User talk:KristofferAG/Archive 1

Delta IX Crater
Hey, Im wondering if you can help on the page, it be nice if you could.

Hey, Can you revert the changes to Delta IX Crater. I dont want it directing to another page, As this method dont give out much Information. Thanks!

Template issues
Please ask User:Porter21. He's our template expert. Ausir 21:22, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Making templates
Warning, lengthy entry incoming :-) There's a few reasons why the templates aren't working:

The first is that you need to copy the relevant bits from MediaWiki:Common.css and MediaWiki:Common.js. Now, what's necessary?

You can pretty much copy all of Common.js, you'll need what's in there for Template:Games and all of the navboxes; without it the navboxes won't collapse and the Games template won't show up in the upper right corner of pages. The very first bit holds a couple of fixes for IE6 which is (unfortunately) still a rather common browser; to get those to work you'll have to copy MediaWiki:Common.js/IE60Fixes.js as well (this file does not exist in a new wiki by default, you'll have to create a new one with that name). That's not necessary for the navboxes but is handy to have nonetheless :-)

In Common.css, you should copy everything after (and including) the following block: /*****************************************************************************************/ /* Start CSS for Fallout 3 info box: */ /* **************************************************************** */ This will copy the necessary CSS definitions (i.e. what controls the look) for infoboxes, navboxes, canonboxes and the article management templates.

Changes made to those files will not show up instantly due to wikia's inbuilt cache; it can take up to a couple of hours until the changes are actually in effect. If the background graphics still don't show then (at least it shouldn't be white anymore then though) you'll have to change the relevant paths in Common.css; if you don't know how to do that, don't hesitate to ask.

Now, unto the last bit :-) I understand you probably want to translate the field names and such for your wiki. However, you've translated some bits which shouldn't be translated as they either don't need to be changed (as your users will never see them anyway) or because they mustn't be changed because they are actually HTML tags/attributes even if they look like standard English words.

For example, in the template you've linked this would be klasse="fallout_navboks_boks. class is actually a HTML attribute which tells the browser to load the CSS definition (the stuff that's in Common.css) with that name; it won't know what klasse is supposed to be :-) fallout_navbox_box is the CSS class name and changing it is not necessary. You can do it, you will have to change it consistenly for every template you copy though and change its name in Common.css as well, which is all in all just unnecessary work for you in my opinion. Just leave the classes (and the class tags) as they are on our wiki and it should be fine. -- Porter21 (talk) 23:03, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * No problem, feel free to ask :-) Just a suggestion, I'd copy the stuff in Common.css as well; that can take hours to update and talking from experience, there's nothing more annoying than wanting to work on something and having to wait for the CSS update. -- Porter21 (talk) 23:17, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Exactly, class= and everything enclosed by quotation marks after it should not be translated. -- Porter21 (talk) 19:32, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The .js has already updated, otherwise collapsing the boxes wouldn't work :) I've taken the liberty to fix up the remaining issues with the navboxes and infoboxes (except for a slight issue with the infobox template - you didn't translate "columns" in the template itself but translated it in the example; it's what causing the header of the example Armor box not to span all 3 columns). Guess you won't mind ;) -- Porter21 (talk) 20:04, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * You're welcome :) -- Porter21 (talk) 21:28, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Should be fixed. You accidentally deleted a | in the C4 row and then copy/pasted it to the others :) -- Porter21 (talk) 08:34, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Norsk
Takk for det. Jeg visste ikke engang jeg var på den listen, det er jo koselig. Lykke til med prosjektet ditt. :-) Dcruze 22:49, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops, feil side... Beklager det ;-) Dcruze 23:27, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Vandals
I blocked both. Since you're doing cleanup work in the English wiki too, I just made you a sysop. Ausir 20:56, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Navbox group
Should be fixed now, was a combination of typos and translated CSS classes :-) -- Porter21 (talk) 01:59, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Stat Template
You forgot to translate one instance of "image_px" to "bilde_px" in the main infobox template, should work now :-) -- Porter21 (talk) 08:46, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Back to editing
You need to copy MediaWiki:Common.css as well :) Monaco.css and Monobook.css have style information for the respective website skins (Monaco and Monobook), Common.css has the style information which applies to both. Most of the template-related style information is in there. -- Porter21 (talk) 17:50, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Picture Giant Catfish and The Art of Fallout 3
Hello KristofferAG =). As I said on the talk page in question, thank you for upload the image of Giant Catfish.

