Talk:Still in the Dark

Vault 22 4th level staircase blocked.
Someone needs to explain that the staircase to the 5th level pest control is blocked.

Difference between Elder McNamara and Elder Hardin?
Does anyone know what is the difference in result for letting Hardin oust McNamara? He mentions that he will let the Courier ally with the Brotherhood, but I was hoping to find out what the quantified effect is (rewards, karma, reputation, etc). --96.248.39.87 17:54, October 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Storywise: with McNamara at the wheel, a truce with the NCR is available and together they'll fight the Legion. Hardin won't entertain the idea.ComaDivine 11:10, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

A Revision to the bug list
I was just going through the still in the dark quest and ran into the bug with Hardin. I discussed the Chain with him and found I couldn't talk to him about the first set of holotapes. I then went to Elder McNamara and got the next part of the quest and then went back to Hardin and the ousting Elder McNamara option was open. I don't really think this is a quest breaking bug just a little glitch. Perhaps someone should update the page.

Reply: Newbie here, just continue with the quest- it will resolve in the end naturally.

The Computer Virus
Anyone else unable to complete the computer virus section? I'm glad it's optional at least, although you can't overthrow the current elder without it. I even downloaded a mod to extend the amount of time you can check the computers, and checked every computer twice and found nothing. 173.25.90.129 08:15, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * I found all three of the computers (on Xbox) and it won't finish. 67.183.151.247 22:32, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you run out of time it doesn't automatically reset, you need to talk to the scribe again to restart the event. I had one terminal found at the 10 second mark and was able to check 3-4 more terminals in that time and complete the event successfully - remember, time while the terminal window is showing doesn't count against you. -- 22:55, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you use your 70 science skill and partition the virus it will not work.

I used my science skill to suggest partitioning. Once you find and partisan off one of the 3 viruses, it stays partitioned. Then you must locate the remaining viruses. My first attempted partitioned out 2 of the 3 and I spent 30 minutes trying to find the third. It's frustrating and I believe time spent reading the terminal does count toward your 1 minute timer. (xbox) 10/29/10 @1:55AM EST.

I took some turbo so I could move between the terminals more quickly RedVideo (talk) 06:55, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Help
I have the password, but everytime I use it, they send a squad of BoS soldiers and turn me into swiss cheese.86.42.206.36 22:03, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Don't they ask you to hand over your gear? They did that with me. They told me to hand over everything I had or I'd be ventilated. So I did as they asked lol. Once you say the password, just stand at the door and do nothing. One of the paladins will come out and talk to you. --94.171.184.82 21:25, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Are you wearing any armor or clothing that disguises you as an enemy of the BoS? If so, just go naked.

Nellis
I can't find the Paladins at Nellis. The quest marker leads me to a flat spot in the middle with no craters near it.
 * There's just one, and she's in one of the ruined buildings in the area where the artillery gun fires. -- 22:56, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * I saw a youtube video of where they are, and when I went there, they were gone.67.183.151.247 23:01, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * There are two Paladins at Nellis. You may need to look around a little, the Artillery has a knack of blowing shit everywhere. --Webley 09:47, October 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * The paladins are not at Nellis. They are in those destroyed houses before you get near the gate. The problem is the artillery fire. One of them was bouncing in the air when shells hit.

I didn't have any problems with this myself. One of them was lying in the middle of the crater, the other was draped over a bit of broken wall not three metres away from the first.--94.171.184.82 21:27, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Based on my current game, I believe that the secret behind the mystery of the missing Nellis paladin(s) is a question of quest items. Since the paladins by Nellis and the paladins by favorite centaur Moe are outside, they're subject to corpse decay. Of course, the game never lets a body carrying a quest item decay. As a result, if you aren't quick about picking up the holotapes, the other paladins will have already decayed by then. If, however, you use a mod that removes the "quest item" tag from the holotapes (such as the one I needed in order to ditch those bloody Great Kahn Supply Cache items), that means all the paladins are allowed to decay, taking the holotapes to the null pile with them. In case anyone is curious, the codes for the discs are 0015D9DB (Repconn), 0015D9D8 (Nellis), and 0015D9D9 (Moe). --Calemyr, 216.114.234.93 21:39, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Completing Both Sides
I actually got mine to complete both the Hardin and filtration system quests, after i was done with the whole quest itself. After getting my power armor training, I went and talked with Hardin again, and low and behold i was able to give him the evidence he needed, and got 1100 exp right then and there. Can anyone else confirm this? --Papertreeprophet 22:48, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

