User talk:Tagaziel/Archive 4

Misuse of Power/Achievement Deletion
Hi.

I wanted to contact you personally, you being the Overseer of this whole site, about a chastisement I received from one of your site administrators, Jspoel. I had this quite un-funny message on my talk page for a day (http://fallout.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Yliannos&oldid=1219636) and apparently Jspoel thought I had "insulted other editors", and rewarded me with a 24-hour block of communications on this site.

This leaves me at a rather confused state; how does a site administrator punish a recently joined member of this site for such a pity delict of code of conduct. I fully understand the nature of what I did was somewhat wrong, but judging the message was NOT directed at anyone at all - and it was on my page all along - I'd say the punishment doesn't fit the crime. I would have surely complied shoud the dear administrator have just contacted me and advised me not to keep such things on my talk page. Are we talking about an administrator misjudgement of authority, a bad day for Jspoel or just so he could get an achievement/trophy/pat in the back for some penalizing-quota?

Speaking of achievements, my opinion of such rewards on objective information and fan-based sites like this has been skeptic at best. I think achievements, such as "X amount of edits in a day" cause an enormous amount of unnecessary "contributions", such as changing of grammar to replace an adverb or something instead of adding of useful information. I think what you have tried to gain by creating this whole achievement based points-system was more activity on the wiki, but to be frank, I think it's a twin-tipped sword and will cause more harm than gain in the long run. That is to say, what I'm suggesting is a removal of such an uncesessary point-structure, since it might lead to misuse of adminstratorship - such as creating achievements purely for rewarding yourself with points. Again, this kind of situation could potentially lead to more devastating effects, such as the Vault turning into an achievement whoring site, with points being to whole point of the existence of an account instead of contributing to Fallout-based information. Which would indeed kill the whole idea of wiki in itself.

With all due respect and no amount of asskissing, I feel somewhat controversial about the Vault because of my experiences - being a huge Fallout fan -, but then again I see all this potential. Vault has provided me with information otherwise unobitainable throughout the years and I hope it will keep doing that.

Peace and most importantly love,

--Everybody dies. 16:32, July 14, 2011 (UTC)Yliannos

Yliannos
I see Yliannos decided to send you a post about the block I gave him, appearantly seeing you as the site's overseer as he calls it. And you decided to forward his post to Ausir, which has annoyed me quite a bit. I really think for such a minor disagreement involving another user, you could have (and should have I think) contacted me first about it, before going to a bureaucrat. We could have come to a solution. You have not made friends with me with this move. Just wanted to let you know how I feel about this. Jspoel 00:13, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

(a.v.p.snowman) it a wild guess but i think Tagaziel is 37-42 years old...not to say that's not a good thing.I as a player of the newer generation of gaming (im 18) hope you enjoy the many years of today's and future games with your knowledge of the past and happy gaming Tagaziel. :)  Quote of the day :when it rains it pores welcome to my hurricane.

Vandal
Hey, Tag, I hope you're still logged in. We have a vandal that I'd like you to take care of. http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/90.217.251.30. Thanks. 10:41, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thought You'd Like To See This...
Came across this and thought you might want to see it... User blog:.45 Auto taco/Tagizel is a asshole

Name Change
hi tag, ive been trying to change my name from The Nemisisx to The Nemesisx so i asked some people in the vault and they said the admins are the only ones to do it, do if you know how to could you please help me. The Nemisisx 01:36, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

The Divide Map
Where'd you get the map of The Divide?  Pikmin  1254  05:37, July 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh. I never noticed it anywhere though  Pikmin  1254 

Enclave
Hello my friend ;)

Someone (Outcast77) was not agreed with you on the Enclave page and although I asked him to send you the same message that he send me, he didn't. I saw that you are currently on the Vault so I wanted to tell you this, take a look of my talk page to see these motivation and my answers on his own.

Since it was you who wrote the text, I think it is you who has the best arguments to defend your opinion. Have a nice day my friend and see you soon =)! Itachou [~talk~] 13:00, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

K9000
Cyberdog is a dog has been modified robotically but keeping some of their organic part.

Here, it's a cyberdog brain put in a "weapon" and like you say "it's a brain connected to a machine", so from the Fallout definition of a brain bot, it's a brain bot and not a cyberdog. This why it is called "K9000 cyberdog gun" and not just "K9000 cyberdog". Itachou [~talk~] 21:48, July 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't agree. Cyberdog it's because it look like a "dog" otherwise the name cyberdog have no longer interest. Thin thanks are brain bot and they are not qualify as "cyberhuman", not like Cross for exemple.


 * Here, I can't see any robotically part, just a machine created like a weapon with a brain that does function for the weapon. It's not even a living being, just a machine obeying the user with no opinion.


 * For the name cyberdog, it's because the brain was improve cybernetically for the need of the weapon that all, I don't think a normal dog brain can help you in combat. Itachou [~talk~] 22:11, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Well I just get the K9000, it's true it has a canine behavior but that all, its appearance and its principle contradict the mentions of cyberdog in FO2 by Dr. Schreber and Dr. Henry feeling that cyberdogs are a dog enhanced cybernetically, and the Fallout 2 official guide mentionning about Robodog that a cyberdog is a synthetic canine.

Changed the text for "a kind of cyberdog with a cyber canine brain put into a mechanical body built like a heavy weapon, the brain floating in a jar under the weapon's barrel." it's the best solution I think. What do you think my friend?

Also, I think we will put it in the variations section in the cyberdog page (infobox and variant section) right? Itachou [~talk~] 23:30, July 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * All right, I take care of the cyberdog page ;), nice writing for the K9000 page, pretty singular text. Ho also, nice post in NMA for the old old Fallout art, very nice to see some kind of artifact still exists today =)! Nice evening and see you soon Mikael! Itachou [~talk~] 23:52, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

URCOJ
Tagaziel, please come to the chat. We have a user named URCOJ who has multiple accounts, made a vandal page, and is spamming the chat repeatedly. He has been doing it for a while now and deserves to be blocked. Thanks. 11:16, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Name Change Request
I'm sorry to disturb for a lil thing but i meade a typo when creating this name, it should be OneWingPhoenix, not OneWingPhoneix. It's not a big deal if you deny the change but i'd be grateful if you change it anyways :)

Have a nice day

OnewingPhoneix July 24,2011 14:06(GMT+1)

Quick question
The whole anarchist theme you have, I like the armour by the way, but I was wondering if you are a political anarchist or not? So, as in dissolving governments and letting people help each other because they want to. Just curious. I'm not by the way, but I have read on the subject. Don't feel you have to answer of course, I'm not trying to be rude. 21:09, July 24, 2011 (UTC).


 * That's interesting. I like to read about different philosophies: religious, political and structural. I think that this is infinitly interesting and when I saw that I just though I'd ask. Thanks for replying too. Someone has to know the real ideologies behind these things, rather than thinking that they should torch this and cause riots in the name of 'anarchism'. TheGuardianCalligraphy.pngGuardianoftheWastesTag.png 18:23, July 25, 2011 (UTC).

