Talk:Haley

Haley Repair at 100
I just did the mansion portion of the starting quest and wandered around and found Haley's shop and talked to him and had him repair some stuff, his repair was around 16 or 21. Then I did every other quest there was except the book quest and checked in with Haley again, still his repair was 21. Then I decided to continue the main quest line and found some items I wanted repaired, so I brought them to him and asked for repair service to find that his skill was boosted to 26 somehow. I continued the main quest line and checked in after every objective to talk to him and get things repaired and every time I did this, his repair skill increased by 5 more. Once I finished the quest line, his repair was at 91, so I wandered around and found some stuff for him to repair again, went to check on him and it was now at 96. I exited the shop and re entered to check his repair again and it was now at 100.

After leaving Point Lookout and returning his skill is still at 100. I also stored all of the items I found in the footlocker on the ferry rather than taking them to my house. This happened on Xbox360. Not sure if it was a bug or if it was meant to happen. {anbu}neji 68.251.52.115 10:42, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Just thought I'd point out that in the G.E.C.K his base repair skill is 11, but the jumpsuit raises it by 5. So the jumpsuit is re-adding the enchantment everytime you enter the cell, and the first time you see him the repair skill is 16.

Best glitch ever. --75.17.150.59 02:20, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree, this glitch wins epically. --Clean Up 22:01, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Not a Glitch
I think it is worth positing that someone at Bethesda knew this would happen, if not the minds behind the entire game. He has been given a unique jumpsuit, and it is obviously part of the effect that we now witness. No patch has attempted to fix this, and his repair skill is ridiculously low in the beginning, with the other vendor being even lower. Since his shop is frequented throughout one's play-through, they must have hoped the players would get the idea, "Oh, wow, he is getting better at repairs as he goes along."


 * It is a glitch. Just because someone at Bethesda knows about the glitch does not mean it was intentionally added. It is not an effect of his unique jumpsuit (which has been proven because it doesn't work on anyone else). In addition, the fact his repair skill can drop back to normal indicates his permanent repair skill is never changed. From how it acts, the game de-equips and re-equips him without refreshing his temporary bonuses, so it keeps accumulating each time it occurs. Whenever the game, for whatever reason, remembers to refresh the temporary bonuses, it goes back to normal. There are numerous other bugs and glitches in the game that have not been fixed, both positive and negative, so the fact it hasn't been patched does not indicate it is intentional. By the same logic, the Gauss Rifle is supposed to do different damage in VATs and realtime and Fawkes and Dogmeat are supposed to be able to take 10 direct mini nuke hits.

Crap.
Hmm... Bethesda's gonna patch this, and break all of Point Lookout for the fun of it. Now, do I repair all my crap to 100% with him, or splatter his head over the walls for the jumpsuit? Nitpicker of the Wastes 16:30, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep him...but lock him in a dark cell...he broke the code of the mash-fancy lads war. Butter 16:32, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't believe it at first. But... Jesus-Christ-on-a-fucking-jetpack. Haley really CAN repair stuff to 100%! Point Lookout doesn't suck anymore. WOOT! Nitpicker of the Wastes 19:24, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Can I glitch his repair to 100, then steal his suit? Nitpicker of the Wastes 02:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure...but i used console commands to lock him in vault 101....since i can just TCL in there.He looks pretty funny being locked in a vault room.Bit he deserved it.no oen breaks the code Butter 12:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I tried to get his suit with a glitched repair of 100 but the suit still had a repair of 5 even after reversepocketing and killing.

I'm fucked
Could someone try to reverse-pickpocket his jumpsuit on other repairNPC's? I took his jumpsuit before I knew of the glitch with my main character. >.< Gabriel Cortez 11:02, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Haley 100% repairs for FREE
Well the 100% repair thing is true but I found something even better....You can actually pickpocket back your caps BUT it is hard as hell... This is how I did it.... Chinese Stealth suit, stealth boys, and sneak skill 80 and above.... You must drop all your items somewhere, I prefer leaving it in the trash can just in the door before you enter the hardware... Now go behind Haley, I prefer when he is using the broom or laying on the wall, either is good... Use the stealth boy and pickpocket him(THIS IS THE TRICKY PART, I THINK O_o).... Wait for about 3 seconds before taking back your caps then take it! Congratulations! You repaired your stuff for free!!! Last time I did this, I got 5478 of my caps back..... Had to repair my Backwater Rifle, Dismemberer, Reservist's Rifle, Xuanlong rifle, Heavy Incinerator, Perforator, A3-21 plasma rifle, confederate hat, and of course, my Chinese stealth Suit!!! Blood Omelet 22:10, June 28, 2009 (EDIT)Another good way is Paralyzing Palm.... Yes, it will lower his hp but sneak some food like Mirelurk cakes and wait for him to get up, he will eat it and gain hp.... Go outside, travel somewhere far like Calvert Mansion then wait for about 3 in game days or use the wait thingy and go back....blah blah, he is not hostile anymore
 * Dude, I'm so happy that you are that happy, but seriously. And, by the way, all that matters is that A, you are "hidden", and B, that you have very little weight -on- you, not in your inventory.