I did the same thing and got the same reward you did!--Jcj83429 00:20, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Elder McNamara won't move.
I just completed the first part of the quest to get the ranger to leave, I did not tell him about the bunker, killed him, and went back. The elder talked to me and told me to meet him in the command room, he walked away, and then stopped in the middle of the hallway and won't initiate dialog saying "What I wish to discuss with you can wait until I get settled in the command room, outsider." But he doesn't go there, he just stands in the hall. I have waited a few days (ingame) and he hasn't moved at all.
 * I also has this problem but found a fix that worked for me on the PC. I would caution you to make a save before you use this method though.  Hit the ~ key to open the console and select McNamara with your mouse and enter the commands "kill" and then "resurrect" (without the quotes).  Close the console by hitting the ~ key again and he should wander off to the command room.  WARNING:  When I was testing this fix I noticed that if I closed the console after using the kill command, reopening it to resurrect him, the quest would break.  You must open the console, select McNamara, kill and then resurrect him before you close the console.

So if we're on the 360 we're boned then?


 * concur, this worked for me on the patched version, he was stuck near the medic for me **

Wild Card: Side Bets?
I've completed Still in the Dark but it doesn't update the Wild Card: Side Bets quest, all I get as an objective is to tell Yes Man that I'd rather ignore the Brotherhood of Steel. Any suggestions or clarification on how to complete the brotherhood of steel part of this quest? --There is no Team in I 10:24, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

if this quest is bugged to kill a save file
if this quest is bugged to kill a save file then shouldn't it be marked at the very top of the quest and not halfway threw? because this seems like a fairly long quest and the game likes to freeze randomly.

Filtration System part
Any save I create (PC) after collecting all the parts of the filtration system is bugged and crashes on load. Any known solution? Pretty much makes this quest uncompletable.

When I get back my stuff?
When I get back my stuff from the elder? how play without weapon etc..? thx--Beyond silence 23:42, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

You get it after you agree to help drive of the ranger in the bunker. All your items will be in a chest      just outside of the door. They will tell you on the intercom when you exit. --93.161.225.18 14:58, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

Script problem?
Here's the problem:

I go inside the bunker, meet an angry paladin who takes away all my stuff and orders me to go to the elder. The elder gives me a quest to remove the ranger, and outfits me with an explosive collar. Afterwards I stay outside the door and I cannot move, I cannot access the Pip-Boy and I don't even see my HUD. I can only stand and look around. Any suggestions?

If I go with Veronica, she doesn't help. She says something like "I'll see it through" and does nothing when those paladins take away all my items O_o. A friend of mine had similar problems, and he had to exterminate the whole Brotherhood to progress through the main quest.

95.154.168.20 10:54, November 9, 2010 (UTC)Lasombra first of all, if veronica is with you she is your key to getting in without doing all that...reload and do it over

New bug?
After finising the first part of "Still in the dark" (non-veronica method) Elder Mcnamara is bugged out. I went and told the ranger to GTFO and came back to turn in the quest. Now McNamara is just chilling by the turrets and any time I talk to him he just says "let me get settled in the command center" or some such. I've left the bunker, the zone and even slept for a week, still chilling there saying the same thing.

Joining
Anyone knows if you can join the brotherhood, if you let McNamarra stay as elder? 93.161.225.18 22:09, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Just complete the whole quest plus after you finish "Still in the Dark" talk to McNamarra again and i forgot the exact words you say but he will give you a quest to prove yourself and finish it come back talk to him and he will let you in and he will give you power armor training and some old version power armor (T-45b armor/Fallout 3 brotherhood armor) and acsess to more stuff in the shop.

2nd Paladin at Nellis?
I'm on my second playthrough and both times I've found 2 paladins at Black Rock and RepConn but only one in the rubble outside Nellis. That, plus the fact that the whole area was shelled as I made my way in, makes me think there could be another BoS body somewhere, tossed away by the shelling. On the other hand, both times the sole BoS I found had the tape on them.

