Talk:Tough Guy

What does reduced mean
Can anyone give a percentage or something? 'Reduced' is not clear enough I think. I don't know if it's possible to fetch that info; but I'm on XBOX so I'm sure it is impossible for me... --The Bart 13:57, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 0.8x damage modifier, aka 20% reduction. -- 15:01, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That means the effects of the Small Frame trait are nulled after becoming crippled 50 times, witch makes it much more appealing. Worth noting in both articles?--The Bart 18:30, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

The effects of Small Frame aren't exactly nullified, because the perk reduces 20% the chance of your limbs becoming crippled and Small Frame adds 25% chance that your limbs becomes crippled. Yes, it's only 5%, but you have to be carefull in the long run, specially in hardcore mode. Brfritos 16:15, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 80% of 125% = 100% (4/5ths of 5/4); this perk exactly negates the Small Frame penalty. 124.168.90.105 00:37, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Additionally, it's incorrect to say Small Frame increases the chance of your limbs being crippled by 25% (or that Tough Guy reduces it) - neither perk directly affects the chances of limbs being crippled, they just increase/decrease the damage a limb receives when hit. 124.168.90.105 00:43, May 17, 2011 (UTC)