Dogmeat Bug
I posted this bug on the Haley's Hardware discussion page but thought it was worth mentioning here as well. After repeated visiting to Haley's Hardware Dogmeat decided to randomly spawn on the doorstep! He can follow me around and find items and such. He has insanely high health (cannot be killed with a Better Criticals Sneak Attack with a double-barrel shotgun) but will not go back to the Capital Wasteland when choosing the "wait for me at Vault 101" speech option but will remain at the doorstep even after repeated trips to the Capital Wasteland and back. I fixed this by asking him to follow me and then taking the Duchess back to the Capital Wasteland where I got the pop-up saying "Dogmeat is waiting for you at Vault 101". I'm sure it ties into the 100% repair glitch somehow because that's what I was doing before I found him on the doorstep. This was done on an Xbox 360 with no modded saves. PhayzeShift 17:14, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * well it in no way ties to the glitch...dogmeat just randomly spawns in entirely different maps, ive seen him in the pitt, and point lookout, both times he glitched thereToolazytomakeaaccount 18:15, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Haileys repair returning to normal
hey guys im tryin this glitch but sometimes haileys repair skill will return to normal while im tryin to work it up to 100% and i dont know why.

i had the same thing happen you have to have items that need a big repair or thats how it worked for me i got it to keep rising by bringing everything i won to the haleys putting it in the trunk so i could carry more back n forth then overcumbersome yourself and repair one thing walk out come back save and repeat

Saving & reloading
Added a bit about entering the store, exiting, saving and reloading, entering. The first method described didn't work at all for me, for some reason. This did.

Another thing: the YouTube video states that you should enter, open up a Repair dialogue, exit. I did do the Repair-dialogue-bit but I don't know if it is actually necessary - the article doesn't mention this. Maybe someone could confirm this. Mirelurk Preservation Society 23:55, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


 * No, I tested this. You don't need to initiate any dialogue. Just, literally, every time you "load" the shop, his repair skill gets added 5 points. Doesn't matter how you want to load it. Walk south to the end of the dock and come back... that'll pretty much do it.

Is Haley or the Handyman jumpsuit bugged?
everyone knows that Haley is wearing the Handyman jumpsuit that gives 5+ bonus to repair. i think every time you visit him the handyman jumpsuit gives him that 5+ bonus to repair again... so what if you for instance reverse pickpocket Bannon from rivet city for example and put the suit on him will he would have +5 repair too every time you visit him?

you know why im asking this? i dont want to travel to travel all the way to point lookout again to get my stuff 100% why not letting someone in the capital wasteland get 100% repair.

so can someone try this out and confirm this? i dont got point lookout on my xbox yet. =(


 * I want to know this too, but I don't want to ruin what I've got right now.


 * This is very important to know. does anybody know the answer yet?Tehuberleetmaster 01:34, February 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * If it's Haley that's bugged, and not the jumpsuit, then would making him wear Workman's Coveralls (+10 Repair) get his repair skill to increase faster? RolandVH 19:31, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

IT DOES WORK WITH OTHER NPCS
I killed Haley (sadly, i did not want to bother with reverse pickpocketing it from him) and reverse pickpocketed it onto Crazy Wolfgang (at megaton). Immediately his repair went up to 80. After waiting in the same location for him to spawn again, same repair skill. Fast traveled to another caravan spot (rivet city). His repair was at 85. Then waited there, went back down to 80 ;_; If there is a way to keep it from resetting, then bam, an npc with 100 repair in the capital wasteland, no more traveling to point lookout. TheoQ99 19:29, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Tried it with moira, could not get the repair skill to keep increasing ;_; stayed at a constant 24

Has anyone managed to get the suit to work on Moira? She seems like a natural choice for the repairs job but i've tried in a couple of games & it just isn't increasing her skill. Casputin 20:48, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Repair skill IS permanent.
In the bugs section someone stated that, for Xbox at least, his 100 repair skill isn’t permanent. Can anyone else verify this? I play the Xbox and I’ve been using him for quite some time now and his repair hasn’t dropped down any, let alone back down to its original level.

The only thing I’ve noticed is that items he repairs to 100% wont group together with other items also at 100%. I had saved all 11 Tesla cannons, I had the five that you get at 100% and the remaining 6 I had him repair, when I put them in the same locker they were in two groups. I had to take the original 5 and shoot a few rounds through each then have him repair them. After that they all grouped together in the inventory. I tested this with other weapons and got the same result each time.ReapTheChaos 21:21, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Someone is me, and it isn't always permanent. Mictlantecuhtli 10:43, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

well given that his 100 repair skill alone is a glitch, it makes sense that the glitch can fail or mess up, it wasn't meant to be this way, lol Toolazytomakeaaccount 17:08, October 14, 2010 (UTC)