Being given that you are one of only able to upload the pictures of the As I said on the talk page in question, thank you for upload the image of Giant Catfish.

Being given that you are one of only able to upload the pictures of the book " The Art of Fallout 3 ", if you could try uploading the pictures appearing nowhere but only in this book, it would be really nice.

Here is the list but there may be more, I can not say, being given that I have not the book :

Armor
 * Hyper Helmet

Creatures
 * Floaters
 * Wanamingos

Weapon
 * Mason Jar Mine
 * Piggy Bank Grenade

Thank you in advance dear friend and if you could tell me where you buy if ever you can not do this, it would be nice too. Soon and take care of you ! Itachou 10:53, October 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * I received your message and as you saw, I start creating the pages missing. I can only say a big thank you for your speed and image quality, not bad at all, really =).


 * By cons, mean that Manowar ? one of the types of Floaters has this word in its name and I do not know what it means, a create word ?


 * I'll also try to get this book. Anyway, if ever you are applying to be a administator, you have the required quality and I will vote for. See soon my friend =) ! Itachou 16:10, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ah yes, sorry I had not seen ^^. You seem to be a nice guy =). You speak a little French right ? Thank you for good luck, I still think to find in France, Paris is not too bad for this kind of thing =p. Itachou 16:28, October 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * Of course, it is widely understood don't worry, there are far worse than you ^^. There are just a few mistakes but that's normal, like me with the English.


 * It's always nice to hear that someone loves France =). Norway you, right ? My father was once there, he told me it was a very beautiful country but it was very cold ^^. I like the Nordic countries, they have a beautiful story behind them. Itachou 17:13, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Yes I guess, with snow and all =). I hope your school is not very far from your home, or else will take the car if you are allowed ^^.

Otherwise I have a small issue on the pictures, I'm not sure in the last picture the name is Wanamingo, from the letters that I hardly see, it does not seem to be an i at the end. I've said Wanamingo because it was circulating on the net and it's a recurring creature in Fallout 2, but the name is surely different. Good luck with your studies ! Itachou 17:51, October 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * Of course I believe you =) I think it has been an optical effect due to blur over the name ^^. I asked myself the question mostly because the creature bears no resemblance to that of previous games for that too. Good reading dear friend ! And do not feel obliged to take a picture =). Itachou 19:42, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Hehe, thank you again, you was very nice =). Yes, I saw the two N but I think that with one N this is the same and will be better, being given that Wannamingo page redirect to Wanamingo page and their name is exactly the same except that. And besides, it's true that he seems to be a mutated version of Wanamingo.

You have bought the Collector Edition (one with the 5 DLC is that ?) in stores ? I wondered if I had also the book in order on internet.

If, in the book, you find something else interesting, post the picture or the page if you want my friend ^^.

Well, I'm going to bed, it's late in France and it's hard after in the morning =P. Good night potos ! see you =) !

The Art of Fallout 3
Hello my friend =). Haha, you'll laugh, in fact I had already =I. I buy the collector's edition but I only took the game and leave the rest in the box. I just watched, and yes, there are many images that you had give. At least I'm glad I will not have to buy it. Good day and soon potos !

ps : Potos = Very good buddy =p Itachou 11:59, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Bots
Bots can mostly do text replacements, removals or additions; moving categories etc falls into that category. Pywikipediabot (the framework my own bot uses) comes with a module/file which allows you to do exactly what you describe.

Basically you give it the names of the old/new categories and it moves the pages from the old one to the new one. The new category will have the same parent categories etc as the old one. If the bot has admin rights, it automatically deletes the old category; if it doesn't, it places a tag in the old one. -- Porter21 (talk) 18:43, November 4, 2009 (UTC)


 * Have you downloaded pywikipedia itself yet? If so, extract it. Then make a new text file in the  subfolder of whatever directory you extracted it to, rename it to   and copy/paste the content of my bot's config page (everything inside the   tags) there. Finally, run   (via commandline) and then edit   in the "extraction directory". You only need to change the first three values in there:


 * 1) -*- coding: utf-8  -*-


 * 1) This is an automatically generated file. You can find more configuration parameters in 'config.py' file.

