonic entrance sound of the event and puffy fast moving arching trail of smoke and hit the SAVE BUTTON before it explodes. As the position of the explosions is also random you will see variations in relative location of the sky explosions which will alter the positions of the ammo and Firelance fall.Look carefully and you will see some ammo bounce 10 of more feet back into the air (to the sound of falling metal)and roll into any shallow pit or down any slope that happens to be nearby. Some may roll down the hill to the West.You will also see the car to the RHS of the barn rock from side to side is it gets hit. At this barn the ammo can also fall though the broken roof and the Firelance can sometimes be found wedged between the beams up the stair.The ammo cannot get stuck on the barn roof because of the roof pitch.'''Congratulations ! ''' You should now have a saved Firelance event on your console. Good Luck to you! it took me 7 months starting in October 2008 !.PS it can take half an hour or more to reload and make the necessary number of runs before the Firelance appears,and if you can`t find the Firelance and all the 24 cells there is always dogmeat to sniff them out.--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 10:18, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Firelance at Red Racer
When I was on the nuka cola clear side mission, i was on my way to ledoux to give him the formula, and i saw a full moon so I pulled out the reservists rifle and shot at it. All of a sudden, I saw a steak go across the screen. I looked for what it was because I had never heard of the firelance or the event leading to it, and I found something glowing in the dark. It turned out to be a power cell, and the firelance was nearby. I had the alien blaster already, so I had around 134 rounds for it.24.141.57.124 23:01, 8 July 2009 (UTC)+++++ I had a Red Racer when I was a kid.I remember age around 5 riding down a steep bank in our back garden in the port of  Southampton, UK and flying thru the air..I woke up with the cat licking my face. ratflmao..That night Martin Lutz and his EPR GR 210 Squadron out of France filled our back garden with incendiary bombs..He was later killed .27.09.1940: Target Parnall Yate: Epr Gr 210. :Bf 110D-3, Wnr.3378, S9+DH of St/Epr Gr 210 Gruppenkommandeur. Martin Lutz (F) :killed attacking Bristol City. Bit of a digression..--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 13:58, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

FIRELANCE at PITTSBURGH
Come on all you clever guys out there..Have any of you managed to spawn a FIRELANCE at PITTSBURGH..If you have, tell us where and do say hello to that bastard Werner for me and tell him I`ll be seeing him shortly !!!--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 06:50, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

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is this a problem
i am at level 20 and at the last quest but no firelance i have explored most of the capital wasteland is this a problem

No, you're just VERY unlucky. Spoon 00:00, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I must be unlucky too. I have the same setup as him. My luck is 6 so ill work on getting it up.--Radraider 00:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I didn't know luck factored into it, when I said 'unlucky', I meant REAL luck. Spoon 00:22, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

level 10 luck 6 at clifftop shacks (arriving from the South), not 10 minutes after picking up alien blaster. had to use dogmeat

i have it worse, i am level 30 with luck 9 amd dont have it

i think we all just missed the sound and the crash. i'm lvl 20 wit 10 luck. i hear random explosions soooo (Ramenlover250 02:04, 23 July 2009 (UTC))

modesti train yard, luck 4
so luck clearly doesn't have anything to do getting the random event. also, i hadn't even heard of this weapon until my fortunate little "accident." wooooo!+++++

Luck and the Firelance event --ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 09:18, 14 July 2009 (UTC)).
'''It`s still not known what if any part luck level plays in this event .There is insufficient data of these occurences to attempt to second guess this answer. I played the first game in October for 60 hours,:No Firelance.The second game in December for 400 hours:No Firelance. It`s not unlucky, its just that I didn`t visit the required number of random event locations to get my percentage of an encounter high enough to guarantee an appearance. The chance of this event accuring at any one random site location is approximately 60 to 1 but some sites like Super Duper Mart seems to be around 80 to 1.It plain terms what this means is that 80 players have all to visit Super Duper Mart before one of them shouts"I got this weird thing happen to me " and not even know what the blue ammo cells are for and perhaps never even know that a difficult to see gun (even if you know it is there ) was involved, while the other 79 either don`t believe him or can`t understand what this lunacy is all about. As Clint would say ,""Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk? ".the honest answer:No! I wouldn`t bet on it.--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 07:35, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

not just in main game
well everyone im here to tell you that the firelance isnt just in the main game it can also happen in the pitt and pointlookout expansions

