Forum:Human/Pure human debate

Of late, there have been a lot of problems regarding whether or not some characters are human or pure human, and this terms connotations with regard to the Enclave. It only makes sense to have people debate this, and whether or not pure human should even be included. My chief reason for bringing this up now is that there has been a lot of confusion for new editors: one might see it changed from one to the other, and thus join someone-higher-up's 'faction' so to speak. Thus, I feel it is time for this debate to come off of talk pages and into the forums. 19:40, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

I'd say all those who are preserved (like the Vault Dwellers) from the radiation, they can be consindered as pure. If we are putting Pure Human as race (or even category), we need to put it like this: Human (pure), as we can put Human (cyborg). But it is not yet approved by some administrators... yet. 94.253.131.234 18:50, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I would personally think that 'Pure' Human should be left specifically for Enclave members; they have the idea in their heads that they're far above the Vault dwellers even, so you can't even call all unmutated humans 'Pure' by Enclave standards. Nitty Tok. 19:46, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Please see the talk page for Human and read the Pure and Rewrite sections. This subject has been discussed and decided on. We will not designate characters as "pure" human. It was a fiction dreamed up by the Enclave with no truth to it.--Gothemasticator 20:58, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree. "Unpure" is just a term coined by the Enclave in order to conform with their ill-placed superiority complex. Basically anyone who has stepped outside is "tainted" in the eyes of the Enclave. Still makes me wonder how they can have such a large military force if all of their soldiers have been tainted by the wasteland air. --Kastera (talk) 00:49, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Even if it's imaginary actually not according to them, almost all wear power armor and the time they remained in the wasteland is not large enough to "contaminate" them. Anyway, Gothemasticator says everything. For the rest also me, Ausir and Tagaziel are agree to say that the Enclave lies and it's just propaganda. Itachou [~talk~] 11:04, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * The Master also talked about "Prime Normals", so this isn't an enclave only thing." Agent c 10:50, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the Master call the less contamined humans "pure strain humans" and the Lieutenant "prime normals", but it's just a manner of speaking that has nothing to do with the "pure" and "non-pure" sense of the Enclave, separating them into two different species (you can see that the vault 13 dwellers and the Arroyo villagers were separated in the Oil Rig). Also, the Master and the Lieutenant never used the word "non-pure" and use the word "normals" for talk about humans. Itachou [~talk~] 16:29, October 5, 2011 (UTC)