So, has anyone actually found 2 BoS at Nellis? The main article says "paladins" at Nellis, and I'd love another set of armor. Servius 00:21, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

Unable to trade with Knight Torres
I've completed the entire questline with the brotherhood and even joined them and gotten the power armor but Torres still won't let me trade with her. She along with practicly everyone else still referes to me as "The outsider". I believe this may be because when I did Still in the Dark I already had found the three Holotapes and thus skiping ahead in the conversation. I tried using the Setstage command but I couldn't really figure out what entrys to use. Help would be appreciated and maybe someone could add this to the list of bugs. It seems that I'm not the only one with this problem: LINK:

EDIT: After a few hours of poking around in the GECK I found the dialogue that unlocks it. The dialogue is called "HVMcNamStorePermission" and has a result script that says "Set VDialogueHiddenValley.HVStore to 1", however running this line in the console only returns "Missing variable name in set command" which leaves me pretty much clueless. Any ideas?


 * note on EDIT: 'VDialogueHiddenValley' is a quest name, and the console function requires quest ID's . Substituting VDialogueHiddenValley with "000e327c" (include quotations) in the above console command worked for me. The console command is listed after sqv on  this page

EDIT2: After alot of tinkering in GECK I managed to make a mod (Download) that makes the dialogue option that enables vendor access independent from quest progress, thus solving the issue. I never did get the simple console command working. --Impact 12:31, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

Can't finish the quest. Bug ?
I have all parts for the air filtration and I can't give them to Knight Lorenzo. I don't have the dialogue option to do it. All I can do is to ask some questions (which is none) and say "Goodbye" to him. After reseting the quest with resetquest command in console and seting stage 40, a quest marker apears and it's telling me to return to Lorenzo which I did but I still don't have any dialogue option to finish the quest. Any ideas how to fix this ?

RE: I have the same issue. I will let you know if I find a solution. RE: SOLUTION. okay so I took an educated guess and it worked. Since this is the last thing to do in the quest, finishing the dialogue will make you be liked. So instead of going through the dialogue, just skip the dialogue by typing in:

setstage 0015d79d 100

It will say "Liked" and in the upper left it will say the quest is completed. So happy to fix a bug!

Re: Didn't want to use the code so I reverse pickpocketed the Pressure Controller and then spoke to Lorenzo again and it worked!

Bug just after starting quest
It happened just after i was taken to Elder McNamara. He isn't respondig when I want to talk to him. The objective is 'Speak to Elder McNamara'. And it happened to be impossible. I tried to kill him and ressurect, reset quest, set stage to 2, and even 100. I can't do anything that works. Any ideas?

Optional Parts to Quest?
I didn't see anything about the optional parts of this mission on the page (mobile version is what im using). Some one needs to add that in. --lazeman
 * No there definitely are optional parts of the quest, they involve getting Edgar Hardin in as Elder. Smuff [ The cake is a lie.  ] 11:18, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Missing heppa cartridges
Im standing at the locker marked on the map but nothing is in the locker now i cant complete this questline until i've found it where did it go ?? bugged?

helps
i gave the damn filters to lorenzo and went to mcnamara (siding with him) and i have waited 9 days Y the f**k wont he just give me the quest for power armour and stop telling me hes goning to lift the lockdown?do i have to wait outside?

I have the same problem, anyone know?

See the bug list on the main page, it explains it pretty well. If you partially side with Hardin, sometimes you get stuck in a loop between the two. Thebigschnoz 19:59, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Happened to me too, dam im stuck now. mc namara wont leave he'll just sit on his ass and say he's preparing some sort of defence against hardin, and i cant get the power armour training... BTW have you guys fixed it? --Adam Sizzler 10:09, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Holotapes stuck.... (ps3)
I've completed the quest and have found the holotapes still in my inventory. I can't get rid of them and I'll have to keep them until the end of the game, which is quite annoying. Not sure what caused this.