family = 'fallout'
 * 1) The family of sites we are working on. wikipedia.py will import
 * 2) families/xxx_family.py so if you want to change this variable,
 * 3) you need to write such a file.

mylang = 'no'
 * 1) The language code of the site we're working on.

usernames['fallout']['no'] = u'KristofferAG'
 * 1) The dictionary usernames should contain a username for each site where you
 * 2) have a bot account.
 * At last, run ; it'll ask you to enter your wikia account password so the bot can log in. If you don't want the bot to use your account, simply create another account and change the username in the snippet above to whatever name your bot account has. -- Porter21 (talk) 21:23, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * The easiest way is using the commandline. Make a shortcut to \system32\cmd.exe, then open the shortcut's properties and set "execute in" to the folder you've extracted pywikipediabot to. That way you'll automatically be in the right directory when double-clicking the shortcut. You can then enter  and it should start moving the category (the quotation marks are important, they need to be "around" the category names). Regarding the login, I can't really tell you - I set up the bot almost a year ago and have never used that file since :P -- Porter21 (talk) 22:28, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Did you create  in the   folder (with the content from my bot's config page)? Regarding the bot flag, you need to request it via wikia:no.fallout:Special:Contact (i.e. from the "no" wiki). You can also request its bureaucrat status to be taken away from there. -- Porter21 (talk) 10:00, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I didn't have to change anything else so I don't think you need to. Nonetheless, I've put the whole content of my user_config.py on User:Porter21/sandbox5 (I've only altered the language and username entries). Provided you've entered the correct username in user_config.py, you can also try login.py again. -- Porter21 (talk) 10:25, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Could you make screenshots of the folder you've extracted pywikipedia to and the "families" subfolder? -- Porter21 (talk) 12:01, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Since you said you changed, what exactly is the command you're using? Usually you shouldn't need   at all. -- Porter21 (talk) 17:06, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Apparently it's something more recent versions of the bot require - I haven't updated mine since the beginning of September :) -- Porter21 (talk) 17:28, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Need some help with Abblink
I've been away the whole weekend and only got back today - you'll need to give me a bit of time to work through the backlog of things which has built up during my absense. I can tell you that your second issue stems from not translating the inbuilt template call to Template:Abblink in Template:Infobox - but it seems you already noticed that yourself.

Regarding the first, you'll need a completely rewritten version of abblink. The whole template logic is built around the "name" string being added at the end and not at the beginning. Even if you manage to replace the output for single-game links, the output won't make sense for multi-game links. I can write a version which uses "name" as prefix and you can then translate it, but I'll need a bit of time for that.

Just as a general remark since you'll run into Template:Abb rather frequently when translating the newer templates: Stuff like  doesn't work - Template:Abb accepts only game abbreviations (FO1, FO2 etc) as input and replaces them with full game names (Fallout, Fallout 2 etc). Giving it additional text will only result in an "unknown abbreviation" error. -- Porter21 (talk) 15:03, November 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * A little issue with the "mentioned-only" option. Since that one is a proper adjective, it makes little sense to move its position, at least in English - e.g. "Character in mentioned-only" makes little sense, i.e. it'd be better to keep that one in front of the remaining string. I suppose it's the same in Norsk, isn't it? -- Porter21 (talk) 19:34, November 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * Copy over the Norsk version of Abblink (easier than replacing all template calls and I doubt you'll need the normal version again). It's identical except for inverted output and an additional parameter  for the connecting word.