Big MT
Hello my friend =)

Please don't remove what you want in the Big MT page. Agree for now for Borous and 2003 in Big MT, but Klein clearly say it's the admin of the facility, like all other think thanks that they are a head of each section (otherwise why they have the choice to become a think thank and immortal and not the other if they are not special in the hierarchy).

And Big MT it's not a special page, don't need the "(usually written Big MT)", just "Big MT" is sufficient to itself. Also, their technology was not used by the Enclave (no holograms, no cyberdog gun, no Saturnite etc.), it is important to indicate in the page and to clearly show they are sometimes over there in some technological fields. Also, I don't think they created cyberdog, just improved the technology already in place - they have only cyberhounds Mk III (Military and Police model), but not Mk II like Robodog and Mk III law enforcement officer model like Rex (use in city, so not a military project or something). Also, it's the "only" technology use by the Enclave that also use by Big MT, so the technology was already in place. Itachou [~talk~] 11:04, July 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * 1) I didn't say it was superior to the Enclave, just in certain technological fields they are superior to the Enclave. I have never seen more than two cyberdog (Robodog, K-9) belonging of the Enclave (when they are many in Big MT), no holograms, no cyberdog gun, no teleportation technology etc. I agree that the Enclave has in certain fields a high technology but the Big MT excel them in some other fields.


 * 1) Yes for the Big MT's head but we just have to point out that these are their names after the Great War (and Borous was named Gail Richardson).


 * 1) Even if it's not elaborated in-game, "Think Tank Project" seems to still be in place since as I said, why everyone did not was became a think thank?


 * Agree for a "research projects" section =). Haha I like your title "Again?", you know that we are here to share ideas my friend, we will have much debates later is sure ;). Also, I think you will still have to wait a little time to make such a background section, OWB is not even been out for one week is a bit of spoils, would have to wait 2-3 weeks was more appropriate in my opinion. I take a look of your edit in Big MT, see you later! Itachou [~talk~] 12:56, July 25, 2011 (UTC


 * Let me be clear. You act like a kid who wants everything to be as he wants without thinking of others. Why change the page just to remove some sentences and put "your sentences", sometimes wrong and failing to explain all the details, not listening to me or listen to others.


 * You also block some pages just because some people don't agree with you (Enclave, Mercy). You have 23 years, it's time to grow. We talk, we come to an agreement, but for you in fact not, you change as a childish kid that things that don't pass as he had expected. Itachou [~talk~] 13:58, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Pure speculation and Big MT surpassing the Enclave in some fields is highly subjective? Have you seen any holograms, teleportation technology, more than 15 cyberdogs in any Enclave outpost like Enclave Oil Rig or Raven Rock? And please, don't said me that the cyberdog model doesn't exist in Fallout 2 since you known it exist and the developers could easily put them into enemies on the Enclave Oil Rig.

Cyberdogs remains a rare technology for the Enclave (even if they have "canine neuroscientist" - a rank that you have invented since it doesn't exist in the game file and dialogue - anyway, well, just two kind of that have be seen), more concerned about deathclaw as can be seen in-games (FO2-FO3) and so Big MT is more advanced than the Enclave in that (like holograms etc.). All my reference is seen in the game - you, you just speculated for things that doesn't show in-game.

I respect you for some aspect, but on the other shows you have a deplorable behavior and don't respect other people. I also sometimes take three hours on pages (take a look of the history of Cyberdog, Gecko (creature), Primitive Tribe, Tribals, Vault 13, Vault 101, Human if you want) and it's not a reason that I use only my sentences and I don't listen to what people and the community want.

The childish kid behavior I described above (that you don't recognise and you didn't tell me why) is that sometimes you block certain page (Enclave, Mercy) just because some people don't agree with you. It is not tolerated and honestly you should be banned or something like that for this kind of unacceptable behavior (why do you do that? Did you give me an answer other than "I want to keep things like that because it is me that write, I'm always right and I don't respect people, especially those who are not admin"). Can you give me an answer? Itachou [~talk~] 17:56, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Stealth suit Mk II
Why you remove the real name "X-13 cardiac regulator sneak suit" of Stealth suit Mk II since IT'S MARKED IN THE ACHIEVEMENT Cardiac Arrest! (released before the game) AND IN THE OLD WORLD BLUES PAGE? Can I have a good reason from you?

It's an obligatory practise to include the real name and alternative names of the item as per The Vault:Article layout guideline/Item article. Itachou [~talk~] 13:07, July 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Pre-released achievement with the real name, just the description of the official achievement change but the name is not false. Itachou [~talk~] 13:44, July 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm going to take a little rummage into the game itself, and see if I can find any evidence to the contrary. Seems like the best thing to do now, anyway. Hugs Scar: "Say 'ello to my little friend!" 13:56, July 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I see your point Tag, but the name has to ahve come from somewhere, even if it's outdated. I simply want to know. So I think we should ask a dev on Formspring, as that is usually counted as official info (lots of articles have formspring reference links). That's my proposition, anyway, as that would be an outside mediator, as no one of us wants to budge it seems. P.S. I fixed some grammar in your Big MT edit. Hugs Scar: "Say 'ello to my little friend!" 15:09, July 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Agreed, and when I have time I'll ask a dev over Formspring or the like, as to get confirmation. Hugs Scar: "Say 'ello to my little friend!" 15:27, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Capitalization
Ho also Mikael just a heads up, remember that we don't capitalize not proper names like lobotomite and cazadores. Itachou [~talk~] 13:33, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

FNVOWB Big Empty Birds Eye View.png
Wow!! How did you take that picture? Simply climbing as far as possible using 'tcl'?

Need some help with my Fallout.
Sup Tag. I need help with a little backstory of Fallout. What was the standard issue of the US military before the War? As in, not the R91 (I trust Black Isle/Interplay, not Bethesda).

Be glad if you could answer. -- Yakov 04:56, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Guess it'll be a laser/plasma rifle then. -- Yakov 06:16, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Call of Pripyat problems
My Call of Pripyat is too slow. It takes about 1 to 2 minutes of quicksave loading, while save game loading from the main menu takes about 4 to 5 minutes of loading. Do I need to upgrade my computer graphics or memory in order to fix that? --gauzzrifle 07:56, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Brand names
How do you know it is part of the name or simply a description of the contents. To be honest I really don't care, I just want uniformity and since you're the only admin moving or commenting on upper case (most other admins have moved to lower case, or commented on talk pages about it should be lower casing). I am simply following what I feel to be consensus on the matter. But if you are going to move them to upper case, then you need to do it to all i.e. Salisbury Steak etc. and then let me know which ones have changed. Otherwise the rest of the wiki will be in lower case due to the bot being in lower case. Simply changing the page name isn't enough now, as I have posted in the forum about my bot. User Avatar talk.png 19:42, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * One other thing I will add, things like snack cakes are generic terms, while most of Kellogg products are not. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 20:46, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Dandy Boy A/apples, yes/no? As for adding it, I would figure yes. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 12:01, July 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Also all the flavored Mentats plus party time Mentats. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 12:03, July 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Along with the Mentats we should to reach consensus on what a brand name is and what not on the Chems page. Maybe you can take a look? JspoelJspoel Vault Boy.png 12:27, July 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Now that is a interesting one, Gamma Gulp beer is decapped for the beer part in the actual game description. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 12:34, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Big MT Snow globe bug question.
Sup Tagaziel. There's a bug in Old World Blues for the Snow globe as described here - when the globe is unreachable. The thing is, I've encountered this bug. There was a 'verify' sign next to it, and I removed it. Do you think I should add a screenshot in the gallery showing how the item could be unreachable? Thanks. -- Yakov 10:57, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Big MT background
Hello Mikael =)

Mobius said that they were already reprogrammed to forgot a part of their personality and their name, and having them already a new one (changed later by Mobius). Also, I checked many hours the GECK and take more than 30 screenshot in-game of all interesting dialogue, so if you don't believe me, you can directly look into the GECK or wondering me the screen.