REPCONN Intruder Alert bug
I have come across a little bug where the Maintenance bot will sound an alert with no provocation. I believe this happened when I first entered the building and refused the tour. I proceeded to hack the first terminal and have my face recognition inserted into database, then picking the lock and looting the first door. I went up to the second floor and withing 3 seconds the monitor bot questioned me. I didn't have INT 7 so i was SOL. Even though I hacked the terminal on that floor and input my facial recognition, when the 30 seconds were up I was immediately attacked. I tried to use a stealth boy as soon as I entered the 2nd floor, but the bot still saw me. Next, I decided to just go downstairs and start the tour, but I was unable to reach the Tour Bot because of the maintenace bot sounded the alert for some unknown reason. So I tried to just leave and wait 8 hours just outside of the REPCONN Facility, and I was still attacked a few moments after I walked back in. I tried leaving to another area for 8 hours, coming back and entering the building, yet was still attacked.

SOLUTION I finally found a solution: Enter the building crouched, when the maintenance bot comes toward you, you will focus on it, but no dialogue will appear. Kill it quickly (One-Shot), or if you have the robotics expert perk, just disable it. I was able to take the tour and move along freely on the first floor. 70.176.104.133 12:00, November 29, 2010 (UTC) Rocko go in the building at 10 am.... go directly to the planetarium.. go thru the door in the back, you might have to pick it...go up the stairs and get millet's first floor access. goto the first door on the right where you came in and the very first desk to the left. hack the comp to do a face recognition

End Game Cinematic - No Brotherhood of Steel? (no spoilers)
In responding, please refrain from posting Spoilers.

I finished New Vegas the other night and noticed that the Brotherhood was sorely missing from the end cinematic, yet more minor characters got specifically mentioned. I did complete the Still in the Dark quest, and expected some sort of aftermath from my decision from this quest, but nothing? Did anyone else get a cinematic? If not, then perhaps the lack of BoS implies future involvement in DLC? (could be interesting to see a New Vegas Strip vs. BoS DLC). --Ayumix 15:56, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

i did get a minor one for veronica saying that she was awe struck about the bunker blowing up, otherwise nothing else. --Adam Sizzler 10:08, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reward Footlocker
The footlocker is red to me. when i take the spent energy cells i get negative karma. Any fix console or otherwise?

Ranger death by radio hurts NCR rep.
According to the article, rigging the radio to explode and kill the ranger doesn't affect my karma or NCR fame, I decided to go that route cus I wanted his armour, but when it blew up my rep changed from Accepted to Mixed. Is this just me or does the article need to be changed? 216.232.238.83 23:44, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Lock Pick difficulty on bunker entry door.
Ive played through this game 3 times now and each time the lock difficulty on the door to the BOS bunker has always been very hard(100), (NOT hard(75) as the article states.) Anyone else confirm, or is it my game?. Thanks 86.162.138.175 15:10, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Im sure it's very hard, i went there couple of times and it's always 100--Adam Sizzler 10:02, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Quest completed but elder wont respond
Ive waited weeks after completing the quest but McNamera doesnt update, all he says is that same thing. Why wont he give me the next quest?

Because straight after talking to him to finish the quest, you went to hardin and tried to overthrow mc narmara. it happened to me too, all you can do now is to get power armour training from enclave if that's what you were looking for. --Adam Sizzler 10:03, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

I've gotten the same bug and I didn't try to overthrow McNamara. Kalorus 22:50, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

I'm getting the same bug. The key difference is talking to McNamara does not complete the quest for me. However, talking to Hardin may complete the quest. However, that is not the path I am choosing. Please advise. Cyune 02:52, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

McNamera Hostile
I talk to the intercom and is says to wait for McNamera to come and evaluate me on Still in the Dark but she doesn't come up. I stole the key of one of the guards when you first enter and get captured and I used that to get inside. When I go inside, McNamera attacks me and doesn't talk to me. How can I talk to her without being attacked?

Solution to the McNamara/Hardin problem
After finding the holotapes and completing the air filter fetch quest, I got stuck in the bug where neither McNamara nor Hardin would talk to me and I couldn't progress any further. I saw the mod that fixes this, but I really wanted to help McNamara more than Hardin. Anyway, long story short, I read the "Eyesight to the Blind" page and saw there was a console command to force this quest to start. I tried it, and it worked! Wh00-hoo!