Is this for real??? That would be bullshit if it happens in the pitt... BloodOmelet July 11, 2009 (UTC) 22:21

Where is the location of the random event site at Pittsburg that will allow a Firelance appearance without cheating.XBOX 360
WHERE?--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 07:01, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to totally miss it
I was reading on this but im afraid I totall ymissed the event and didnt pay no attention and just kept right on exploring the wasteland is it rlly easy to miss if your not payinga attention

When I found the encounter, I missed the explosion visually. I heard it, and I'm hard of hearing. So seeing it might be a problem, but hearing it is another story. As soon as you hear the sound, look to the sky (in all dramatic sense).

=== It`s easy to complete the game without exploring even a fraction of the random event locations in the wasteland so I would suspect the majority of players who only take the Main Quests and a few Side Quests  have never ever found a Firelance since it might take encountering up to 80 or more Random event locations before the event triggers .Hence the weapon is considerd rare...............How many for instance bother to complete Oasis and Bob or is it Howard ? --ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 06:04, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

I got one.
I just got this game today and had only 6 luck, and found it lying on the ground at the war memorial place. I only managed to pick up 10 little capsule things too, I didn't know how many there were, and I even almost sold it before my friend told me it was rare. Actually, I played and my game crashed as I went up there, something explody it seemed, I don't remember. I installed the patch, and went back, it was there. I may have a saved file of the location.

i found power cells at the bethsada ruins. and on another profile i found it east of oasis.

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There are a few possibilities here.Did you get to Anchorage War Memorial and miss the re-entry sound and if you did then you will find a number of ammo cells still at the bottom of the Potomac River at the Memorial. Jump off the `SW end opposite the jetty and search the river bottom by either diving down and risk drowing or get Dog Meat to do it for you.He`s good at diving. Look for a total of 24 cells. The weapon is good for defeating Death Claws so save it and all  ammo  for the Death Claw Sanctuaryand Olde Olney.(Remember to look for the delivery note alongside the dead driver on the steps at Olded Orney for more Nuka Cola Quantum).Good luck!--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 05:55, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

NEW LOCATION AND INFO
i have just gotten the alien blaster about 2 days before the firelace all about 1 month ago. it was about 1 am fallout time and i was walking west i think of old olney i see a gas station (with one of those red rocket ships) and i hear an explosion and i thought i was on crack everything was sooo dark and after remembering about the firelance i was like :O OH SHIT so i walked and looked around for half an hour and i find it about 1/4 of a mile away from the explosion. Along with a total of 8 ammo just today i went back to the place by accident and in a 2 mile radius i found another 11 ammo :D good luck finding it oh another thing i only have about 35 energy weapons at level 20 and no DLC and my blaster does 72 damage with 1/20 of the bar depleted yet the firelance with a full bar only does 62 damage....yes fire is cool but it doesnt beeat an extra 10 damage

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Could try adding the Pyromaniac Perk ?.--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 06:14, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Temple of the union (PC)
Found the firelance at the temple of the union, a lot of the powercells were at unreachable places (thank you no clip) but the weapon itself was in a reachable place. Luck is at 7, so I doubt it effects this.

Temple of the union (PC)
Found the firelance at the temple of the union, a lot of the powercells were at unreachable places (thank you no clip) but the weapon itself was in a reachable place. Luck is at 7, so I doubt it effects this. --174.21.112.144 12:21, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Got it!
Level 24, luck 8, 35 hours into character. Forced the encounter at Broadcast Tower KB5, which wasn't the best choice because of the terrain obscuring some of the ammo, but the ammo itself isn't as extraordinarily rare as the weapon. With this character, it should be noted i've powered through the main quest and Broken Steel, only diverting for bobbleheads and unique weapons, and had only triggered a dozen random encounters at the absolute most. I gets where I'm going and tend to fast travel everywhere else. This is in constrast with a 100-hour character with which i never (knowingly) triggered the event. I could've missed it in my ignorance.

