User talk:132.183.140.139

Insults
Resorting to insulting other editors is no way to proceed on this wiki. It is a bannable offense.

You have some options when involved in a disagreement:
 * Discuss civilly on user or article talk pages.
 * Appeal to another administrator for some mediation.

You jumped directly from having a disagreement to insults. That behavior will get you blocked. Settle down and be civil.--Gothemasticator 21:47, February 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * You are right. That message was rash, and I am sorry.  I will apologize for to the user directly, but before I do so I want to lay out exactly what my disagreement entails.  Thank you for consistantly remaining calm. -132.183.140.139 21:54, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Notable loot
This sort of thing should go on the The_Vault_talk:Fallout_3_locations_project page. There is an existing discussion about this matter there. Ishotamaninnewreno 23:50, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

A little follow-up
I'm glad to see that the loot situation seems to be resolved. Kudos to you for keeping your temper even if you did not get your way. You mentioned above that you were going to apologize to Kingclyde. I think that would still be a good idea. Your insults were definitely against policy, and he would be entirely within his rights to block you. An apology would go a long way to peacefully putting this behind everybody for good. Thanks.--Gothemasticator 06:38, February 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I intend to do so as soon as I get the time to type my thoughts out fully. -132.183.138.24 20:13, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * If I may... Apologies actually lose their effectiveness if they are coupled with explanations/defenses/more argument. The loot discussion continues apace, and you are an active participant, so your thoughts on that issue are getting expressed, which is good. As for Kingclyde, regardless of his behavior, you insulted him, which is what the apology is for.
 * In short, a quick, "I'm sorry I called you a jackass. That was out of line. Please forgive me." would put the matter to rest.--Gothemasticator 20:17, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, if I may, this really isn't about the loot discussion at all. That was just one instance of a series of disagreements with his moderation conduct, about which i posted on your talk page a few days ago. -132.183.138.24 20:20, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do what you choose. A friendly warning, however: if your "apology" just revives an argument about his moderation practices, you will be putting yourself at risk of being blocked. You're already on thin ice. I'm looking for a way to put questions of your conduct to rest. I'm looking for a peaceful solution. In fact, your offer of an apology is the only reason I didn't step in to block you for insulting other editors, which is clearly against policy. Your delaying of said apology isn't helping matters.--Gothemasticator 20:28, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do what you must. But I meant it when I said I don't want to be a part of a wiki where certain practices are routine, so threats of blocking hold little concern to me. I understand that you want to put the issue behind us, and I do to, but a simple apology like you requested does nothing to address the conduct that I originally took issue with. In that case, what would you have me do? -132.183.138.24 20:33, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Since you asked, here's my advice:
 * Apologize simply for your insult as outlined above. Your own insults are actually an independent issue from moderation practices and should be treated as such.
 * If you have a case to make regarding moderation practices, put your case together and submit it to another administrator for consideration.
 * Doing the above two things will ensure that things progress civilly.--Gothemasticator 20:37, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I have done so. The apology was genuine, so please let me know whether or not you find it appropriate.-132.183.138.24 20:46, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you.--Gothemasticator 20:58, February 2, 2010 (UTC)