Here is is:

set "000E327C".LockdownLifted to 1

ive done all the still in the dark quest and have ousted mcnamara but when i talk to hardin he says come back in a few days and it will be sorted, ive waited ages nothing has changed what do i do (xbox)

I've tried this console solution and it worked. I think it should be added to the Bugs section in the article - this problem is pretty common as I read talk page. Mesqalito 03:55, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Can't complete the quest, Everyone goes hostile!
I returned to the base after dealing with the ranger, but now for no reason, they all go hostile therefore I cant complete the quest, even if I can kill them, i don't know how to get rid of the collar, is their a command that removes the collar or a way to make an enemy non-hostile?

Did you take his armour or go in with a hostile enemies armour (they're hostile to NCR rememebr they fought over Helios One) --90.220.126.225 01:25, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Update on bugs please respond.
On Xbox 360, there was a bug on Still in the Dark about ousting McNamara after fixing the air filtration syst. The bug isn't listed the anymore. I encountered it, and I'm wondering if Bethesda fixed it. I would check, but im in the Sierra Mare right now. BTW i killed Hardin because i didnt want him to become elder. I'd appreciate it if some1 could answer.

Bobajango55 10:25, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

(PC) Completed quest, but now getting CTDs
I completed the quest normally, following the McNamara course, but since completing it my game is crashing to desktop. First, it happened a minute or two after I left the bunker (I'd started Eyesight to the Blind already, and fast travelled to Black Mountain, where it crashed as soon as I started a fight with some mutants) then on the save files (auto and quick) that I'd made since - they would CTD when loading. I didn't complete it all in one go as the article suggests (didn't see the article until afterwards). It seems to be having a problem whenever combat is initiated Has anybody else experienced a similar problem? 91.106.56.72 22:43, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

(PC) Hardin Allows NCR Alliance
v1.2 Probably a bug. I completed McNamara's holotapes quest, and the scouts quest, then started getting filtration parts (talked to Lorenzo). Then, before turning the parts in to Lorenzo (I had 2/3), I decided to help Hardin take over. After getting the third part and turning it in to Lorenzo, he tells me to speak to the Elder, but Hardin has no speech option (since the quest is already finished). However, after this, NCR soldiers remarked to me that BoS was no longer bothering NCR troops in their standard greetings. I also received the speech option to tell House that BoS have agreed to support NCR in the Hover Dam battle. I had already failed For the Republic, Part 2, so I am not sure if it would allow that quest to continue without killing BoS, but the game seems to think some type of alliance was brokered.

For the record, I was idolized by NCR from start to finish of this quest (if this matters).

NCR Infamy when rigging radio.
The article states that you won't get infamy with the NCR if you rigged the radio. Well, I did... Now they "shun" me. Boone was with me, can this have anything to do with it?--109.189.117.47 21:44, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Lorenzo Disappears
Xbox version here with patch. I've just completed the "find the scouts" portion of the quest and reported to McNamara. He told me to talk to Lorenzo and a quest marker appeared on my local map. Unfortunately, Lorenzo simply isn't there, and I can't find him anywhere else in the base. This is Bunker L2, so he couldn't be under the floor, although I did search all of Bunker L1 too.

Side Note: Before this quest I gave ED-E to Lorenzo for the related quest (ED-E My Love). ED-E went back to Primm after a few days. I never picked it back up, but got its perk back, so everything was fine. Fast forward a few days. The last time I saw Lorenzo in the bunker, I talked to him and he still had the "Let me borrow ED-E for awhile" conversation option. I selected that and lost ED-E's perk. I waited a few days. Never received a return message. I followed the "ED-E My Love" quest marker and found ED-E battling cazadores near Camp Golf. Further, though I'm not playing hardcore, ED-E was mortal and actually blown up by the cazadores. I had to reload and rush over to prevent its demise. I talked to ED-E and successfully made it a companion again. But still can't find Lorenzo, even though he has a map marker in Bunker L2.

