Talk:Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

I removed some of the speculation that had no foundation in facts. Ausir 00:24, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Have you any clue about source of this Bering Strait information (my question at MEC minigun article discussion was never answered).--dotz 20:33, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought it was mentioned in Tactics, but I now checked and it isn't. Probably someone made it up, so I'll remove it. Ausir 20:49, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

The description for the AK-112 also mentions the Soviets. Zorkins 17:50, 09 February 2009 (UTC)

Possible Retconning
I think since Bethesda made it so that in Mothership Zeta, the bombs dropping were caused by the aliens, they should say that the reason why the Russian Federation is still the USSR, should be not because it didn't collapse, but because, oh say Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin revived it sometime in the 2010s. Sort of giving us more of a "history repeats itself" kind of feeling rather than a "history has been stagnant since the 1950s" kind of feeling. Ronald Raegan was mentioned (as an actual president) in the Fallout bible at least. I don't know. I some ways, I just wish this series was more on par with reality, retro future was subtracted from the equation, and we were given a better explanation to as of why some forms of technology weren't alot more advanced than we'd think they'd be considering that some of it is supposed to come from 66 years in the future. 'Cause when you think about it, the campy feeling looks kinda cheesy, hokey, and just plain lame. But that's just my oppinion.
 * Get out. Aliens didn't cause the war and Fallout has diverged for a good reason, because it's not a sociopolitical commentary. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/thumb/4/4a/Naglowaa_se.gif/11px-Naglowaa_se.gif Tagaziel (call!) 09:23, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * Really? I could've sworn hearing that they did...and you may be right about that. So my bad.

MIR and random encounters
The appearance of MIR was just an easter egg in a special encounter it is not canon even for Tactics. Ausir 11:57, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Just to be sure - how do we know it was easter egg? (and philosophical one: why this easter egg is not a canon?)--dotz 17:13, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Because it was only in a special encounter. And all of these encounters are pop-cultural references that are outside the canon. Ausir 18:18, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I recommend to establish a Canon Council to judge such cases. Do you realy think Mir is pop-cultural reference? BTW I am going to describe present at Fallout 2 alternative plot concerning King Arthur's faction at weakend Brotherhood of Steel (at least 3 random encounters).--dotz 20:55, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Fallout developers always were clear on that the special encounters are non-canon. Even if some of them could possibly fit the canon (and Mir doesn't, since it was launched in the 1980s), they are not, unless you want to argue that Fallout takes place in both the Star Trek and the Doctor Who universes. Ausir 21:35, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've always suspected it :) Do you remember notice about possible Klingons attack during space flight to BOMB1? What about found artifacts? I am going mad. Where is my Alien Blaster?! Clear the holodeck! Aargh...--dotz 22:28, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Your holodeck and alien blaster are no match to my TARDIS and sonic screwdriver. Ausir 22:31, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Political Flipping
It seems the USSR and China have switched roles in the Fallout universe. The USSR seems to have become a "commerce with all, alliance with none" (as John Henry Eden likes to put it) nation, and China is a super-communist menace. Perhaps this may show divergence DURING world war two or even before it, perhaps with Trotsky taking Stalin's place in the USSR which would make a more politically free and civilly free soviet union. Mao's china would seem to be the greater of two communist evils in a Mccarthyist (or similar anti-communist) 1950's America while the USSR will seem a "Nessicary but evil" trading partner like China was for most of the cold war. On a related note, the US seems to be more isolationist then it's 1950's counterpart, it's possible that they never entered WW2 in the first place, it may have ended in a nuclear exchange before they entered the war making Europe in a much weaker state for the century to come.-Accountless Avenger
 * Good points. TheCzechDuck 02:20, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * World War II was the same as in real life because it has the exhibit in the Museum of American History. S Berger

Given that the European powers all but dissoluted, and the Great War rendered the USA and China both crippled, wouldn't that mean that the U.S.S.R. would be the strongest world power following the Great War? --117649AnnihilativeRepentance 01:26, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The whole world was destroyed in the Great War, not just the US and China. All capable countries launched their nukes at one another. Ausir(talk) 01:34, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Pro-China?
A computer found in Lonesome Road contains an e-mail from Commander Devlin who mentions "Kremlin Joe and their Chinko allies". As far as I know, this is one of the only instances where China and the USSR were implied to be working together in the war, not to mention stating the Chinese as mere "allies" of the USSR.

Obviously the commander himself is a parody of overblown patriotism and Red Scare but this still contradicts some of the previous things we know about Russia's involvement in the war. How to handle this? --Neakal 21:03, October 30, 2011 (UTC)