Talk:Eugene

Pickpocketing
Eugene can be pickpocketed, got it from Brick in the Ranger's Hideout after the mission had completed. fo shizzle


 * I thought i'd contribute to this one ... I've just pickpocketed old Brick .. i stripped myself of EVERYTHING .. and dumped it all in a AMMO BOX in the room where Brick is .. so that meant i had 0 weight. i then used a STEALH BOY and stole EUGENE off the bee-yotch .. jobs a good un!! 78.109.177.133 00:53, January 17, 2010 (UTC) **Boosi**

Eugene can indeed be pickpocketed after the mission without getting caught. Just wait unit 3:00 AM in the main room of the rangers HQ. Wait until all rangers go sleep on their bunk beds. It is necessary to wait until all the rangers go sleep. Then you can pickpocket Eugene from the sleeping Brick without pissing off the other Rangers.

actually its not necessary to wait for brick to sleep or anyone of them. i had 100 sneak skill and saved before pickpocketing and tried until getting it. if you do not have 100 sneak skill, then just use stealthboy.--That70sdude 02:47, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I find it easier to pickpocket Eugene after first stealing it's 5mm ammo from Brick, and then exiting and re-entering the Rangers Compund so that Brick unequips the minigun and switches to her 10mm pistol. --BadFengShui 09:24, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

This does not actually work for the 360, I tried all the methods as well as hei gui armour and a stealth boy simultaniously with the silent running perk. It's not possible, not even on very easy.Aryeonos 04:25, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

IT WORKS! I thought it was impossible but you will get it eventually. Just wait until she falls asleep. get into a position where your hidden. Use CSS and stealth boy at same time. then save. Reload if you get caught. You will eventually get it, trust me. Its funny cus right after i read it was impossible on 360 (im on 360) i got it next try :) that was though like literally my 30th try. -Anonymous

It also definitely works on PS3. I just waited till 3am, all the rangers were asleep. Positioned myself behind brick. Saved the game. Then took a stealth boy and pick-pocketed eugene straight off her. There must be a very low chance of success because the first 20 or so times I tried she caught me. But on the 21st time it worked! - Jon_tooth.

I killed the rangers once with no karma loss so that's always an option (After finishing the quest) if you don't mind killing them -anonymous

After stealing the ammo successfully, I stole the gun the first try. Thanks for the tip. -anonymous


 * Cleaned up the notes in the article about pickpocketing. I was able to walk into the Rangers' compound at around level 22 with a sneak skill of 100 and easily pickpocket it from her with most of the other Rangers watching. For some reason she already had a pistol equipped instead of Eugene, so I was confused when I later read the note in the article about having to pickpocket her ammo. I clarified the note to mention why and when pickpocketing her ammo might help. --HunterZ 03:57, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Trivia
Please please please get rid of some of the supid trivia. I mean are people just guessing what eugene could be related to? Maybe someone at bethesda always wanted a minigun named eugene for no reason at all. Eugene stone was the inventor of several rifls and assault rifles, but no miniguns that im aware of, and the police academy reference. wtf. this isnt trvia, this is stupid guesswork that doesnt belong.

I agree. Trivia is one thing, complete GUESSES are another.--ASL93ratjar 22:42, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Extra Eugenes?
Somehow Jericho multiplied it once for me --76.97.170.124

that can happen because the game might have crated a new one with a different ID so one of them belongs to Jericho(the new ID one) and the one that belongs to you(the old standard one with the normal ID)--That70sdude 02:20, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I got a second Eugene by choosing it as the reward from Rielly, and going back to the hotel and looting it from Brick's body.--24.45.225.208 02:38, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

One thing i noticed (this is with the first 3 DLCs) when i pickpocket her she has 2 eugenes a normal one and one that does 1937 damage and a value of 529948 [PC]


 * Could you post the BaseID for the high-damage one?? I've never seen it or any reference to it anywhere.... a minigun with that much damage would be jolly good fun... who knows, maybe it's the Mysterious Stranger's minigun??  If you have the ID for it, please post it!  (If you have the actual gun, you can get the BaseID by putting the gun in a container, such as a locker, and then with the console open, click on the locker to target it and type "showinventory".  That will give you the BaseID of every item in the container.)  I will be extremely happy with you if you can do this for me, and will award you with three and a half internets as payment for your trouble! 12.204.48.130 08:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I found two Eugenes on Brick's body, but can only get one. If I pick the one that's equipped, it disappears and shows up in my inventory as you would expect. However if I pick the one not equipped, it goes into my inventory, but still appears to be laying there next to her. No matter which I pick, they both disappear from her inventory. Both have the same ID (0006B538), but the one not equipped is in near perfect condition and the other is at 50%.--208.53.118.20 07:50, September 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * I saw two Eugene's on Brick while in the Rangers' compound long after completing the Rangers-related quests. When I pickpocketed one, the other disappeared from the inventory as well. --HunterZ 03:57, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

As an anti aircraft weapon.
I found that eugene makes a more effective anti vertibird weapon than the missile launcher, with far cheaper ammo, one could take down a vertibird with under a hundred shots, and with greater accuracy. worth noting maybe.

Crit Chance
Perhaps the article summary should note that Eugene can in fact crit in VATS as well as perform sneak attacks, which means the crit chance is probably not quite zero percent. Weapons with zero crit chance cannot achieve sneak attack crits either, if I recall. --DGoose 07:06, 23 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Well Sneak attack crits do 2x damage regardless of crit dmg, so even a weapon with 0 crit dmg will still be able to perform sneak crits. Not sure about VATS crits though. 68.192.9.90 19:58, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

Obtaing Eugene by shooting?
Does shooting Eugene out of brick's hands make the rangers hostile? Has anyone tried this? PhayzeShift 17:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

i beleive that you can however when i tried it the minigun simply vanished and she began shooting from thin air, she still had it however it was not on the floor nor in her inventory (this was on 360) (--91.104.108.103 08:43, 5 August 2009 (UTC))

It worked for me during the quest. I was in the Hotel lobby, trying to weaken her slightly so the mutants killed her, and suddenly it was on the floor - completely unintentional :) I grabbed it and she pulled out her pistol and carried on shooting the muties! [On 360] (86.161.49.126 15:52, November 21, 2009 (UTC))

Stupid
"The downside is that Eugene seems to gain a large amount of durability and will take many more shots to break than it did on the roof. " Do you know what a downside is? 69.105.97.237 15:18, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think what it means is that it takes many more shots to break it in the lobby than it would in the ranger compound.--67.189.142.55 21:50, March 26, 2011 (UTC)icommandoxx