Talk:Lyons' Brotherhood of Steel/Archive 1

2257 - count with Sarah age - she was 7 when arrived, in 2277 she is 27--dotz 06:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Where was there any mention of Sarah's age? All it says in the diary is that she's now a grown woman. Ausir 07:40, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * mistake--dotz 13:27, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Explain your undos, please.--dotz 13:27, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The only real inconsistency here is the War Department. As for Sentinel, the rank might have been created at any moment in the 115 years between FO1 and FO3. As for soldiers, even in FO1 BoS characters use the word "soldier" from time to time. John Maxson about Rhombus: "{242}{Gen_56}{Rhombo's been here a long time. A bit stiff, but a helluva soldier.}" And Knights also occasionally performed external duties. From Vree's autopsy report: "This is truly amazing. Some of the Knights on a patrolling expedition came across an unusual creature." Ausir 13:21, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Under Armor clothes are still new thing for us and are worth to be mentioned/described--dotz 13:50, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think they deserve a separate article or a mention here - a mention in Capital Wasteland Brotherhood Power Armor is enough. Especially if it's only something from early concept art that might never actually appear in the game itself. Ausir 13:57, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

"underarmor - this is not the T-51b, but another PA model, so it's not an inconsistency" Well,
 * as far as I remember above statement was speculation - we do not know what model is PA present at F3 (as well as its designers I'm afraid),
 * despite of two possible PA models features at van Buren (demo) - PA image present there has blue "head part".

TBC--dotz 05:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Emil did say it's not T-51b, didn't say which model yet. And the only PA images from VB that were released were of the T-51b. There are no known images of T-45d. Ausir 12:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * There are some connections with T-45d also - see what Corporal Armstrong said to late Citizen (vB demo). I can agree, that demo used T-51b pictures and equipment description from year 2253 in year 2077.
 * In F3 appears more sofisticated underarmor then T-51b blue one (wires, metal elements). Question of its color is secondary of course, however it coud be confirmed by guys who saw F3 demo.--dotz 08:08, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe instead of listing that here as inconsistency, better put it at Capital Wasteland Brotherhood Power Armor as simply a list of differences with T-51b? Ausir 01:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Should the "The Expedition" section of this article be amended to mention the Pitt, the Scourge, etc? I'd do it myself, but worry I'd be overstepping. (Also, one of these days I'll get a proper wikia account, promise.) 71.220.202.122 10:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Expedition
How are we sure the Brotherhood recieved reports on Supermutant activity? How did they? There is an entire continent between the West Coast and the East Coast. There is no internet, America was nuked to shit.


 * This is a good question.
 * I'd imagine by 2077 there was radio technology advanced enough to send radio signals across continents. And, if anyone were to have them it would be the Brotherhood (or enclave or those people in SF)


 * You didn't answer who, how, when and WHY would send such a message across the continent. And yes, there was sufficently advanced radio technology. What you completely ignore is that after nearly two hundred years, it'd break down without maintenance. http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/5/5c/Scribe.jpg/15px-Scribe.jpg Tagaziel (call!) 07:32, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * In all fairness, you didn't ask who, when and why. Also, have you drawn a blank about the constant, WORKING Ham radios you find ingame? Jakkhali 14:22, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't ask, because it's obvious there is no answer available. It's a flimsy excuse to have the Brotherhood in the game. Also, are you trying to explain an inconsistency in the game with other inconsistencies in the game? http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/5/5c/Scribe.jpg/15px-Scribe.jpg Tagaziel (call!) 15:18, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * What? How are HAM radios an inconsistency? Jakkhali 20:54, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

"Possible influences" section
Shouldn't this rather be in the Brotherhood of Steel article? As far as I can see, the similarities apply to the previous incarnations of the BoS just as well and not only specifically to the CW branch. The whole Arthurian theme the CW division has going would probably better fit here. -- Porter21 (talk) 12:41, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

The Enclave
I wish there was a way for evil players to join forces with the Enclave. It's almost as if the game forces you to work with the Brotherhood. I hate the Brotherhood because they're so boring. Not enough tech. The Enclave has the awesome Tesla Armor and Deathclaws. I was so glad when I blew up their base in Broken Steel. FawkesGamer360 20:52, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't start this crap again. Fat Man Spoon 20:59, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Capital Wasteland BoS : Current Status
"The war with the Super Mutants – a conflict that has continued unceasingly for over twenty years – rages on, and the Brotherhood is feeling the strain of this extended conflict. Without reinforcements from the West Coast, Lyons has been forced to recruit locally, and the results have been less than stellar: most new conscripts are overeager, unskilled, or both, and as a result their survival rate is atrocious. So low, in fact, that word has spread throughout the Capital Wasteland – join the Brotherhood of Steel, and you’ll be dead within the week. "

Is there any info to support the survival rates and rumors of high mortality? —Preceding. Please sign your posts with ~ !


 * It's a direct quote from a dev diary. Should probably be referenced properly. -- Porter21 (talk) 10:52, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Current Status section is waaaaay off-topic.
The current state of the "Current Status" is, IMO, very off-topic. It goes into lengthy detail for the Main Quest, and doesn't focus on what the topic of the article is: the Capital Wasteland BoS. For instance...

"Meanwhile, the Wanderer locates the GECK, but is unfortunately captured by agents of the Enclave, and the GECK is installed in the Purifier. He is then interrogated by Colonel Autumn for the activation code, but is interrupted by President Eden, who requests a meeting with him/her. Unfortunately, Colonel Autumn soon orders the Enclave soldiers to attack the Wanderer regardless of the president's orders, and the Wanderer must fight his/her way to the president. Once the two finally meet, Eden asks the player to install a modified FEV virus dispenser in the Purifier, as a way to cleanse the Capital Wasteland of all mutations so that only "pure strain" humans like those in the Enclave and the Vaults will survive. The player is forced to leave with the virus in hand, but has a chance to "blow up" Eden and Raven Rock, if he/she wishes to. "

What direct pertinence does that story portion and level of detail thereof have on an article on the Capital Wasteland BoS?

--MadCat221 04:17, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

If you kill BoS Initiates/Paladins/Knights, etc. on accident or otherwise, will the BoS become hostile and if so, for how long? -Any Mouse