I just hope that the Firelance stays a one-shot encounter after Mothership Zeta comes out. Fresh Alien Blasters for repair fodder, that'd be great, but this weapon's rarity is its appeal. I already have over 400 APCs and part of me wishes the player could dual-wield pistols. I just finished Who Dares Wins and have two Alien Blasters and a Firelance. -firefall 24.254.47.155 14:11, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

got it at early level....
1 hour into charactor, level 4... o.0

ran into a raider with it that just picked it up

Got it.
lvl 6, luck 1, war memorial.

Didn't see the explosion, but luckily found ammo, nearly missed it! Got dogmeat, found weapon and ammo etc.

BTW, I got v lucky, I have never tried to get it, don't know random encounter locations etc. I think I had two or three random encounters before, idk.

92.20.108.37 13:24, 15 July 2009 (UTC) Did you get all 24 ammo cells or are some of them still at the bottom of the Potomac.? --ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 17:46, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Got it on accident
I just started my second play-through and decided to be evil. I hired Jericho and then left megaton on the way to Pentenny tower. Along the way jerry started a fight with a random mole rat and fired a gun which i though was the alien blaster. So of course i was like, wtf? i checked his inventory and he was holding the firelance! I had no idea what the gun was or that there even was a unique alien blaster. unfortunately i don't know where he picked it up so so much for finding alien power cells anytime soon...

Another Location(S)
Hey! Where does this link go? Random Encounter Locations!--Master of cheeZ 16:16, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Firelance inside boulder at Vault 106
I was at the entrance of Vault 106 when I saw a small explosion then a long streak of smoke above me. At this point I was really excited. So I looked around the area and could only find like 6 alien power cells, but no firelance. I was starting to think I would never find it. Then I remembered that Dogmeat (or his puppies) could find ammo/guns. So I got one of Dogmeat's puppies and went back to Vault 106. I told Dogmeat's puppy to find a gun and he started running against a boulder. I started getting really disappointed. Then, thankfully, he was able to glitch through the boulder, get the firelance, then glitch back out of the boulder.

Firelance inside boulder at Vault 106
I was at the entrance of Vault 106 when I saw a small explosion then a long streak of smoke above me. At this point I was really excited. So I looked around the area and could only find like 6 alien power cells, but no firelance. I was starting to think I would never find it. Then I remembered that Dogmeat (or his puppies) could find ammo/guns. So I got one of Dogmeat's puppies and went back to Vault 106. I told Dogmeat's puppy to find a gun and he started running against a boulder. I started getting really disappointed. Then, thankfully, he was able to glitch through the boulder, get the firelance, then glitch back out of the boulder.

Found one.
MDPL-05 Power station after I had already encountered some ghouls and then left, but forgot schematics the corps had in the fenced area. Upon return, no barrel of fire for the ghouls heat and no ghouls. Maybe the impact scared them off?

For anyone who's coming here trying to discover it, here are the clues. You'll hear an explosion in the sky or from a distance, see a smoke trail in the sky like a meteor falling. Where it lands, that's the spot. I just started playing this game for the first time 4 days ago and just thought I'd add that for newbies.

My Experience
I originally found the Firelance on an Enclave soldier near Alexandria's Arms. Luckily I V.A.T.S.'ed him before he had a chance to shoot me. At the time I knew nothing about Firelance, but had found the Alien Blaster so I knew it was a unique AB. Unfortunately, I though Enclave soldier could spawn with Firelance, but boy was I sadly mistaken. Also, unfortuately, I never saw the APCs either so I lost out on the ammo. Oh well, that was 2 profiles ago!

