Forum:Things you want to know more about the Fallout world...

What was the point where the Fallout universe diverged from ours?

How different was the 20th century in the Fallout world?

Who was president when the bombs fell?

These are some of mine I'd like to see get addressed in the future. 99.21.168.154 01:37, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

The difference between our 20th century and the Fallout worlds 20th century is that one stayed in the 1950s' American style while our American style changed almost every decade. The Fallout world, I think, didn't invent the home computor until around the 2060s' or 2070s' unlike it did in the 1980s' in our time. Colored television was still a dream in the Fallout world while if you look today not only do we have colored TV we have HD. Also the Soviet Union didn't fall in 1991 in the Fallout world and I havent seen anything that talks about the Cold War between the USSR and US. It seems to me the USSR and US were good friends. They might of been allies before the Great War. I really want to know who the dumbass president was during the Great War that sent the planet into an almost extiction.- Zachattak471 May 11, 2010 21:59 ET

According to President Richardson, the Chinese ("Reds") were actually the first to launch. 99.60.252.176 21:49, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah but its China's and America's fault that the rest of the world went to hell. There could of been a better outcome then nuclear war. Thats the most terrorfying thing in a war is when a person commits suicide to kill its enemies. The Japanese in World War II used a hand grenade when they knew they would be captured, so when a U.S. soldier went up to them they would pull the pin killing him and maybe killing or maiming a few others. The Chinese of the Fallout world did the same thing only they used nuclear bombs! I bet they nuked their own capital city. Thats so freaken crazy!- Zachattak471 May 12, 2010 9:17 ET


 * Don't forget the kamikaze, or other suicide bombers. Ratchetdude099 03:44, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1:The Kamikaze were Japanese Suicide bombers.
 * 2: Why the hell would the Chinese nuke their own capital when they have absolutely no grounds for doing so? 212.219.94.30 10:38, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2: Why the hell would the Chinese nuke their own capital when they have absolutely no grounds for doing so? 212.219.94.30 10:38, May 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ever read 1984? Big McLargeHuge 21:08, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Didn't include nuking Airstrip One deliberately. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 21:57, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know the Kamikaze were Japanese. I brought it up because Zachattak471 brought up Japanese soldiers in WWII killing themselves. Ratchetdude099 03:24, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

I thought I read something that said that the Chinese nuked their capital city when they saw U.S. soldiers in Power Armor coming into the city.- Zachattak471 May 16, 2010 14:31 ET

I continually wonder what the tactics were. I mean... Really. America kind of threw the ball halfway across the court in the universe by letting Alaska out. AS far as I can tell, Alaska has anti-nuke defenses. You might wanna keep that when there is a possibility that the enemy is going to nuke you.

President: "Gee let's leave Alaska fairly vulnerable. It has valuable defenses in the war and would act as the sole surviving state in this nation should they decide to nuke us."

Other guy: "President, don't you think that's-"

