Talk:Riot shotgun/Archive 1

Where can i find this gun?
the tops casino isn't worth destroying for one so where is a vendor?

The only one I've found so far was in Vault 34's armoury, it was in shit condition. If you're up for fighting through about fifty ghouls, getting extremely irradiated and then selling a limb in order to get it repaired, go get that one lol.

Seriously though there's a lot of other good stuff in that armoury besides the shotgun, so it balances out.--94.171.184.82 23:57, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

This is why you stock up on weapon repair kits

I already saw one for sale in Hidden Valley (BoS bunker). --85.3.54.248 20:37, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Gun Runners sell them in full condition. DMZ Sniper 10:44, November 14, 2010 (UTC) There is a good condition one held by a thug in the Gomorrah. Using a silenced weapon while hidden, kill the thug guarding the door next to the bar in the lounge and take his key (and anything else you like), then open the door he was guarding while no one is looking. Go upstairs and through a door to the left as you overlook the lounge. Using a Stealth Boy is suggested at this point. Sneak along the wall of the balcony overlooking the gambling floor, making sure the cage dancer doesn't see you (she is naturally hostile and will call the guards if she sees you). Open the door across from her cage, go in, close it, then kill the thug down the stairs quickly with a silenced weapon (if he fires, the guards will come running). Take the Riot Shotgun he has. Going out the door at the bottom of the stairs will cause a character vital to the How Little We Know quest to become hostile, so i suggest sneaking out the way you came and avoiding the cage dancer again. Make sure you holster/put away your weapon, as the guards will attack you if they see you have it drawn. Leave the casino and you're home free. 75.73.95.135 04:17, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

South-African shotgun.
This looks a bit like that south-African shotgun. I forget what it's called. 02:42, October 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * You're probably thinking of the Armsel Striker here. However, the only similarities are the drum magazines, the pistol grips and the fact that they're shotguns. Other than that, they look completely different from each other. --85.3.57.103 08:39, October 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * I figure it's probably what they based this gun on, though. It has a 12-round drum like the Striker/Protecta, and although it lacks the front grip, it's probably the closest analogue physically as far as real weapons go. Wallach 03:42, November 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * Is it just me or the hand grip doesn't make any sense? I don't understand weapons that well, but since the shotgun is (semi-?)automatic and it loads and ejects the empty shell automatically when the trigger is pressed, it renders the hand-grip useless function-wise (maybe it's only for the looks?).--Jonathan Strange 11:08, November 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * The handgrip, ironically, is for holding the weapon. The riot shotgun is obviously quite large and too heavy to hold with just one hand, and if the handgrip was not present you'd have to hold it midway up the barrel on just the pure iron. Which can get extremely hot, you'd likely burn your hand severely and it'd make using the shotgun functionally for an extended amount of time impossible. Aditionally all other semi-automatic or automatic weapons I know of also have a way to manually load or eject a shell/bullet/slug. This is obviously to load the weapon the first time you put in a new magazine, or if the weapon jams (for instance if a slug gets caught in the ejection port and you're unable to chamber a new round), this so you can manually force an eject with the pump-action/bolt/etc or remove the stuck item and manually rechamber a round afterwards. Just because it is semi-automatic doesn't mean you never have to manually "pump", and vice versa, just because it is pump action doesn't mean you have to "pump" every single slug. If that makes sense to you :)85.167.61.147 08:41, November 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, that makes perfect sense. The shotgun mentioned above doesn't have the hand grip (it has a different one, which AFAIK can not be used to manually load/eject the shell). If I understood it correctly, the lever on the back of the gun (receiver?) serves that purpose.--Jonathan Strange 12:52, November 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * I believe that is correct, though I want to say that the most recent version of the Striker/Protecta actually moved that lever on the right side of the barrel, similar to the gun in-game. Wallach 21:29, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

to me it looks like a hawk semi auto wit a wooden grip and a sidewinder drum used on mossbergs

best shotgun?
i haven't used the unique dlc shotgun or many other's but this shotty just seems to take the show, 12 rapid shots high dps, equal/greater damage than most others I've seen, and not the worst spread i have seen, for enclosed spaces all i need to do is whip this thing out and i can mow down mobs in seconds, used it to take out caesar's camp just as easily. Toolazytomakeaaccount 09:16, October 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I like it, but I do miss the Combat Shotgun from Fallout 3, because it was an early game weapon and didn't degrade quick. Also...the Terrible Shotgun killed near everything in one shot.  Ah how I miss it. 70.179.84.21 14:22, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

i liked how in fallout 3 the weapon selection may have been limited, but every weapon had some unique variant, pretty much anyway, and it saddens me that the only unique variant of a shotgun, not counting the pre ordered one, that is actually weaker than riot shotgun anyway, is just a sawed off shotty, a unique riot shotgun, or hunters shotgun, or hell even lever action, would have been nice, i kinda miss my old terrible shotgun, lol Toolazytomakeaaccount 19:01, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

There is a unique Hunting Shotgun. I do wish there was a unique Lever-action Shotgun though as that is just a fun gun to use. --Wallach 17:01, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

wow i never looked that up..thanks, lol now i have an even better reason to try to kill...the...ultimate deathclaw....ehhhhh....yeah ill hold off on that quest for now...lol Toolazytomakeaaccount 17:04, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

I think the fully modded Hunting shotgun with slugs and all shotgun perks is a better gun than both Dinner Bell AND Riot Shotgun--Ze5ro1 16:56, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

I used to love the Hunting Shotgun because of it's relatively low spread (fun with slugs). I used that for a good long time too. But now that I have tried this one I'm never going back... This gun is just so brutal. I think it may even be the best guns gun for dismembering limbs. (It usually makes them explode though). (BlitzKrieg-BoB 00:00, February 17, 2011 (UTC))

Yeah, I like the riot shotgun if i dont need accuracy but i find the hunting shotgun to be more useful when traveling but that's just preference --Ze5ro1 04:46, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Cass Eureka
Ive NEVER EVER owned this weapon in my playthrough. But when I checked Cass' inventory during "Eureka!", she had 3 of these unequipped. Anyone else confirm or figured out wtf is going on? 70.79.230.199 05:00, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

she probably picked them up since she uses shotgun's, also probably why you never had one. Toolazytomakeaaccount 05:23, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

Does that mean I should give Cass Heavy armor since she uses shotguns? 70.79.230.199 11:22, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

not necessarily, i usually give my companion a set of power armor, keeps them safe mostly..really you don't need to give them much if they have the ammo for a gun and see it and you don't loot it they will occasionally take it. Toolazytomakeaaccount 12:29, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

weapon dps is wrong
It is a LOT higher than 268, stop posting wrong dps taken from GECK


 * I'll bite. Let's presume the DPS value from GECK is wrong, where do I find the correct DPS then? In-game? Where it's affected by X possible things we don't even know that affect it? You tell me, I'm listening.--Jonathan Strange 09:38, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

dps from 100% weapon skill and no perks 137.186.66.8

I agree. If I did the math correctly, the DPS for this weapon can potentially become much higher. Let's say that the enemy has 10DT but that you also have the Shotgun Surgeon perk. Shotgun Surgeon basically adds the -10DT spec to whatever ammo you are using, making it armor piercing. In this case the enemys DT is lowered to 0. Shotguns have a very high DPS potential because each pellet in the buckshot has the ability to cause critical damage. So, we take a closer look at the specs:

Riot Shotgun

Base Damage 9.6 x 7 = 67 + 10 x 7 critical damage = 67-137 max damage

4 attacks per second = 268-548 DPS

Magnum Buckshot = 11 x 7 = 77 + 10 x 7 critical damage = 77-147 max damage

4 attacks per second = 308-588 DPS

These numbers do not factor in sneak attack criticals (2x damage) or the Better Criticals perk (2x damage).

The high DPS holds true as long as the enemy has a fairly low DT. There is no AP ammo for these weapons so the Shotgun Surgeon perk is needed in order for these weapons to become truly effective. When you are faced with heavily armored opponents, you might be better off with a weapon that has a higher base damage, like the Anti-Materiel Rifle.
 * I can confirm that the weapon DPS is not wrong, I have 7 Agility, Fast Shot, Shotgun Surgeon, but guess what...my strength is 6 (the required is 7). When browsing in my inventory it lists 268 DPS. Brfritos 07:41, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Behind the Scenes
I've pulled that section as it became increasingly stupid as random folks edited it. It really does not belong on this page anyway because without input from the developer we can't say for certain which particular weaponry was used for inspiration. I don't believe the wiki is a good place for random assumptions or even well-meant intuition. Wallach 01:22, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Then remove just the offending section and not the rest of the fricken page! I hate how so many people remove all of the navboxes and categories! Nitty Tok. 01:37, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Derp! Total accident. Wallach 01:51, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Insert non-formatted text here == Boone Render Unto Caeser ==

Before I went onto the boat to get to the fort, I told Boone to wait just outside Cottonwood Cove away from the guards. Then, after I talked to Caeser, I came back to Boone to find that he was really pissed off that I helped the legion, so he left. I killed him and searched his inventory to find that he had a Riot Shotgun and a lot of other weapons I didn't give to him. Does anyone know what happened?

Were any guards dead? Boone may have gone on a rampage and taken some guns off the dead guards. Sign your posts please.--Burnt Toast 11:24, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

without drum
Am i the only one who wants this without the drum mag on it? I would love that-I play on xbox so I can't mod though..--Icommandoxx 23:26, March 6, 2011 (UTC)icommandoxx

No drum = no riot shotgun. --Bottletopman 07:02, March 30, 2011 (UTC)