Forum:The Courier's secret nemesis?

Many players say the Courier has no story, but this is obviously from those who have not yet begun to explore. My first game was more rushed, yet the others I am playing as keepers for DLC. So I'm exploring more then I would have beyond the main story.

First, explore the conversation options with John Nash. He is the only person in the game your character probably met before Benny and the recovery in Goodsprings. He tells you a man went for the job and turned it down right before you took the job after seeing it was you who was next up for it. "Let Courier Six (aka you!) take the job". Nash thought it was odd he calls you Courier Six like it was your name.

Now go a bit west of Primm and up a coyote filled hill to see Canyon Wreckage. There you will see graffiti taunting the Courier on the border of the Divide. The person who wrote it is a total mystery. This proves the Courier does have a back round, its just not known.--Vault Master 04:28, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

No Nash said Original Six (the first guy, I'll refer to him as OS) asked if YOUR name was for real as in he couldn't believe it was you which made me think that this wasn't the first time you've crossed paths/eluded death. Second, that wreckage looked like it was a warning, but not towards you. I think that the warning was meant for OS to keep him from delivering something to the Divide. You technically aren't Courier Six. You were Courier Seven. MoonshadowDark

Hmm, interesting. Still then this other mystery Courier must have some story related to yours. Still proves that you do have a past.--Vault Master 05:50, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

@MoonshadowDark- Nash never says "original six". He says "First deadbeat we hired to do the job canceled." He also says that he canceled when he saw Six's name NEXT DOWN on the list which by proper math would make him Courier 5. If the PC was Courier 7 he'd be called Courier 7 especially when Five writes it on the Canyon Wreckage. @VaultMaster- I think what many people mean by the Courier has no story is that we know very little. The two things we know for sure as far as I know is that the Courier has what seems like a sordid past with Five and that he's been in New Reno at one point. (And if you choose to believe the Lady Killer perk, the Courier impregnated someone in Montana.) Thedarkscythe 02:43, December 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes the FIRST deadbeat. As in the ORIGINAL Courier number Six. He said no so they used the NEXT Courier on the list of Courier which was the PC who was the SEVENTH name. Here's the list: Courier 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and so on. The first guy chosen to be 6 quit, so seven bumped up and became 6. THAT'S proper math. He was supposed to transport the Platinium Chip but passed and said "let him (PC) do it". See what I'm getting at? MoonshadowDark
 * I understand what you're saying but it doesn't make sense as the original courier says "let Courier Six carry the package." Why would the "OC" refer to the next courier down the list if he was the original six? He wouldn't have immediately changed the PC's number right on the spot. He would've said "let courier seven carry the package." But true there are only six orders so it seems weird but to quote Nash "the whole thing has strange written all over it." Thedarkscythe 05:00, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

This is gonna sound ridiculous but didn't the LW head west? (Could've been fawkes) Maybe the LW just felt really weird, because supposedly according to canon the LW was some kinda saint, but the Courier is really not a good samaritan at all, I mean its kinda like the courier was meant to be neutral in the way that you were in FO3, then again alot of what I said was Bull, but truthfully it could be the burned man, its weird because when I play some people seem to recognize the courier, I think that there is a backstory to TC (The Courier) you just gotta look 4 it, maybe thats the reason that the elder didnt have you killed, maybe he recognized you....or the Courier IS the LW, the LW made alot of enemies so its possible, IDK, but people seem hesitant to kill TC or very ready to, people are VERY often to give TC a chance after desicrating some other bystanders corpse that looked at em funny, maybe people think he looks like what people heard about VD(Vault Dweller),CO(Chosen one), or the LW, its a posibilty as they all made some fearsome enemies, some got away. P.S. I really want to see lily, Fawkes, and Markus, to meet somewhere in mid america, Karmatic Choices Lily being evil (idk shes kind crazy), Markus is neutral, and Fawkes is good. God im such a fanboy, Well if anybody feels that makes any sense (any of it) feel free to add to conversation to it, try not to ppoint out the MANY inconsistencies. 71.72.184.211 22:11, December 8, 2010 (UTC)Merpmaster25

I thought it was Benny? Like in a way it makes sense, you already know that House is sending Couriers for the last leg, you know that the closest express office is in Primm so thats where someone would be likely to be hired so say that you are Benny trying to get a hold of the chip without implicating himself so he lets the next person on his list take the job and takes the Khans with him to make it look like the Khans were the ones that killed the Courier. For now it makes sense...--Mooseman780 04:00, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

