Talk:Varmint rifle/Archive 1

It's "varmint rifle", not just "varmint". Ausir(talk) 17:04, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

I'm guessing it'll be the Ruger 10/22
I mean, it is the most popular .22 in the world. Plus with all the customization that you can do to it (in real life), it would be perfect for the new upgrade system.
 * Or it could be a Pipe Rifle. We don't know, and there was no picture of this before the magazine scans were yanked. Nitty Tok. 02:50, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * guess he was right my 10/22 looks like that.
 * The one in picture has a box magazine, while most standard 10/22s have rotary magazines that dont stick out much.Check this ruger page.Billytheboy 14:07, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * It also looks kinda like it has a bolt, while the 10/22 is semi automatic. Some gameplay videos like this one show a rifle that doesn't look like the hunting rifle but still is bolt action. 2:24 in the video shows a perfect picture of the thumb hole stock and the bolt being worked.Billytheboy 17:09, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * It also looks kinda like it has a bolt, while the 10/22 is semi automatic. Some gameplay videos like this one show a rifle that doesn't look like the hunting rifle but still is bolt action. 2:24 in the video shows a perfect picture of the thumb hole stock and the bolt being worked.Billytheboy 17:09, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * It also looks kinda like it has a bolt, while the 10/22 is semi automatic. Some gameplay videos like this one show a rifle that doesn't look like the hunting rifle but still is bolt action. 2:24 in the video shows a perfect picture of the thumb hole stock and the bolt being worked.Billytheboy 17:09, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Unique?
The OXM's online review calls this rifle unique, but are they a credible source?Warriors004 02:19, April 16, 2010 (UTC)Warriors004
 * No. Nitty Tok. 02:49, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Gun Pic
I'd like to point out that the gun you have for the picture of the varmint rifle is an M1 Garand, just without the bolt. And the M1 Garand uses 30ot6 ammo, not 22. rifle ammo. So unless in the future they come out with a gun that looks exactly like the M1 Garand, thats the wrong pic for the varmint rifle. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

JE Sawyer has confirmed on the official forums that the Garand seen in the screens is NOT the varmint rifle. Please remove this part of the article.

They showed it off quite a bit in the machinima video.Grand Cookie 18:15, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Oh god, we don't have real-world weapons in New Vegas. Just because a R91 looks like a G3 doesn't mean it is... Nukey (talk) 14:14, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The R91 is listed as a G3 in the game files for Fallout 3. Specifically, the meshes are G3AssaultRifle.nif and 1stPersonG3AssaultRifle. Not sure what the R91 or G3 have to do with New Vegas or the varmint rifle though. -- Kris  mailbox  14:31, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The now pictured rifle looks nothing like a garand but Here is a 10/22 garand conversion.Billytheboy 14:55, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Looks like an M1 Carbine.... Sparky   talk 

Caliber
Are we sure that the varmint rifle is gonna be a .22? I have seen OXM say it was a .22, but you said that OXM isn't credible, and i perrsonaly haven't seen any other sources call it a .22. What i have seen is this video showing the varmint rifle being used. The shells being ejected are way too big to be .22 rounds. I think it might be .223/5.56 round or a similar round. .223 remington is still a varmint round.Billytheboy 18:54, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

This is way too big to be a .22 and that is definatly the varmint rifle. Billytheboy 21:33, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

The shell casing? That's irrelevant, in Fallout 3 there's only one shell casing model for each type of gun (pistol, rifle, etc). It's not supposed to be realistic. Kris mailbox 22:01, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Could be a .22 mag round. I doubt they made different shell lengths for different ammo types, though. MFToast - talk 22:19, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually guys, this says the rifle uses 5.56mm rounds... Nitty Tok. 18:44, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'se right!!! Told you!!!Billytheboy 19:09, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'se right!!! Told you!!!Billytheboy 19:09, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

According to Sawyer it was originally .22 but was next to useless for a rifle in this caliber, so they upgraded it to .223.--71.234.106.119 02:13, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Hey,guys i'm new on the wiki and wanted to know is it a .22 or a .223 ?? thanks

.223 --Billytheboy 13:01, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome Power
When I am outdoors at night the varmit rifle with the mods can often outdamage my q-35 unique plasma rifle. The night scope makes sniping at long ranges really easy. Getting sneak attack critical hits on every shot because you are a mile away and sneaking in the dark with a silenced night scoped rifle is fun. Can't wait till I get some actual sniper rifles to test out, but I doubt they're any silenced ones?
 * Did you opt for the extended mag? I was kinda underwhelmed with that. It's useful, but rather overpriced. And yeah this is a great weapon for sniping, I don't even have the scope on it yet and I can take out Convicts from a mile away with the iron sights. -- 20:48, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * This rifle and the scope, and preferably some AP ammunition, allow you to knock over and loot the NCR correctional facility while still at a very low level. Fun, fun, fun. Wunengzi 09:06, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

I'm taking out stuff like lakelurks glowing one troopers fire geckos, anything except a deathclaw really, heh. I've gotten some pretty sick one shot kills off on some things like golden geckos or lakelurks. currently I've got it silenced and night scoped with the extended mag saved but not attached, just in case there is a 4th mod to choose from that I find later. Also cost is nothing.... this gun even with ALL three mods is like what? 1000caps? but it is performing as well as a 4000cap gun or better at least as long as your outside (using ED-E helps a lot because otherwise it's hard to find enemies at such massively far away ranges)

Definitely
this is my favorite weapon for it's sniping power, but it really degrades fast when you use it to kill everything. Ravirai 23:48, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

Night scope?
Is it suppose to be like night vision or something cause it looks the same as without the scope to me Deus 20:55, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

the night scope only activates at night, during the day it's a regular scope!

The "trivia" section
Many varmint rifles are chambered in 5.56x45mm/.223. Whilst they offer too much destructive potential on rabbits and the like at close range if one wishes to eat the prey or keep the pelt, they're often used for long range shots on small game and also on varmints such as coyotes or feral dogs at closer range. A .22LR is inadequate for this latter application (.22 Magnum is the bare minimum). The .22LR is also a common varmint round, but it is equally as valid saying that 5.56x45mm is a varmint cartridge. Its use in the military is based on the fact that a lot of ammunition can be carried and it provides controllable fully automatic fire; its parent cartridge, the .222 Remington, which offers similar ballistics to the 5.56x45mm, has always been a small game/varmint round. More powerful cartridges are also seen as adequate for varmints too, like .243 Winchester (a necked down .308 round; which means it fires a small diameter bullet from the same casing, which in turn means higher velocity for a flatter shooting round. The larger diameter .30 caliber bullet isn't needed on coyote and such), .22-250 (a "super" 5.56x45mm) and the like.

I think the trivia section should be removed.

121.222.156.130 22:02, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Cheap sniper
ifs a cheap stealth weapon. A full con version whith nigth vision and silenser make it leathal.