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Tagaziel (talk) 13:52, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Canon
Hey Brosi, thanks for your question! As Fallout and Fallout 2 and supplementary materials are part of the canon, with subsequent alterations made by Bethesda and Obsidian, of course. Bethesda seems to adopt an inclusionist stance, the only definite statements on canonicity are on FOT and FOBOS from Todd Howard, who is on record stating that BGS disregarded FOT and FOBOS during the development of Fallout 3.

Fallout Bible is still a canon part of the series as well, might I add, as Bethesda has not made a ruling and MCA, much as I love him, is in no position to decide what is and what is not canon. His opinion is just that: Opinion. Tagaziel (talk) 13:52, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

So at first thank you for your fast answer Tagaziel.
 * So my english is not so good at all, from what you wrote, i understand that Bethesda accepted everything without FOBOS & FOT. So am i right with my hypothesis that the Memoirs which you can find in the F2 Manual are truly Canon ? i cant figure it out of your answer, sorry for that.Brosi90 (talk) 14:00, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, yes they are. Tagaziel (talk) 14:13, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Okay perfect. Are there any proofs for that ? i remeber that a terminal in the Citadelle in F3 mentioned about Athur Maxon meets the Wanderer. That fact is part of the Canon, because this content is in F3 and the Memoirs also tell us about the Wanderes who meets the BoS.May this fact be a proof for that? My god, i hope you understand what i mean :D - Anyway its very nice to have people around you who are interesed in Fallout Lore and Canon things. I think i arrived home here Brosi90 (talk) 14:17, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I would agree, you are home :)
 * And there's no proof needed, given that it's a part of Fallout 2 - and Fallout 2 is still fully canonical. Tagaziel (talk) 14:24, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Hm okay... So did i unterstand right that you say the Memoirs are a Part of F2 not of F1 ? But it told the Story about what happends after the Overseer send him to exile until the a few days before he left Arroyo and was presumed death, doesnt it ?Brosi90 (talk) 14:33, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

More responses
I'll itemize them for ease of use :)


 * 1) Our competition is a touchy subject. Let's leave it at that. I can elaborate in private.
 * 2) Bethesda bought the entire IP. They own it. They only removed two games from the continuity, FOT and FOBOS. There's no need to prove that Fallout or Fallout 2 are canonical, as Bethesda has given no reason to doubt their position in the lore. And given that the memoirs are a part of Fallout 2's supplementary materials (the manual), it's canon just like the underlying game.
 * 3) Yes, that's an official picture. It's Leonard Boyarsky's artwork for Fo1.
 * 4) Well, linking to the best articles on the wiki, like the Brotherhood of Steel or NCR is a good start. :) Tagaziel (talk) 20:41, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Vault Workshop
I don't really have an opinion of it. It's optional workshop content and as far as optional workshop content goes, we don't really account for it when writing about the lore. The good thing is, maybe there'll be official designations for subsystems. Tagaziel (talk) 16:00, 15 June 2016 (UTC)