Talk:Fort Constantine

Launch Code Discussion
I found the "launch codes" to a missile in the ruins of the fort, think they're worth anything?


 * I ABLE TO USE THE LAUNCH CODE I HEARD A MISSILE LAUNCHED BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT . I DIDN'T LOSE ANY KARMA OR WHEN I GOT OUT FROM THE CO'S HOUSE NO MUSHROOM CLOUD ANYWHERE...I DON'T KNOW WHATS THAT FOR


 * ICBM stands for inter-continental ballistic missile. so I'm guessing the missile went to like china or something.

Global1ff 18:13, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It's possible it actually took off to another location not on the Fallout 3 map. It definitely sounds like it took off, but if the computer says the guidance systems were damaged its possible it took off and crashed somewhere, who knows. Maybe one of the endings reveals what happens here ?


 * Maybe there's some sort of silo on the map, like at one of the other forts or Wheaton Armory. I mean something has to happen, or its just Bethesda messing with us.


 * Perhaps there is a targeting component one must find and install?

97.81.77.13 02:34, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sifting through the .esm data, the terminal and associated script only causes effects in that cell, no matter what the condition.

Interesting though, isn't it. All the time that has passed, satellites could've dropped from orbit. Maybe some enterprising young wastelander might find the "USSA" control center and get some satellites back online and hold the world at ransom... ransom from the enclave... Yet another Norm 19:17, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * If there's ever a Fallout game set in China, there should be a random encounter of an ICBM around a date that the Lone Wanderer may have triggered the launch in Fort Constantine.

The ICBM launch was just an Easter Egg, nothing actually launched. AreYouGoingToEatThatNuke? 05:31, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Guns and Bullets ?
Got two examples of games in which the copy of Guns and Bullets mentioned here does not exist, at least not on the queen-sized bed as advertised. Any confirmation either way? Is it another item that appears in a random location? Terminalmancer 01:33, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


 * We found the Guns and Bullets there as mentioned, but finding the freaking bed was the challenge. :) Faithellen 02:37, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I still do not see the Guns and Bullets book on the queen size bed. What do you mean by "but finding the freaking bed was the challenge...?"  There are two doors into the CO Quarters not counting the basement door and I see a single queen sized bed near the back door, and no book anywhere in the area.  This is my third play-through and I have never found it. MOMOwheeler 09:50, 30 November 2008


 * The Guns And Bullets is kinda hard to see due to it being a similar color as the bed, although it could be a random load, it was on both of my runs so far. Eshru 02:33, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Placed objects aren't random, as far as I know. --DarkJeff 18:19, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I can't find the guns and bullets and i look all over the C.O. Quarters, i found everything else but the magazine Darkzide


 * I'm having the same difficulties with this supposed guns and bullets on the bed, maybe it easily bugs out and falls through the bed.. :(


 * I'm with you guys. NEVER have I been able to find it. That cryptic ""but finding the freaking bed was the challenge..." makes it sound like there is another bed in the place, but it is not explained. Would have been nice if it were. I am starting to wonder if it jsut isn't in the PS3 version. Is this the version everyone that can't find it is playing? Will someone just GO INTO DETAIL about where it is, what room, what bed, etc.? As far as I can tell there is ONE bed and it is NOT on it.--Jimimorrison 04:22, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * There is only one bed and Guns and Bullets is supposed to be on it. However it often glitches and falls through the bed onto the floor, making it impossible to retrieve.  PC players can noclip to it with 'tgm' in the console.
 * I'll make a note about it on the page about the clipping. Some people say the "reloading" a save inside there "Might" make it respawn on the consoles as well from what I have read. Either way it should save some headaches for people that can't seem to find it since there are no notes on the article covering the issue--Jimimorrison 04:20, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Dave's Special Key does NOT open the door to T-51b Power Armor
I have collected all the keys, except for Tenpenny's key since he automatically was killed when I convinced the residents of the Tenpenny Tower to allow the Ghouls to live there. This mean I now do have Dave's key, however the door to the T-51b Power Armor still can not be opened. It only says it requires a key.

This is the Steam-version of Fallout 3. No tampering with console or other problems with quests encountered.

You probably need one of the other keys, like Tara's or you ran into a bug. J.J.-Lopez

DarkJeff 16:45, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Tenpenny does NOT have a key. There are four keys, yes. THREE you get from Crowley's quest, the forth is on Tara, and only opens the door out of the area (for convenience). You need all three to be able to get to the T-51b room.