It's not all the researchers was transformed into a think tank but only the "Think Tank" executives (their name, spelled like that can see in some terminals, also with execs). The dome is named The Think Tank because it was the facility of the Big MT "Think Tank" executives.

I re-write and reput some information with the signification and the spelling in-games. Anyway, thanks for the grammar and some interesting re-writing ;). Itachou [~talk~] 21:12, July 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for not delete information and to have rewritten some with a more comfortable way. Hey my friend don't think that every time I want to fight with you, I just want to be the most accurate as possible and with all information available, even the smaller and more hidden =). However, I think the best would be to put dialogue references for the other person, what do you think? Itachou [~talk~] 12:41, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Haha I send this message before seen yours ;). No no, no bad feelings of course =)! Itachou [~talk~] 12:43, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you.
For your critiques. They've given me a lot of things to think about in regards to my work with Fallout 3, and Fallout: New Vegas. I won't go into great detail, but people who evaluate and study the Fallout lore and offer legitimate, well-written and intelligent criticisms are a great thing for a fanfiction writer like me, who strives to make his work as good as possible. Thanks for spending the time on things like this, because it is worth it, even more to people like me. --66.168.77.22 00:23, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Recon armor image
I tend to agree with you. While I was doing those recon images, I was doubting what to do with that issue. That's because on the forum page we decided (as far as I remember it) to do the male and female version front side image for the infobox image. Changing that would break consistency. In the end I did decide to add the back image to the gallery on the Recon armor (Fallout 3) and Recon armor (Fallout: New Vegas) page, but not on the Christine's COS recon armor. But as you state it, I agree it would be better that if the male/female version is very similiar (like with the recon armor) to do a front and back image for the infobox image. But if there's a reasonable difference, then stick to a male/female armor image. Jspoel 15:13, July 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes it was decided to be both male/female version for the info box (something which I was greatly outnumbered on), instead of front and back. Instead the back images where to be added to a gallery or in the extra section of the infobox. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 16:12, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Vandal
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/99.161.157.79 This vandal heavily vandalised a user's page... do you think you could ban them? Thanks. 08:40, August 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * He's done it again. Just a heads up.

Thanks for that. Also, if you're still there, could you take care of this guy too? http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/67.184.225.166 I asked Porter but I don't think he's here. 09:12, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Don't burst from anger or laughter.
Hello, Tag. I just wanted for you to see this. Hope you like it... -- Yakov 14:52, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Insulting Subcultures
I'll try not to do it again, though my viewpoint will never, ever change on the matter. --Captain tweed 19:19, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Dear Tagaziel
Hello, I have read a great many of your comments and you might just have to become my greatest ally in my alliance against Fallout 3 and it's canon-breaking tomfoolery. I request that you join this alliance post-haste, in the best interest of this wiki.

With only the best regards, VivaNewNevags7 07:07, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I hear you don't like nazis...
For that alone I solute you! 

O_O ^_^ @_@  11:58, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Possible Interest.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/112194-Neo-Nazis-Faked-Out-by-Trick-T-Shirts Skål! 04:17, August 11, 2011 (UTC)GarouxBloodline

Yakovs ban
He intentionaly planed a 'raid' on the CoD wiki chat, purly to troll, upon his kick he vandalised their pages, whislt it is their wiki this was all planed in our chat giving the vault a bad name, also after his CoD block he started acting very aggressive with others so I asked another admin to help me figure out what to do, I spoke to Itachou and we came to a consensus a ban was needed, as Yakov had prior bans, and his last was 2 weeks I gave him a 3 month ban. - Crazy Sam10 Talk User blog:Crazy sam10 18:19, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've been talking it over with some people who were involved from our wikia, and I believe you are right and there shouldn't be a 3 month ban, however we still beleive a ban should be put in place as even though he broke no rules, those rules where not in place after the chat, we can't start going into other chats spouting "Fallot wiki is the best your wiki is shit Trololo" it gives us a bad name, and after doing so he vandalised their pages as some kind of vengenge thing, once again bad for reputation, after he was banned from CoD he was aggressive towards others in our chat and it was at that point the consensus for the ban was confirmed. - Crazy Sam10 Talk User blog:Crazy sam10[[File:ShadowAttackSmallAni.gif]] 19:11, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I thought he was banned for harrassing one of our members, I even said yes I saw that & agreed with a ban but I thought 3 months was too harsh for common trolling.. However, Now that I've read all the case against Yakov.. I'd say he should be banned untill he contacts an Admin with a "Well worded " appology & promise to play by the rules & take heed if ever warned again by a mod or admin.

SaintPain → That was broke a'fore I got here! 19:20, August 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just reviewed the logs and he did in fact post threats toward 1 user, called another users mother dumb, plus several other minor insults towards others. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 19:47, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Mods
I remember you had a picture up of your player character and he was wearing a backpack. I was wondering what mod you had installed for him to wear that? This is TrailerParkApe, I'm just at my friend's house and I forgot what my password is, so I couldn't log on. If you don't remember what mod you got your backpack from, can you recommend a good one? Thank you. 98.248.44.79 12:18, August 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. Project Nevada has a good looking backpack, but I don't want to download it just for the backpack. TrailerParkApe TPA 01:22, August 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * So I tried the atomics mods backpack, and the textures weren't working, but I have ended up using some mod now that has a military sort of style backpack. So, it all works for me. Thanks for the suggestion though, even though the textures didn't work. TrailerParkApe TPA 08:26, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

IP vandal
I don't know if there's anything you can do about Anons, but this one has created two nonses pages in the last few minutes titled "Tagaziell" and "Ceasar's Grandmother" The IP is 71.123.203.156 Thanks Gibsonites 05:35, August 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * He can ban anons, and hes http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.123.203.156 Pat   :3  http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/vaultarmory/images/2/23/Gif_dancinggir.gif 05:36, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Fallout 1 and 2 characters project
Hello. I am just leaving a quick note to say that we need to get this project finished. Its been very slow for a long time now, and so this is just a quick note to ask for you to continue your contributions. It would be really good if we could finish this project, and if everyone does that little bit more work, I'm sure it won't be long. So please don't forget about it :). Thanks,.


 * Oh I know Tag :). I just had to send this to everyone, because for the last two months I've been the only one doing it. Thus, I've sent out this to try to increase activity.

Thanks And apology
So im just kinda awkwardly saying thank you for giving me my one week ban and i apologize to anyone i offended thanks tag. Fryingpan57 23:11, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Since you haven't replied, I'll just post it here.
Well, I've given you more than ample opportunity to reply on Needs More Battle Cattle. So.. here we are, then.

