Talk:Allistair Tenpenny/Archive 1

'If you disarm the bomb, but don't kill Burke(?), he - or Burke in his name - will put out a Contract for Extermination on the player character.' Is there any evidence for this? I've noticed talon company mercs and regulators come after you if your karma gets too high or too low, and both will have contracts on them, but I don't believe killing burke or Tenpenny will have any effect on that. Mercury Zero 02:12, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with this. Talon Company Merns may carry a Private Contract on me, but no Contract for Extermination. Removing. --DarkJeff 18:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm playing on 360 and the back door to the tenpenny tower suite is still unlocked so...

Glitch?
I'm Playing on the 360, and i kill Tenpenny with a sneak attack critical with Wazer Wifle, energy weapons skill about 20, and the guards don't notice, and gustavo doesn't declare himself owner of the tower. can anyone get the same results?

Lying, Congressional Style
Based on the Tenpenny Tower article, I'm inclined to believe that Allistair sometimes has the book on him because he picked it up off his desk. Has anyone that actually looted it off him found the book on his desk as well? --DarkJeff 18:44, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Empty Suite
The article says that the Empty Suite is still even if you told blow up Megaton in "The Power of the Atom" quest. I just looked and saw both doors into the Empty Suite locked. Is this just old information and it got fixed with a patch or was it always wrong?--SemperxFidelis 23:00, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Bias
If you talk to Tenpenny you will notice that he is not a bigot, nor did he actively try to blow up Megaton. Burke was the one who wanted to blow up Megaton, Tenpenny never suggested it, all he did was say he didn't like the look of it. As for bigot, Tenpenny never really seemed to care.


 * Uh. If you talk to Tenpenny, you realize he *is* a bigot. He flat says, "I hate zombies" during "You Gotta Shoot 'Em In The Head." He is a dangerous psychotic, though, so the fact that he hates ghouls is the least of his problems. 99.6.39.6 17:32, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

The Dialouge tree relating to Megaton states the while Tenpenny did not think of blowing up Megaton, Burke brought him arround to the idea asthe bomb is "unstable" and 'it was inevitable'(paraphrasing on my part). Tenpenny does make a point of saying that he instructed Burke to encourage the townsfolk to leave before blowing the charge.- Khyrin 15:30, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Agree with claims of bias.
There is also the fact that tenpenny is willing to accept ghouls into the tower as long as some of the other residents agree.

and look what happens if he lets them live there..exactly...a ghoul hater for good reasons lol.LuciusZelgius 07:26, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

actually...during the "You Gotta Shoot 'em in the Head" while talking to him about Crowley, at one point in the conversation, he says "I hate those shufflers", so he is a bit of a bigot. 'course, who can blame him? as for Megaton, I agree with what's been stated 71.57.77.186 02:33, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

tenpenny cant die?
Well this is some sort of glitch in ps3 version, cause i cant kill tenpenny! I have tried everything all melee weapons and guns, but no!He still turn hostile on me when i try to kill him.I still have some other save games where i can kill tenpenny!--SURVIOR OF HOLOCAUST 16:33, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

bigot
removed comment about him being a bigot. He had no problems with ghouls, and only kept them out due to his residents being bigots. The reference to shoot em in the head is irrelevent, as the people claimed to be biggots we acutally just former associates of crowley he hated. -DragonJTSLeave me a message 15:30, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Acually, tenpenny will tell you he hates ghouls during "You gotta shoot 'em in the head". Tzaro the Outcast 03:11, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

trivia
I think Tenpenny might be an allusion to Robert Neville of the movie "The Omega Man" rather than (or in addition?) to Amon Goeth. Neville in one scene shoots at "the Family", deformed humans (->ghouls), with a sniper rifle, wearing clothes similar in style to those of Tenpenny. Nordwut

I killed Tenpenny and I liked it
Killing Tenpenny and throwing him of the tower is FUN! After you kill him then you throw yourself off then load back and do it AGAIN!

WE KNOW!!!!! The Victorious Phoenix 13:22, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Hitmen?
I couldn't find Tenpenny anywhere... but now I have both Talon Company Mercs AND Hitmen after me. is there any way to find tenpenny? His name is on the contract asking for me dead.

Unused Radio In G.E.C.K.
I rewrote this section under Notes: "Tenpenny's first name "Allistair" is reminiscent of "Aleister", another name of British origins donned by Aleister Crowley in real life, who is alluded in-game with Tenpenny's opposite number in Underworld, Mister Crowley in the likeness of their scheming, hinting to some sort of chirality in their personalities, as one is the owner of Tenpenny Tower, the pedestal of luxury in the Wasteland, being some sort of "paradise", whereas the other ostensibly being an important figure in Underworld. If you check him on the G.E.C.K., he has his own radio and even his own recordings for it. The only way to hear the radio is to enable it on the G.E.C.K."

