Talk:Fallout 3 Enclave camps

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The vertibird dropping nukes is a recurring event. I don't know if it's timed or triggered by passing from a certain direction, but after cleaning it out, I took my time looting the place, then after leaving, another vertibird nuked the place behind me. If it is on a timer, beware... --97.81.77.13 17:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Enclave Power Armor vs. Advanced Power Armor Mk II
Can we please come to some kind of resolution on this. In Fallout 3, in the interface, the armor is called Enclave Power Armor, yet some anonymous user keeps changing it to Advanced Power Armor Mk II'. The problem is caused because "Enclave Power Armor" apparently has 2 different versions depending on whether you're talking about Fallout 2 or Fallout 3. How about this, let's use the words "Enclave Power Armor" but with the link to the Adv PA 2. To do that, just do this...

Enclave Power Armor (Use "Edit this page" to see the text behind this link)


 * In Fallout 3, it is called "Advanced Power Armor Mark II" in dialogue (but not in inventory). One guess is that the original Advanced Power Armor still canonically looks the way it did in Fallout 2, but they retconned the Mark II model to look different. In Fallout 2, both the standard Advanced Power Armor and the Advanced Power Armor Mk II appear. Ausir 21:03, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

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Fort Independance
Can we get verification on this? I suspect this is inaccurate.

The wasteland doctor is a random spawn, and the Outcasts are random patrols too. Judging by the description right there, I'm inclined to believe those two random encounters just ran into the outpost and was defeated. --DarkJeff 17:17, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I think you're right. I'm pretty sure the entry was mine, so I'll go fix it.  Servius 17:28, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Format suggestion.
I wonder if we can improve readability by using a table to capture the changes between the different difficulties. I would think something akin to:

Deathclaw Sanctuary - Can have a description of the location and other supporting text before the table section
 * {| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" class="sortable"

! Force ! Very Easy ! Easy ! Normal ! Hard ! Very Hard || # || # || # || 2 || # || # || # || # || 1 || #  || # || # || # || 1 || #  || # || # || # || 2 || #  || # || # || # || 2 || #
 * -align="left"
 * -style="background:#ffdead;"
 * - align="center"
 * align="left" | Enclave Soldier in Tesla Armor
 * 1
 * - align="center"
 * align="left" | Deathclaw (presumably from nearby open Enclave Deathclaw cage, who went nuts and killed the Enclave Soldier)
 * 1
 * - align="center"
 * align="left" | Deathclaw corpse still in a closed cage
 * align="left" | Deathclaw (presumably from nearby open Enclave Deathclaw cage, who went nuts and killed the Enclave Soldier)
 * 1
 * - align="center"
 * align="left" | Deathclaw corpse still in a closed cage
 * 1
 * - align="center"
 * align="left" | Deathclaw corpse still in a closed cage
 * align="left" | Deathclaw corpse still in a closed cage
 * - align="center"
 * align="left" | Enclave Scientist
 * - align="center"
 * align="left" | Enclave First Aid Box
 * - align="center"
 * align="left" | Enclave Crates
 * - align="center"
 * align="left" | Locked Footlocker (Average; with all sorts of good stuff in it, and is probably there before the Enclave appearance)


 * }

The placeholder can be something else aside from a "#". If it does not exist at a particular difficulty level, then some convention can be used such as "-" or "(none)". I use a couple of different table data separations to see which is easier to read/organize for the person editing.

I know that tables are a lot more complicated in the editing section, however, they allow for fast reference and organization. Also, the main differences between difficulty levels is likely the number of the forces faced and perhaps a slightly different mix (instead of a regular soldier there could be a Tesla clad soldier).