NEW PERSON TALKING. i ave no clue how to post my own section, so im adding in this one... anyway. im either uber lucky, or attract idiot raiders who love to dick around with missle launchers. cause, every time i start a new game, i head over to super duper mart to milk the randoms, and at the time, i had no clue how the firelance event happened, and on 5 seperate occasions, AT LEAST 5!! i saw a a line of smoke followed by an explosion over the super duper mart, or near it. and i dont know if it was luck? (not game stat) or just an idiot raider dicking around with a missle launcher. im a ps3 owner btw. respond if this happened to you. and its a significant thing too, and most of the time, i cant even find firelance if the explosion went off. only found it like twice. 96.253.57.245PSN Mister_Sticky check out my fallout 3 plat XP

HEY FINALLY GOT IT. dont noe how but it was in the holster of some talon company merc puttin some major whoopass on me. only got 2 alien power cells......(Ramenlover250 02:13, 23 July 2009 (UTC))

I Think I Missed It
A lot of times I have heard random explosions. I usually look around but not up. If it did happen and I missed it will it come again at some other spot or do I have to look for the original spot?--24.45.241.204 14:56, 19 July 2009 (UTC)MAYBE NOT: Around 1000 or more of the explosions in the Wastelands are surface spawns and have nothing to do with the lone Firelance event. Firelance events have a rushing sound in the air, a puffy arc of smoke and then a double explosion.If nearby, the sound of falling metal. If it has not alrealy occured and there is on way to know if it has, try and find a random event location site such as the one to the North East of CLIFF TOP SHACK where it is most unlikely you have ever visited it and then follow the instructions for Cliff Top shacks in the discussion.Or try the Random event site above Vault 101, the Dutch Barn. It may take you half an hour of trying but you will in the end get the Firelance.Dont foget to SAVE before rushing into an event site. If after 100 tries you do not get the Firelance then you most probably have already missed it and will have to shoot every raider and Merc in the Wasteland to find out who`s got the weapon or go back and reload earlier in the game !!! .Hope this is of some help.--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 16:45, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

EXTRA ALIEN POWER CELLS, TIPS ON FINDING THE FIRELANCE AFTER EXPLOSION
well, when i was finding all the locations in the game, i was walking between the nuka cola plant and andale, when i hear the explosion in the sky, and as i knew about the firelance, i turned & looked, saw the trail and was like "SWEET JESUS! WHERE IS IT!" and i scavenged around for 2 days gametime, looking for it and its ammo (btw, there are more then 12 power cells with it, even without scrounger) and i found alot of cells, but NO FIRELANCE. so i came on here, and YES, DOGMEAT/DOGMEAT'S PUPPIES will find the ammo and the weapon for you! thanks to those who posted that tip, but if youve been looking for ages, and dogmeat finds it on the spot youd been on for 15 minutes, it is rather depressing! OTHER PLACES FOR AMMO: theres the firelance area itself, the UFO crash site, you lot probs know more, but if you get the "Broken Steel" dlc, then in the old oldney power plant, in the room just before you get the tesla coil (should be a pulse mine in a fryin pan on the cooker) there are a few scattered over the tables. Hope this helps some of you! --92.18.106.215 20:19, 20 July 2009 (UTC) THE M0LE TRAIN

some extra tips for finding it if you haven't already.. the key to finding it in the first place is knowing whether it's already happened or not.. so keep a sharp lookout for alien power cells in places that aren't pre-placed (see the APC discussion page). Mine spawned at temple of the union, and I didn't even know it, didn't hear the explosion, didn't see anything drop. It wasn't until about 20 hours (real time) later (and I know this because I checked through a bunch of old saves to see at what point they weren't there anymore) that I even noticed there were power cells on the ground. Searching at night REALLY helps a lot.