Yes, Tag, we all know that. However, I want you to consider this: Obsidian isn't a name which translates very well into a person's name. If I had tried (and I didn't, I'm not gonna lie.) I wouldn't have felt like going with Zii, Dee, or Obadiah since that would have been stretching the name far past the point where the reader would easily recognize what organization was being parodied in a anthropomorphic fashion. Without that clear and (most importantly) *easy* understanding, the flow and the comedic entire mood of the post falls apart.

Commenting what you did before thinking about any of that, is itself on the ignorant side of things.

Further clarification: I would never date an Obadiah. Not out of any sort of, "oh its because Obi's a guy", but because "Obadiah" just doesn't lend itself to being easily screamed out in the throes of passion and I've never wanted to imagine having sex with Alec Guinness.

Further Further Clarification for anyone who missed the point and wants Tag's point responded to outside of the realm of the post I made: If you are saying that Bethesda doesn't deserve any credit for FONV, such a statement doesn't serve to reveal that you have any idea as to how marketing, endorsement or brand-recognition work. If a publisher puts their name on a product, that publisher is saying - among many other things - that they endorse that product and are putting their reputation and customer-trust on the line in regards to it.

Sure, they're not making it themselves, they just designed FO3, and yadda yadda yadda whatever, but Bethesda's rep is still on the line with FO:NV. The Publisher has the last say in what gets shipped - the last bit of QA is on them, whether or not they chose to do any. So yeah, Bethesda deserves some credit for FONV and the add-ons when they did good things, but make no mistake that I do (and have) also beat on Bethesda for the craptacular things as well. So don't worry... I'm not just praising one and beating on the other.

Oi.


 * In conclusion: Do Not Insult Satire Unless You Understand It And Do Not Leave Insulting Comments On My, Or Anyone's, Blog. And before you, again, say that I'm being ignorant, this time for taking what you said as an insult; you left the comment, one to which I replied, and then you said nothing, leaving me no option but to assume that, yes, you were, in fact, being insulting.

-- The Arcadian Rook(talk)User blog: Arcadian Rook 04:51, August 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright, then what female name would you have used? -- The Arcadian Rook(talk)User blog: Arcadian Rook 14:24, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Soviet Union
Regarding Alepov's Soviet emblem: I do not see emblems of the Soviet Union as having the same universal and unmistakable meaning as the Nazi swastika. I understand that you have a case to make, but I think you need to make it in a forum and gain some consensus before asking people to remove soviet symbols.--Gothemasticator 21:32, August 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * I can see your view, and it does hold water, but you must remember that this was the universal sign of Communism long before Lenin adopted it. Many people have forgotten this due to China's flag, which represents the party, and the people. I don't wish to argue with you, but rather remind you (because it is clear you are an intelligent person, so I have no reason to doubt that you already knew this) that it is Communist, not Soviet. Thanks for your time, TheGuardianCalligraphy.pngGuardianoftheWastesTag.png.

Possible racist user name
Sorry to bother you, Tag, but I've run into a user in chat I feel I need to report to an admin. I don't know if it'll do any good if I don't have an exact name, but it was something along the lines of Nggawithattitude. Its quite obvious the first portion of the name was refering to the N word, and I know that isnt a word we want used here. Thanks for helping me with this issue. Victor the Insane Cowboy Robot 07:47, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Vandal
This guy is a repeat vandal, and not a very original one at that. Could you please do something about it? 08:16, August 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Two minutes? You must be the fastest admin in the West. Yes Man default.png 12:00, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

My ban is up.
Hello, my block and chatban is up but and the one who did it is unavailable at the moment, could you unban me from chat please? O_O ^_^ @_@  15:16, August 25, 2011 (UTC) It would be very appreciated.

Bozar
Hello my friend =)!

I don't understand, you make speculation now my friend? Where is the reference that this weapon is the Bozar? Itachou [~talk~] 19:20, August 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Please add reference when you create a page like that ;)! I took care of it. Itachou [~talk~] 19:24, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Question for the seasoned vet
Hey Taga,

I don't know if you remember me, but I was the one that vehemently defended fallout 3. I've never played either of the first two fallouts and I now wish to give one of them a try. Being the expert and such a huge fan, would you mind taking some time out of you're undoubtedly busy schedule to tell me which one you would recommend more?

Thanks,

ShadyCake

Fallout 1 First Impressions
I know you have other things to do, what with editing and more important people to respond to, but I thought you might like the first impressions from a gamer growing up in the "bang valued over the story" era.

1. I actually really enjoyed the animated opening. It provided great expressions that the Gamebryo engine couldn't generate.

2. Although the combat does take some getting used to, I really like the tactical aspect of managing action points.

3. My last note, seeing as I did not get very far into the game, is that I am rather confused when I actually need to travel. Do I travel immediately to the indicated vault once I leave my own or do I try to find a town? The "fast" travel aspect seemed peculiar to me, but I suppose this is what actual sandbox game play is when compared to that of the newer generation.

Overall, Fallout 1 is definitely a great experience, but I wish I had known a few things like specializing in melee in the beginning. Oh, and congratulations on another year of marriage.

Thanks a lot for the recommendation, 04:04, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Research
If anything can reinforce a view, it is research. This not only sickens me, but I feel the comment he left and the fact that he favourited it show exactly the kind of person he is. I can tolerate views, but this I would have trouble with.


 * This guy needs banning. You're the only admin around. TheGuardianCalligraphy.pngGuardianoftheWastesTag.png


 * Thanks Tag :). See you around. TheGuardianCalligraphy.pngGuardianoftheWastesTag.png

How funny... I have fought with that man before on DA. He's not exactly one of the more intelligent of his kind though. Just throws around a lot of supposed"facts". Skål! 03:59, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

Zionist terrorism.
I figured you might be interested in this. Skål! 04:40, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

Sort of hard to give the sweet and short on this video. It's kind of something you have to witness with your own eyes and ears to even try to comprehend such stupidity and ignorance. It's essentially a video involving David Duke trying to connect the recent events in Norway with the Zionists.. Skål! 12:35, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Ulysses timeline
Hello Tag ;)

Actually, Ulysses timeline is rather hard to interpret since we have no date for some event, only indications.

Itachou [~talk~] 19:49, September 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Based on the Patient log: Y-17.9, Ulysses known that the Courier is alive and say to Christine (if they come in the Sierra Madre) to come to him, so it's obligatory after Victor job, since it's at that time he learns that the Courier is alive. Also, we don't know when the Courier arrived in the Mojave for the job, and when Victor creates his announcement, this may be late 2280, early 2281 ect., time for Elijah to do all, and he is probably not stay very long when you meet it, otherwise he would have starved to death or something (it's an old man, it is fragile physically). Also out of Ulysses, we don't meet any courier in the game, this indicates that they are pretty rare and call one or more can take time, especially in a region under reconstruction.
 * Ulysses never comes in Big MT for find the access codes, based on the Ulysses Log Y-17.16, he come across by accident and take the opportunity to speak with the Think Tank. Also, based on Chris Avelonne on Twitter, the nuclear missile only need the copy of ED-E to be launched (also say by Ulysses in-game, that why he take the control of him after you reach a certain point in Lonesome Road).