President: "SHUT UP I'M THA PRESIDENT I MAKE THE DECISIONS." Thoadthetoad 02:17, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Uh, what? You have no idea how the Chinese overrun Alaska. For all you know, they could've bombed Anchorage to very fine dust, along with all its defenders. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 07:10, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * What were some other wars the U.S. was involved in before thw 2060s? Did the Korean War or Vietnam still happen in the Fallout world? 99.56.187.7 16:09, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why shouldn't they? http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 16:52, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps different politicians were in office and it led to different decisions being made? 99.56.187.7 01:36, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * The divergence doesn't mean everything was immediately different. Historical events don't just magically happen, their causes stretch back years and in the case of 1950s and 1960s, it's likely they happened like in our timeline, though with minor variations, maybe. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 08:21, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * More napalm and agent orange. hehe. 97.123.38.135 15:25, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I wanna know what happened to the Marines. They've gotta be somewhere. [[File:User BoS Paladin Thumbnail.jpeg]] Knight Captain Ski (talk) 04:47, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * More napalm and agent orange. hehe. 97.123.38.135 15:25, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I wanna know what happened to the Marines. They've gotta be somewhere. [[File:User BoS Paladin Thumbnail.jpeg]] Knight Captain Ski (talk) 04:47, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I wanna know what happened to the Marines. They've gotta be somewhere. [[File:User BoS Paladin Thumbnail.jpeg]] Knight Captain Ski (talk) 04:47, June 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) There probably wasn't a vietnam war or korean war, because of the different timeline ( if there was, we probably won)
 * 2) I think the aliens in mothership zeta caused world war 3.....( take a look at this http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Alien_Captive_Recorded_Log#Alien_Captive_Recorded_Log_1, Alien Captive Recorded Log 17 SCARY)
 * 3) My favorite explanation for the divergence theory was ( this is from another user), when we detonated the atomic bomb in 1945, it created a whole different universe, the fallout universe (PURE SCIENCE FICTION) -MerchantofDeath 00:13, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, there was a Vietnam and Korean War. Since the divergence happened in the 50s, any event of our timeline that was caused by pre-divergence events is quite likely to happen. Second, no, aliens are non-canon. They're an idiocy on the part of Bethesda. Third, why would Hiroshima/Nagasaki create a different timeline? http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 07:11, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe he's talking about something like the Church of Atom's theory with nuclear detonations creating new universes out of the atoms or something. He wasn't very clear. Knight Captain Ski (radio) 07:22, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * There's an alien crash site in the first Fallout as a special encounter. That's at least two thirds canon, right? MZ aliens were pretty lame... Steam? Come on. Nuka Kulcha 16:11, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm of the opinion that if it appears in the game and has not been confirmed as noncanon by the creators then it is canon. Knight Captain Ski (radio) 22:15, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Like I said..... #3 was not my idea :). Also, the timeline separated just a little bit after world war two...... -MerchantofDeath 02:13, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Which doesn't mean that events rooted in WWII (or even pre-WWII) are magically not going to happen. Wars are often the result of decades of specific events taking place, so it's quite likely that the Vietnam War and Korean War happened. The timeline alterations could've manifested e.g. in Nixon silencing Watergate whistleblowers, securing himself a stable presidency. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 06:14, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * You may be right-MerchantofDeath 19:59, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I still think they could have been vastly different. If culture stagnated in the 1950s, imagine how different the 1960s counterculture might have been. I don't imagine seeing The Doors or Jimi Hendrix in the Fallout universe. The mid 60s were when the googie-style that's so prevalent in the Fallout universe died out in our own, so anything afterwards would probably be very different. Even as early as the 1940s things may have been vastly different. If you look at the world map on this wiki, the Eastern Bloc, formed shortly after WWII ended, doesn't seem to exist. 99.24.207.7 19:51, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. The fact that canon doesn't specifically define the culture of the time (You as the player are looking at the world 200 years after it was blown to hell), presents a rather wide array of possibilities. Also, war-time propaganda films are hardly a reliable cross-section of what was really happening at the time. Nuka Kulcha 05:25, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I want to know more about Europe seeing as it was in the shitter before it was cool, esspecially the UK 86.149.71.97 20:31, June 14, 2010 (UTC) Sec 19
 * Actually the modern world is already on the road to the Fallout nuclear war. The Soviet Union has ceased to exist, the modern Russia is too weak for a standoff with the USA. However, China grows stronger and there are lots of unresolved issue with it: from Taiwan to the struggle for world resources. I can imagine the next Cold War between China and the USA and China losing it; however, in opposite to the Soviet Union breakdown the Chinese could just start shooting. Eventually it will end as in the Fallout game.
 * Imagine this. Imagine if America couldn't figure out a new design trend and then started using past trends like the style of the American 1950s'. Buildings would be designed Art Deco style again. Cars would be stylish again with the shark fins and long body but would be hydrogen fueled cause this is still the future. But mean while in the world China has become and independent nation. It has left the UN and other world organizations. And is ever growing more powerful. Russia is having a civil war for power of the nation. Soviet hot heads agaisnt democratic federalists. Terrorist attacks in the Middle East still continue. Europe has finally run out of natural resources. Small European nations are fighting eachother or annexing other lands. Then somewhere in the 2050s I predict that China and the USA will have a world power struggle. The 2nd Cold War which then boils to a third World War. And this is the future again where we dont fight with soldiers we fight with nukes. All this a possibility in our future. -Zachattak471 July 23, 2010 00:31 ET