184.91.240.243 01:45, January 11, 2011 (UTC)Ex

I have the same problem, though for me Lorenzo's quest marker is in L1 in the middle of a corridor. I've checked both above and below the floor, but he's nowhere to be found. 83.209.237.86 00:55, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Update: After I got the message that ED-E had returned to Primm, Lorenzo appeared again. I assume he was just gone while examining ED-E or something. 83.209.237.86 01:01, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

ED-E bug at entrance
I quote from the 3rd note under the 2nd paragraph in the Detailed Walkthrough section:

''Note: If entry is gained with Veronica as a companion, you are allowed a number of exceptions to the quest line. Your gear is not confiscated, the exploding collar is not placed on you, and the first quest (Below: NCR ranger) is skipped. This too happens when you have ED-E as companion and you have been invited by a paladin.''

On, I had already discovered the two paladins at REPCONN Headquarters, and thus was directed straight to Hidden Valley after receiving the 2nd message during the ED-E My Love quest. When I approached the intercom outside the BoS bunker, the only options I had were "Anyone there?" (the usual) and "They Live to Fight Another Day" (the password option). When I selected the latter, I received the same treatment described for all other methods of approach other than with Veronica and ED-E, even though I had ED-E in tow and had already received the message from Lorenzo that he wished to speak with me. I was stripped of my belongings and fitted with the explosive collar. Only after ridding the area of the NCR Ranger was I able to go and speak to Lorenzo and complete the ED-E My Love quest line. I think the final part of the above quoted note is inaccurate for and should be removed or at least modified.

Furthermore, I noticed that in the aforementioned section that a paladin asks to examine ED-E, when in fact it is Lorenzo that does so. Am I missing something? EganioTalk 04:12, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

no hepa cartridges
i have searched the entire vault and all i could was two empty lockers no other storage places is this a bug? or am i missing something?

you need to get the key to the cave. go into the cave from the 3rd floor. look for a wooden door. the locker is there. there are 2 sets opposite a chalkboard......

Frozen after completion
So... Right after from coming back from the "sacrificial chamber" in Vault 11 to find out that it won't even play when I sit down (only after I open my pip boy, talk to my companion, or press start would some music start and the screen would partially light up)... I head back to the BoS with the air filtration components to find yet another glitch.

After speaking to McNamara to complete the quest, the screen fades out but I am stuck in one place. I can't open my pip boy, jump, wait, talk, draw weapon, etc. The only thing that works is the start menu. I've tried reloading from a previous save to no avail. I also haven't encountered anybody else with this same problem.

ive got the same problem any idea what to do?

yea i have the same issue, hasn't doe on my previous playthroughs, maybe your not alowed to complete it with veronica on board?

I have the same problem to, didnt have veronica though (had Boone for part of the quest but not at the end). It may possibly be due to partially helping Hardin, then completing McNamara's quest. I cant remember where I read this though. Help would be greatly appreciated - ThatGuy

Same problem here. You can use this command code to finish the quest, not sure if you will get the safe house key though... setstage 0015d79d 100

i have a ps3 and the same thing has happened to me ive reloaded talked to companion and everything McNamara just wont talk afterwards and my guy cant move and i would love to be able to use the power armor so this is frustrating

I have the same problem on 360 i didnt help hardin at all and i had cass and dog in my party. I also reloaded and try to do it the hardin way and i finished it but same outcome as talking to mcanamara. NEED SOLUTION!

SAME PROBLEM HERE! --124.170.67.108 06:05, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

No dialog option after getting scout reports.
I talked to the three scouts to get their reports and when I went back to Elder McNamara the only dialog option I have is the ask him some questions. I tried resetting the quest but that didn't work. Doing setstage 0015d79d 100 completes the entire quest and setting it to 200 fails it, neither of which I want to do. I've tried all I can think of but I cannot continue the quest as there is no dialog option to proceed further.

I just ran into the same problem. 24.4.16.109 20:42, August 20, 2011 (UTC)mburns

Not getting as much reputation with Hardin?
Im pretty sure that you can hold the option to oust McNamara until the final stage of the quest, you may be able to even finish the quest and still oust him. I know for a fact that you can go past the fixing the ventilation system part of the quest and still have the option to oust him and put Hardin in charge.--Forerunner93 21:35, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Fixing the Lorenzo/McNamara/Hardin problem??
OK, I didn't realize I'd done something bad long ago in the game, and I've locked up this storyline. As the wiki says, if you help Hardin but then give the parts to Lorenzo, then neither McNamara nor Hardin will progress. They both say they're really busy, and come back in a few days. Forever. It was relatively early on in my gameplay and I didn't realize I'd fubar'ed it and I'm not gonna restore such an old game and work from there.