The other tip I wanted to pass on is that dogmeat isn't the only way to sniff it out if it's stuck somewhere, or if you just can't find it. If you can find an enemy nearby, keep shooting his weapon out of his hands, when he starts to take swings at you, lure him back to the spot with the cells (whenever you do find it). The game AI will constantly tell the enemy to pick up any nearby weapons as soon as they can sense that they're around. With this strategy, if you bring him to the place where the firelance fell, he'll find it for you. The minute he wields it, and you know for sure that he has it (pausing in vats and targeting the weapon will tell you), blow his head off and get it from his inventory. Yes, I had to do it this way because for some ridiculous reason, I decided after I accidentally shot dogmeat in the initial encounter that I didn't need him as a companion anyway and then finished the game without him (real smart). This can also be pretty efficient as well because there's the potential that you can have an army of unarmed enemies searching for it on your behalf and all you gotta do is lead them around a little.

-99.241.133.93 03:47, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Firelance in 5 tries
I was sure that I had already triggered this encounter but was unaware of what to look for. In fact I was set to start my game again and force the firelance at the barn near vault 101. I thought I would give it at least 60 tries just to be sure. I had already triggered the random encounter at the barn, so I chose the red rocket near the Chast Acres Dairy. First two tries yielded hitmen, next two tries yielded the Scavenger with the Yao Guai and a dead Protectron, 5th try and I saw the green explosion in the sky!!! I was able to locate 19 of the 24 Alien power cells on my own, but couldn't find the remaining 5 or the firelance. I decided to recruit Dogmeat and he located the firelance as well as the remaining 5 power cells for me with no problem. I was level 7.5 with 5 luck, although I have since read that luck doesn't really factor in to it. Anyway, just wanted to point out that the Chaste Acres Dairy does trigger the firelance random event. Just be careful because if the firelance lands on top of the red rocket, I am not sure you would be able to get it.

Aknaff 04:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Ughhh.
On one of my profiles I found some powercells by some subway. I thought it was just those. I think I heard an explosion too but there were many cars around so I dismissed it. 5 minutes later I died and I found a nuka-cola salesman at the same subway. So close, but I wouldn't of even got the gun so I guess its kinda good.

My encounter
So level three I'm out of the vault for a grand total of about 10 minutes and I'm walking alone the river north of 101 to 106 and I pass the raider camp on one of the broken pieces of highway and of course I start killing them to get some better guns right. Well as soon a I shot the combat shotgun out of some random raiders hand he pulls out the firelance and kills me with it. I have never seen it since

i found the firelance at the arlington library i had just come out after giving that scribe some pre war books and saw an enclave on the road he was marked as an enemy and he started to shoot at me so i tried killing him but he wouldn't die. i noticed that in his hand was what looked to be like an alien blaster i didn't realise that it was the fire lance (because before this i didn't know about it) i got out the fatman and finally he died i went to spot he was standing at and on the ground was the firelance. WTF?--58.107.161.178 10:20, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Unlimited Alien Ammo
There s another way to get firelance ammo. If you have the alian blaster when you run into raiders destroy all and each of there weapon then kill one of them then take all his inventory then put your alian blaster and one alian ammo on his body then wait for one of the other raider to pick up the blaster and ammo from the body then kill the raider that picked up the inventory and then search his body you will see one ammo and the blaster take them both and then look into you inventory you will see that your alian ammo increased. the increase in ammo is random and doesnt work each time but most of the time. the maximum i got in one shot was 10. now i have 600 alian ammo.

This actually works. I am now farming alien power cells.--Дикий Человек Вампира 18:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

NEVER RUN SHORT OF ALIEN AMMO XBOX360 et al
Thanks for the unlimited alien ammo tip..I would never have thought of it..it works just fine..Got 30 rounds of additional ammo just shooting Radiers on the overpass bridge west of Springvale.--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 19:30, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Limited Edition Alien
I felt sorry for that poor Alien laying on his own in the Wasteland after flying all this way to pay us a visit only to crash through the roof of a house and so thoughtfully leave us his Blaster and ammo,so I gently picked him up and carried him back to my Megaton Pad and sat him in the chair with a Teddy Bear in his lap for company...He looked quite peaceful in the chair. I go out and when I return he`s gone. what the f`s going on..It`s not Wadsworth this time as I left him on the floor in a pile of slag.! --ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 23:12, 22 July 2009 (UTC).

i agree wit you that poor irraddiated alien dead on the ground. so i picked him up and dropped him in the potomac. then bout a mission later around rivet city he was floating around pinkertons door!!!(Ramenlover250 02:10, 23 July 2009 (UTC))

How exactly did you get him through the house door? And for that matter, the Megaton gate?