 * So for you, if I understand correctly, the event in Big MT with Ulysses is before the destruction of the Divide? Because it's after that Ulysses think that the Courier is dead.


 * Actually the sentences:


 * "Get [her/him] to come to me. Got a message for [her/him], like the message [she/he] had for me. Make them walk the road west, straight and true, sink their feet in Old World ash. Let storms tear at them. See the Divide. See what happened."


 * "Nothing there? Like the Big Empty? The Sierra Madre? No, the Old World sleeps there, sure as the flag I carry. The Courier knows the way. And at the Divide, [her/he] and I - there, we'll have an ending to things."


 * Are proof that Ulysses knows that the Courier is alive after Victor job and wants to finish with them in the Divide when the time comes, this cannot be interpreted otherwise. Itachou [~talk~] 20:16, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Sincerely it is rather difficult to be truly sure without asking a dev, many interpretations are possible. Since you have a Twitter account, can you ask the question to Chris Avellone? I would also like to know the truth about that ;). Itachou [~talk~] 21:39, September 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hum... just a note but look at this sentence of Ulysses in the Patient log: Y-17.9:


 * "Let storms tear at them. See the Divide. See what happened."


 * "See what happened" - meaning see what happened after you have brought this package and you're left. The Divide seems to be already destroyed. Before change anything, I await your opinion on that. Itachou [~talk~] 14:22, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah but it remains an assumption. Well, hope Chris Avellone can clarify all this, it is unfortunate that no date was given in-game. Itachou [~talk~] 17:06, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

RE: I need your review
Very well written, and very good advice! Great job! I couldn't have stated it any better myself. :) JoePlay http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb33036/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (talk)  16:10, September 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I think it deserves to be on the Community Central blog as well. For possibly promoting it, I would recommend asking about it using Special:Contact. I don't know if that's something that could be done, but it never hurts to ask. JoePlay http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb33036/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (talk)  18:04, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Riot gear images
I agree the helmet is a bit bright compared to the riot gear, but it's about the best I can do I think. I have somewhat limited graphics capacity and images are not as good as yours, Itachou's or GhostAvatar's. You're free to replace them with a better one of course. Jspoel  19:22, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

CV Blog Post
Hi Tagaziel! I saw your blog post on Community Central Your Wikia experience and CVs. It is great! We are starting something new over on Founder & Admin Central where we are highlight blog posts & posting them as guest blogs. Would you be interested in sharing your blog over there? Let me know and we can discuss how we'll do it! Thank you! --Meighan http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 01:24, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Anarchism
There is a debate in chat if you'd like to provide your view? Thought it might be of interest to you :). 22:17, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sean
Co myślisz o uwzględnieniu Sean'a w historii Krypty 13 i ew. odniesieniach do "vault dwellers" w takich artykułach jak ten Taliusa? Jeżeli tak, to w jakiej chronologii myślisz, należałoby go umieścić? I co najważniejsze, bo jestem tutaj całkiem zmieszany. Jest on usunięty z gry czy nie? Na nie przemawia fakt że widzę jego spolszczone teksty w pl wiki (ale zapewne tłumaczyli wszystkie pliki), co ważniejsze, jest rosyjski screen z random encounterem, na tak że znajduje się w liście usuniętych postaci i nigdy go w grze nie spotkałem. (aczkolwiek samotnego deathclawa z random encountera też nie). Proszę, olśnij mnie w tej sprawie. : ) --Languorous_Maiar 18:04, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Deleted comment
What's wrong with the comment you just deleted? I can't really see it as trolling or flaming. Jspoel  16:40, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Promotional crossover content
Hello, Tagaziel. Can you please look at this forum topic? Your opinion would be highly appreciated. veryblackraven 07:26, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blog comment deletions
I think you went overboard deleting those comments. One guy asks what has Tim Cain done since Fallout. Other people proceed to list accomplishments. Sure, it was a hyperbolic comment. Sure, it showed disrespect to a FO creator. But none of that is against policy. Live and let live, Tag. You are regularly more abrasive than the comments you deleted.--Gothemasticator 17:27, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * And this comment of yours would not be considered insulting toward another editor? "Error: Fallout 3 as best Fallout game and developed taste. DOES. NOT. COMPUTE."


 * You're playing with double standards, Tagaziel. Strictly applied against those you disagree with and leniently applied to your own contributions.--Gothemasticator 17:50, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * And the comment I quote above "can only be identified as intentionally disruptive and provocative towards other Vault users, particularly those enjoying classic [newer] RPGs."--Gothemasticator 18:24, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * And the user whose comments you deleted was expressing amazement that Tim Cain is as idolized as he is with the track record he's got. Sure, you disagree. Sure, I disagree. But it's not trolling.--Gothemasticator 18:33, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * The course of action I'm taking is simply to advise you to refrain from deleting so many blog comments. Yes, I read the deleted comments before I approached you. I've also been reading back through the deletion log. You are overzealous in your deletions, and it's disruptive to the community. A better approach in this latest set would have been to delete the one comment that contained the "drooling fanboys" language and to post a message on the user's talk page warning him about the policy against insults. That would almost certainly have been enough.
 * As for my "chewing you out," my aim is to point out to you that you do use double standards, and that is perennially disruptive to the community. If you are zealous enough to "pre-emptively" delete a comment that was not in and of itself trolling (as you did a few days ago, noted in conversation with Jspoel), then you should be zealous enough to tone down your own language which suggests insultingly that another user cannot possibly have taste and like FO3.
 * Deleting another's comments should be a last resort. Civility and rational argument, which you are good at, are better for the community.--Gothemasticator 19:13, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

I have to agree with Gothemasticator has brought up. I cant say that comments like "Error: Fallout 3 as best Fallout game and developed taste. DOES. NOT. COMPUTE." is any different than "WTF Fallout 3 is clearly the best". They are equal and opposing views of the same debate (one side you support and the other you oppose), one of which you you delete and the other you post. I think this is reinforced by the response it got, which to me identifies the original, comment as trolling/flame baiting in its own right. Additionally, it is boarder line going against the admin policy of not using Admin powers to settle a dispute.