 * You can then translate the parameters as usual. One thing to look out for specifically are all instances of ; the string after the   is the default word used to connect   and   (e.g. in "Weapon in Fallout", it's the "in" in the middle). You should probably exchange that with the Norsk equivalent. -- Porter21 (talk) 20:32, November 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * No problem :) -- Porter21 (talk) 15:45, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I hate to do this to you
You translated "image_px" in no:Mal:Infoboks (to "bilde_px") but forgot to translate it in no:Mal:Gjenstand ;) Should be fixed now. -- Porter21 (talk) 09:49, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Missing parameter on translation
You translated "extra" in wikia:no.fallout:Mal:Infoboks to "ekstra" (and "extra2" to "ekstra2") but didn't do the same in wikia:no.fallout:Mal:Stats. -- Porter21 (talk) 08:33, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Lists of inhabitants in cities
We have categories like Category:Megaton characters for that. Ausir(talk) 20:55, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Translating
Well, when it comes to the Polish version of The Vault, all of the Fallout games (aside from FOBOS) have been officially translated into Polish (some of them by myself). So in the wiki we just go with the official Polish translation (where names of quests, of some weapons etc. are translated). Ausir(talk) 20:43, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Have none of the games been translated into Norwegian? In that case, it's really up to you, depending on whether you think that players will benefit more from seeing the familiar English names, or whether they'll benefit more from seeing translations. If you decide to translate, remember to set up redirects from original names. Ausir(talk) 21:01, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I guess it'd be best to translate the descriptive FO1 and 2 quest names. Ausir(talk) 22:35, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Just a quick question...
Do you have Fallout Tactics? I saw your name under a forum about money and Mole Rats at the IGN forums, and I'm trying to figure out what the penalty for the Beta Software trait is. Ausir doesn't have a clue. Nitty Tok. 17:49, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

I didn't get the joke, so I'm not going to ask about it. >.<

And yeah, the information would be great. IGN, GameFaqs, what have you, they never go into detail as to what the unexpected system glitches are. I half expect that the trait makes the game crash more often. Nitty Tok. 17:57, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Riiiiight...

Don't get killed out there! Nitty Tok. 18:05, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Aww, c'mon, really?

Eh, I'll pick up the trilogy pack over the holidays and find out myself...

Thanks anyway! Nitty Tok. 21:19, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

NPC project
I noticed you edited some of the characters NPC's I've worked on. Specifically the Background sections.

In the edit summary you say:"it seems not right to copy the game guide".

I was wondering why you think that, after all the Game Guide is released as the 'official' guide under license of Bethesda themselves.

To me it seems that is the "Official" background for the character.

I'm not trying to complain, just trying to figure out your opinion so I can keep it in mind for the future so you don't have to rewrite everything after me ;)

Gunjaer 13:42, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Backgrounds copied from the guide
I just looked over Bob's page, and I'm not sure that rewriting the guide's text has resulted in an improvement. Much of the original language is still there, and there is no new information incorporated. Ausir would be the one to check with regarding the copyright concern, but I have my doubts that its a problem copying a small paragraph and sourcing it in the references section. I would suggest leaving the guide's language up and not asking Gunjear to slow down his progress in order to rewrite.--Gothemasticator 20:21, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * I've seen the relevant post by Ausir. Guide's language should be rephrased. You were right. Thanks.--Gothemasticator 21:08, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

User Categories
Well, unlike Wikipedia we generally don't categorize user pages. You can always start a discussion about it in the forum, but right now I wouldn't add categories to the userboxes. -- Porter21 (talk) 01:58, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Pastemagazine ranks Fallout 3 as third best of the decade
Next time, please don't post stuff like this (awards, toplists, reviews) as separate newsposts, these should to in the Fallout tidbits collected newsposts instead, to avoid clutter. Ausir(talk) 15:54, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

NPC project
Hi! I want to thank you for your participation in the Fallout 3 NPC overhaul project. Progress continues, and I invite you to pick up the torch again! Please visit the project talk page to see what's new and add your input.

I look forward to seeing your name on the recent edits page!--Gothemasticator 10:19, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Problem with translating plural in templates
Well, as far as I can see you've already removed the "s". Basically  is what creates the "s" plural (in plain speech, it just means "take parameter   and put an s behind it") and it seems you've removed the "s" behind the Norsk equivalent at both occurences where it's used. -- Porter21 (talk) 12:29, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Ongoing forum discussions of note
Hi! If you haven't already, please drop by the Forum:Wiki general discussion boards and join in some of the current discussions. At issue are questions of admin maintenance responsibilities, a new way of handling bug submissions, and table formatting, among others. I lool forward to continuing to work with you, especially as the coming release of Fallout: New Vegas brings us more content to create and organize. Cheers.--Gothemasticator 04:08, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Template:Stats creature FO1 bug in IE
I've fixed it here, see my changes to Template:Stats creature FO1 and Template:Stats creature FOT. Not sure whether that will fix the issue entirely for Nukapedia since they have a lot less article space than we do; you might have to adjust the column widths for "statistics", "DT/DR" and "abilities" as well there. -- Porter21 (talk) 19:01, 11 February 2012 (UTC)