How do you get the alien inside your house?--Дикий Человек Вампира 18:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC) '''I`m glad you spotted this deliberate deceit.I wondered how many aliens out there might take the rouble and time to carry their mate back ....In reality I sat the poor bastard in the chair outside Megaton gate with the Robot to keep him safe...He still vanished..'''--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 17:23, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Alien abduction
That`s an idea, give him a Vikings funeral...Put him in a burning barrel and float him down the Potamac by the Anchorage War Memorial. Dr.Edward Morbius can read the last rites!..Who`s for a Vikings funeral ? --ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 06:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Got Firelance at Flooded Metro
I fast traveled to arlington library, then headed west toward the metro (this is my first time going to the flooded metro). After killing all the raiders there, I kept going west past the flooded metro until I saw a couple more raiders standing out on the multilane road. I walked until they started shooting me and then I headed back toward the flooded metro entrance. I did this about 20 times and I got the event. Here's what happened: As I was leaving the metro and walking towards the raiders in the road, I heard a bang and I immediately turned around and saw the remains of the explosion and the smoke falling from the sky. Unfortunately I only found one alien power cell. I got the weapon though. I plan on bringing dogmeat to see if I can scrounge up the other ones, and if not, use console to get more power cells XP.

Note: entering the flooded metro from the direction of the arlington library wont trigger the event. random encounters only triggered for me when I headed towards those raiders and back.

for those who think they have had the event but aren't sure, this quest mod will add a firelance quest if the ufo did crash for you, telling you the general area the ufo crashed in: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4009

this mod actually triggers the firelance event (independently of the random encounter, meaning u can have 2 firelances) http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=7722

You can get the Firelance at any level.
I actually got the Firelance random encounter to work at level 29 (the barn next to Vault 101). Got it on the second try. Thanks for all the good info out there!!

--Rycr34 07:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Found near MDPL-21
I was heading from SatCom Array NN-03d towards Oasis... stumbled upon MDPL-21 Power Station, and shortly after leaving it (heading towards Oasis again), the bright green explosion in the air happened just NE of MDPL-21. Found 21 cells and the Firelance after a good 20-30 minutes of searching.

I had a high luck level also, 8. Maybe that does have something to do with it. I have been trying to help my son get it (luck level 5) and it has been 2 hours now with nothing to show!!--Rycr34 06:50, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Firelance.
Having read the rest of these posts, I think I pretty much have a good idea how to successfully obtain a firelance when I begin my new game within the next few days, so thank you for all the info. The one thing I'm worried about though, is that with all the new add-ons and such, and 'Mothership zeta' seeming so close, will the coveted and (I suppose) legendary firelance be marked as obsolete? I mean, looking at all these people who have tried getting this weapon fairly, and put in hours of gameplay just to come to a satisfying technique, if a similar weapon (perhaps a pistol or rifle) is released, with higher Damage, or perhaps the firelance becoming a routine weapon aboard the mothership, will this deter anyone from finding the random event? Or would anyone still try and get it fairly just to say they have? MagusNadimi 21:24, 23 July 2009

Okay, actually, I left the computer wondering about the firelance, so I paid a friend of mine a visit, and borrowed his copy (PS3) to see how easy (or hard) it was to trigger this event, and funnily enough, with a luck level of 9, straight out of vault 101 at the dutch barn, first try the event triggered, now I'm going to assume, from the previous posts, that this, on my part, is sheer dumb luck. But hell, at least I got him a firelance....now to endure the pain and torture of obtaining my own...MagusNadimi 23:23, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

