Forum:What happened to the rest of the world?

I've just been wondering, Fallout focuses on the US alone and this is fine. However, nothing in any of the games seem to suggest what has happened in other countries. Are they worse off or better off than the US? Why haven't they made contact? How on earth did tenpenny get across the Atlantic? I really want to know the answers to these questions (not least because i'm english). Tenpenny and Moriarty never mention the 'outside world' as it were. I just think this is a pretty big gap that they should fill. also, i really want to know what happened the China.
 * The rest of the world is probably in as bad of a state as the US, or worse. Emil Pagliarulo said that the fact that Tenpenny crossed the Atlantic to seek his fortune in America is an indication of how bad England is. Chris Avellone said in the Fallout Bible that they're leaving it open, and consciously don't reveal too much about the state of the world, so that they're not too constricted if they ever decide to visit other places. Ausir 19:31, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Well Zimmerman is from the commonwealth in europe and he says it's pretty much the same as the capital wasteland save the large underground "Institute."
 * The Commonweath Zimmerman is from is not in Europe...it's up north in Massachusetts, lol. --Esscex 00:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Yup, the Commonwealth Zimmerman speaks of is Massachusetts, not the European Commonwealth. Ausir 00:33, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

The US is probably a lot better off than most other countries due to it's size. While nuclear devastation affected plants and the atmosphere and such, the ground wouldn't be as bombed out in the more rural areas. PlasmaFox 00:28, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, considering how many nuclear bombs were set off, the fallout was probably worldwide, causing radioactive rain, radioactive ocean water, and lord knows what else. This no doubt caused mass famine around the world, and sickened millions. Nichos354

I recall Nathan Vargas saying something to the effect of "America is the best country in the world, maybe the only country left in the world." That's pretty much the only mention I know of in fallout 3, and its from a crazy old man. Radioactive fallout is worldwide by definition. Permanent air currents such as the jet stream may have an effect on the concentration of radioactive particles that fall back to earth, but they will be otherwise uniform worldwide. Regardless of the destruction caused by the nuclear explosions, it was the fallout that created the waistlands. Every nation on the planet would have suffered the same environmental effects, though mutations would occur differently, deathclaws, for example, would likely not exist as such in Europe and Asia, assuming of course that they are mutations and not something more. The deciding factor in the survival of any other nation would be its preparedness. I am still not sure myself as to where all the US survivors came from, I can't imagine anyone surviving outside a vault or private shelter, and I can't imagine there being a considerable number of effective non-vault shelters. I highly doubt however, that a nation like china, would have measures in place to protect a sufficient number of citizens for procreation. Mote likely they would only save top military and government personnel, and they and their decedents will likely have been long gone by now.--Sotanaht 02:36, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Every country is like the USA, EXCEPT Australia whos going "WTF Mates?"

cant be as bad as china and america they would have had the most nukes to throw at each other.20:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


 * There are parts of America that aren't affected. The DLC for Pitt will show that they weren't hit directly with a bomb, and only suffer because some of the radiation got in their drinking water. I am sure the more populated areas of America were hit, but some areas will be less affected or not touched at all. Gsmikem 21:25, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Even if not hit directly, they were still affected by the fallout. Ausir 21:33, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

wonder why there aren't more fallout shelters in the game there should be a lot especially out in the wastes next to all of the houses or in the small communities and farms out there in the middle of no were.01:33, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

I think there weren't any shelters because the war was pretty long and no one believed there'd be bombs dropped. The Vaults performed so many drills so a lot of the ppl who had access weren't convinced the bombs where dropping when they were, so I guess "cried wolf" was the government then. I think the other countries were all obliterated eventually, but a few may have survived :O They left it very open ended. Octupus8 21:13, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Growing up in the late 70's I remember seeing Fallout Shelter signs on Gov't buildings like the post office and county courthouse, but in the height of cold war hysteria many people built shelters of their own in basements and backyards. However it was probaly not a significant enough proportion ot the population to warrant game inclusion beyond the shelters found near radio towers. The Timeline article has some interesting details about events immediatly surrounding the war and the condition of other parts of the world.--JiNX Bloodfang 23:07, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure where it's at, or whether the information is simply speculation, but somewhere in an article on this Wiki, it was mentioned that a lot of people (probably?) survived in the Metro tunnels.--Niksilp 23:51, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

your thinking about Franklin utility tunnels lots of ghouls. lots of people hard small little bunkers so did schools my dad had a neighbor with a bunker and my middle school had a large bunker under the gym. 00:14, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Europe was already devastated from wars between itself for oil. When atomic war came, no doubt they were affected. Although there is no theory supporting they were nuked, it is obvious they suffered the radiation affects. The middle east was already bombed out. Tenpenny is from England and Moriarty is from Ireland. This would support the theory they were not bombed, so ships were left available for transport. I wouldn;t doubt Europe was nuked, but to what extent. Obviously they were crippled by the loss of the U.S. and China as the industrial powerhorses. I'd say the rest of the world just collapsed and mutated.--I-am-a-panda 23:54, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

ships wouldn't all be affected some would have been out at sea or like the ship from San Francisco still usable. 00:10, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

True, but all ships in the capital wasteland are wasted. Most fisherman probably died at sea, or from radiation, or lack of food at sea when the decided to not go back. --I-am-a-panda 00:27, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

true but the big ships would have been carrying more supplies and would have been far out at sea if they had advanced warning they could have gone to a island that wouldn't have been bombed and would have gotten radiation because they are so far out, away from the bombs and fallout. they could also have gone to places on mainland all around they world that didn't get bombed.00:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)