Forum:Character stats

I think that, at least for FO3 and FNV, we should remove character stats (SPECIAL) taken from the GECK from infoboxes. It is clear that they were, for the most part, randomly assigned and have no in-universe nor gameplay significance. Just look at the ones of Caesar or Owyn Lyons, for example. The ones in FO1 and 2 seem to actually fit the characters, so I would leave them there. Ausir(talk) 18:31, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd agree except for the possible reason that the info could be valuable to people using console commands to mess around with things. But that's the only objection I would have.--Gothemasticator 19:25, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * The info can be useful to modders and the like, so it can be moved to some other place in the article, but I would remove it from the infoboxes at least. Ausir(talk) 19:43, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd remove them entirely for all chars which are not companions. If you want to mess around with the console, you can get the original values just as easily as you can modify them; modders will be using the GECK anyway and thus have access to the values anyway. -- Porter21 (talk) 00:21, November 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Can they be removed by a bot? Ausir(talk) 14:28, November 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure. Before we do that, we should consider whether we should move the interaction tables into the infoboxes as well though - it would eliminate a bit of double-listing (e.g. quests) and avoid collision issues in the FaceWikiShack skin (as we discussed in Forum:Creature stats). -- Porter21 (talk) 13:30, November 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd keep the interaction tables separate. Ausir(talk) 16:06, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Dunno, I quite like the way UESP has integrated pretty much the same info into their char infoboxes (see e.g. here). The interaction tables are some of the templates suffering most from Oasis due to lack of space; a rework is in order either way, and adding the info to the infoboxes seems like the most elegant solution to me at the moment. -- Porter21 (talk) 17:26, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't this require separate character infobox templates for different games? And this would be a mess for multi-game characters, in my opinion. They make sense at the beginning of the section that summarizes interactions with the character, and they don't clash that much with infoboxes. Even on pages where they're next to the infobox, they don't look that bad - e.g. Johnson Nash. Ausir(talk) 00:31, November 30, 2010 (UTC)