Talk:Tomato

Extinction
they only seem extinct in the capitol wastes and commonwealth. the rivet city lab has very few fresh crops in 2277, and they're worth more than a persons life--Legofan94 15:16, 19 September 2017

They only seem extinct because they haven't been seen or mentioned in FO3 and FO4. They have appeared and been mentioned in FO1, 2, and New Vegas, which by definition means that they are not extinct. As for Rivet City, nothing states that it is the only source of food in the region. IIRC its the only source of hydroponically grown, radiation free food there.

Furthermore the Capital Wasteland is not typical of the wasteland as a whole, but rather a heavily devastated region like the Glowing Sea. One can argue that there is far more going on geologically and environmentally to keep it this way for that long.

Also the BoS (Ed) has the capability to do DNA testing, they mention so with the Danse reveal. --Ant2242 (talk) 19:34, 19 September 2017 (UTC)


 * When I said "extinct in eastern regions" I meant to say that there has been no evidence the existence of un-mutated strains of tomatoes growing wildly in the capitol wasteland, commonwealth, pitt, point lookout, nuka world, or far harbor, which is true. With no evidence of a fresh tomato existing east of Nevada, the claim of it's extinction cannot be fairly judged false, and unless it can be easily disputed, lore is canon.


 * We have an in universe source of the Prydwen senior botany scribe claiming that as of 2287, un-mutated potatoes and tomatoes are extinct. Due to their rank, and lack of familiarity with Commonwealth botany, they must have lived in the Capital Wasteland. According to the Rivet City Council meating minutes, the Rivet city hydroponics lab was the only reliable source of clean vegetables in the Capital Wasteland, which is . The hydroponics lab was staffed by only 3 scientists in 2077, chief scientist Madison Li, chief botanist Janice Kaplinski, and botanist Anna Holt. Janice was executed by Enclave soldiers in project purity; Anna defected to the Enclave, refused to escape when confronted by the Lone Wanderer, and died in the explosion of raven rock; and Li abandoned her work on project purity once it was Commandeered by the Brotherhood of Steel. This left the Rivet City science lab empty, and some years later the rivet city reactor was stripped out to power the Prydwen. following the events of fallout 3, the Rivet City hydroponics lab had no science personnel to grow new vegetables, eliminating the only source of clean vegetables from the Capital Wastelands.


 * From the perspective of a brotherhood scribe in the capital wasteland, writing a report 10 years after the events of fallout 3, there is no evidence contradicting the claim that potatoes and tomatoes are extinct. If you disagree with the accuracy of the word extinct in this context, since they are alive and well in western regions of america, it can instead be stated that clean tomatoes and potatoes "Have never been seen growing wildly in regions on the East Coast." Legofan94 (talk) 16:38, 20 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Watsonian: Local extinction is possible, however we also must take the possibility that the writer was out of their mind on that experimental tea. Doyalist: Or the possibility that the writer of that terminal didn't know about either plant and just merged the two. Also I'm going to leave this link – Retroactive continuity (Fallout 4) – the section on the potato is just as valid for the tomato.--Ant2242 (talk) 12:39, 21 September 2017 (UTC)