Talk:That Gun/Archive 1

.223
It's so beauuuutifullllll...

I reckon that baby looks like something from the future. Hehe watch out Muties!--MPLX Fantasurge 09:28, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

But will it fire 5.56mm rounds, or specialty .223 rounds? Nitty Tok. 19:45, October 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * .223 is a commercial round, while 5.56mm is military; so probably it'll fire .223 rounds. -- 20:35, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * However, ammo redundancy may mean that .223 gets written out and 5.56mm is in instead. We'll see when FONV comes out...  --MadCat221 22:05, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Its a .223 pistol, its in name. If it fired 5.56 rounds it would be called a 5.56 pistol. Its a bit misleading saying a .223 pistol fires 5.56 rounds. --Mary roc 09:58, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

We just think its called that. We don't have an official name yet. --Revolverman 11:33, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yeh I thought of that after I posted it, why is the speculated name .223 pistol if we dont know what it is yet. 92.20.2.114 12:08, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Because we don't have anything else to call it, besides perhaps an ultra generic "Large pistol". Its a placeholder. Revolverman 12:14, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Also keep in mind that .223 and 5.56 are almost the same round, there are miniscule differences in headspacing and case dimensions, but a 5.56 chambered weapon will fire .223 and Vice Versa, however, it is unsafe to fire 5.56 out of a weapon that was designed for .223. It is perfectly safe to fire .223 out of a 5.56. Who knows, maybe this gun is called "5.56mm pistol" or "Blade Runner Blaster" ingame.--Resplendant Securitron 17:25, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

F**K YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

--sdly93@yahoo.com 00:09, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that makes more sense but still, do we actually know it fires .223 or is that speculation as well. Mary roc 07:03, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

The name is speculation. When I created the page I put that name because it's similar to the Fallout 2 gun. I don't know if it fires 5.56 or .223.

--Mr Minigun 12:35, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

The developers keep saying that guns can use multiple types of ammunition, so perhaps it uses both 5.56 and .223 depending how that system will work.--HelpMeRhonda213 19:17, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

This is soooooo confusing. A multiple ammunition system just boggles my mind around that's it's just hard for me to figure out. Torq95 23:14, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Right it could fire .223, 5.56 or both, just wait a couple of days and we'll find out. Mary roc 07:04, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

You guys do realize that a .223 bullet is a 5.56MM bullet, right? A .223 bullet will fire out of any 5.56MM gun, and vice versa. Now whether the whole cartridge fits or not is a different story, as that also factors in powder loading and shell length as well. But the bullets will transfer no problem. TestECull

Yes we know that by now. Mary roc 07:14, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe he meant that one for me. I said perhaps they will have both the .223 and 5.56. After a period of study on wikipedia I now know the bullets are mostly one in the same. Sorry for not knowing more about guns. I have very little experience in guns outside of video games. Therefore I now agree with the ammo redundancy argument and believe they will probably use 5.56 like they did in Fallout 3. Perhaps they will then call it the 5.56 pistol or something along those lines?--HelpMeRhonda213 22:43, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

pardon my mistake, removing my previous comment because i didn't read clearly and actually thought it was called "that gun" lol Toolazytomakeaaccount 08:08, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * It is called "that gun" - someone vandalized the page to put the old info back. -- 10:52, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's bull. It's a stupid name created by obviously stupid people, Sawyer has lost all that respect if he's really going to call it "that gun". :/ Nitty Tok. 00:46, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Based on what the way I read it, he's refering to it as the .223 Pistol, but that's not me. If they keep it that way, then that's probably the least imaginative name for a weapon (barring Gun) ever.--KnightNapier 00:49, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * It had better at least be unique if it's going to be called "that gun". Nitty Tok. 00:51, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

"That Gun" is Bad Ass But...
I appear not to be the only one happy to see the .223 Autoloader reborn, after it's realistic but unforgivable absence from *Fallout 3* (if they can have Jet in sealed vaults, then they can have the PKD Blaster as well). However cutesy the name, I hope it isn't actually called "That Gun" because it's also pretty dorky. The game model doesn't look as awesome as I was hoping, either. The proportions and curves are off, and there appears to be some sort of big gap added between the cylinder rear and the grip. Maybe it's just a bad screenshot for a badass handgun.

Ammo?
It might use .223 after all. I was watching a stream earlier and the broadcaster was selling stuff to a Boomer merchant at Nellis and the merchant had crafting materials for .223. see? While Sawyer said that the gun uses 5.56, there are guns in the game that use multiple ammo types. --70.72.172.87 06:52, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Location
The gun is indeed called "That Gun," and is found in the locked storage room inside the "Dino Bite Gift Shop," according to the guide: see here. -Little Robot 20:52, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Capitalization
I know there's a decapitalization project thing. But don't you think there should be an exception for this? It just looks like an incomplete sentence. I think 'Gun' should be capitalized. I know it's not a one-of-a-kind item, but because of what it's called, it seems like it should be capitalized. And, you know, it is capitalized in-game, but I know that's not part of the capitalization project. Glomulus 20:48, October 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * I thought that it was a unique item. What I've seen of the guide seems to suggest that it is unique, but perhaps I'm misinterpreting (there is only one location listed, though, as far as I can tell) -Little Robot 20:54, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

I could be wrong, but when I watched the Best Buy live feed I think Sawyer mentioned that it wasn't unique. Or maybe I was remembering something else? Either way, it should be capitalized. Take, for example, Plunkett's Valid Points or The Shocker. Glomulus 21:02, October 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * I just rewatched the Best Buy feed (the Vault 22 part) and he doesn't mention its uniqueness as far as I can tell. -Little Robot 21:47, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Unique or not, That Gun is a proper name and should be capitalized. I'll move the page.--Gothemasticator 22:17, October 19, 2010 (UTC)