GETTING THE FIRELANCE FAIRLY
Dear Magnus, I suspect the odds against getting this weapon fairly are heavily stacked against you.To be sure of triggering the event at random if the odds go against you may require that you visit every random site in the Wasteland not even knowing where these sites all are.This means that if your luck during that game went against you, you must walk the Wasteland until you come to all the random sites and then if your random luck is still against you, you could like me spend over 400 hours and still never have the event happen. The reasons this weapon was ever found in the first place is that there are so many players out their playing Fallout 3 that even if the event only occured once in 1000 times there would still be hundreds writing in "rubbing our noses in the dirt" about how unlucky we are not to have found it. Still best of luck with your attempt.I don`t envy you..Keep us posted on your honest progress.At least the upgrades fixed that bug at Big Town that allowed cheaters to reach level 20 in a matter of minutes.--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 09:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)Weather here in the UK cold, windy  and wet..No signs of Global warming..in fact just the opposite...!!! The loony Green Party has now decided to change the wording "Global Warming" into "climate chaos", as though it ever been any different.

NEED HELP
I'm at Bethesda Ruins and am reloading my save to try to get the firelance. There is a wastelander with Jhon's key by the vicious dogs. Does this mean I can't get the firelance at Bethesda ruins ?..........................

TRIGGER POINTS
South Coast UK...If on your next ettempt you still get the same event then you have already triggered this random event and will not get the FIRELANCE at this location...try the cliff top shack, the Dutch barn or some other location.The trouble with these random event location fields is that you don`t know you triggered the field until its too late.--ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 14:06, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Got my firelance 5th try using the Anchorage/wilhelms warf trick.
after the 5th try after i restarted fallout, i finally got the firelance. if your wondering why i had to restart fallout its because the firelance event happened to me on the second try with the anchorage/wilhems warf trick, but when i went up to the memorial none of the stuff was on the ground so i thought it just lagged out of existence, restarted fallout and went back to save, also saving when the firelance event is in mid flight before the explosion is a good tip, it allowed me to go back whenever i feel like it. but remember the anchorage/wilhelms warf trick only works if you have never been to the anchorage memorial before and have never discovered it. works pretty easy, no need for high luck either, did mine on the PC not sure if thats a factor.

Stuck on a Bridge most likely, No way of getting up there.
Well I passed Wilhelm's Wharf, and on my way under a bridge, I found one of the Power Cells, and next to it another. Now I found two more, one by the nearby tall building and another near the building opposite to it, but that's it, I have strong suspicion that it is on top of the bridge, but, unlucky for me, there's no way up there. I tried making a way up there using shopping carts from the nearby Super Duper Mart and parts of blown up cars...but...well, you can give it a try and see that you'd have more success stacking pencils length-by-length. Any suggestions?..... Try getting dogmeat to look in the Potomac river..many fall into the river especially at the Anchorage War Memorial --ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 13:58, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

New Game,New Firelance.
After starting a new game, I finally got the Firelance at the Anchorage Memorial on my 53rd reload, Level 2. I got 19 /24 ammo. The other four were in thedeep water and my rad levels were 4 away from 1000. I fast traveled away to get healed. Would the power cells still be there ?24.29.25.43 02:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)NukaColaClear

New location for Firelance(?) - Around Fairfax Ruins
I was just walking around, exploring, when there was a huge explosion, the sky darkened and it started raining Alien Cells. I picked up all the cells I saw at the moment, but there was no gun. I didn't know about it (the gun) until a couple of days ago actually, so I didn't really bother. Is that it? Was there supposed to be a Firelance? Did I miss it?

The location is the square right of Fairfax Ruins, in the upper right corner (where the map lines cross on the Pip-Boy map). The top of the building is destroyed, and you can access the "second floor" (at least, what remains of it) by stairs. There's a circular hole in said second floor. There's also a iron fence at the back of the building, and part of it is knocked down.

I wanted to go check with Dogmeat, I had left him at my house but he disappeared.

''Go get Dogmeat from Vault 101 and head back to Fairfax, you might be able to find the Firelance. You're one of the lucky few who has had the Firelance event occur for them without having to reload repeatedly.'' --Danap611 05:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC)