User talk:Porter21/Archive 8

For when you come back
I have just added PRO ITEM.MSG (Fallout 2) and was wondering if a bot is able to take care of the links simliar to PRO ITEM.MSG (Fallout). User Avatar talk.png 21:06, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Another one for the bot: can it fix those double redirects for a blog post? JspoelJspoel Vault Boy.png 12:55, May 13, 2011 (UTC). And welcome back! Hope you had a good away time.
 * The games template icon (above infoboxes) is displayed twice. Can you fix it?
 * Games template icon is ok now! And I just had to wait 15 seconds or so to get the double redirects list...
 * Lol, they are jumping all over you now that you are back. But in regards to PRO ITEM.MSG (Fallout 2), some of the items where re-written or spelling corrected etc. However since I left you that message (which I had forgotten about) I have figured out how to use regular expressions for Open Office, so just did a simple search and replace with 0}{}{([A-Za-z0-9,'&\.\-\?\ \(\)"]{1,})} to 0}{}{ $1 } to add all the links in for item names, bit of manual checking afterwards and it is all good now. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 20:02, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Game icons removed
Please read; http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Dopp/Upcoming_change:_Removing_the_divider_between_the_Edit_button_and_Content Just in case you missed it during your away time. -- Light Daxter -  Talk  12:37, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back!
Nice to see you arond again, you were greatly missed :). As you've probably noticed, I reverted to a much older version of the game icons because I wasn't able to adapt your latest version to the Wikia changes properly. Good to see that you've fixed it! Ausir(talk) 01:34, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Amazingly, most of the other stuff has been working fine even when you weren't around. ;) Ausir(talk) 07:26, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

FO3 & FNV holotape & note category tags
Hello! Both Avatar & Jspoelstra had told me to wait until you're back to ask this, since you had recently redone those sections. My remaining question is about the category tags at the bottom of the pages for holotapes & notes that are both a misc item & one or more notes. Personally, I think that those should have the misc item category link for their respective game in addition to the holotape & note category link, but I'll defer to your decision on the matter. Thanks, Canti-sama(talk) 15:53, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, Thanks for your reply. I'll leave them as is, then. Canti-sama(talk) 18:32, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

FNV page creation templates
Just a FYI, I have replaced all the with Pagename nd ready for Honest Hearts, kinda fed up still seeing xxxx (Fallout: New Vegas) in the infobox where people haven't replaced it with the name, this should hopefully prevent it. User Avatar talk.png 22:36, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Will they (bethesda/obsidian) refund my disc if it breaks?
I figured since you're an admin, you might be able to answer this: On the X360 disc for New Vegas, a small crack will eventually develop on the disc, going from the center to about 1/8" outward, and the console won't read the disc. The first time it happened (with a pre-ordered copy), it appeared about two months, and later it happened in just over a week. The disc was played on the old and the new versions of the X360. I've gone through two copies of the game because of this, and because I lost the f#%$ing receipts, I wasn't able to return them. I was thinking of writing Bethesda and/or Obsidian, but I have no proof to show that the discs were broken (as I'd thrown them out). I am about to buy a third copy, and will keep the receipt in a safe place this time, and will take photos of the disc when i first get it and if/when the crack begins to appear. If I email/write them, and send them proof, might they (if the store can't/won't) refund my purchase? 74.192.58.206 05:33, May 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * No idea, I'm afraid. You could try asking at Bethesda's official forums, that's probably your best chance to get an answer. -- Porter21 (talk) 07:28, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back!
Why are you away a month? --Gauzzy 07:46, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Quests
Say Porter, I was thinking... Quests are divided into main, side and unmarked quests and as such they are defined in the infobox (type). But only the main- and unmarked quests result in Fallout: New Vegas main quest, resp. Fallout: New Vegas unmarked quest in the infobox title. Coding a quest as side just results in Fallout: New Vegas quest. Can you change it, so that it results in Fallout: New Vegas side quest? Jspoel 12:25, May 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nice, looks better now. Thanks.

Welcome bot
It always creates user pages when achievements are activated. Ausir(talk) 08:10, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Incomplete
Sounds good. Ausir(talk) 08:35, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

massive terrible spam
offically requesting admin backup. Someone posted a very very disgusting image in the comments of the latest news post. They also hit my talk page. BILLYOCEAN 09:45, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've blocked three accounts of this vandal already globally (he also vandalized the Elder Scrolls wiki). If you spot him again and I'm not around, please let me know, so I can phalanx him. Ausir(talk) 10:12, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Not sure who to let know
We now have 3 seperate pages for what was known as Graham's handgun A Light in the Darkness, and two A Light Shining in Darkness and A Light Shining In Darkness (hopefully those links work right, but in the search bar the upper title leads to a different page from the lower title in the autocomplete box). Great Mara 21:13, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Weapons infobox
Seems to be broken - Cleaver (Fallout: New Vegas) User Avatar talk.png 02:36, May 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol, just noticed it didn't have the attack/shots time, guess my eyes where drown to the big red writing when it is there, instead of the detail. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 21:04, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Achievement names
Why change these? I liked the medical ones (to make them different from the technical ones for the main edit track). And I don't think it's a good idea to change achievement names without changing the images at the same time. Now we have techncial achievement names with medical images. Ausir(talk) 11:14, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * As for "exploration" perks, how about these? Scout, Explorer, Outdoorsman, Survivalist, Pathfinder, Ranger, Survival Guru? This would be more in line with the naming of category achievements on Wikia in general. And then maybe change the ones I made for the general edit track (which I admit aren't that great) to the technical ones you made for categories? Ausir(talk) 11:35, May 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd prefer to keep the Karma names for the Wiki Love track. Ausir(talk) 17:03, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Back to the old tactic of asking Porter to do something! :D
Would you mind extending the amount of perks listable in Template:Infobox weapon gamebryo to something more than 5? The combat knife has 7 perks at this point. :/ Nitty Tok. 12:36, May 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Here's hoping 9 is enough for later. Thanks! :P Nitty Tok. 02:48, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Honest Honest
I was already thinking, hey, where did that one go? Typo. Jspoel 13:01, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Moving Pages
Hey Porter, you may or may not remember me, but since I was playing Honest Hearts, I figured I'd stop by and help out. However I just noticed I created a location page North Folk Campground, the other day, and it should be North Fork Campground. I don't know how things like this are handled here, so some advice would be great. Thanks. Lancer1289 16:58, May 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Lancer1289 17:12, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Help with Archive Tool
Hiya :) As you're the listed adapter of Archive Tool for oasis, I thought I'd hit you up with a question.  I'm trying to implement Archive Tool at wikia:tardis:MediaWiki:common.js, but am having some difficulty.  Now, I know I've got problems with the templates it calls not actually existing yet on our wiki.  That's an easy fix.  What I don't understand is why I don't even see the archive button, in either Firefox or Safari for Mac.  I've got a Windows user telling me they see it fine.  I've tried importing the script from dev,  and that didn't work for me/Macs but it did work for Windows.  Thinking that having the entire script on our wiki might change things, I grabbed the code from this wiki and plugged it in.  Still no joy.  Even here, on this wiki, I don't see anything which remotely resembles the screenshot present at dev.wikia.com.  I've tried to archive talk pages here at Fallout, but I see no trace of anything related to archiving. So is it Windows only? That doesn't even make sense wtih js, does it? Wikia can't be that bleeding edge with its java, and this tool has been around for a couple of years now. Have you disabled it here with some other code I'm not seeing? Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.

Update: So I've looked now at my site and yours in Monobook. And there is an archive tab in that skin. Have recent changes to Oasis maybe made this tool go wobbly since you adapted it to the original version of Oasis? CzechOut/talk 01:16:31 Sat '''21 May 2011


 * Thanks for your speedy reply. I should let you know, by way of problem report, that ArchiveTool doesn't "work fine" on your wiki.  At least not for me.  In neither Version 4.1.3 (4533.19.4) of Safari for Mac, nor en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110420 Firefox/3.6.17 for Mac does the archive button appear (well, you know what I more precisely mean there — "the archive option fails to appear under the edit button dropdown")  on talk pages on this wiki — let alone tardis.  Obviously, I can't troubleshoot the problem on this wiki, but on my wiki, I've taken the following steps to troubleshoot.


 * I cut and paste the code from dev into tardis' wikia.js and performed hard cache dumps
 * I then confirmed that it was working in monobook, in both Firefox and Safari
 * I then returned to Oasis and confirmed in both browsers, after more (really unnecessary) cache dumps that the edit button had no archive button. I made sure to stay on the same talk page that had previously displayed the archive button in monobook.
 * I then eliminated, line-by-line, other imported scripts housed in common.js, on the off-chance there was some kind of conflict. No conflict was discovered.
 * I then confirmed that wikia.js was explicitly forcing an import of common.js
 * I then put the whole code, from dev, into wikia.js, to see if that more direct call by the wikia skin made any difference. It didn't.
 * Finally, I remarked out every line of code in all active js locations except for archive tool in wikia.js. Still no archive button in Oasis, and of course no button in monobook, since the code was only in wikia.js.


 * Between each individual step, I was of course performing a hard cache refresh — twice — so that I made sure I knew I was seeing the changed state.


 * I have come up with a potential lead on the problem, however. Because I can't edit MediaWiki:Common.js on this site, I can't access the message that tells you what templates are active on the page being edited.  On my site, though — now in both wikia.js and common.js — this code is producing redlinked templates.  I get this message:
 * Templates used on the current version of this page:
 * Template:'+config.archiveListTemplate+' (edit)
 * Template:'+config.archivePageTemplate+' (edit)


 * Does that happen on your site? I'm by no means a js expert, but I've played around with it enough to know I don't normally see redlinked templates on js pages.  Also, is there any way my inability to see evidence of this archive tool in Oasis could be browser or OS related?  That is, do you have known Mac users on this site able to use the archive tool?  I should point out that when i said I had a user who could see the archive tool, I don't know what skin he could see it in.  For all I know, he's a die hard that prefers to edit in monobook.


 * Any clues at all to what might be going on, just in the context of your own site. I think if you could diagnose the problem here, it would obviously solve my implementation too. CzechOut/'talk - 12:42, May 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for continuing to work with me on this problem. Here are the results of my examination of the Firefox error console (and Firebug's error page, which I imagine to be pretty much the very same thing).  My test page was user talk:GhostAvatar/Archive 5,  I confirmed it was showing me the ArchiveTool in monobook, but not in oasis.
 * I have one actual error (red). It says, "error: d is undefined" then gives this source file: http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__am/37157/group//oasis_shared_js.    Firebug, though not the Firefox error console, seems to more specifically define the problem as being somewhere in "line 25", which is the long code dump after the remarks surrounding the "Sizzle CSS Selector Engine".  Dunno if that could possibly have anything to do with ArchiveTool, or interactions with ArchiveTool.   But you said report full-on red errors, so there we go.
 * The page gives dozens of warnings (yellow), including one that significantly mentioned ArchiveToolt:
 * Reference to undefined property window ArchiveToolConfig. When I clicked on the link, it opened a page dense with code, but automatically highlighted this area:  function archiveTool{var config=window.ArchiveToolConfig=$.extend(true,{archiveListTemplate:'Archives',archivePageTemplate:'Archivepage',archiveSubpage:'Archive',userLang:false,en:{buttonArchiveTool:"Archive",buttonArchiveToolTooltip:"Archive this page",buttonSelectAll:"Select all",buttonDeselectAll:"Deselect all",buttonSaveArchive:"Save archive",buttonAbort:"Abort",labelLines:"Lines",labelSections:"Sections",summaryArchiveFrom:"ArchiveTool: Archiving from",summaryArchiveTo:"ArchiveTool: Archiving to"}},window.ArchiveToolConfig||{});function msg(name){if(config.userLang&&wgUserLanguage in config&&name in config[wgUserLanguage])


 * I don't know if any of that helps us diagnose the problem at all. But that's what I found, at any rate.  CzechOut/talk 20:53, May 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Again using User talk:GhostAvatar/Archive 5 as the test page, I can report that you have eliminated the error and the two warnings which explicitly named artchiveTool. However, I still have no joy in Wikia in either Safari or Firefox.  And here's the weird thing.  Your change took away the archive button from Firefox Monobook.  So now only Safari Monobook can see the archive button.  On balance, your change is a definite loss of error, but also of amenity.  09:28:03 Sun 22 May 2011


 * See, I saw the lines you had changed and thought to myself, why is he messin' with ArchiveEdit, but I figured you knew what you were doin'. Anyway, your most recent changes have resulted only in the return of the archive button to Firefox Monobook.  Which is good, of course, but Oasis ain't budgin'.


 * Of course, we're primarily looking for errors when in Oasis. But I did want to tell you about something that's consistently happening in Monobook that I've noticed.  I don't get any error when just viewing a talk page in Monobook.   But if I edit, and when I change something at Special:Preferences — again only in Firefox Monobook — I get this message: [JavaScript Error: "[Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE) [nsIMIMEService.getTypeFromURI]" nsresult: "0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE)" location: "JS frame :: file:///Users/workin4free2/Library/Application%20Support/Firefox/Profiles/sx17uisz.default/extensions/%7Be0204bd5-9d31-402b-a99d-a6aa8ffebdca%7D/components/external-app-blocker.js :: anonymous :: line 126" data: no]" {file: "file:///Users/workin4free2/Library/Application%20Support/Firefox/Profiles/sx17uisz.default/extensions/%7Be0204bd5-9d31-402b-a99d-a6aa8ffebdca%7D/components/external-app-blocker.js" line: 126}] I can't share the url with you, cause it's pointing back into my system.  But when I click on it, I get the java the message implies: a thing called External App Handler, which purports to handle "displaying confirmation dialogs for external apps and protocols due to Firefox Bug".  It then gives the url https://bugzilla.mozilla..org/show_bug.cgi?id=440892 .    Only a tiny bit of the code on this page is highlighted as being in error: newObj[method] = eval(fun);


 * I'm not quite sure why I'm including this, because it's not in Oasis. But it's so consistent, I thought maybe it might spark something in your mind. User talk:CzechOut 13:49, May 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * I really can't thank you enough for trying to help me track this down. I think I've found the kernel of the problem.  Another Mac user has come forward and said they can see the button in Firefox 4, runing on MAc OS X 10.6.  I'm only at 10.4 and my last possible Java update was from late 2009.  So clearly he's running something more modern than me, and that's probably where our difficulties arise.  The question I'd have is that other code, like wikia:dev:EditIntroButton is using a form of java syntax that works well enough for me.  Is there some way to tweak the syntax of ArchiveTool's reference to the oasis skin so that it's usable by those of us with a slightly older version of Java?  (You might just say, "Download the latest Java, but with Macs that means getting the latest version of the OS, which isn't physically possible for me to run, because I don't have an Intel-based Mac.  I'd have to buy a new Mac to use the latest Java — a position that a lot of Mac users are in.)


 * So, the nub of it is this: clearly it's possible for me to see alterations to the Edit drop down. We've got at least two or three java-implemented addiitions already in our drop down.  I notice too that EditIntroButton uses a different syntax when referencing how it's to put itself into the edit menu.  So is there a way to maybe write something in a different way that's only implemented when a specific version of the OS X software is detected?    There's just something in the following that is just slightly too modern.  Does any of this ring a bell in your mind as syntax that was "new" at the time you did the oasis conversion?   case 'oasis':

case 'wikia': pageBody = '#WikiaArticle'; pageControls = (wgNamespaceNumber == 3) ? '#WikiaUserPagesHeader > ul.wikia-menu-button > li > ul' : '#WikiaPageHeader > ul.wikia-menu-button > li > ul'; pageControlHTML = '' + msg('buttonArchiveTool') + ''; buttonPrimary = ['', '']; buttonSecondary = ['', '']; break;
 * --user talk:CzechOut 17:33, May 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, thanks for looking back into it. That's a very intriguing observation.  I'd assume that means that I could at least broach the subject directly to Wikia support with a Special:Contact report, since it may lead directly too the wikia skin.  14:51:50 Mon 23 May 2011
 * No, wait, that doesn't make sense. The change you made yesterday  — albeit initially to the wrong code, but nevertheless one that appeared on my test page (because user talk:GhostAvatar/Archive 5 uses EditArchive as well as ArchiveTool) — made that error go away.  I no longer get it my test page on this site.   15:17:36 Mon 23 May 2011
 * Hmmm, I think I'm still confused. By "that error", above, I do mean the red error "d is undefined".  But remember how yesterday you went and changed some things?  After those changes — that is, my current experience of fallout.wikia — is that I no longer have a "d is undefined" error.  So what does that support or contradict your theory that it's something to do with the default wikia skin js?  And, speaking of that, is there some place I can go to look at that js?   18:07:12 Mon 23 May 2011
 * Let me again say thanks for your continued efforts. I know precisely how difficult it is to troubleshoot something in an operating system you don't use.  I got exactly one message related to ArchiveTool: ArchiveTool:Initializing There are also some new things popping up in the error console only (not Firebug).  Under the Messages tab there are now six instances of the same message: Torbutton NOTE: No browser found: [scrubbed] Other than telling you that these messages appear in blue and give timestamps that are the same down to the hundredth of a second, I got nothin' else out of them, not even a link.   21:05:51 Mon 23 May 2011

ArchiveTool: detailed debugging
Okay, here are the new messages I'm getting: ArchiveTool: Initializing ArchiveTool: Passed config ArchiveTool: Passsed msg ArchiveTool: Passed skin check 14:06:30 Tue 24 May 2011
 * Nope, still getting the four messages above, even after performing two consecutive cache clears, just to make sure I was looking at current state of fallout.wikia. 14:33:45 Tue 24 May 2011
 * Yes, there's now a change. In addition to the above four, I now have ArchiveTool: wgNamespaceNumber = 3, wgAction = edit  <span style="">14:52:08 Tue 24 May 2011
 * Yep, I'm getting the above additional message just from page view. My address bar currently reads: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:GhostAvatar/Archive_5  <span style="">15:07:09 Tue 24 May 2011
 * You're right. Here's the message sequence from Monobook:

ArchiveTool: Initializing ArchiveTool: Passed config ArchiveTool: Passsed msg ArchiveTool: Passed skin check ArchiveTool: wgNamespaceNumber = 3, wgAction = view ArchiveTool: Passed security check ArchiveTool: Passed var declaration ArchiveTool: Detected skin "monobook" ArchiveTool: Running main function ArchiveTool: Inserting button ArchiveTool: Finished loading
 * So now that we've found the glitch, what do we do? I assume report it to Wikia?   <span style="">15:23:02 Tue 24 May 2011
 * Okay. I've gotta say, though, that I'm not quite understanding the error enough to report it in a way that will pinpoint the problem to someone more conversant in java.  Would it be clear enough to people if I just pointed to our two talk pages here?   <span style="">15:35:58 Tue 24 May 2011
 * Alright, I reported to Wikia, and largely just pointed them back to our two talk pages here. Hopefully that's enough for them to parse the problem.  Thank you so much for all your hard work on this issue.   <span style="">15:58:49 Tue 24 May 2011

Response from Wikia
I thought you might be interested in the response from Wikia. You'll be happy to know it confirms your diagnosis, and at the same time doesn't lay blame at my somewhat older system, either. Here's what user:Uberfuzzy has to say :


 * Hello.


 * This actually isnt a Mac thing, nor a browser thing. Its a bug somewhere in MediaWiki.


 * For some yet unknown reason, there are a batch of users, that on ALL page views, the javascript variable wgAction is always set to 'edit', and never correctly matches the mode, such as 'view' or a few other things.


 * Normally, this doesnt affect wiki viewing, or editing, and only comes up if users are writing custom JS to do things based on that value (such as detecting view vs edit mode).


 * I've confirmed your account is doing this, and added the report to the ongoing ticket on the matter and bumped it up for re-investigation.

So, good on ya for great diagnostic skills. :) I'll keep you apprised when the Wikia team come up with a solution.  In the meantime, I was hoping you could help me understand what wgAction actually does, and whether there might be a way around it.  Is it what's responsible for putting the archive button under the edit drop down?  If so, couldn't we just write a little bit of java for me to use at the individual account level that would, I dunno, make a free-standing button outside of the edit menu?   <span style="">22:53:11 Tue 24 May 2011
 * Hmmm, might be a idea for Goth to also report this and confirm if there account has the same bug, since they have the same issue on a windows platform. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 23:06, May 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Heh, the collision thing was precisely what I was working on when you sent your message. And your solution was pretty much what I was considering doing.  Scary.  :)  Oh, and "archive" has appeared in my dropdown, at least in Safari, thanks to your li'l workaround.  But I haven't tested it yet, because it's in the "collided" area.  Still, thanks so much for that :)  I'll report back once I've fixed the collision to let you know if it fully works.  That way, you can include the workaround in the dev write-up.


 * To keep you abreast of latest conversations with Uberfuzzy, I wrote him back, giving him details of my system, just in case it helped define the "batch of users" he referred to in his original reposnse. He came back with:


 * This has nothing to do with anything your browser or computer.


 * I confirmed the same happening while accessing your account, on windows 7 using GoogleChrome.


 * It is happening on the server, in the code, before anything is even sent to your browser.


 * In my latest response, I asked him your question about why it's only appearing in Oasis if it's a MediaWiki error, but have so far got no response on that front. And, as to AvatarGhost's suggestion, I definitely think this other user should report to Wikia support cause it might bump the problem further up the queue.   <span style="">15:19:18 Wed 25 May 2011
 * Hmmm, well I promised to report back in after I introduced your collision fixer. Weird thing is, I'm not seeing "archive" under my edit menu anymore.  Turning off the fix doesn't make it reappear.  So who knows what's going on.  It was probably a little too soon to hope that those changes would have gotten filtered down to the individual wikia level, anyway.  I'll check on it tomorrow and see where we are.  I should be seeing changes to global.js by then, don't you think?   <span style="">16:32:42 Wed 25 May 2011

fanmadefallout.com
There is a backup of the items table here - Dude101 11:07, May 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * I dropped pjnt a message. He may still have access to the critter tables - Dude101 11:45, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

No news on a backup, but through the magic of google cache, I have started to remake the tables here. They are missing images, but all the numbers are still accessible. It's gonna take me a while to finish it - Dude101


 * I bit off more than I can chew. There are 482 tables to be made and it would take me a very long time alone.  Some of the data is missing from google as well :(  Maybe we can get some help involved? - Dude101

Cool! awesome work - Dude101

Navbox
Hi, I just thought I should ask if I am allowed to create navboxes, I have some experience with them, and wondered if one for say Overseers would be prudent. The Emporer 00:37, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Achievement
My list says I have two good natured achievements. I just wondered about it, since it doesn't feel right to have points from two of the same. The Emporer 00:41, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Talk Page Problems
I can't say anything on talk pages, as the "add a topic" box isn't there. Is there another way to do it? A user has accused me of something, but I can't ask him to elaborate due to this. The Emporer 18:44, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

I used the link you have on your user page. He doesn't have somthing like this, and I just wondered if there was a fix for it. The Emporer 18:14, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Honest Hearts location cell IDs
Porter, can you add the cell ID's of Honest Hearts locations to the New Vegas locations cell ID page? I've already done the interiors. Tried exteriors too but no luck. With Dead Money you gave me some tips, but I couldn't find interior and exterior cell data. Jspoel 20:38, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Allright, thanks.

antagonists navbox
Hello, Porter. I just wanted to let you know that I edited the navbox "Antagonists" because I wanted to include Miles Reese. Van Buren is included, so I thought BOS 2 should be included as well. Just sending you this message to make sure I did everyone the correct way. Thanks. Take drugs! Kill a bear! 23:22, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, cool. Thanks for taking a look at it for me. BILLYOCEAN 17:28, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Nature Category in Creatures Page
Hello Porter21. Im typing this message to ask you for permission to do something. That something is to add somethng to each creature page. I want to add a "Nature" (can be changed to your liking) category. This category will list all of the things the creature does (actions like: if it smells, growls before attacking, etc.). For instance: A Feral ghoul (Fallout 3) will make a hissing sound before engaging in hand-to-hand combat. Thank you for your time. FalloutFreak9090 21:17, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't really think this is necessary at all to be absolutely honest :/ --233345-cartman1_tiny.gif Avatar talk.png 20:06, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

FO3 NPC project
Hello Porter,

Maybe you have forgotten about the Fallout 3 NPC overhaul project and maybe you haven't. I have recently been pouring lots of work into the project and have finished essentially the majority of all unfinished sections, including all the add-ons. However, there is one thing that I cannot do and that is give peer reviews. As the new project leader, I'm asking to to take some time out of your online schedule and do some reviews on the project, if you'd be so kind. Who knows? If I get enough people doing peer reviews, we could finally finish this project. We didn't finish it before Fallout: New Vegas came out like we hoped, but at least we can finish it. Best regards, Kastera (talk) 22:42, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Categories
I see you made some changes to the FNV mentioned only location related categories. I was working on it too, on an old PC which didn't allow me to delete :/

I also have an idea about a new category: race: Fallout: New Vegas Caucasian characters, Fallout: New Vegas African American character and Fallout: New Vegas Hispanic characters. Also for FO3. What do you say? Jspoel 10:34, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * That will take me a while, I have no savegames of PL.

Welcoming greet
Thanks for your greetings!!! abcd911

Achievement boosting
I recently discovered that user:Binuke was doing several edits on the Cazador page, consisting of only capping and de-capping the word "Cazador". I told him that "achievement boosting" is forbidden by the Vault, and may lead to bans on his talk page. He recently erased my post on his talk page, leading me to this report. Thank you for your time, and great many contributions to the Vault! Hugs Scar: "Say 'ello to my little friend!" 16:54, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Arcade Gannon vandal
This guy vandalized Arcade Gannon page. Best regards --M72 Gauzz 06:19, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Gannondorf
This guy keeps changing Gannon's last name to Gannondorf. I'm tired of his actions, hope your banhammer works, and book him! --M72 Gauzz 06:40, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

NPC project
Thanks for all of your recent work on the project! I know it's your job to stuff like this, but you should at least get a little recognition for, am I right? Kastera (talk) 23:17, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Excellent. This will be strange for a bit. I've been working on this project for so long now that I'll need to find another one to occupy my time here. But that shouldn't be to hard. :P

Yeah, we're all going to miss that box. It's been there for at least a good year, year and a half.

Jiang
I noticed that you added a picture of "Jiang", but that skeleton has a shotgun in the image, maing it had to have been the bank robber room (1G). Jiang's skeleton is in 1D. Could you go back and take an image of the real Jiang? Thanks, Kastera (talk) 23:36, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Pipgirl101
You may want to take a look at http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/PipGirl101 considering all the personal attacks and just general nuisance and drama mongering she causes around here a little bit of action may need to be considered. Funny, since she spends most of her time on the Vault complaining about abusive comments towards herself.

Block
This guy vandalized Rose of Sharon Cassidy's page and 2 other pages. Klamath and Festus (disambiguation). Please deal with hin ASAP. --M72 Gauzz 09:39, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Template images
Porter, there are 4 template images on the unused images page. Can they be deleted? Jspoel 13:47, May 30, 2011 (UTC). Right.
 * From what I have seen, it seems the whole site is recached around 6-7am server time. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 14:27, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Lyons
Of course, I'll get right on that. Kastera (talk) 16:10, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

So what now?
Should I go down the list of participants and award all the still active members medals for participating? Kastera (talk) 03:23, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Scratch that; looks like you already got it handled.

Are you going to take that on or should I? (I recommend you; I don't trust myself not to muck something up).

Navbox documentation
The Navbox/doc page misses a few pieces of code here and there. The  code lists a groupA2 here and there, but it doesn't show in the template below. I checked the code and it's simply missing. I'm not sure if there's any more missing sections though. At least one of the sections missing it is 'Standard box with groups, blocks and image'. -- Light Daxter -  Talk  23:38, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

FO3 overhaul
Like I said to Kastera, I understand why I was removed from the participants list. Though I have to admit it stung a little not getting a medal for all those images. On another note, can you check the pagemoves I did yesterday, some (irradiated) consumables. Sometimes I'm not sure what is decapped and what not, like sugar bombs, mac & cheese, pork n' beans. Also for chems like party time mentats, psycho, jet, buffout, hydra, cateye, turbo, hydra, med-x, radaway. How do these need to be written in mid-sentence? Maybe you can also take a look at the chems page and decap what's needed. Jspoel 17:40, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * And another one: all the marked locations in FNV, DM and HH which are not proper nouns so to speak, like ... caves, shack, station, safehouse, nest, crater, reststop, mine and a few more. Do they need to be capped or decapped? On the overview page they are capped, but on the pages themselves they are mostly decapped. What is good?

Rollback Request
Hello. I have been here for two months now, and have been very active on the Wiki since mid-April. I have made quite a lot of vandal reverts & vandal reports, and have undone several bad edits, and made many edits to the Wiki, joining the Anti-capitalisation project with a shaky start, but soon got the hang of it and made many decap edits. I have also helped fill in the gaps of the Fallout Universe by creating many new articles for mentioned characters, places, factions, etc.

I think i would be a good addition to the rollbacks of The Vault and help further against vandals and others.

Trolly Polly Olly 21:27, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Achievement track
Any ideas on what category could benefit from another achievement track the most? Ausir(talk) 15:49, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * We still haven't determined which FO1/2 creature stats are relevant, though. I'll talk to Dude101, maybe he knows more about it. Ausir(talk) 08:22, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Fallout faction overhaul project debate
If you have the time, please see the debate I've started on the forum: Fallout faction overhaul project debate, Thanks! Itachou [~talk~] 18:02, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

DLC reference in infobox
Porter, before your away time we had some discussion about what should be the game reference for DLC items in the infobox. Now we've had two FNV DLC's and most pages (except the DM weapons I noticed) have the DLC reference (so Dead Money character instead of Fallout: New Vegas character and so on). Personally, I have come to like the DLC reference better and with Honest Hearts it's even just the FNVHH being used I believe. At the time you said that the choice we make for FNV DLC's needs to be consistent with FO3's DLC's, so I suggest we do it for those DLC's also. I've done the characters of Mother Zeta now. Can I have the go-ahead? Jspoel 13:32, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, let the bot do it if that's possible. That would save us a lot of work.


 * Great! You can skip DM and HH. I think almost everything has been done there, just a few DM weapons (mods) not and I'm doing those right now.


 * Allright, thanks. I see you changed some of my redirects of which you already talked about it in your former post. I'll take those examples and compare them to DM and HH.

Old World Blues game icon
I noticed Old World Blues has the same game icon as FNV. Can you dig up a nice game icon for this upcoming DLC somewhere? Jspoel 22:30, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Fallout 3 DLC quests
As you know, your bot recently changed "game=FO3" to "game=FO3<select DLC>" in the infobox as seen here. However, that change created a redlink at the top of the box. So, do we need to make pages for add-on quests separate from Fallout 3 quests or should we do something else? Kastera (talk) 01:37, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, at least it got fixed. That's all that matter.

ArchiveTool oasis bug update
Hey again :) I just wanted to stop back by and say that it took a very long time, but the workaround that you found for that odd problem affecting me and a handful of other users did eventually work.  It worked within a day in Firefox.  But, for reasons I can't understand or explain, it took forever to kick into Safari.  It makes no sense, because I initially saw it working within Safari first, but then it poofed away and didn't return for over a week.  I wish I could explain it, but the only thing I can say is that I obviously took sensible steps in the interregnum, including restarting Safari, ensuring the cache was purged, completely resetting Safari to factory conditions, restarting the computer, and restarting the computer after being turned completely off.  None of that had any measurable effect.  It just started working a few days ago in the middle of a session.

But the happy upshot is that, at least for me, your workaround has fixed the issue for me in the browsers I use. So I think you can publish your workaround at dev as a probable solution for people experiencing the known MediaWiki bug. Thanks again for your diligent diagnostic work. :) <span style="">19:35:37 Tue 07 Jun 2011

Template:Navbox
Hi Porter, I am currently much in the German Fallout Wiki positions, including I discuss some templates in the templates you are presented correctly (nested with the green border), but not with us. There, the template already created by someone else and seemingly anything else done, you can put the time please watch and help us somehow?

Thanks in advance if you want to help us in the case. Greetings from Germany, Sandro :-)

Oh and sorry for my poor english, i'v only learned it for two years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alessio79 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~ !

Admin discussion
I created the following Forum:Discussion - Admin responsibility definition in response to the calls in Tag reconfirmation. I would greatly appreciate your opinion. Thanks.--Kingclyde 22:43, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Jspoel
Yes, it was mine, from my early days here. I wasn't happy with my username and experimented a little. Soon I changed my mind again though. I made the redirects now. Jspoel 12:19, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Interactions
I just thought that you would like to know that all the Fallout: New Vegas NPC's have been "upgraded" as per the new VA:LAYC guidelines. It took a while, but it got done. Kastera (talk) 17:49, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Interactive world objects
Hello Porter ;)

Ghost proposed me an idea of ​​creating a new type of page for World Objects (like Containers and storage or Vehicles) for those with the interaction is more important than the norm (such as healing archway), and I think it's an excellent idea, allowing a differentiation of normal world objects and special world objects and allow the player to have an overview of these. We wanted to have your opinion on the subject, what do you think my friend? Itachou [~talk~] 17:50, June 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey thanks =), I had not seen this discussion at the time (I think I was not here at that moment). It's a nice proposition that you have done (also approved by Ausir), I think we're going to follow it, I will ask other admins for what they think and to make them aware about your proposition. Nice evening and see you soon my friend! Itachou [~talk~] 22:18, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Double redirect
It wont allow me to edit the user blog ones, it only allows me to view source. Do you know what the issue is. User Avatar talk.png 14:28, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * It allows me to redirect now, but the list is very long. Can you let a bot do it? JspoelJspoel Vault Boy.png 07:01, June 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll have the bot take care of it in the evening. -- Porter21 (talk) 12:22, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Chrome
I am getting a lot of issues with Chrome crashing due to script errors (for about the last week). This happens about every 5 mins with multiple tabs, I don't know if it is a wikia script or one of ours (I suspect Facebook script, always been a resource hog, if only they had NoScript for chrome). I don't know if you could take a look before I report it. User Avatar talk.png 14:32, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Figured as much, it also happened around the time Chrome updated so it could be a flash update that's causing it. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't our end first. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 12:20, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Bot account
Can you please flag User:GhostAvatarBot as a bot. User Avatar talk.png 13:46, June 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I have left them a message. In the mean time I will use it sparingly while I am playing around with it. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 14:39, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Question
I've been thinking this the whole time, and I did not find the answer to this question: what is a community message board? I am asking this because, rarely I see a message that says "Community message board is updated." --M72 Gauzz 12:56, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

File:Mbox archivepage.png
Hello, could you give me a File: Mbox archivepage.png? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex6122 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~ !

Falloutfreak3
I heard it was you who blocked him. At least, I think it was you. Thanks a lot man. It's bad enough that he had to destroy the FO:3 and NV pages repeatedly, but when someone replaces your userpage with random sh*t it's very annoying. I actually went around to Ausir, Jspoel and Kastera (I didn't know he wasn't an admin) and asked them to take care of him, then thanked them each individually when he got blocked. But, now that I know it was you, you deserve all the thanks. THANK YOU! Yes-Man 06:48, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Hello
hello thare porter. I'm just one of the many visitors to this amazing site. I felt like after this wikia help't me so much I should leave a good message to one of the administors and you were one of the most efficient and most easy-to-track admin's I met. I am so glad this wikia exist and im trying to help in evry way i can correcting errors and stuff. I had so much trouble before I stumbld across this site and almost all of tham are gone. So i just wanted to make sure that i show'd my appriciation. So thnx a lot and i hope this wikia will continue fixing problems and helping others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by R0ckingH3ctor (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~ !

Vorlage Waffe
Hey Porter, bin gerade wieder dran, im dt. FO-Wiki die Waffenvorlage zu übernehmen, leider gibts da Scriptbezogene Probleme. Würdest du dir mal bitte das ganze ansehen unter: Infobox Waffe? Habe schon versucht ohne dem vertikalen Strich das Script zu beeinflussen, doch scheinbar klappts damit nicht, ist dazu eine weitere Vorlage nötig? Oder dürfen die Übersetzungen in beiden Seiten (Vorlage/Doc) nicht vorgenommen werden? Ich hoffe auf deine Rückmeldung. :-) Gruß Alessio79 15:42, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Possible vandal
There is a user who just made an account now, and the first thing they did was make a page titled 'Sdsf' or something. It's just gibberish. Could you keep an eye on him? The user is Aijing2011 Yes-Man 08:40, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, they're a vandal. If you're logged in, I'd appreciate you blocking them. Thanks! Yes-Man 08:41, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

Aijing2011
Thanks for getting rid of the vandal before they made more pages. You're a good guy. Yes-Man 08:45, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

By the way, how do you put those 'Nominated for Deletion' boxes on pages? Can any user do it? Yes-Man 08:47, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Yes-Man 09:29, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

Panem et circenses
I must be missing out on something. I read that as 'bread and circuses; not sure what that has to do with dictatorship. Kastera (talk) 02:46, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Template:SPECIAL
How does it work with stats at 10? Always gives an error about incorrect length. IPodged 05:10, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Works fine, thanks. - IPodged 03:11, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Air
Xa and I are having a little dispute over the Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel ammunition "Air". I was told that you deleted a page like this in the past, and I was wondering why. Kastera (talk) 16:32, July 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, so it sounds like it would be a good idea to get rid of it, since it really is nothing. To be honest I just wanted the relink to go away; they bug me.

SPECIAL
Thanks for the update, saves me asking the question =) User Avatar talk.png 20:22, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Games template
Hi. I'm Random Ranaun, a bureaucrat over at The Sims Wiki. I don't mean to be a bother, but I've seen your Games template and it looks really awesome! I hope it isn't a problem, but I tried to add it to The Sims Wiki, but as you can see, it backfired horribly. If it's okay, do you think you can tell me all that's required in .css and .js for the template to work? —<font color="#008000">Random Ranaun (<font color="#00FF00">Talk to me! ) 18:26, July 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! But, where is the CSS bit? :s —<font color="#008000">Random Ranaun (<font color="#00FF00">Talk to me! ) 17:43, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * I added it to both Wikia.css and Common.css, and I copied the Common.js part, but it's still not working. Is there anything else that is required for the template? —<font color="#008000">Random Ranaun (<font color="#00FF00">Talk to me! ) 21:44, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Festus (Fallout: New Vegas)
Thanks for blocking the guy responsible for putting nonsense/gibberish on the page. I've been waiting for hours for an administrator to block the guy. By the way, thanks! :) --M72 Gauzz 12:29, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Caravan cards
What will happen to the card images then? I don't want them to get lost. I don't see them in your sandbox. Jspoel 16:15, July 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * I suppose it's allright like you propose it. Sorry I'm not so enthousiastic, because I really liked those Collector's Edition card images to have a prominent place. No they are tucked away somewhere on a bunch on the promotional items page, and if you search for a card, you won't see the CE card image anymore that belongs to it, but are redirected to a page with just some text and numbers. To compensate I suggest a link then for the general deck cards to the images on the promotional items page. I'm not in favor for removing the formid numbers, we add those numbers everywhere, so why not here? The decks themselves can go to the Caravan deck page, that's fine by me. JspoelJspoel Vault Boy.png 18:13, July 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've taken another look at that promotional items page and now I see it's not that long. As far as I'm concerned you can add the CE card images there in a gallery with a link to it on the Caravan card page, like you suggested in the first place. No need for a seperate CE card page. So in fact I can agree on your first suggestion, removal of GECKid is also fine by me (though I don't really mind them).

Navboxen richtig darstellen
Hi Porter, hab dich vorhin im Chat leider nicht erreicht. Ich versuche die Navboxen zu konfigurieren, damit ich sie später einbinden kann. Kannst du dir das bitte mal ansehen, anscheinend ist da etwas nicht richtig konfiguriert in den Scripten oder ich bindete falsche Vorlagen ein. Zum Beispiel de:Vorlage:Navbox, ich habe sie mittlerweile mit euren abgeglichen und teilübersetzt, sodass jetzt zwar etwas angezeigt wird, allerdings ist der Hintergrund davon nicht grau hinterlegt sondern weiß. Desweiteren habe ich auch die de:Vorlage:Monobook.css angepasst, was scheinbar nicht viel genützt hat, ich sollte mich mehr mit CSS befassen. ;) Außerdem werden einige Vorlagen immer noch nicht richtig angezeigt, schaut man sich mal den Artikel de:Fallout:_New_Vegas_Orte an. Na ich hoffe das wir gemeinsam daran arbeiten und eine Lösung finden. Beste Grüße ;) Alessio79 17:01, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Cards
It's coming together nicely, those card pages. Another point, I've been making some disambig pages for characters. Is it ok to rename major characters/companions like James and Dogmeat to James (Fallout 3) and Dogmeat (Fallout) because there are more characters with the same first name. Jspoel 19:08, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Map marker images
Say Porter, remember my question about the map marker images a few months ago? When will you have time to make a start with it? You can count me in if you need some help with it. Jspoel 12:08, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Allright, I understand. Well, I know now anyway you've not forgotten about it. By the way, are you also planning to do local maps? I was planning on replacing some Fallout 3 local maps but if you're doing those too, I'll leave them be.

Sorry to bother you
We've got an anonymous vandal messing with the John Henry Eden page. I don't think he's been dealt with yet, do you think you could check it out? Thanks. 09:28, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, forgot to leave their account. Their IP address is 76.183.230.217. Yes Man default.png 09:30, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that. 09:55, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Kickban expiration?
Hi, just a quick question. On July 5th, around 5:00 PM, I was kickbanned from the chat (and rightly so), along with being blocked from a couple of user talk pages. My block has expired, and apologies have been given to everyone involved. However, when I try to access the chat again, I get the same error message that was there when I got kickbanned. According to Kastera, the administrator that blocked me from the pages, said that I should be able to access the chat normally once my block was over, and that I should contact you if it wasn't working. Could you check to make sure I'm in the clear for using the chat again? Thanks a lot. Sincerely, It&#39;s a bird! It&#39;s a plane! It&#39;s Otisman! 11:35, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the clear. It&#39;s a bird! It&#39;s a plane! It&#39;s Otisman! 12:26, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Poll problems
I recently created a weekly poll like Crazy Sam because I though it would be fun. However, I'm having a minor problem: when you look at the poll User blog:Kastera1000/Weekly Wednesday Poll - 01|on my blog it displays that 6 people have voted, but when you look at the source page it displays 13 people have voted. Is this simply a caching issue and nothing more? Kastera (talk) 17:34, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Van Buren
Sorry about wrongly categorizing the Van Buren mentioned-only factions category, I copied it mainly from the Dead Money mentioned only factions category but made a mistake. Jspoel 14:18, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * I noticed you replaced Category:Fallout: New Vegas mentioned-only factions with Category:Mentioned-only factions in the Van Buren mo factions cat. I was wondering about the reason, because I've just compared it to the Category:Point Lookout mentioned-only factions and there it's a subcat of Category:Fallout 3 mentioned-only factions.
 * Wait, now it all comes to me. Van Buren is not an add-on. I'm having a small dip today.

question

 * If you have a min I have a quick question. How did you get those boxes on your page, with the workbench and quote.  I looked in the help files but couldn't find anything on it.
 * Xa3  talk  Contributions  MysteriousStranger.png:13, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Chatroom problems
Forwarding this message to you, also sent it to Ausir Jspoel 13:31, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Ausir, a few days ago we had an unwanted situation in the chatroom while there were only normal users present. User:DR.EdwardRichtofen1943 was really causing trouble there, seeing the reactions here. So the problem is we don't have it on record, and have to believe it on the word of users. What do you want to do with Richthofen? If it is decided to keep the chat feature (which is popular I believe, though keeping users away from editing), then we need some kind of (short-term) chat-log, which registers conversations for admins to consult. Also some trusted users could be appointed to chat-moderators. And at the moment us admins needs to manually remove the bannedfromchat checkmark. It would be much better so separate the kickban into kick, and ban (Avatar's idea). With kick being banning them from chat (possible for chat-moderators and admins), and ban which also blocks them from the wiki (only possible for admins). And at the same time being able to set a time-frame for it. I'll send this post also to Porter, as I think a speedy solution is needed. Jspoel 13:24, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Unique and add-on weapons
Chief editor and are in a bit of a dispute. I say only weapons that are added with an add-on are italicized and then have the appropriate icon placed after them. He says that unique weapons are italicized and add-on weapons have the icon placed after them. Who is correct? Kastera (talk) 17:36, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * So we should go with Chief editors' method? --Kastera (talk) 18:30, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Abusing multiple accounts
I've encountered a serious case where a user has claimed to have 99 different accounts. What course of action would you advise? --User Avatar talk.png 12:10, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Follow pages of interest
Is it possible to follow a page of interest even I have not contributed to it? I mean I can do it in newspaper debates so why not here? The way it's normal done is by sending an empty post with follow ticked off. But because it's empty it never shows and I only receive any new debates to the article? Is this possible in wiki?--Kilroy1975 14:17, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Deadlybot
Could you flag my bot as a bot please? Thanks. Also I think I may have missed something, I get an error running login.py: [root@servername pywikipedia]# python login.py Traceback (most recent call last): File "login.py", line 58, in ? import re, os, query File "/bin/pywikipediabot/pywikipedia/query.py", line 37, in ? import simplejson as json ImportError: No module named simplejson Do you know what that's about? I have python 2.4 and it's running on CentOS. -- 21:28, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well that explains why you didn't already do that. Thanks, I'll ask Ausir and I'll see if he knows about that bot error too. -- 11:27, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Robin on Rollerskates
after seeing that whole thing play out just before, I must say, it was scary not having an admin to ban the vandal. Thanks for showing up when you did. you're our hero. that is all. :P

THANK YOU! I would like to thank you on behalf of Nashorn1127, EB683, T51d, Supermutantslayer450, and myself. That vandal was very persistent. 07:31, July 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just thought I should let you know, I believe Robin on Rollerskates was actually Trolly Polly. He made an announcement on his user talk page about it. Yes Man default.png 07:45, July 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're a clever one, Porter. There is no way of stopping Trolly from trolling, is there? Anyway, keep up the fantastic work! Yes Man default.png 07:49, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Chat issues.
I'm currently having trouble with chat, I don't really know what the problem is other than it doesn't work right. It doesn't post what I write, and it doesn't keep up with the rest of chat. Dr.Pibb 06:56, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Chip Pages
You keep messing up my edits D:

Saxony4 08:51, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Im aware. _-_

Saxony4 09:00, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Achievements images
Hello. I want to try myself in creating an achievement for Fallout Tactics characters project. It needs images but I cannot find any blank bronze/silver/gold badge images. Can you please help me? <font face="Segoe Script">veryblackraven 22:12, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow. Didn't know that. :) That makes things much easier. Thanks for the information. <font face="Segoe Script">veryblackraven 08:23, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

chat not working
hello ok heres the thing i just got of a ban for spamming a link to a fallout 4 commercial i can edit stuff but i cant get on the chat it says Permissions error. when i try it. if you can get me on i'll promise to never do it again so can you please help leave me a message on my page USER NAME- Raggedcozy - 10;40PM JULY 23

ban abuse
i just got back from reading cartmans talk page and a lot of people are complaining that he is misusing his ability to ban people from chat am not asking you to do something but can you please look in on it. ANNONNIMUS PERSON

Robots
Ah, I was just continuing what someone else was doing. Saxony4 13:11, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, thank you for letting me know, I will keep it in mind. Saxony4 13:17, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

OWB robots
I saw that Roxie was in this category when I edited that page, so I added the ones I made yesterday to the category and no other pages because I thought I had missed them. I am sorry to have caused you a problem, I simply thought I had made a mistake and so tried to correct it. I know better now :). One question for you though: I would like to change what comes up when you click Fallout 1 or 2 locations when making a new page, so that it also includes notable characters in the initial template. Several people have directed me towards you, and so I hoped that maybe you would talk me through it? Thanks for the heads up and have a nice day,.


 * Oh. Well that is a shame, but thanks for the help. I think it is a useful section, especially if you need to find people. Is it okay if I continue to add it to the pages I create? TheGuardianCalligraphy.pngGuardianoftheWastesTag.png 22:01, July 24, 2011 (UTC).

Userpage
My user page was recently vandalized and I'm not sure how to go about it. I banned the guy for two weeks until this can be sorted out. Does this sort of stuff lead to a perma-ban or am I just getting too overprotective of myself? --Kastera (talk) 06:29, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * I protected it the moment it got vandalized, so that fixes that. Why can't kids just play nice?

Rätselraten mit Vorlage Overviewpagelist
Moin Porter, leider bekomme ich es nicht hin, die Vorlage korrekt arbeiten zu lassen, wahrscheinlich liegts am Verständnis. Ich habe schon versucht, diese Parser-Funktion anzusprechen, indem ich Erfolge und Trophäen eingab und so versuchte es auflisten zu lassen. Leider existiert nur der de:Fallout: New Vegas Erfolge und Trophäen-Artikel, nicht jedoch der Erfolge und Trophäen selbst. Woran könnte es liegen, wenn es schon bei Holodisks nicht funktioniert? Muß ich auf richtige Schreibweise achten oder hats tiefergehende Gründe? Gruß Alessio79 16:52, July 26, 2011 (UTC) ;)

Chat moderators
With my comment on the chat feature I meant it's moving people away from article editing, regular users as well as admins. Avatar has given us a break right now, leaving his bot in the chatroom to be the ever watchful eye. He even programmed it to kickban people if it sees gibberish. And it's working out quite nicely. Every day a few kicks and I think Avatar himself browses through the bot's log to see if there's any more mishap. But a chatlog would be better of course. And also setting a timeframe and a split between a kickban and wikiban. By the way, you already received a reaction by wiki-staff and our request should be granted with the next update. Concerning who qualifies to be a chatmoderator, that they need to have a certain level of maturity and be active are the best to mention. I already have a few names in mind because I spend a lot of time here and know who's been chatting a lot. Just create a forum thread where people can name candidates like you explained I think. If someone is voted for, we'll know soon enough if he wants the job or not. We could use probably 3 non-admin moderators or so. See how it goes from there. Jspoel 21:04, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

please anwser
can people kick me for haveing my user pic as the earth people are saying they will kick my from chat because its a earth can they do that?? and if they do what do i do about it???--Raggedcozy 02:54, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Chat Mods
Oh. Sorry then. I'll see if someone else fits the role. -- Yakov 11:14, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Moderators
What do you think of making the "moderator" rank more formalized here at The Vault, as a group of users with "chat moderator" and "rollback" rights? I don't think it makes sense to separate the two. Ausir(talk) 12:59, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I think it's more of a trust issue - it's not as if all admins use all of the admin tools either. I think the question is whether rollback and chatmod rights require the same level of trust, and I'd be inclined to say they do. And it would be a nice formal level of user rights for people to aspire to even if they're not ready to be admins yet. Ausir(talk) 13:13, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think "moderator" is a good name, pretty clear and clearly below "administrator". Some users do call admins "moderators", but it's not much of a deal given that admins will have all rights that moderators do. And we could set some formal criteria for moderator requests from now on. Ausir(talk) 15:19, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ishaan
but why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ishaan Singh (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~ !

Thanks
Thanks for answering my question to Itachou. How did you know that I asked: was it the activities feed? Once again you have been helpful, and kind, so thanks. Hope to see you around, 19:02, July 27, 2011 (UTC). P.S. I've only just seen your message from the other day about the notable characters section. Do you want me to remove it for you? Luckily, I have a list of pages that I have made, so this wouldn't be much bother.

Trolla Cannon
OIC, I didn't know that he was caught already. That anon's comment was the first I'd heard about it. I was aware of Tezzla's lengthy ban so I knew that if he was circumventing that, action needed to be taken. -- 19:32, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Sonic emitter
Can you review the info on GhostAvatar's page that I left concerning the infobox. Being that you are the infobox master maybe you can see something that I'm over looking. Thanks!--Kingclyde 22:02, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks like Ghost figured it out.Thanks--Kingclyde 22:09, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Removal of scction
I've done that for you. I am sure there will be strays on the pages that I didn't make, but I'll hunt these down another time for you :). Thanks again for the help,.

Polls in news
A bit ago, Ausir gave Crazy sam the go-ahead to publish his weekly polls in the The Vault news feed. I then asked him if I could do the same, since my polls seldom get above 10 voters and Crazy sam's latest poll has already gotten over 350 voters. However, he's likely too busy to give me any answer, since it's not essential to the flow of the wiki, so I though I'd ask you. Am I able to post my polls to the news feed? Thank you for your quick response, Kastera (talk) 21:38, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow, that was a quick response. I'll do that now. Thanks!

Doctor O or 0?
Porter, what do you think of renaming O to 0? I'm (like most other admins) in favor of renaming him 0, as soon reveals to be his real name. You can read the talkpage for some discussion about it. And How it's coming along with the map marker images for the infobox (that continues to be my special interest). Jspoel 15:29, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

New infobox
Ahhh, been wondering what I was missing. Been watching the progress, but missed the personnel CSS you added. I like it indeed, defiantly like some of the features added (noticed the collapse option you added a few days ago), tool tips works well aswell.

However I do have a concern about the placement of the icon in regards to transparent images, did a few preview edits and in some cases it overlays the main image (example .357 mag with .357 mag icon, looked weird). Is there a option to choose placement of the icon i.e. which corner of the table cell the div is placed (this way it could be placed in a unused area of the image). Or to add some buffering between the 2 images. However it does work very well when overlaying a .jpg image (tested with Ain't That a Kick in the Head quest and achievement icon image) User Avatar talk.png 18:05, July 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * I am with you, I would prefer consistent site-wide placement of the icon. So maybe a option to shrink the main image and shift it over to the left might be the answer. That should prevent any conflicts without reducing the main image to much. I don't think I would want to be using px option, as it would shave the image down on both sides. And the features you mentioned are all awesome, defiantly needed. I especially like the upload image button and the restrictions on the image size. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 19:12, July 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * Moving it down is probably the best option, as in most cases the overlap will only tend to affect weapons (mainly rifles). In those cases the picture tends to be a long narrow image (example: Sniper rifle (Fallout: New Vegas)), so they are not tending to take much real estate in terms of hight. Personally I wouldn't go for half hight, because there will be a few cases where this isn't going to solve the issue ("there is always one" law, lol). I would say the best option would be something similar to the px option that is already in place, but applied to offsetting the image placement in terms of hight. That way the offset can be varied by editors to fit the image in question. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 19:39, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

We Three Approach In Humble Questionittudinaless!!!!
Great and Powerful Porter! Emily and Mineself didst have a question that no oracle in the land of the chat could answer. Scar did have been told to seek you out, and seeked (sucked? sought? yes SOUGHT!! There we go) SOUGHT** out your self in the most intrepid and other adjectives of manners! Weary, we three (for the Scar didst insist upon coming with us, something about pointing the way and that we damnable young whippersnappers wouldn't find our way or something) come to you know and supplecantily we ask, o Great Bureaucrat of The Vault.... how does one upload a video to the site, not just link-to or embed the thing - specifically to our own profiles and no where else, as we know that's against the rules. For having the very temerity to approach you, dear and powerful Sir, Madame or Other, ... we also bring you | these | three | sacrifices as an offering that the murder, burning and eating of such gifts borne and laid before you may sate and allow we three to leave unscathed. Thank you for your time, --The Arcadian Rook(talk)User blog: Arcadian Rook 14:21, August 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Blast!! Ah well.  As to the Elaborateness, you know what they say: Go Big or Go Insane ^_^ --The Arcadian Rook(talk)User blog: Arcadian Rook 14:25, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Vandal
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.53.7.0 Vandalised the Rose of Sharon Cassidy page. That's the third time in the last hour, by different users. Maybe the page should be locked. 09:10, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Cass vandal
Thanks for blocking 3 guys who vandalized Cass' page! :) Have a nice day and see you soon.--<font face="Segoe Script">gauzzrifle 10:57, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Chat Moderators
Porter, I've been doing some thinking, and I believe that there needs to be more than one Australian chat moderator. I am very happy to be a mod but I cannot look after the chat during this time period alone. I think if I had some backup, it would work much more efficiently. I would like to ask that you make ButterflyKiss a mod also, because we are in the same time zone and if I am unable to moderate the chat for any reason, ButterflyKiss would be the perfect candidate for a stand-in moderator. ButterflyKiss is polite, has a strong sense of judgement, and is very willing to be a moderator. Please, think about it and let me know about your decision. I cannot look after the chat alone and it would ease my mind to know someone is standing in for me when I am unavailable. Thank you. 11:21, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Porter. My mind is more on the safety of the chat, and it was kind of pressuring to be the only person in my timezone who had moderator rights. At least now I can feel at ease when I'm not on the chat. Again, thank you. Yes Man default.png 11:56, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Gears of Duty's adminship request
Probably slipped your mind, but before you leave I think Gears would like to know if he's becoming an admin or not: Forum:Adminship request - Gears of duty Jspoel 20:10, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox new
Just a few thing on my first test run. Games parameter seems to only support up to a max of 3 Abb. Infobox size can be exceeded by placing an image in the footer with a px size greater than the infobox size. And just a little one, when collapsing and then expanding a group, the white space under the group and above the first label/contents is double sized. User Avatar talk.png 20:39, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Vandal
You still there, Porter? If so, there is a vandal issue we need to deal with. http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/67.184.225.166 Repeat offender... please ban. 09:05, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Mutant's Rising
Hello my friend ;)

I re-closed the discussion in the forum of "Mutant's Rising" since the discussion is over, it's about something not covered by the Vault and the author has withdrawn his proposal.

If anyone want to talk about Mutant's Rising in the future, he can create a topic in the "Off-topic discussion" forum or go to the Fallout moddings wiki Vault-Tec Labs. Sorry, it's just that I like things to be clean but if you have a particular reason to re-open it, no problem of course =). Itachou [~talk~] 19:39, August 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * No, a wiki already exist for Fallout mods, it would be pointless and disrespectful to create a "second" (I didn't think that you didn't know about it).


 * In addition, the primary function of a game Wiki it's to talk only about official content, it's the golden rules, it's one of the things that the community has nothing to say about it. If someone want to talk about other things, he can creates a new wiki or go to a specific wiki about what he want =). So it's useless to give an opinion on something that will never be covered by the Vault, if people want to talk about unofficial content like Mutant's Rising, Nuka Break, FOnline etc., he can go on No Mutants Allowed, Duck and Cover, Vault-Tec Labs for mods or on the off-topic forum here created for this.


 * Sorry if this seems aggressive but this is not the case ;). Have a nice evening and see you soon Porter! Itachou [~talk~] 16:53, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

You talk about the exceptions to the golden rule, almost all wiki (small and large) doesn't cover the unofficial content like for the large (90000-6000): WoWWiki, EQ2i, FFXIclopedia, Wookieepedia, Memory Alpha, GuildWars Wikia, RuneScape Wiki, Halo Nation, Dragon Age Wiki etc.

WoWWiki has only a page about interface Add-ons. UESPWiki on the Elder Scrolls series I'm follow since Daggerfall only cover just a few mods (majority of graphical mods) but that's all - they are not take into account in pages, and Jax and Daxter wiki is a small wiki with only 1000 pages. Anyway, a Fallout mods wiki already exist for Fallout, so the question doesn't arise. If anyone want to contribute for a mod, he can go in Vault-Tec Labs. Wiki are not simple toy, it's an investment of passion and time, Dude101 created this Wiki for people who want to talk about that, we should respect that he has built.

But I see that it's not this that bothers you. Sorry but you have wrong, I'm very open to many things and with a neutral view to let people talk to each other but here, regardless of my opinion, I lock the topic for two things:


 * It's a proposal about something wich was never accepted by the Vault since a wiki about that already exist, but especially
 * The author has withdrawn his proposal
 * Future message were off the subject and off the purpose of the forum "Wiki discussion"

The question was whether yes or not we can cover Mutant's Rising. Given that there is already Vault-Tec Labs for this, it will not be the case and the author (Guardian) has withdraw his proposal. So, if the author has withdraw his question, the discussion is close, all message after are off the subject, and off issue is not a good thing, especially if it can be prevented. So if someone wants to make the same proposal which will of course also refused since there is Vault-Tec Labs for that, he can do and of course everyone can talk about almost anything (like mods), but in a new thread =), and not in the "Wiki discussion" forum for talk (since this is not about the Vault) but in the "Off-topic forum", which is also one of the reasons cited above for the lock. Itachou [~talk~] 12:27, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Special:RecentChanges
Can you take a look at Special:RecentChanges, the auto refresh tick box has gone since they changed it to a admin dashboard. It still shows for non-admin, but not for admins. User Avatar talk.png 20:02, August 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, it's annoying. And the Recent changes edits are spread just over 2/3rd of the page. I liked the previous layout a lot better (whole width of the screen). The stats are now in the way. Also, the recent changes screen is missing the tabpage link to Fallout: New Vegas. I kinda liked that one too. JspoelJspoel Vault Boy.png 20:59, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey Porter, thanks for fixing recent changes, auto-refresh (positioned just fine), wide screen, and even my Fallout: New Vegas tab-page is back. Couldn't be better. Saves me 3 weeks of annoyance.

Chat Mods
Hello, Porter. Hope you're enjoying your break. Anyways, I recently asked Ghost to make User:EB683 a chat mod, as I'm starting back to school, and my availability will be going down the drain. He assigned him the rights, but wanted me to leave you a message so you could confirm it on your return. EB was designated one of the official backups in the vote, and he is available the same times I am (or was), so he seems the best choice. Hopefully this is OK with you. BILLYOCEAN 01:12, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

We need another chat moderator or another admin
Hi there Porter i know your on holidays and all but i just wanted to leave a message. Of a night time (AEST- Australia Eastern Standard Time) we lose all admins (aside from Ghost Avatar Bot) and we hardly have any chat mods on of a night, usually its EB or Yes Man but they cant keep an eye out on the wiki all the time, EB said he is busy during week days and so he is hardly on and yes man cant be on all the time, he usually leaves to have a break and will be on for some hrs before calling it a night. I come before you to ask if either i can some how gain Chat rights for the Australian Eastern Standard Timezone or if someone else can become an admin, please think this over because the other chat moderators are on of a day and the other aussie moderator butterfly kiss is on mainly of a day and hardly of a night. The Netherealm awaits for you 09:32, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

New Template
Hi Porter, I added a new template whilst you were gone and I just wanted to okay it with you, it works the same as the image needed ones, but it is for the pages icons, so for weapons, armours, misc and so on. Thought I should let you know as you are the King of the templates ;)..

ArchiveTool. Yes, again . ..
Hiya :) I hate to be back on your talk page for ArchiveTool stuff, especially as you're enjoying a break, but it seems that the  new user page masthead has somehow bumped the tool from the dropdown menu.  This issue is only on user talk pages; all other odd-numbered namespaces are unaffected.  My guess is that somehow the name of the button on the user talk page has changed, but I haven't dug into the code as of yet.  Thought I'd give you a heads up, just in case I haven't found a solution by the time you return from vacation.   <span style="">17:14:31 Fri 19 Aug 2011
 * Oh, you know what? I totally forgot to come back here and leave a message.  It was actually working again prior to your fixes today.  Those fixes made the tool again disappear, so I reverted to my last known good version.  Sorry for forgetting to drop back by.   <span style="">00:48:18 Tue 06 Sep 2011

Templates
Just to let you know, I have made some modifications to a few templates. I have added a link mode to abb. This was to solve the issue with Gamearticlelist and Infobox person, where it was using the default text to create the link and short mode to display the name. I have also adjusted those 2 templates to now use link mode to create the link and short mode for the displayed name. Examples, Joshua Sawyer now links to Old World Blues (add-on) instead of Old World Blues in the infobox for games. And Hologram now links to Point Lookout (add-on) instead of Point Lookout in the overview box for the games. User Avatar talk.png 18:08, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back
Welcome back, Porter, how was your brother's wedding? Already back to business I see, even added something for me. Can you take a look at the blog double redirects, doesn't give me permission. And if you could use some help with adding the map marker images once you're ready to change it, I'd be glad to help. For the rest, not too much trouble on the homefront, things are going steady. Although the editing has decreased significantly since the schools have begun again. Jspoel  18:03, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Mutants Rising
Hello my friend =)

You go back on an old discussion I saw ;). Anyway, for that you are right it's true. Ho also welcome back! Me I'm not in The Vault for now but on the Deus Ex Wiki for improve it, need a lot of works.

I expect the help of Ausir for templates but I think the staff member of Wikia doesn't spread the words or Ausir has not taken the time to contact me on this subject. Well, nice evening and see you soon Porter! Itachou [~talk~] 23:53, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Icon needed
Hi again Porter :). Okay, that seems fair to me. I think that it will become used if people see it on the weapon and armour pages of the new LR and GRA items, but as you said we will have to see if people pick it up. Thanks for keeping it for now though. Welcome back by the way :).

Songs
Hello Porter. As I recall, you're the most knowledgeable about infoboxes, so I was wondering it were at all possible to develop an infobox for songs in the Fallout series. There are plenty of articles out there, but they sort of convey the song information differently. I think an infobox would greatly make page navigation easier. Get back to me whenever you can and let me know your thoughts. --Kastera (talk) 23:11, September 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * I have taken a stab at this here infobox song. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 01:48, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

Css class
I'm designing templates for the Deus Ex wiki, and I need to crack the css class thing you have on the infoboxs here that provides a background. Could you give me a walkthrough of what I need to do please.


 * Thank you so much. I'll make sure you get creditted, but Ausir suggested we import some of those from here and adapt them, which is well within my capabilites, but I wasn't sure what this was. Maybe one day I could be your apprentice ;). Until then, thanks again Porter. TheGuardianCalligraphy.pngGuardianoftheWastesTag.png


 * Okay then. I'll have a read through and try to sift the wheat from the chaff if you'll excuse the English saying (I know they don't translate well, but this one should) ;). Can I get back to you if I have trouble? TheGuardianCalligraphy.pngGuardianoftheWastesTag.png

Chat's malfunctioning
The chat refuses to work, and has been acting strangely for days. Problem is that only some comments are visible for me, are haphazardly placed, my messages refuse to work, and the sidebar which shows attendance only shows random users there, and stills show them after they leave. I cannot interact with any user through the sidebar either, so banning is unpossible. This is quite the dilemma, and I know I'm not alone. It's annoying on a personal level, yes, but as I cannot ban mischievous users, nor warn them for that matter, this might require fixing. I'm not sure if you can do anything, but figuring as you're a wizard in terms of these things, I decided to leave you a message. Hugs <font color= "Purple"> "Say 'ello to my little friend!"
 * I am now running it on Firefox, and it works. I think the problem might be isolated to IE9, this needs to be checked out. Hugs [[file:MadeMan2.png|30px|link=User:Scarface11235]]<font color= "Purple"> "Say 'ello to my little friend!"
 * Fixed entirely now, just so you know. We haven't had any further problems: Me and Ghost believe it was down to Wikia in all their wisdom ;). TheGuardianCalligraphy.pngGuardianoftheWastesTag.png 16:19, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Caravan card images
Hello Porter21,

I was just curious if it would at all be possible to receive the images of all the caravan cards. I want to program a separate version of caravan and use the actual images of the cards from the game. The wiki is the only place I've found the full set. Send me an email if you get a chance: jrcoty3@gmail.com


 * Unfortunately, I don't have the images saved on my PC anymore. I guess your best option is downloading them from the wiki. -- Porter21 (talk) 11:08, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Mouse-over
I added a comment about the lucky badge. Hope they see it and can fix it before tomorrow's update. Welcome back btw, you've been away a pretty long time now, 2 months. Jspoel  20:55, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Dragon Age Wiki
Hey there Porter21, I just wanted to drop by and thank you for your wonderful auto-refresh, auto join scripts and your pioneering work in the gadgets. I lifted some of the ideas you had and adapted them for our use at Dragon Age Wiki. They are fantastic. Thank you very much! -- 22:37, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Archived talkpages
Porter, for some time now Avatar and I have been reducing the wanted pages. We stumbled upon a problem with archived talkpages showing up as wanted pages. See my talkpage and Avatar's. Can you fix this? Jspoel  11:15, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Allright, thanks for the explanation.
 * I found this, I don't know if it might help at all. Supposed to work the same as #ifexists, but doesn't create a wanted link User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 14:57, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Also found this, although I have a feeling this is a long shot and there might be an issue using this method. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 18:48, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Semantic MediaWiki
Hi there Porter, I see you've been making a new Infobox code. One thing with the code is that you need to repeat things multiple times (label1, label2, etc). Have you ever tried using Sematnic Forms to make this easier? If you look on wikia:spore:Template:Infobox, just using the #arraymap: makes the code more simple.--Technobliterator 12:14, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Removal of info
Your the most active, so chack this guy out please? He removed a vast amount on Fallout 3 karma, which I feel was so extensive it contstitutes vandalism: Special:Contributions/2.218.169.76.


 * Okay Porter, I was a bit unsue myself, but that seems more than fair :). See you around TheGuardianCalligraphy.pngGuardianoftheWastesTag.png

Journal entries on quests pages
Porter, I discovered a problem with updating the infobox on quest pages! It replaces desc with image desc and the entries can no longer be seen. Can you take a look at it?
 * Now I see the bot is already correcting it.
 * Allright, thanks for letting me know. Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 15:41, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Not sure it's much of an issue, but when I click on upload image in an empty infobox (for example FNV quest page) and later on decide not to upload the image, the color of the 'upload image' text changes from yellow into dark blue, making it almost unreadable. Thought I'd let you know.Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 17:16, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Challenge infobox
I know you're a busy man, but when you find the time, can you take a look at this forum thread (maybe you've already seen it). At the moment Challenges pages use the perk infobox template. Thought it would be a good idea to make a challenge infobox template. Jspoel  16:34, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Great! Actreal will be happy too.
 * He sure will. :D --Actreal 22:57, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * You did that quick! Just two edits. I noticed a few things. At the copy/paste example, name is missing. And you changed some name descriptions right? benefit1 has become reward and require1 has become task. That's good for me. I think you forgot to add ranks? It was being used with the old template. I That's what I'm seeing for the moment. Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 23:29, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Now I see you didn't add name on purpose, because it isn't required. And I noticed that the 'empty' text on the image parameter line is not needed anymore when there's no image. Adding 'empty' even results in a error message now. That's also intentional I presume.

The example on the template page has a supertitle linking to the non-existent page "Honest Hearts challenges". Is it possible to make it automatically link to Fallout: New Vegas challenges instead? --Actreal 23:03, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * You linked this through, still the Honest Hearts example on the challenge template page shows up red and wants to create a page. How is this possible? And how are you going to separate the perk pages infobox update from the challenge pages infobox update? They both use the perk template. Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 10:57, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox achievement
In Chrome only, the '3' for PlayStation 3 is creating a double line and unneeded white space to the box (see Dead Money). IE and FF and perfectly fine in displaying this, it might be a CSS box model issue. User Avatar talk.png 20:15, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Only solutions I can think of, is either a no-wrap element or even a no-break space just for this case, or reduce the padding by 1px on the left or right side of the cell. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 21:44, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox game
Seems it is case sensitive, dont know if that is really an issue - but may require a bot to decap the parameters for infoboxs. I only noticed when I looked at the unused images and saw the wasteland cover art as being unused. Checked out the page and it was already added in the code, but didn't display when used with 'Image =image.jpg' instead of 'image =image.jpg'. User Avatar talk.png 19:33, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, to be honest. My bot is also geared to decap the infobox parameters I have coded into it as well, I only did it for uniformity - but what it has done so far, should reduce this on pages I have been editing with it. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 20:10, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

Itachou
Brace yourself for some bad news for the Fallout wiki (good news for Itachou personally though). He's leaving The Vault from editing. He has higher priorities in life now (see my talkpage). I'm sad to see him and his quality edits go. Always a cheerful and friendly person. We'll miss him here.

Concerning the challenge pages, I'm working my way through it, making good progress. Can you add the formid to the achievement and trophy template? Thought might as well include that. Jspoel  19:27, October 11, 2011 (UTC) I found this example in the GECK. It's listed in the GECK as a challenge, on the wiki it's an achievement. Still, it has a form id.
 * [[file:achievement challenge example.png|300px|left]]

Challenges
I did New Vegas Samurai. Think that's what you mean right? Btw, it appears the icon size parameter doesn't work. Tried it with New Vegas Samurai and it stays small. Moved the icon to image, then used the image size parameter. Nice color you added to the admin header and also some article management work (delete, rename etc.)! Jspoel  14:22, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you take a look at this mail I received? Looks like some documentation still needs to be updated.

Updating info box parameters
Anyone is allowed to update info box parameters where doing so is required, right? -- Almighty Higgey (talk page) 03:26, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * If an article still has the old info box template (the one with more green on it), am I allowed to update it to the newer one? -- Almighty Higgey (talk page) 07:55, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Chat interface messages
There was a lot of interest in making Fallout related messages, it was a test. --User Avatar talk.png 08:01, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed, but it was just a test. And as far as kickban messages go I'm sure it would have gotten the point across :P --233345-cartman1_tiny.gif Avatar talk.png 17:53, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the chat ban lift. :) --Gauzz Rifle ( talk · contribs) 12:20, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

CS/LR templates
They can be removed. They are not really needed anymore. Jspoel  18:39, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox
It will be possible to create infobox for example infobox faction without screen or button "upload image"? I mean, if I now write "empty" there is still button, what looks badly. : ( Anyway, great work with this improvements. --Languorous_Maiar 21:21, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thanks.<Br> --Languorous_Maiar 21:35, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox creature
Yep, that was what was pretty much agreed upon during the discussion of the layout. From what I have seen of creature pages, only these 2 are actually in use as well. But since robots also use the same template, it might be an idea to keep affiliations for some cases where it is in use. Other than that I cant see to much use for the others, but I am not to familiar with the pages for the older games e.g. FOBOS etc. User Avatar talk.png 12:24, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

Capitalization
Question, is there a exact reason for not capitalizing the first letter of any of the words in the left column of an infobox? (Note, just the very first, ie; Used by and not Used By) -- Light Daxter -  Talk  13:15, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

Need some help on these requirments
Hi Porter just wondering, does the chat moderator and moderator share the same requirements?, i am aware that the requirments for a moderator is 500 edits and 2 months of activity but does that count for chat moderators as well or do the chat mods have a diffrent set of requirments?. The Netherealm awaits for you 12:50, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Moderator/Rollback
Hi, I saw your comment on my moderator request form. I've thought about it, and maybe it's just best that I apply for rollback status as it seems I haven't met the requirements for a moderator. How do I go about doing that? Thanks, 13:49, October 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you, that would be awesome if you could check on that.

21:38, October 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * I mean I just wish the moderator position wasn't so chat based, and if it is going to be, it should say on the requirements:P

Moderators
Personally I would just give them to the actual moderators. Ausir(talk) 14:59, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thats what I thought when the rank was made, the issue needs to be cleared up. Those with chat mod statues already (but not a mod) also need to be addressed. Users with just rollback rights honestly don't bother me. Rollback doesn't actually give anyone anything they cant do on a normal account, it just saves them 2 extra clicks of the mouse. I honestly thing we need an (by appointment only, to save all the voting and waiting) position for those users and add in the patrol rights. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png  16:45, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

World object template
Hey Porter; nice to see you back. I was having a bit of trouble with the Howitzer page. As you can see, the image takes up way to much room, but when I attempted to resize it with the |px parameter, it didn't work. Could this have anything to do with your new infobox design? --Kastera (talk) 22:56, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Never mind, Jspoel made it |image size rather than |px. Crisis averted. :P
 * I thought the infobox wasn't supposed to able to be oversized by images? User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 23:36, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that is going to be the best solution for those images. As for the gallery style grad, a grid would be more beneficial to the reader (who dont know about clicking on the actual image to expand the view), as many pictures in a line can get rather small with the exponential reduction in size. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 14:26, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox weapon
Hello, Porter. I've noticed an issue with Infobox weapon.

On the page Flamethrower (Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel) there are two images: Flamethrower FalloutBOS.gif and Flamethrower FalloutBOS.png.

Currently PNG is in the gallery but if I try to add it as a main picture in the infobox, the image goes there in its actual size (699 × 612 pixels).

Can you please see what can be done. Thanks! :) <font face="Segoe Script">veryblackraven 07:22, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

User page redirects
The ones I deleted wasnt from a rename. The account was renamed from 'The nemisisx' to 'The Nemisisx'. The one I deleted was 'The nemesisx', which was a redirect put in place by the user, causing a double redirect from the recent user rename. User Avatar talk.png 14:18, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol, just as I was typing back to you. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 14:19, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Appearances
Ah, my apologies. I just thought it was the standard layout for pages. To clarify, what pages should have appearances sections? 03:15, October 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Porter. I'll remember that for next time! :) Yes Man default.pngUser Avatar talk.png


 * Just an FYI, my bot removes this section on any page that contains the respective infobox (Infobox ammunition|Infobox armor gamebryo|Infobox weapon gamebryo|Infobox consumable|Infobox item). So any additions will eventually get removed. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 11:26, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Edit
Hey! Thanks for that Fallout Series edit and suggestion; wasn't really sure where I should have posted that. Ashley Faith 15:27, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

My template
Porter, why have you deleted it? It was really heavily used when LR, GRA and CS came out. I saw it on nearly every page after GRA was released, and I didn't even really add it myself... Could we not have a forum, because I would say that it did catch on... Look forward to hearing from you. 17:17, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey Porter. I caught this conversation on the activity feed and just wanted to say that I used the icon needed template several times. It's really useful when a page has an image but no icon, which happened a lot when the add-ons were released. BILLYOCEAN Wanna talk? 17:57, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot Porter. I can promise you now that I'm not just saying it either :). See you around mein freund ;). TheGuardianCalligraphy.pngGuardianoftheWastesTag.png

Dead Money Quotation
Rolled back now since it has adverse effects. User Avatar talk.png 22:35, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Are we allowed to add attributes to this div by any chance? or should we even bother knowing what Wikia is like? User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 23:31, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I kinda figured that afterwards. Knowing what Wikia are like with there ads, it doesn't surprise me in the least bit. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 16:00, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Is now showing as a unused template for transclusions (still a couple of links to it), I assume the infobox/s that where using it have been converted to the new ones, so does this now need to be removed? User Avatar talk.png 16:06, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Armor page conversion
Noticed the armor pages have gotten the new look. Is it possible the images use a little more of the infobox?. There's unused space above the head (has probably to do with the icon). Jspoel  16:27, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * It looks better now. I'm happy with it. Good work on all the infobox templates. Don't now what we'd do without you. Guess use old-fashioned templates, like on my wiki. Any chance you'd help me a bit with that in the future? Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 16:51, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey thanks, I'll sure keep that in mind!

Infobox weapon gamebryo
You are not going to like it, but a lot of people are pushing for things like weapons mods etc. to be added to the infobox. And show the modified stats the same way perks currently does. I keep getting people asking if this or that can be added.

I was going to wait until after the infobox project was done, then open up a forum post on the subject. Asking if perks should remain and we add the rest of the modifiers that affect weapon stats. Or, move them all out of the infobox and create a new section and template in page. User Avatar talk.png 16:58, October 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * With the amount people request or want to keep adding (just had a look through some of the requests, they want perks that affect carry weight, crit damage and so on also), I am defiantly in favour of a separate template, for the simple fact that the infobox would end up being longer than any page content (even on the biggest weapons pages). Just need to figure a layout to put forward that will accommodate the info, but not clash with the infobox on pages with little content. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 23:42, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Promotional crossover content
Hello, Porter. Can you please look at this forum topic? Your opinion would be highly appreciated. <font face="Segoe Script">veryblackraven 07:17, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Weapon mod images
Jspoel just brought up the same issue I did with the icon image overlaying the main image. So I have made a modification to Infobox item template, to allow the overriding of the default 15px offset of the icon. If this is ok, can you also let Jspoel know as well, since I left them am message no to use it in other cases (other than the example he brought to my attension) until you give the go ahead. User Avatar talk.png 19:46, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, offsetting the bottom as well would balance the image within the infobox. But, I don't think you would need it to be the same value as the upper one, you might be able to get away with half the value of the upper offset for the lower offset. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 19:22, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Brilliant person
The end of this person's userpage might interesting you... <.< hugs <font color= "Purple"> "Say 'ello to my little friend!"

Poll
Thank you so much for your help on the polls! I would be lost without you. A fine example for my lack of knowledge towards wiki markup language. I've given you the credit due at the bottom of the poll. Thanks, Kastera (talk) 13:27, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox item parameters
All seems logical, I would go ahead with it. User Avatar talk.png 19:15, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Vandal
Just reverted a vandalism on the Fallout: New Vegas exploits. Go see the page history for the vandal's I.P. --<font face="Segoe Script">ezioauditore (Animus Inbox · Memories) 07:00, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Re: New infobox & images
Thanks. I'll read the topic. I should pay more attention to forum. <font face="Segoe Script">veryblackraven 13:29, November 1, 2011 (UTC)