Talk:Van Graffs

Racists
I think the Van Graff's are Black supremacists. There are 20-30 people connected to the Van Graff's in the Mojave Wasteland, dead (raided caravans) or alive, and none of them is white. They don't have any white employee's.
 * Two of the Silver Rush guards are Caucasian; baseids 0011839b and 001183a3. -- 18:09, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

List of all quests regarding killing Van Graffs could prove usefull.. Seems a few quests if initiated prior, could be completed or advanced at one time..

Tiaret
I know that Gloria specifically mentions her mother during the after-action talk in the Silver Rush after the Legion double-cross, but does she ever call Tiaret by name? Nitty Tok. 17:03, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Relationship with other factions
So, having two playthroughs, one a Brotherhood Paladin that helps bring the Brotherhood and NCR together and stands against everything evil, and the other Mr. House's personal enforcer, I was asking myself, how do the three main factions see the Van Graffs?

The Legion probably wants them dead. That's easy to determine because of the Van Graff's intention of backstabbing them and the Legion's hate against pretty much anyone else. But what about the others?

For my first playthrough with the Brotherhood Paladin it wasn't a difficult decision whether the Van Graffs should die, because the Brotherhood wouldn't allow the technology. But how does the NCR really see them? On the one hand, you have this criminal syndicate that hopes to eradicate all opposing caravan companies, which the NCR, by the help of Cass in Heartache by the Number, definitely want to stop. On the other hand, you have the Van Graffs kind of allying the NCR by helping them against the Legion in Birds of a Feather after killing Cass (seems contradictory at first, but then the NCR also wouldn't know about the crimes of the Van Graffs ... Or they do, and still want to use their smaller enemy to backstab a much greater threat). So which of the scenarios would the NCR favor?

In the second playthrough, I thought about what House would say about the situation with the Van Graffs, and that's also my main question. Do you think House and the Strip would prefer stopping the Van Graffs' conspiracy against the caravans in Heartache by the Number, or would he rather favor helping the Van Graffs? I'm really not sure what he could see in this syndicate. After all, House himself does not need the Van Graffs for anything, but maybe they are also somewhat helpful sitting in Freeside and selling energy weapons to the people of New Vegas. More specifically, would House and the Strip need the Van Graffs out of business, or keep them there by killing Cass and favor the backstabbing plan against the Legion? What do you think? Vladimir-Lem 12:26, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

kill em all and let god sort em out
in my mind the van graffs are scum walking the wasteland all of them deserve to be eradicated from the world and never heard from again to me i say they are number 2 on my fallout shitlist right under the legion they all deserve to die and burn in hell to burn for an eternity of fire and brimstone--Corporal grif 10:33, August 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, isn't that totally irrelevant? The talkpage is for debating and discussing what should be on the page proper, and such, not spouting random feelings for what dwells on the page. Scar: "Say 'ello to my little friend!" 10:43, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

well what i am basically trying to say is its better to kill them and loot thier stuff rather than going wit thier quset--Corporal grif 10:53, August 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, and I'm a frakkin' butterfly, ain't I? Please keep this sort of comments of talkpages. Scar: "Say 'ello to my little friend!" 11:04, August 6, 2011 (UTC)