 * actually i think that the war between china and the USSA would be the first cold war reason being that right after world war 2 Russia and the USSA stayed buddies so vietnam or korea wouldnt have happened neither would the problem with the taliban arise because we would have supported the commies letting them roll over the taliban however there is a possibility that thefirst cold war may have been with the Brits because during world war 2 the brits and the russians werent exactly rubbing elbows so i think that if the USSA got close to Russia they woukd have got farther from england possibly escalating towards war as for china im kinda interested in how china stayed around very long because even if they were the big kid on the block if they start pushing around other countries they would have started siding with the USSA and then they would have got beat 6 ways from sunday   Peters 007 04:33, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually the modern world is already on the road to the Fallout nuclear war. The Soviet Union has ceased to exist, the modern Russia is too weak for a standoff with the USA. However, China grows stronger and there are lots of unresolved issue with it: from Taiwan to the struggle for world resources. I can imagine the next Cold War between China and the USA and China losing it; however, in opposite to the Soviet Union breakdown the Chinese could just start shooting. Eventually it will end as in the Fallout game.
 * Imagine this. Imagine if America couldn't figure out a new design trend and then started using past trends like the style of the American 1950s'. Buildings would be designed Art Deco style again. Cars would be stylish again with the shark fins and long body but would be hydrogen fueled cause this is still the future. But mean while in the world China has become and independent nation. It has left the UN and other world organizations. And is ever growing more powerful. Russia is having a civil war for power of the nation. Soviet hot heads agaisnt democratic federalists. Terrorist attacks in the Middle East still continue. Europe has finally run out of natural resources. Small European nations are fighting eachother or annexing other lands. Then somewhere in the 2050s I predict that China and the USA will have a world power struggle. The 2nd Cold War which then boils to a third World War. And this is the future again where we dont fight with soldiers we fight with nukes. All this a possibility in our future. -Zachattak471 July 23, 2010 00:31 ET
 * actually i think that the war between china and the USSA would be the first cold war reason being that right after world war 2 Russia and the USSA stayed buddies so vietnam or korea wouldnt have happened neither would the problem with the taliban arise because we would have supported the commies letting them roll over the taliban however there is a possibility that thefirst cold war may have been with the Brits because during world war 2 the brits and the russians werent exactly rubbing elbows so i think that if the USSA got close to Russia they woukd have got farther from england possibly escalating towards war as for china im kinda interested in how china stayed around very long because even if they were the big kid on the block if they start pushing around other countries they would have started siding with the USSA and then they would have got beat 6 ways from sunday   Peters 007 04:33, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Imagine this. Imagine if America couldn't figure out a new design trend and then started using past trends like the style of the American 1950s'. Buildings would be designed Art Deco style again. Cars would be stylish again with the shark fins and long body but would be hydrogen fueled cause this is still the future. But mean while in the world China has become and independent nation. It has left the UN and other world organizations. And is ever growing more powerful. Russia is having a civil war for power of the nation. Soviet hot heads agaisnt democratic federalists. Terrorist attacks in the Middle East still continue. Europe has finally run out of natural resources. Small European nations are fighting eachother or annexing other lands. Then somewhere in the 2050s I predict that China and the USA will have a world power struggle. The 2nd Cold War which then boils to a third World War. And this is the future again where we dont fight with soldiers we fight with nukes. All this a possibility in our future. -Zachattak471 July 23, 2010 00:31 ET
 * actually i think that the war between china and the USSA would be the first cold war reason being that right after world war 2 Russia and the USSA stayed buddies so vietnam or korea wouldnt have happened neither would the problem with the taliban arise because we would have supported the commies letting them roll over the taliban however there is a possibility that thefirst cold war may have been with the Brits because during world war 2 the brits and the russians werent exactly rubbing elbows so i think that if the USSA got close to Russia they woukd have got farther from england possibly escalating towards war as for china im kinda interested in how china stayed around very long because even if they were the big kid on the block if they start pushing around other countries they would have started siding with the USSA and then they would have got beat 6 ways from sunday   Peters 007 04:33, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * actually i think that the war between china and the USSA would be the first cold war reason being that right after world war 2 Russia and the USSA stayed buddies so vietnam or korea wouldnt have happened neither would the problem with the taliban arise because we would have supported the commies letting them roll over the taliban however there is a possibility that thefirst cold war may have been with the Brits because during world war 2 the brits and the russians werent exactly rubbing elbows so i think that if the USSA got close to Russia they woukd have got farther from england possibly escalating towards war as for china im kinda interested in how china stayed around very long because even if they were the big kid on the block if they start pushing around other countries they would have started siding with the USSA and then they would have got beat 6 ways from sunday   Peters 007 04:33, August 2, 2010 (UTC)