Forum:Redoing 1 and 2 into the new age

I think it would be cool for them to bring back the old fallouts so people like me know how it really all began. Bring them in the new age of gaming. I have seen the screen shots of fallout 1&2 and it didnt impress me vary much. But that was in the early 90's so i cant really say they were not any good because they made Fallout 3 and New vegas.

Some one asked me if you were to make the next Fallout were would you have it take place. I said New york. But he said they already did that in the first one. which mad me kind of mad because that would be a great place to have it take place with the Tecnalogical achevment that Bethesda has acheved now. If they redid the old Fallouts i think it would sell vary well.

id like to se one made in detroit the place already looks like a waste land in some parts burnd out buildings grass growing through cracks in the road gaings every where raiping looting and stealing all the time gunshots heard in the backround lol i miss my home


 * You could actually try playing them before deeming that they need to be redone. Screenshots don't tell everything about the game, and if its the graphics you care so much about, why even game? Just walk outside and bam- Mind blowing textures everywhere!1 Voltaic Volition 15:39, December 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay since no one is gonna say it, I guess I'll have to: 1. Fallout wasn't set in New York, it was set in central California. 2. Redoing two games using the Bethesda engine would require a boatload of money and time Bethesda doesn't have. 3. Your "description" of Detroit sounds like you never even lived there and you got your information from a Lil Wayne CD. and 4. please remember to proofread. I know this is the internet and spelling isn't important, but it's common courtesy to at least be as clear as possible. MoonshadowDark

Lighten up dude! Jeez. I've played 'em both and their graphics' oldness REALLY interferes with my enjoyment. Anyway, I had the same idea OP. I think FO1&2 redone ala FO3 would ROCK! I'd also like to see a WH40k RPG given the same treatment. - Mae Hemme

One of the worst things about Fallout 'puriests'. The majority are a bunch of pretentious snobs. THE MAJORITY NOT ALL. Yeah remake FO1 and 2. BUT NOT LIKE FALLOUT 3, NO NO NO.86.164.81.148 18:36, December 18, 2010 (UTC) Sec 19

Just a reboot, so it's on PS3 and Xbox and is updated on PC. It wouldn;t 'be like F3' because the stroy and everything would more or less be the same, but that doesn't seem very realistic. 18:39, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

I'm yet to see a remake that i've liked (in gaming at least). Flat no. Go play the game - if you want pretty pictures, most art galleries are free these days. Agent c 18:41, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that doesn't reallu work. I want to play Fallout, not look at Van Goffs thanks. I don't really like the turned combat thing either, but the main part is I just want it on PS3. 18:44, December 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * if you don't want to play it in the form its intended, then you don't really want to play "Fallout". You want to play something different.  Agent c 02:54, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it's a good idea to remake the old Fallouts due to the fact that it would cost a ton of money and take a lot of time for Bestheda to produce while they could be making other Fallouts with interesting new content that hasn't been explored yet. A Fallout set in the Commonwealth would be interesting. Not to say that I won't enjoy a remake of Fallout 1 or 2.

It could make for an interesting mod. Ignore the rabid fanboys who act like this would somehow wipe the original two out of existence. --GaussRifle 17:20, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

granted many fallout purists could consider this a slap to the face, but just updating graphics is not ruining a game, but id think a mod for pc same game just better graphics, wouldn't be that bad. Sounga 02:10, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'd settle for a mod. FO3 or FO:NV? - Mae Hemme

I'd like to see a remake of FO1 and FO2 ala FO3. I agree with Mae Hemme. I played FO1 and FO2 and the graphics didn't really grab my attention. This was, of course, before FO3 and FO:NV. I think Bethesda Softworks would do an outstanding job.--Ryker6107:25, February 19, 2011 (UTC)~11:24pm 2/18/2011

Iv'e always thought redoing FO 1 and 2 like FO 3 would have been awesome but ive been to scared to say anything. I fear all of the original Fallout purist fans will find me and attack me for even suggesting it 70.179.38.132 01:35, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

I know there are FallOut purist fans out there, but I'm not afraid to speak my mind. It's not my intention to start a fight here, but let's just say for the sake of argument that Bethesda Softworks decides to release remakes of FallOut 1 and 2 designed in similar fashion to FallOut 3 and FallOut NV. The purists out there are just going to have to live with that decision. I'm entitled to my opinions, their entitled to theirs. If they don't like the remakes, they don't have to play them.--Ryker6108:44, February 20, 2011 (UTC)~12:42pm 2/20/2011.

I think what we are afraid of is probably them ruining it and leaving a very bad taste in the mouth for everyone else. Its also very, very difficult to do. Do you know how big the location for the first two fallouts was? It was massive. Its a massive chunk out of the state of california. Too big to do a Fallout 3 or New Vegas sized game, and probably a bitch to travel over.