 * - Inculcated 23:05, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure I started this page, at least the checkpoint part, and I agree that consolidating it with tables would be visually more useful, so be my guest! :-)

Servius 23:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

RHO Camps
at Experimental Rho ID - aren't it the same as outposts described here?--dotz 11:33, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Little glitch
I started sniping (oustide of V.A.T.S.)the Enclave Troops at the checkpoint across form Arefu, and killed the soldier, the officer, and shot the gatling laser out of another soldier's hand. He ran away.... The next day, I came back, and the bodies were GONE. Except for the officer's brains, suspended in mid-air, appearing as though it froze there as soon as he died. Then, the soldier that I disarmed came walking back up, with a .32 pistol (?). He wasn't hostile, and when I spoke to him, he only reply was "Yeah?", and my only dialogue option was "See You Later". Anyone else run into a glitch remotely like this? TunnelSnake 16:41, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I have another glitch involving Alexandria Arms. It seems that there was a vertibird drop-off in the fenced parking lot next to the building with the raider who's got all those booby-traps and about five safes. (The building directly west of Alex. Arms). Anyway, the vertibird dropped off three enclave troops sporting fancy Tesla Armor and I killed them all. It seemed that the vertibird came back around and tried to pick them up, and when they didn't get on, it started behaving like a regular enclave checkpoint. These same soldiers respawn like everyone else. Is it me or is this a bug? 67.32.165.202 01:27, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Level 20
Does anyone else agree with me in saying that you should be level 20 before posting what kinds of troops are at these locations. It's not really a big deal but usually I get a face full of plasma when I was expecting lasers. While I'm at it most enemys in the game are affected by what level you are so maybe after you've wrote what enemys you've encountered on a certain quest you should mention what level you are.

National Guard Depot
When leaving the NGD and heading East toward the edge of the map there was an Enclave camp consisting of an officer, a soldier and a research scientist performing operations on wastelander corpses inside a crate. This was located amongst the ruined houses. Didn't want to add this to the main article because i'm not sure if this is a permanent location or a random encounter. Someone please confirm and add to the article.

Yes, confirmed about this location. Also if exit the NGD and walk to the left you will come across 2x Super Muties Overlords carrying Gatling Lasers who are battling 2x Raiders carrying Rocket Launchers. PG

Stealing 'Experimental Rho ID' doesnt kill officer.
Read the Experimental Rho ID article. You can steal a chip, officer will be fine, will have a new chip next time you visit. (PC 1.4, 1.5)

Enclave Occurances
Between the Nuka plant and Arlington Library - 3 recruits and an officer (dead) when I got there. The recruits continue doing push-ups when approached and were not hostile.

Mirelurk Enclave Research outpost - watching them from a distance - moved in and the officer executed his own men. The recruits had Enclave armour on, and no helmets carrying Laser pistols. Officer was hostile when approached. PG

Angle of the dangle
Has anyone ever found raiders fighting enclave and a radscorpion.. but the raiders were wearing the enclave's helmet? --96.243.180.70 11:26, 27 May 2009 (UTC) Yes, NE of the Chryslus Building, They respawn with the enclave stuff, looks like Raiders just took control of an Enclave Camp. --Carl565777 23:44, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Agatha's House Checkpoint
I could find the 1 Officer and 2 Soldiers going SE, Possibly just a random Patrol? --Carl565777 00:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Early Enclave with Broken Steel
A bit of Googling will reveal discussions elsewhere on the Web about Enclave troopers showing up before the Waters of Life with Broken Steel installed. I myself have encountered several early troopers (the main quest-line for my character is still at "Investigate Megaton" for Following in His Footsteps. I first noticed them when I was above level 20. They respawn in the same place every 72 hours, they have regular Enclave, Tesla, or Hellfire armor randomly, they're armed with plasma rifles, and they appear singly. I've found them in these places near the Deathclaw Sanctuary, near SatCom Array NW-07a, and near Rockbreaker's Last Gas. --69.246.52.80 01:12, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Interesting... I (without BS installed) keep bumping into a lone Enclave Soldier near Fort Constantine, somewhere in the cliffs above the Outcast Shack. Is this a bug, does anyone else get this?