As for the question of over-zealously deleting comments. While you do bring up some valid points, others are not so valid. Of the 2 deleted today (excluding parent comment deletion), one I would agree with and the other not so much. I feel that certain views are actioned because of an overly defensive nostalgic feelings for past games. This is where I lay down a challenge, if something is so great - then way cant it stand up to simple debate points view? I think the simple answer it to replace FO1/2 for FO3 (and vice versa) in any of your comments, then ask yourself if you would delete that comment. User Avatar talk.png 22:19, October 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Why should the minority have more rights though? What you are enforcing is positive discrimination of a minority view point. When you should be trying to enforce zero discrimination. It is one thing to delete negative comments, under the guise of affirmative action for the minority. But perpetuating the divide and resentment from the opposing view point by posting similar counter statements, does nothing for fairness either. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 19:33, October 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Assuming I am annoyed, or even emotionally affect in any way, by the comments has no relevance (or in this case, even being correct). The point I am trying to get across is the general hypocrisy (and I use the term loosely) of it. On one hand you delete such comments, while with the other you post similar comments. Now, one or the other action in on itself isn't so bad, and can be given the leeway that you speak for. It is doing both at the same time where the issue resides. Which then de-evolves the whole debate into a debacle and accusations of misuse of admin powers. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 19:57, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Ain't this fun?
Utterly entertaining :3 - Hugs  "Say 'ello to my little friend!"
 * 1) http://www.victoryforever.com/rockwell/midvale6.jpg
 * 2) http://www.aryan-nation.org/zog/aryanman/rock1.jpg
 * 3) http://www.aryan-nation.org/zog/aryanman2.htm.html
 * 4) http://www.aryan-nation.org/zog/aryanman3.htm.html

*facepalm* of epic proportions. -- ☢Valoopy☣ 02:37, October 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just a random anon passing by, but surely that site should be banned. --94.112.206.233 10:51, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Europa
Hi Tag i could not help but notice you had a little fan fiction goining on here, if you want you could add it to my wikia. http://falloutsandbox.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Sandbox_Wiki just make a page and add anything that you made to it. The Netherealm awaits for you 02:57, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.
Thanks, Tagaziel. -- Yakov 13:13, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

YakovFrolov
Firstly, that was not the only reason for the ban - there was also insulting other users - for which he has a track record and has been given leeway in the past with the same promise. I see no reason why that promise would be any different than past promises. Secondly, it was also admitted in chat about the sock puppet - which I probably still got the logs for. User Avatar talk.png 16:57, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * http://www.mediafire.com/?10fenopj2qcryg3
 * I still see that you are ignoring the insults to other users... seems strange on my part, that you are only focussing on one part and using it as the whole reason to remove the ban - when it was not the whole reason for the ban in the first place. Either way, that part is not circumstantial and remains unanswered. Since there is a track record of previous incidents, that alone is deserving of the ban to be enforced. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 18:33, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * After further thought, I will agree with the ban being lifted for the sake of one last chance. But if he violates the rules again, there will be no leniency. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 18:45, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again.
Thanks again, Tagaziel. Guess I'll be civil around here. -- Yakov 07:32, October 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * On another note, check my blog out if you can. Just thought I should let you know :) -- Yakov 07:34, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

User rights
Well, you already have admin rights; user rights are preserved when using the migration tool and I just double-checked your rights to make sure. Unlike with e.g. Monobook, the advanced tools (such as moving) can be found in a dropdown menu next to the search bar. That dropdown can be easy to miss if your browser still has the old CSS cached (I worked on its visibility yesterday evening), so a hard refresh might help you find it :) -- Porter21 (talk) 10:28, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Magnum
So basically, like the .45 Auto round then. Yeah, I can add it to the bot. Although it might be a little while, I am kinda dis-hearted by it as I lost about 2 months work on the coding, but it will get done. And I defiantly agree with having some kind of list. User Avatar talk.png 00:34, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

NCR Map
Co do mapki. Są jakieś źródła że Vault City/Gecko i the Den są częścią NCR w 2281? Tak samo powinieneś chyba dać New Reno w jakimś neutralnym kolorze, bo chyba nie jest częścią NCR mimo silnej kolaboracji. Tak samo do Twin Mothers, źródła? W Lonesome Road są jakieś poważne? Bo mimo wszystko nie grałem W dodatku jak Cię najdzie chęć na pisanie jakichś fabularnych części, miło byłoby jakbyś ulepszył trochę VC, ostatnio mocno je przebudowałem i poprawiłem, aczkolwiek przydałoby się przeredagowanie, wydzielenie danych części do background'u i napisanie całej brakującej reszty, w czym jesteś najlepszy. W dodatku gdy klikam by zostawić Ci wiadomość na the Vault przenosi mnie na wikia, chyba powinieneś to naprawić. --Languorous_Maiar 21:56, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

In the FOC Region Map.png you created a few locations are off. Thats not to say I dont like it. I actually really like the Idea of a Regional map baised off of Game maps and geographic locations. Also some locations are missing.--Ant2242 02:50, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

RE: Yes but isn't Klamath and Arroyo in Washington? Also isn't New Reno both closer to the border and a little more south? Finially isnt Shady Sands in California, inbetween Vault 13 under Mt. Whitney to the west and Vault 15 to the east, at about the same distance?--Ant2242 17:15, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

RE,RE: How can I help?--Ant2242 18:42, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

RE,RE,RE: How do I check the map and locations and mark where I should move them?--Ant2242 12:42, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Location update help Since I cannot figure out how to work paint I'll list them for you. -This info I gathered from Fallout 2 locations -Info from The Vault. I think thats it.
 * Klamath is a town upon the remains of Klamath Falls, located in southern Oregon. Info from The Vault.
 * Therefore Arroyo is almost derectly east and the Toxic Caves are a little northeast from Arroyo.
 * New Rino was biult from Reno. It may be a little southwest from where you put it. Info from google maps.
 * Shady Sands or the town of NCR after Fallout 2, isn't located in Navada. It is located due east of Vault 13 and due west of Vault 15.
 * On The Vault Vault 13 is under Mt. Whitney.
 * I beleve the Divide may be in or around Death Valley but I'm not really sure. That seams like it makes the most sence to me.
 * Anza-Borrego is in the Anza-Borrego Desert State park somewhere.
 * On the Mexican side of the map the states are darkened, undefined, and Baja is not listed.

If there is anything else I can Help with just ask.--Ant2242 16:17, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

The best I could do, still can't figure out paint.--Ant2242 05:05, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Title for wars after Euro-Middle Eastern War
If the dissolving of the European Commonwealth was 2060 and they were until 2077 still fighting, acording to the Fallout Bible "...quarreling nation states, fighting over the remaining resources." What would that 17 year period be called? For Example. European Nation-state Wars? I am interested to hear your opinion on this matter.--Ant2242 20:10, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

But wouldn't a better name be European Commonwealth Civil War ...Wars ...War(s). Or Is it implied in the title already? I am curious to here your opinion on this matter.--Ant2242 12:06, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

RE,RE:True.--Ant2242 12:41, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I was bored
Time well spent - good work :) -- Porter21 (talk) 18:21, 9 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I like :) Done a little re-formatting of the pages - I think they look more balanced now. -- Porter21 (talk) 20:05, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Current forum discussions
If you have a moment of spare time, I'd appreciate your input on these forum discussions: Thanks in advance. -- Porter21 (talk) 19:15, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Forum:Community site
 * Forum:Help pages
 * Forum:Infobox person

Navbox
Sure, I can add the navbox. Not sure what you're referring to with the second part of your message? -- Porter21 (talk) 14:57, 14 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I might be a bit slow after spending a few hours figuring out some CSS bug, but I'm still not sure what you're referring to. Is it his message regarding Infobox person? If so, he's talking about the layout of game credits on articles about real-life people, not lead sections in general. The navbox has been added, by the way. -- Porter21 (talk) 15:10, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Revised template
Agreed, we do need nav boxes per game. But this one can still be used in the lore based overview pages like super mutant, which will give a edge along with per game nav boxes over Wikia. User Avatar talk.png 21:30, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Wine
Could I ask where you're finding the names of these wines? I don't doubt they're legitimate; I just want to know your source. Is it in-game or is it G.E.C.K. only? Or neither? --Kastera (talk) 23:10, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