To Mooseman780: No, why would it be Benny. To him your nothing more then the poor sucker who got what he wants. He pretty much thinks your dead anyway. Also the mystery courier went to the Divide according to Nash's words. This makes sense with Canyon Wreckage since it leads to the Divide. Seems like he blocked the path right after "trapping" you in Vegas. Nash also talks about you two having a history. You have no history with Benny. Nash also talks about Benny coming in Primm after you "died".--Vault Master 05:54, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

im still certain whoever it is is not in the generic fallout NV game, you'll probably meet him/her in the great divide during a future dlc, and of course some people talk to you like they know you, word of what your char has done spreads rapidly, this is apart of the faction system aswell. Toolazytomakeaaccount 09:30, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

!*POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT*! THE COURIER IS THE BURNED MAN when u beat the game it says he cheated death before and he did it again refering to the fact that he was pushed off the grand canyon. The OC recognized him as the burned man so he said,"IS HIS NAME FOR REAL," watch DLC the burned man will show. The OC could be someone that help get him "killed" so hes PIS*ED that he is alive. People you have to agree. That could also be the reason why everyone seems to trust you because you got burned and they know it however when ever someone talks about u "cheating death" the player thinks its from the begining but how do the know what had happened from up in a cemetary at night they are talking about u getting burned and killed. Dead money u must find out who is "deadbeat" and burned man DLC u find out its you. December 9,2010 10:30 (UTC)
 * Okay I'm gonna say this ONCE: THE. EFFIN'. COURIER. IS. NOT. THE. EFFIN'. BURNED. MAN. The Burned man is spending his exile in The Divide ruling over the C.H.U.D.S and will be in The Divide during his DLC. When the end said He cheated death before, it referenced the gunshot to the head. When it said he did it again, it referenced that he won his fight against the Legate or NCR head as they are thought to be pretty hard to kill. Dead Money is just about finding a treasure and ONLY the treasure. No one reveals huge plot twists with the first DLC. Did we find out who the Shadow Broker was in Kasumi's Stolen Memory? No. Did we find out the Lone Wander survived the events of Project Purity in The Pitt? No. So why the hell would Bethesda and Obsideon do it now? The ONLY way the Burned Man could be The Courier is if YOU roleplay as him and EVEN then, when the Divide DLC comes out, those stories will end because, again, THE BURNED MAN IS IN THE DIVIDE AND IS NOT THE COURIER. I am sick of these half baked theories. My Courier is a simple man from New Puerto Rico. What kind of roleplaying game forces you to be a character? The Courier is whoever YOU want him to be. Forcing a backstory is not a feature in ANY rpg I've ever seen. That's like if I play in WoW and say, "I am a Nightelf named Galaye. I am a loner, no family and I eat chicken everyday for lunch." and then the game says "You are a Nightelf named Flynn and you have a wife and kids and you only eat vegtables that begin with the letter B". See how stupid that is? Hell he even disproves it by saying he went to Montana 17 years ago. Joshua Graham was a Tribal in Colorado. Why would a TRIBAL go to MONTANA? He's not the Chosen One looking for a GECK. He was a Tribal man until Caesar showed up and EVEN then it took like 20 years to control all of the Legion territory and he was training to be a Legate during the entire time. And How does everyone know you got shot? Ever turn on Mr. New Vegas? He effin' tells  EVERYONE that a courier was shot in the head out in Goodsprings and the Doc patched you up. Do you get it now? MoonshadowDark
 * Haha ^ Nerd Rage.
 * Bite me. MoonshadowDark

i dont see the point of role playing in these games, probably because my imagination is limited in that area "my char shoots people...and if a good guy has something he wants, he sneak attacks them and takes it..i just kill things." but in the interest of raging you more, what if the courier is the burned man....s secret TWIN?!?! *omgnfw!* but seriously, i doubt well learn the couriers story, not until you go to the great divide, and even then it wont rival the awesome story of fallout 3, lol Toolazytomakeaaccount 20:42, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

The Courier can't be the Burned Man (who is deifnatly named although I can't remember the name right now and is reffered to as being male) becuase the courier isn't a man in everyone's game. Therefore, I think the courier's past will be dealt with in one of the DLCs but Obsidian have to make so that the courier could be male or female.

Joshua Graham i believe was the name.

It's up to 'you why the 5/7/first six didn't like you. It's all part of the roleplay. As for TC, it's again up to you. My C hasn't got a story yet, because I've played as non-cs. So far I've been my The Exterminator, Joe 'The Lawbringer' Stone, Sly (CL sniper) and right now I'm 'Lucky' Eric, an ex-NCR sniper who cam across from far off to help MW NCR. He was one of the best snipers the NCR have ever had, until some gansters (unsure who yet) attacked him, stripped him, trapped him in a old car and pushed him in to lake Las Vegas. He almost drowned, but the rusted doors gave way and he floted out, however, being dead did it's damage. He'd lost much of his memory and his perception fell greatly (to one). None of MW NCR have ever seen his face, so they had no idea who he was. 20:59, December 9, 2010 (UTC)