I personally would like to see it as I want to try the games properly, with my full attention (shut up, I was 3 when fallout came out!) but the only way it could work is if the fast travel system was similar. 58.111.205.249 10:09, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

Uh, Ryker, it's Fallout, a noun, not FallOut. Try to do a little research. On the subject of remaking the originals, why? Fallout 1 and 2 are great precisely because they did not conform and refused to go real-time FPP. They are great because they're a big "Fuck You" to industry trends. They are great as they are in their current form. Play them as they are, isometric and turn based, rather than remain a close minded fool who refuses to play games that aren't first person and real time. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 10:42, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

The problem with remakes is the vast majority of them in the end update the story and the spirit of the originals are changed. I can cite endless examples, but look at Doom 3. The old Doom's were kick ass games at the time, but the 2004 remake changed the spirit of the firsts, turning a rather puzzled and uterelly funny game in a PoS "survival horror", with dull maps and boring gameplay. And it's from the same company!!! Peter Jackson's King Kong from 2005 was highlly praised not only because the special effects, but because he maintained the original spirit of the first 1933's King Kong (unlike that crap from the 1976). Or look at the original "Assault on Precinct 13" from John Carpenter and then compare with the remake from 2005, it's a shame what they did with the story and the setting. Kudos for the 10 year old girl asking an ice-cream in the first movie and getting in return a 44 Magnum bullet in the chest. LOL I don't believe that Bethesda have the balls to preserv the spirit of the firts Fallout games. Brfritos 12:05, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

As I previously indicated I'm not trying to start an argument here. I don't appreciate being called a closed minded fool. I'm 32 years old and I've been playing videogames my whole life(I'm not claiming to be an expert on the subject). As I stated in my earlier post I played the previous two. They sucked. I didn't like the graphics and I did not like playing a Role-Playing Game using a Point-And-Click control system. And when I compare the original two to FO3 and FO:NV, FO3 and FO:NV are much better. Stop and think about how well FO3 and FO:NV have sold since they came out. Look at Capcom's 2002 remake of the original Resident Evil. I played it and it was way better than the original which I also played(the original was too brightly lit and calm for a survival horror game). It sold enough to become a Nintendo Player's Choice title in 2003. As I stated before your entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine and I'll just leave it at that.--Ryker6119:44, February 20, 2011 (UTC)~11:36am 2/20/2011

Would you redo the Last Supper because the paint's chipped? Would you redo Citizen Kane because its in black and white? Would you redo the Lord of the Rings because the language is too hard for your brain to comprehend? NO! Keep the Fallouts as is, they are retro at its best, make additional games to further the series, don't reboot what you have already done. Sombar1

Before I part company with this thread, I just want to say this: If Bethesda Softworks decides to do a remake of FallOut 1 and 2, no amount of complaining is going to make them see different. They own the franchise.--Ryker6107:05, February 21, 2011 (UTC)~11:05pm 2/20/2011

My opinion. If you play the old games in a window they're just fine or at the very least, acceptable. On my (smallest) 24" widescreen they're god awful full screen but it's the game-play that's important for me. I even fired up Might & Magic VIII while waiting for my copy of FNV to arrive and I have to say - I thoroughly enjoyed it! However, it might be nice to see Fallout 1 & 2 remade (provided the only thing that changes is the graphics) or re-released so that at least those that missed the originals get a chance to play them. Just keep Bethesda away from that idea though, they'll proper mess it right up - LOL.  (P3dantic)  86.150.207.91 23:56, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

I for one have thought this would be a good idea for a number of old adventure/rpg games...In the past, I have bought a couple of "ultimate" packages only to be very disappointed. *Leisure Suit Larry" and "Ultima" come to mind...* I would have enjoyed the compilations much better had the older games been updated. I bought the Fallout compilation, and find the game play way to slow. I much prefer the play in 3 and NV much better.

As for Sombari's questions...Not all reboots are bad. I give you the "Star Trek" reboot...Much much better than I had hoped for.

72.240.151.79 19:04, February 24, 2011 (UTC)Mr.Emann

I would love to see a 3D version of The Hub and Arroyo and first of all Vault City! xNOKIx 10:50, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Personally I really enjoyed FO1&2 and yes it would be cool to see them in FO3 format BUT, I would rather the devs concentrate on new content and new FO games. The past is the past, just read the story of the games. If you were too young to remember the games, then tough get over it or play them.Kaldhore 22:07, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Basically I agree with you, but my personal problem is that I can't even imagine a possible direction for future games of the franchise to go without fucking up the lore and the "universe" like FO3 did. I mean which other big cities of the US might be used? Los Angeles might be an idea... Okay, I'd like to see the area that was to be covered by Van Buren but parts of it are (apparently) to be included with DLC for New Vegas. And I really can't imagine a Fallout in another country than the US. xNOKIx 19:05, March 2, 2011 (UTC)