I am having a similar issue. I am stuck at the first door, but I definitely have Ted's special key. It is listed on my keyring, and the quest says I am supposed to turn in the key. But I can't open the first door to enter the area... Any ideas no how to resolve? I am on the Xbox360 so no console for me either.... DocGratis 70.139.54.252 13:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I believe the order of the keys that are needed are Strayer, Dukov, Dave. Can someone confirm? --Turbine2k5 14:34, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

LibertyPrime07 14:12 04.09.2009 --LibertyPrime07 11:15, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually there are FIVE keys !!! You are missing that Crowley has a key too :)The Background of the story is like this Allistair Tenpenny once hired five mercenaries--MISTER CROWLEY, Tara, Dave, Jeff Strayer and Dukov--to find a rare gun in Fort Constantine..
 * Actually there are four keys. Crowley doesn't have a key at all. I found none on his corpse and there was no door which required his key. This is confirmed: only Tara, Dukov, Dave, and Jeff (Ted) have keys related to the quest. 71.190.225.116 13:34, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Named after General Chase?
When you're in Tranquility Lane and you view the Failsafe Program Documentation, General Constantine Chase sends the message to Braun about the Chinese Invasion and how it will affect the simulation and real-world subjects. Is the fort possibly named after the General at the time? Realek 23:54, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

The odds are it is not named after General Chase. First, army forts are referred to by the last name of the person they were named after. So, it would be fort Chase, and not fort Constantine. Second, they don't usually name a fort after you until after you're dead. General Chase's message would indicate that he was most likely still around during the great war. --Stedh 12:28, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Well... General Chase was the general in charge of the Anchorage Reclamation. And, the U.S. had time and money to dedicate a memorial to the war, meaning it was very important to the country. And, Constantine does sound a bit more patriotic than Chase. The fort does seem to be, at the very least, somehow related to Chase, if not directly named after him. Nitpicker of the Wastes 03:05, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

No Chamber of Feral Ghouls
Is anyone else bothered or disappointed after all the stories of Crowley being trapped in a room full of Feral Ghouls to not even find a candidate room for such an event, even if the ghouls were dead or gone by now?

There is a bathroom in the fort that has two or three skeletons and is radioactive, maybe that was the room? It would be kind of hard to believe but who knows. - Bot

Its a story element the devs forgot to implement.GodPlageon 04:58, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Lone Enclave Soldier southwest of the fort?
There seems to be a single Enclave Soldier a bit southeast of the fort, near the edge of the map square. This is despite not having reached the point in the game during which the Enclave is introduced. He always seems to be there and can wear normal Enclave Power Armor and Tesla Armor, as well as carry either a Laser or Plasma Rifle. He also carries a random piece of food sometimes. It does not seem to be a random encounter, and the area is not listed as one on the wiki. Is he there for other people as well? If he is, he could be a possible early source of a normal Plasma Rifle and strong Power Armor.--Mehbah 01:40, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't know why you'd bother with Power Armour before The Waters of Life, unless you wanted to equip a follower with it. But if you wanted to do that you could just go get either the green or winterized T-51b. PlasmaFox 01:57, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sure there is someone with a reason out there. If not for stats, then perhaps for looks. Either way, it's a possible early source of a standard Plasma Rifle should you need one for whatever reason, and if it really is a unique encounter, it should be mentioned somewhere, right? I would just prefer confirmation before I add it myself.--Mehbah 05:11, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Lone Enclave soldier appears on mine too and I'm no where near the waters of life quest Bbcode 14:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

The soldier just seems to wait there untill the waters of lifee,when he gets reinforcements,strangely,when i saw this guy,he had a plasma rifle,but no power armor,just a wasteland wnaderer outfit,but he was still marked as enclave soldier,i also encountered another lone solider outside of vault 101 immediately after i escaped it,i saw his awesome armour and plasma rifle,so i pushed him to his death,stole his gear then executed the citadel power armour glitch Werewolfhell 14:38, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

when you launch it go back on the computer and it will say error so it didnt launch its just an easter egg

There was an enclave eyebot near him when I found him (if that means anything.) Ofcourse the eyebot went hostile when I killed the soldier.

Can you get keys back from Crowley?
I spoke to Crowley in the 9th circle, after killing Dukov and Dave - but before starting "You gotta shoot them in the head"...

Now I need their keys to loot Fort Constantine - any ideas on getting them back? Can I successfully pickpocket Crowley?

Follow him outside of Underworld when you've finished the quest. You should be able to take them from him.

ICBM Launched, but where did it go?
As of 12:34am, I, Mix Bouda-Lycaon has sucessfully launched the ICBM. Fuck if I know where it went.

I uploaded all the satillite navigational data from NW-05a into it's computer of that station. I beleive this gave the ICBM the correct path to guide the missile.

I will replay through the event again to see if it can occur twice, then make an article here.

i plan to destroy the world... again...

