Talk:Fist of Rawr

Does this weapon ignore DT/DR like the deathclaws themselves?

Deathclaws don't ignore DT/DR. Total myth. --LordVukodlak 19:42, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

Good Lord, this weapon seems potent. Exactly how far up the proverbial food-chain is it though? Best unarmed weapon, or just close to it?
 * It trades blows with the super-heated saturnite fist with pyromaniac. They both have similar realtime dps.  The saturnite fist is lighter, more durable, does a bit more damage per hit (taking into account crits) and does a fair amount more sneak attack crit damage.  Fist of Rawr has significantly better reach and does double(!) limb damage, plus ALL its animations are extremely fast (blocking, striking, power attacks), and it doesn't need a perk to reach its full potential.   No other unarmed weapon comes close to these two. Athenau 02:20, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

This gauntlet is too powerfull, I'm in love with her! :D When killing Ulysses, no matter what type of gun I use, he resisted some time and could counter-attack in manny devastated ways. With this a few blows send him to space! I tested with and without the Slayer per. If you think she's fast, try with the Slayer perk. Brfritos 06:17, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

Athenau, I'm afraid i must disagree with you, In terms of DPS the industrial hand outperforms all unarmed weapons due to it being automatic and it also ignores DT/DR. Saturnite fist super-heated 90.8; Fist of Rawr 97.8; Industrial hand 160. The Ballistic fist out damages all the unarmed weapons and as an unarmed sneak character i find it much more useful.

--Zeroo Ragnarok 15:52, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

If you have all relevant statistical advantages related to critical chance, attack speed, critical damage, and conventional damage other than Heavy Handed the Fist of Rawr comes out on top with 753 real DPS before enemy defenses; next up is the Saturnite Fist Super-Heated with 489 real DPS; third is the Ballistic Fist at 356 real DPS. Rawr wins the day if you're built the right way, which you definitely should be if you're playing close-up. The only thing the Ballistic Fist wins on is stealth assassinations, but even 240 DAM isn't enough to kill a lot of things in one hit. On the other hand, there are only about five things you can encounter in an unmodded game that can survive more than 1 second of attacks from the Fist of Rawr; Ulysses, Lanius, the Legendary Deathclaw, the Legendary Bloatfly, and the X-42 Giant Robo-Scorpion. Clearly the Fist of Rawr is the ultimate unarmed weapon that operates under normal rules.184.91.1.45 02:08, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * The industrial hand is retarded because of the crit damage mechanics. I don't know what Obsidian was thinking making its crit damage 40 when its an automatic weapon that checks for crits 30 times a second.  With a 37% crit chance and better criticals it does something like _1000_ dps (tested in game).  So yeah, if you want to run around with an instagib god hand then the industrial hand is for you.  But that's a borderline exploit, IMO.  Excluding the IH the pyro-ed saturnite fist SH and the Fist of Rawr are the two top unarmed weapons, the ballistic fist isn't even in the running, unless you don't want to get pyromaniac and you only care about sneak attack criticals.  Athenau 17:58, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * So..there's this thing called a gatling laser. It's an auto, but with the way Light Touch Laser Commander and Set Lasers for Fun work, it can get ~20% crit rate outside of VATS, where it will "retardedly" check for crits 30 times a second without being at point blank. Sure, it has a critical damage of 10 instead of 40, but then again, it actually shoots 30 times a second.
 * If you don't understand the difference between a weapon checking for criticals 30 times per second because the _actual_ fire rate is 30 times per second, and a weapon whose fire rate is 3 times per second but checks for criticals 30 times per second (and which results in over 6 TIMES the base dps) I don't know what to tell you. Athenau 02:23, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

i have the wild wasteland perk and it's still called the fist of rawr, not "north rawr"