More changes
I'll have the bot remove and have it go over all pages linked from Navbox Hidden Valley to make sure all of them include the newer navbox. -- Porter21 (talk) 11:01, 15 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Done. -- Porter21 (talk) 11:10, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

HELIOS One
Why was HELIOS One changed back to Helios One? It's addressed in all caps in game. --Kastera (talk) 17:43, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I can see your point, but it still doesn't seem right to me. Oh well; I guess that's what redirects are for, right? :) --Kastera (talk) 16:01, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Paper dolls
Honestly, I think it is a bit superfluous. It looks good, dont get me wrong, but does it really add to the page to have the image in-line with the inventory table, rather than in the gallery. The other issue would be with the inventory table sliding in next to the infobox on shorter article pages, at the moment it is formatted to fill the full width next to the infobox. Adding more content to that aspect of the page would mean reducing the size of the table to compensate. User Avatar talk.png 18:23, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Could you review?
Not much of a lore master, but from a layout point of view, it looks good and the text content flows in a logical manner for the reader. User Avatar talk.png 18:23, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Re: Decisions, decisions
Thanks. I think it's incorrect to say that the Wikia wiki is "in stasis", but I have to agree that I've been frustrated with the staff (including Jsp) there knee-jerk reverting some of my serious edits with no comment and out of paranoia. It's almost like they're too busy racking up edit counts for Wikia badges to bother nurturing other editors or verify the accuracy of content changes. I think I'm going to migrate some of my recent Wikia changes as a test to see if the staff here reacts a bit more reasonable. --(talk) 16:41, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Need help with page move
Hello again. There's a page that needs to be swapped with its redirect, and someone with article deletion powers needs to do it so that the history of the primary page is retained. Could you delete the redirect page Mrs. McBain's corpse and then move Mrs. McBain to Mrs. McBain's corpse? I believe this is justified for two reasons:
 * 1) This is the in-game name for the object that is her body.
 * 2) The Sheriff McBain's corpse article is similarly named.

Thanks! --(talk) 04:23, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing this. Now I can bring over some more of my recent edits on the other wiki :) --HunterZ_tiny.png(talk 22:24, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Leather jacket
Just to let you know, I have redirected the page to leather armor, since that page already consists of an overview page including the leather jacket variants. Plus, game specific pages exist for both VB and FO1 with the detailed stats etc.. User Avatar talk.png 18:49, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Tactics
Thought you might be interested, since you are spending some time adding content to FOT pages. I have split some of the massively large categories in Category:Attention required to a per game category. So for example, instead of the massively large Category:Image needed, we now have Category:Fallout Tactics image needed. Additonally, there are now Category:Fallout Tactics section needed, Category:Fallout Tactics infobox incomplete etc. Just to help people focus on certain games they are adding to or interested in, instead of wading through what is essentially irrelevant junk. Just thought that might help you in improving FOT that need some attention. User Avatar talk.png 21:35, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I only have the trilogy disc, which is v1.13. Is that of any use to you? User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 21:52, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I am not familiar with the tactics file structure, so if you tell me the file names (I am assuming they are all the spr-character_???.bos files, but I just want to make sure), I will zip them and send them over to you. As for patch differences, the general practise I have seen is to include only the most current patches version in the main content and infobox, while noting any changes in the notes section as a single entry e.g. Prior to patch xxxx, such and such was x. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 18:09, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Title Change?
Why the change From Brotherhood Civil War to Brotherhood Divide (Capital Wasteland)?--Ant2242 17:19, 8 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Concerning this, wouldn't it be more gramatically correct to rename it the Brotherhood of Steel Division? --Kastera (talk) 19:49, 8 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Considering it actually only involves a single chapter of the Brotherhood. I think it would be best called Capital Wasteland Brotherhood of Steel (Divide/Division/Conflict etc.). In its current format the title suggests that it is only one of other divisions, therefore only a small part of a much larger internal conflict. Or at least to me it does. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 20:30, 8 January 2012 (UTC)


 * The problem is, making something unambiguous by using parentheses, suggests there is more than one instances. Example would be 'pagename (Fallout 3)', which suggests there are other versions in other games. So having 'Brotherhood Divide (Capital Wasteland)' would suggest that was also the same conflict happening across the other chapters e.g. that there should be a page called 'Brotherhood Divide (Mojave Wasteland)' for example. So therefore this is a just a smaller conflict of a much larger division. Thats kinda the point I was trying to get across. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 21:17, 8 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Sounds good to me. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 03:36, 10 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I had changed it from 'civil war' to 'schism' a few weeks ago on wikia but it was reverted. Glad there are cooler heads lacking the urge to creatively embellish here. I like schism, but anything is better than civil war since its more of a petty skirmish. Wait, can 'Capital Wasteland Brotherhood of Steel Petty Skirmish' be the title? Xclockwatcher 17:08, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Steam
I never add anyone on Steam, other people always add me first. Why? :o Nitty the Kitty! 13:21, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Buy me a drink first, sailor. Rrrr. Nitty the Kitty! 13:41, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * You know I love ya, man. :3
 * I'm just plain Nittykitty on Steam. Nitty the Kitty! 13:44, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

NMA link
Do you think you could you get someone to update the link to The Vault in NMA's link section? Backlinks (i.e. links leading to this site) help improve our search engine ratings, and every little bit helps :) -- Porter21 (talk) 19:13, 19 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks :) -- Porter21 (talk) 21:26, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Templates (new for adding)
Has been added. -- Porter21 (talk) 22:45, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Composite images
Sure :) Nice work. -- Porter21 (talk) 22:14, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm guessing...
that you are going through the pictures Bethesda put up and up loading them? κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~]  17:02, 16 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Of course I will, though I'm not a fan of you phrasing it as an order. Where are you up to? Should I work in from the last page forward? And where do I put them? κηδεμόνας  [~μιλώ~]  17:05, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It wasn't phrased as an order, it was a request to consider helping me out here :) Anywhoo, I think it's best for you to work from the last page backwards. As for putting them in: weapon and armor concept art is self-explanatory. I usually put vehicle concept art in whatever article is appropriate (eg. Truck or derelict vehicles), while location concept art varies on the subject: generic concept art goes into Capital Wasteland or Washington, D.C. (urban areas). Character concept art can double on character pages and their outfit page. I'm currently finishing page 3: that's some 210 images uploaded! Tagaziel 17:10, 16 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Good job I watch recent changes; this is your page you plum ;) κηδεμόνας  [~μιλώ~]  17:13, 16 February 2012 (UTC)


 * How are you getting past the copyright? κηδεμόνας  [~μιλώ~]  17:15, 16 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, missed that. That'll save me some time ;) κηδεμόνας  [~μιλώ~]  17:25, 16 February 2012 (UTC)