~Not my video, but it proves it can be launched. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQb6Grg_33k

The missiles that fall near the Satcom area are not the ones from Fort Constantine. Firstly they can be launched before you even go to the Fort, and as another note the terminal in Fort Constantine states that its ICBM armament is all but depleted-or somthing along those lines- thus I wouldn't think it plausable that the number of missiles launched could have possibly have come from the Fortress-they also appear to be much smaller than the one in Fort Constantine and have a minute blast radius, thus it would be unlikely that these weapons would be the ones kept in the nations major nuclear armaments, more like on ships for small scale bombardments etc.

Trivia
If you examine the note for the ICBM launch codes, you'll see it says Auth(orization) '00000000' at one point. This is, in point of fact, what the launch code for minutemen missiles was for a large portion of the Cold war. Interesting bit of trivia, really. The flight control officer even had to check, to ensure that it had not been set to something more complex, once a month or so. 68.103.216.220 07:05, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

i think i know where it is!
since united states was against china, thhat the chinese were enemies with u.s, so the warheads had to be directing to one of the major cities in china or the delta x rocket a.k.a warhead landed in vernon square or somewhere where the warhead landed in the area.

??? Fat Man Spoon 13:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

The rocket is there regardless of whether or not you have ever been to Fort Constantine.--Hollow Points 23:00, November 1, 2009 (UTC)Hollow Points

the ICBM
ICBM is what i mean where it landed or hit.

Missile Launch Error!
I returned to the ICBM terminal after supposedly launching the missile, and it now reads "Missile Launch Error!" I guess it doesn't do anything after all.

ICBM! ROLF!
They should have it so that if you can find the nav codes or w.e you can upload them to the computer and fire the missile. Then if it hits China or W.E. there should be a tiny message that says," Congrats!! you hit China with huge a** ICBM! too bad you were to dumb to do it 200 years ago and save everyone's lives!
 * Ugh. One ICBM wouldn't tip the scales. http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/5/5c/Scribe.jpg/15px-Scribe.jpg Tagaziel (call!) 23:35, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Remove ICBM Crash Reference
The ICBM in the DC ruins is in Vernon Square(in a crater at the sewer entrance), but from what I've heard about it though, it's always there and isn't related to the launch at Fort Constantine. Someone should confirm and either pull the Statement or reword it to be concise. Rumors shouldn't be listed at all and guesses belong on the talk pages.Xclockwatcher 01:51, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * done--Gothemasticator 10:43, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not an ICBM, you 'tards, it's a Delta IX Rocket. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/4/4a/Naglowaa_se.gif/11px-Naglowaa_se.gif Tagaziel (call!) 13:00, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

"The Delta IX rocket was the last of the manned rockets to the Moon. Almost 15 years later, the all remaining Delta IX rockets were converted for U.S. military purposes, and the crew and instrument sections were replaced with nuclear warheads." Quoted from the falloutwiki delta ix rocket page. I believe I also read this somewhere in-game. So, it in fact has become an ICBM.

bugged fort
so i went to the fort once before getting any keys, when to dave (who was in old olney) and after that i try to go back or fast travel it loads then goes to black screen and "freezes" any one else had this problem?

Fort Constantine Bomb Storage
Why is the bomb in Megaton the same as the bombs in the Fort Constantine bomb storage? Was there some funky shit going down?

--97.123.48.153 03:07, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Why would the design of all the nuclear weapons in the arsenal be any different? The bomber in Megaton is American, not Chinese. --ArmeniusLOD 14:25, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

I thought the plane in megaton was an airliner. Makes a lot more sense if it was a bomber and dropped a dud bomb while crashing. Otherwise it looks as though the US was bombing itself. Metalfrenchtoast 17:45, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Well the bombers could have just been scrambled right before the bombs fell, and the resulting EMPs knocked them out of the sky. --ArmeniusLOD 17:44, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Could've happened, but the problem with that is that strategic bombers are usually kept in the air within range of their targets. Then again maybe it was just some shitty strategy. Metalfrenchtoast 17:48, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

True, the first-alert bombers are stationed in and around Europe. Maybe it was for any enemy submarines around the coast? Or it could have been like what the Israeli's did during the war in the '70s. They had a single bomber flying around with a nuclear weapon to be deployed in the event the country was taken over. A kind of "if we can't have it, no one can"-type deal. If D.C. was taken by the enemy then blow it to hell. --ArmeniusLOD 17:55, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

If your talking about the planes that make up megaton, they were taken from an airfield close to the crater. I have no idea where it mentions a bomber crashing in megaton and subsequently being turned into a town. As far as I know, it never really explains where the bomb came from.

Perhaps Chinese special ops got their hands on one and somehow failed to arm it for deployment. It wouldn't be the first nuke 'lost' by the US. I'm curious how a crater that size appeared; and how an intact nuke happened to land in the middle of it.

