Talk:Ranger Sequoia/Archive 2

Unique?
If it is sometimes found on NCR Veteran Rangers (like in one YouTube video), then its only a rare weapon, and not a unique?

Yes indeed. Rare until late-game (Elite Rangers), so not unique by definition. It does not belong on the unique page. I suspect most people THINK it is unique because Hanlon drops it.
 * Putting item back on unique as geck lists only one use with a NPC, vids can be faked by either use of console commands to add inventory or reverse pick pocketing before killing a NPC. Avatar 18:02, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Check again. Used by 1 NPC (2CHanlon) and placed in the game in one location (2CCmpGolfResort) makes at minimum 2 instances of the gun ingame. Add to that its existence on a leveled list which can be traced to the leveled lists of NCR Ranger Veterans, and this weapon, while rare, is not unique. -- 18:52, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * As in the summary: The weapon is listed with exact one leveled item "LVLI", the first entry in the use info list. There are finally 19 different NPCs listed wich can hold this item via LVLI, an one NPC wich has it in every game. 91.39.105.111 18:50, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL damn you Kris, you responded a lot quicker than I expected to fully investigate and save me the effort ;)
 * Now are you going to go and look at why people keep changing the Mysterious Magnums statues on the main weapons page or do I have to post there as well ;) Avatar 20:23, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Unlimited copies
Most npc's in the game will have a new weapon (of the same type) after some time has passed, has only checked to see if this gun also respawns for the npc? Mictlantecuhtli 15:34, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

Karma loss
If you steal this weapon off of Hanlon, whenever you drop it and pick it back up you will continue to loose Karma from it each time you repeat it. Also selling it to a merchant and buying it back will not remove the stolen tag. I found this out while I was trying to put it on display in my lucky 38 suite.


 * Can't confirm this. With my Version (PC, Patch 1.02), it will have the stolen tag whenever I drop it, so it will turn red when dropped. But I only lost Karma the first time when I reverse pickpocketed it off Hanlon, I don't lose Karma when I pick it up again even though I'm "stealing" the weapon. (88.152.173.197 20:58, December 16, 2010 (UTC))

Easiest Possible Way to Obtain
Regardless of what you did with Hanlon in the quest the easiest way to get this gun is to take some C4 and put it behind his chair when he is on the balcony then jump off of it and crouch making sure you are hidden. Detonate the C4 and his corpse should fly off the balcony and land on the ground in front of the door. Loot his corpse for the gun and walk away like nothing happened. No karma loss, no NCR fame loss. Make sure you save first just in case. 67.184.55.83 02:41, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

Or you could just use a stealth boy and shoot him in the back of the head with any silenced weapon... (I prefer the silenced 12.7mm pistol myself) --173.28.228.84 21:44, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Bear's not Two-headed
Take a head count on that guys guys, It's not two headed.

Of course it's not. The single headed bear is the official symbol of the Rangers. Trizzip 01:42, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Weapon damage discrepancy - did they nerf this gun?
I have the PC version, newest Patch (1.02). Some mods installed, none of which affecting weapons. In the wiki the damage is 70, DPS 104. I just reverse pickpocketed this weapon from Hanlon and I got, with standard .45-70 rounds, DAM 58 DPS 123. My guns skill is 85 and strength is 6, so both skill requirements are fulfilled. With hollowpoint rounds I get DAM 101, DPS 196. So while the damage is sky-high with hollowpoint rounds, it's not really that useful against armored targets, as standard rounds don't do nearly as much damage and I haven't found AP rounds yet. Does anyone else get these DAM and DPS values? Is it because of the new patch? --88.152.173.197 21:48, December 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just because you meet the skill requirement doesn't mean you're getting the max damage out of the weapon. Maybe those 15 points will make a difference? :P
 * There is no AP .45-70 either; the closest is SWC, which cuts out a little DT. Nitty Tok. 14:58, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well think about it. A hollow-point round multiplies a targets DT by x3, so if you shoot a target with 20 DT like a Ranger Veteran, then the HP round treats the DT like it's 3 times higher than it actually is, so 60 DAM will be taken away from that shot, leaving you with final, and somewhat paltry damage of just 41. --TJbrena 16:32, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Could someone do a little math for me?
I want to know the max damage for this weapon with a sneak crit with all possible perks and hollow point ammunition. let's assume the target has 0 DT as well.

It does 353.58 damage with better criticals, the cowboy perk, bloody mess and lord of death. If you are using psycho it is increased to 441.975. P.S sign your posts. From the desk of kevin obkirchner 01:30, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

And The Professional perk too?, that affects revolvers, pistols and submachine guns sneak attack critial by %20

LOL
I have to say that it looks like the pfeifer zeliska 600 nitro express revolver...