But I don't know what to do with those last two sentences. Is it Tenpenny or Crowley who has the unused radio recordings? I'd like to restore the interesting fact to the correct page.

BTW, I rewrote the paragraph mostly because it's barely readable. The only definition of "chirality" I can find has to do with molecular chemistry. And I can't quite get what the author was trying to say about the importance of the two men.--Gothemasticator 22:42, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I think he's attempting to talk about Aliester Crowley, a proclaimed "sorcerer" and the "Most Wicked Man in the World." But sometimes I wonder how some of these people manage to survive daily tasks being completely illiterate.Killchain 06:48, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Burger King doesn't require you to read. Spoon 09:12, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Ghoul bigot
He may allow the ghouls in if you convince the residents, but a speech path about Crowley leads him to say that he hates those "brain-eating shufflers."--98.213.140.77 08:02, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Unconfirmed bugs moved from article
These bugs need to be confirmed by multiple editors before they can be reintroduced into the article. Please note what platform this happens on if you verify a bug. Remember multiple editors must confirm a bug.


 * After Tenpenny is dead, Gustavo will occasionally refer to him as being dead and at other times simply tell you to go talk to him for a solution. (unconfirmed)
 * If you kill Tenpenny, Mister Burke will take out his silenced 10mm pistol and begin to shoot you, even if you silently kill him while Burke is in another room. The guards don't care (even if they're up there). (unconfirmed)
 * Occasionally Tenpenny can completely disappear. If the player talks to Gustavo, he will act as though Tenpenny has died, despite the absence of a corpse. This can be especially damaging if the player intended to peacefully let the ghouls into Tenpenny Tower. However, if the player goes ahead and allows the ghouls to invade, Tenpenny's corpse can be found in his bathroom and can be looted as normal. If the player uses the console command to teleport himself to Tenpenny's refID, however, he will appear inside Tenpenny Tower's external geometry (a normally non-passable zone), and find Tenpenny's corpse lying on the ground. Apparently he fell through his balcony's floor all the way to the ground. However, even though Gustavo will still consider Tenpenny dead, Tenpenny can be resurrected or cloned, allowing the quest to be completed normally. (unconfirmed)
 * Tenpenny disappearing (possibly falling through the balcony and dying), can also accidentally help to complete the quest, You Gotta Shoot 'Em in the Head. Despite the fact that you did not kill Tenppenny, the quest notes will be checked off as if you did. This can then cause an odd situation if the 1.1 patch is installed after this, as Tenpenny will be brought back to life, but the quest notes will say that you killed him. (unconfirmed)
 * If you use a weapon with a knockdown effect (such as the Victory Rifle) and manage to knock Tenpenny over the railing of the balcony without killing him, he will fall towards the ground below and may then teleport back up onto the balcony. (unconfirmed)

--Kingclyde 04:36, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

bug?
i think i found a bug he never goes to the toilet in the game

Nor do most NPCs.This isnt a bug in anyway. Also sign your posts.JASPER42 13:16, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Howard Hughes??
"Tenpenny brings to mind Howard Hughes"??? Really? That's a bit of a stretch. Anyone agrees?? Setimir92 21:13, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * What's written up on the article page constitutes visual correlation (milk bottles, especially those lined up at the door) plus other context (wealthy recluse). Seems okay to me, and I'm picky about these things. Mind getting more specific?--Gothemasticator 21:30, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I never got any thoughts about him being anything like Howard Hughes, hell, even the 'town whore', Susan Lancaster doesn't go into his house. I guess if someone people see that then it's good to stay. Setimir92 21:41, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't see how my addition wasn't worthy of being noted? If people are claiming that there are similarities to Howard Hughes, surely people are questioning how Tenpenny would have travelled across the Atlantic Ocean??? The mentioning that Howard Hughes was an aviator amongst other notable things isn't a reference like the other points, but suggests that that was how Tenpenny got across to America?! Its not like I was claiming it was true to the game's canon. I wasn't aware that speculation like mine, which in my opinion answers a few questions about the mysterious Tenpenny, was not allowed on this wiki.--Benxander 01:24, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, speculation is to be avoided on article pages. The article pages are supposed to be informative. People come here to get info. Speculation, while fun, is not information, so it belongs on talk pages and forum pages.--Gothemasticator 10:10, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * I wasn't even aware it was really that much of an issue when in the context it was given. But whatever, having encountered plenty of gigantic leaps of speculation before in this wiki, I'll now know to edit them out if not at least make yourself and other admins aware.--92.9.139.17 01:00, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Re: bug?
yeah no one in the game does that

n00b xD

you can only drink out of a toilet in Fallout 3. everyone should know that the only sit-able items in the game are chairs, couches and..... chairs... :)