Dogmeat Glitch

 * If you have Dogmeat with you, when you get to the area where the bombs are, he will help you fight any hostile robots in the area. Once these robots are dead, he will disappear. If you try to go to another area (I. E. go through a door that leads to the wasteland) the game will freeze. If you try to load a save that places you in that general area the game will freeze. This occurred on the Xbox 360 version with no additional content.(Unconfirmed)

I had this happen to me too. I shot at a robot and dogmeat disappeared. I thought I had killed him but it didn't say anything about that. Now every time I try to leave it freezes up when I step outside. Is there a way to fix it? (I'd REALLY hate having to load up an earlier save, the last one was like 3 hours back -.-)

---Madkool 11:22, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * I also experienced the Dogmeat glitch; no matter what door I used to exit after leaving bomb storage, the game froze upon loading the parking lot. I loaded a previous save and sent Dogmeat to Vault 101 before encountering the robots and was able to leave Fort Constantine successfully. This occured on the XBox 360 GOTY edition.

unconfirmed bugs
--Kingclyde 00:44, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * There is a glitch where the T-51b Power Helmet will not appear in the stasis field, but instead spawn in the vicinity of the stasis field, on the ground around it or in the hallway.

Uhhhh........
Too much work for just a suit but hey its fun playing it threw anyways shoulda been something like the chinese stealth armor now thats something ;)

slight mistake in the history
quote > It is unknown what weapon Tenpenny was after, but it was possibly the "Fat Man" or the T-51b Power Armor.

It is unknown what Tenpenny was after, but according to Dukov and Dave he got it. The mission was a success. Obviously if he was after the Fat Man or Armor they'd be gone.

70.24.1.251 01:06, April 16, 2010 (UTC)Blib

Stealthboy
I searched the lockers near near the stealth boy but couldn't find the second one. could this have been random loot?
 * Yup, it's random. Removed. Nitty Tok. 03:32, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

(Very Hard) door in Bomb Storage
When I opened the door to grab all the Assualt Rifles and other weapons, none of them appeared. The shelves were bare except for the ammo boxes. Has this happened to anyone else or is it just a fluke? I've gone through here several times in other playthroughs under a variety of conditions and this has never happened. PS3 version. HBS75.69.104.65 05:48, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Edit: Just checked the room next to it to be sure, only 1 Assault Rifle :(

Hadn't a clue
So I gave crowley my keys to complete the quest.

and I though to myself? Is that it?

So, despite the HUGE Journey I followed crowley.

We got to the vicinity of the CO offices entrance and he started to attack me.

I killed him, took the keys and entered after looking around.

I too was interested in the ICBM, but I'm happy with my power armour I suppose.

Tenpenny's Weapon
I think we should remove the part in the article that says, the weapon Tenpenny was after might have been the Fatman or the armor. It does not make sense. Why would Tenpenny pay them if they never retrieved the weapon? They also already had the keys to that room so they probably took something else out of it. Any objections?
 * Excellent point. Removed it. Nitty Tok. 01:09, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Who owns the Queen-sized Bed in the CO Quarters?
I noticed the Queen-sized bed in the CO Quarters is owned (sleep text is red, and it says "you can't sleep in an owned bed" if you try to use it); who owns it? Does Crowley move in if you give him the keys or something, or is it just a bug/oversight?

Owned things don't necessarily have an NPC which 'owns' them. I suppose this example is just a design oversight. Mcelf 22:52, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

The Stasis Field Control Terminal
I'm not sure why my note was deleted. There is loads of speculation on that level in the notes all over this wiki. Might it have been more prudent to state it in a non-speculative way, if it's really such a big deal? The wiki doesn't gain from omitting the interesting tidbit entirely. That sort of stuff is all over this wiki. Which is good, because it can be interesting.

At any rate, the terminal does say 'Medical Prototype', from which it follows to a near-certainty that, either in-game or in development, that armor-holding field was intended for the medic power armor.

Is it really better without the speculation? Obviously the room was designed with the intent of housing the medic armor. This is noteworthy. Are the two most likely explanations for this not also noteworthy?

67.160.236.115 04:50, April 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * I can't speak to what should/shouldn't be on the wiki, but I definitely think it's notable if it really says 'Medical Prototype'. It's probably also worth tying in a mention to the medic power armor prototype. --HunterZ 15:24, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Remote Detonator
Isn't it possible Tenpenny hired the men to get the remote detonator (the one you use to blow up megaton)?

It'd make sense, considering the nature of the fort.

Unique world object?

 * Unique sewer drain with light in the hallway from the CO Quarters?--Ant2242 (talk) 15:42, 25 March 2015 (UTC)