Does anyone know what the console command would be to fix this? I don't care so much which way it goes, I just wanna finish the storyline.

Hardin does not replace McNamara - Fix
http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1185851-bug-fix-sets-hardin-to-paladin-still-in-the-dark/

The above links to the console command to set Hardin as Elder, bypassing a bug in which he never actually changes leadership even though the quest to do so is completed.

I am not good with wiki formatting, please tidy this up but it is the correct fix for this particular issue.

Got holotapes, tell McNamara, takes, but no update
I was successful in getting all 3 holotapes, I come back, tell him "They're dead Jim" and get no update to the mission, it still says to hand it into him, when I talk, I still have the option to hand in, yet nothing happens except his sadness they died, I cannot carry on to stage 2 of the mission, Anyone have a way to complete this civilly? --LBraden 23:16, June 13, 2011 (UTC) I got the same problem

I have the same problem as well. McNamara responds with acknowledging that they are dead, but the quest does not update. Cyune 22:08, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

I've had the same glitch for months now. Any console command to force him to take the holotapes?

Hardin Completion Bug
So far I've done this - Allied myself with the Caesar Found out/told Hardin about the Chain that Binds Got the three holotapes

After I go to Hardin to give him the holotapes, he says it will take three days - and the quest is completed. After this, however, my screen goes black for a second, and when it returns, my HUD is gone, I cannot move, I cannot open my Pip Boy and I don't have a weapon to shoot...

I've tried waiting, I've tried all three options after giving him the tapes, I've tried giving McNamara the tapes then telling Hardin about what was on the tapes, I've tried talking to Hardin next to McNamara even... None of these have worked and I've seen nothing about a similar problem on the bugs section or this section! Help!

Edit: Oh, and I'm on PC!

one extra Holotapes glitch
When I'd found the scout overlooking NCR prison he gave the holotape but before I met him I see him up on a hill I talked to the traveling band of Great Khans then got warning of getting a Holotape then I look after getting the NCR PrisScout Holotape Then I realized I had a extra tape. is this fixed on the ps3 version, which I have?

Game Freezes When Collar Equipped
Greetings,

I'm here primarily to report a new bug in this area. I came to the bunker with the intention of finishing the quest "ED-E My Love" and it was my first time visiting the area. In addition to ED-E as a companion, Cass is also with me. I am able to proceed into the bunker with equipment sized, and speak with the Elder, but as soon as he equips the collar, the game freezes. I reloaded the save, but it froze a second time as well at the exact same spot. I don't know if anyone else has had this issue, but it probably should be added to the list. I am playing on the XBOX 360, have all DLC, and have the latest patches at the time of this message. --71.214.203.118 01:56, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Went and did some other things, then came back later, without Cass, but still with ED-E. The game froze at a slightly different point this time. Instead of freezing at the exact moment of collar equipping, it froze during whatever loading transition there was supposed to be. I reloaded and decided to give ED-E the "wait" command *outside* the bunker. This time, it did not freeze. --71.214.203.118 05:50, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Brotherhood of steel is hostile
I have no reputation with the Brotherhood of steel there not showing up on my pip boy but after i got the parts from the vaults the BOS are hostile towards me I tried to use console commands and they didn't work to make them Peaceful and i tried to see if veronica would make them peaceful but that didn't work either.

Are you wearing NCR or another factions armour? Is Lazy 19:05, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Dialog bugs?
When I collect all parts for the filtration system and go back to Elder McNamara, I can tell him "I found his dead body in Vault 22, here's the holotape". Also, when I speak to Ibson, he screams at me "FIND THOSE TERMINALS" while in the dialog box, the dialogs are normal. After he screamed at me, I can answer "I had better ones". What the hell is wrong with my quest? I play on Xbox. --Felix. 18:59, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Question
How do you stop the boomer from bombing you? Finchelfanno1

does any one know whaT to do when you first get to the elder he wont talk to me and neither will veronica