 * This might annoy you, but I have to go and cook for my little brother, sorry. I'll be back and carry on as soon as I can :) κηδεμόνας  [~μιλώ~]  17:44, 16 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Tell her I said hi ;) Yeah, sure will. Just so you know, I'm saving them, and I will upload them in one hit, so fear not if you don't see them for a few days ;) κηδεμόνας  [~μιλώ~]  17:52, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Concept art
Thanks, I didn't know that the photos could be in a higher resolution that in the album. I'll start uploading high res versions of the concept art I already uploaded. Shadowrunner(stuff) 21:08, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Block image leeching
While I understand the sentiment, I don't think this is going to be possible. It's the nature of the internet that any images that can be viewed can also be downloaded (in fact, they're downloaded - into the browser cache - just to view them), and unfortunately there's no real way to tell bots from normal visitors (otherwise we'd have a much easier time to get rid of those pesky spam bots). -- Porter21 (talk) 19:03, 19 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, robots.txt is only obeyed by "good" robots (i.e. search engine spiders), malicious ones naturally simply ignore it. -- Porter21 (talk) 19:09, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey Tag
Just wondering where you are up to, because I am a fair way through them all now, and want to make sure that we aren't going to overlap. κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~]  18:53, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

The Atomic V8 engine
They aren't the same car. The Atomic V8 refers to the engine not the model. If you look at the in game billboards one is a more retro fifties boxy rear engine two door, and the other is a sleaker two-door Bubble-Top with no obvious location of the engine.--Ant2242 20:31, 20 February 2012 (UTC)


 * So your saying that its the newer version just body wise, like the 2nd gen Atomic V8 two-door? Because in the game (Fallout 3) the billbard dosen't have Atomic V8 on it nore dose it have It's a Beauty! ether.--Ant2242 01:55, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Also what makes you think that ether billboard is older than the other?--Ant2242 19:59, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Could be the other way around Bubble-Top second and Box-Top first. What if the Bubble-Top has yet to be releaced be Corvega due to the Great-War.

Also youre baseing the Atomic V8 engine it has on the concept art, but the In Game Billboard dose Not include these fetures, so it could even have a different engine. After all some newer cars sometimes don't have the newer engine due to logisics, economic, or developing/political issues.--Ant2242 19:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC) And it could be a different car there realy isn't a document saying their the same (other than a Similar concept art billboard that isn't used in game), one could be a mussle car and the other could be more of a luxury model although that is also an edjucated speculatory statement.--Ant2242 20:10, 26 February 2012 (UTC) True the Concept art is the source but it was changed, then put in game. I'm thinking that the Atomic V8 is more like the BOSS engine, a major advertising feature for a spacific vehicle.--Ant2242 01:58, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Flicker images
You need do no more now, I'll have finished uploading them by tomorrow. I did the aliens, but now I need to go to bed. Is that okay with you? κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~]  21:58, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Done!
Huzzahs! *hands cold beer* We now have all the concept art; all 800 and something pictures! So, what now? Split them up tomorrow? Φύλαξ [~μίλησε μου~] 23:29, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


 * No offense Tagz, but are you going to help me out? Φύλαξ [~μίλησε μου~] 21:31, 4 March 2012 (UTC)


 * That's fair enough. I forgot that to be honest with you... When will/will you be back up to full speed? Auch, willkommen aus Deutschland! Aber, ich leben auf Deutschland nicht... Hmmm, Φύλαξ [~μίλησε μου~] 16:59, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

NPC reactions to followers
The only reason I did that was due to the 5 quote limit for notable quotes. Technically, there isn't even a provision in the layout guidelines for quotations about the character. Adding them in to begin with goes back to the old argument of notability to be included in the article. Additionally, if someone want to see a quote from the Kings towards Cass, shouldn't they be viewing that on the Kings gang member page? To be honest, I am not for or against the inclusion of such items, I am more looking at keeping the pages clean and tidy for the readers. As for the collapsible table idea, like with all things, it has it positive and negative sides. The negative being that for viewers who have JavaScript switched off or blocked with the likes of noscript (such as I do in many cases), the table does not collapse on page view.

That aside, if we was to take this approach, I would suggest ditching the table in favor of collapsible div (newly introduced in MediaWiki 1.18). So we can show the top 5 quotes, then a 'show' link that expands to reveal the rest in the normal in-line style (example below). Might be an idea, if we go down this route, to create a template for easier implementation and use thereof. 20:18, 23 May 2012 (UTC)




 * I will set up a template for it, just need to find a intuitive name for the template. Only name I can think of at present is 'overflow content', what do you think? User avatar tag.gifUser Avatar talk.png 19:40, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Added Expandable content. User avatar tag.gifUser Avatar talk.png 21:47, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Moving a page
Can you please move Sewer (Grayditch) to Sewer grate? The former page has all the correct information, and the latter has the correct name.--Ant2242 19:55, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I got this for you Tagz. --Kastera (talk) 21:09, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Wasteland Wiki - Did you know
Any chance you could whip up a basic "Did you know...?" section for the Wasteland Wiki? I've created the section template already but since I know next to nothing about Wasteland I can't really fill it with content. Help would be appreciated :) -- Porter21 (talk) 11:50, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Radio Towerz
Enjoyment from the fine picture - minimal.

Enjoyment from the filename - tons. :3 Nitty the Kitty! 18:02, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Images of characters
Old were much better, now we can see a little and background on the sides is quite unnecessary. --Languorous_Maiar 12:06, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I have also got to say that the old images looked better, although could do with being converted to .png. As for adding context, that can be done with images in the gallery. User avatar tag.gifUser Avatar talk.png 01:08, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Ohh you are doing wonders with the location images. But, I would prefer the old location images be moved down to the gallery, instead of being removed. That is of course, unless they are taken from the exact same position. And don't get me wrong, the character images are better quality. It just doesn't look so good when the image size is reduced to the infobox with all that extra space around them, it looses focus of the actual subject of the image. User avatar tag.gifUser Avatar talk.png 12:15, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Shady Sands
I know it's been a long debate about it in the Nukapedia, however, imho that two articles should be connected. New California Republic (town) uses Shady Sands background and appearances, also don't bring ANYTHING new. Other locations like vault 13, 15 and mariposa base are together. Why not about Shady Sands? All may be well done, now is a little chaos there. --Languorous_Maiar 14:23, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Images column
Should be back to the previous default now. -- Porter21 (talk) 07:28, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Talon Company screen
Zdajesz sobie sprawę, że dałeś tam screen Tenpenny Tower, a ten z faktyczną walką członków Talona usunąłeś? Przy okazji, świetna robota, z wszystkim co tutaj robisz. --Languorous_Maiar 14:11, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It would be nice if, in your free time could you check and revise VC. --Languorous_Maiar 11:16, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Lyons' Brotherhood rewrite
Im kind of at an impass. Im not sure how to proceede on this article. At this point I think that the best way to continue is to replace the article now and finish it as The Vault's page? What do you think?--Ant2242 17:23, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Charicter Dialogue cash page(s)
Do you know how the dialogue is referenced to in the GECK? I ask because I'm trying to do a dialogue tree as a personal wiki project and I don't own a PC version of Fallout 3 or NV. Its purpose is to get all possible accurate references from each charicters' indivigual dialogue.--Ant2242 01:24, 29 July 2012 (UTC)