I just found one about a minute ago near the ruined house with the silo between Megaton and the Super Duper Mart, which is weird because I was there the night before and the only thing there was Sam Warrick. I'm on my second day out of Vault 101 in my new file, and this really surprised me. He had a laser rifle and standard Enclave power armor. If this is a bug, then it's one I can't really complain about, because their gear is one hell of a good source of caps early in the game. Blutteufel 04:19, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I found a lone enclave soldier in basic enclave power armour and armed with a laser rifle, he had a few stimpaks, alot of MF cells, and i think some cram, but my quest was still at 'meet scientists at jefferson memorial' this was about two thirds of the way between the WKML radio station and fort constantine.Katikar 23:18, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Enclave recruits vs Outcasts -- Script?
Does anybody know the script for the event where the Outcasts kill the Enclave recruits? I've been trying to see that scene but every time I get there it's just the recruits and the officer. I tried spawning some Outcasts near there, but they'd just run into the fight instead of killing them in cold-blood.

Perhaps it's some kind of 'unique' Outcast patrol? In that case, does anybody know the refID so I can teleport near them and follow them to Nuka Cola Plant? Thanks in advance. 190.17.41.208 16:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

An Unrelenting Endless Army...?
I own the PS3 version of Fallout 3, so I don't have BS yet, and it'll a cold day in hell before I go out to buy an XBox 360 along with their version of the game just to play it. But I was wondering, is it true that even after you complete the final mision in BS, the Enclave soldiers will continue to respawn still? —Preceding comment was unsigned. Please sign your posts with ~ !

Yes they do, lazy programmers. Spoon 17:47, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

i only tested this at dukovs place by waiting 72 hours, and no soldiers respawned, even after fast travelling back and forth.

Difficulty
Am I correctly understanding the effects of game difficulty on the enclave camps and encounters? They mostly do not appear on very hard? How can that be? Would there just be empty barricades or would those not even get set up? In fact, lots of this looks rather sketchy. For example, in the Fort Banister check-point lists different loot boxes on Normal and Hard? What happens if you come back later on a different difficulty?

By the way, the quest after which the Enclave appear is Waters of Life, right? This is a Wiki not a walkthrough; we're not trying to spare the fragile masses from spoilers so please spell it out: "after Waters of Life," not "after their first appearance during the main quest." 129.55.200.20 18:02, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Enclave at Level 3
I was at level 3 on a new character and was exploring the house with Chinese Spec Ops Manual near the Super-Duper mart when I saw a giant ant which met an unfortunate end involving a baseball bat and a hell of a lot of mess! Anyhow I was moving towards the house (Headed towards the Potomac direction) when I got the [CAUTION] warning at the top of my screen, turns out it was an Enclave Soldier with a Laser Pistol and Laser Rifle (Although for some reason he was favouring the pistol, probably the only reason I survived) but I was amazed! Just to show you how early in the game it was I was going to collect food and medicine from the Mart, I hadn't been to GNR yet! ThePog 10:05, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Structural changes to the page
Please bear with me over the next week or so as I make some substantive changes to the page. Some additional material will be incorporated, and some larger sections may be spun off onto their own pages, with a summarised section retained detailing primary and/or notable points of interest.  phoenix   txt    10:15, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

I am wondering whether the Scripted Events section may be better in a table? Also need to verify that these are separate to the repeatable random encounters. May be a good idea to also add link to the random encounter page.  phoenix   txt    13:21, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Enclave Camp around Greyditch (I think) is Friendly???
Okay, so, long story short, I  think  I was on my way to Super-Duper Mart from the DC Ruins, and as I passed a large building, behind it was an Enclave Camp, however, it was FRIENDLY.

Not only that, but the troops had no helmets. There were three Enclave Soldiers in Enclave Power Armor, all helmet-less, doing PUSH-UPS. Like I said, I'm not sure where I was, all I know is that I saw it. The soldiers said things like "We don't want any trouble." or "We've got no time for wastelander scum like you."

If someone can get a position on this, please do, as I'd like to share it.

Here's some details.

It was right behind a large building, about as high as Super-Duper Mart from behind.

The ground they were exercising on was concrete, like a sidewalk, or parking lot.

There was an Enclave checkpoint-light-thing near them.

Several Enclave Crates were bunched up around the Enclave's metallic cover.

There was a medium-slant hill behind the soldiers.

Like I said, I'm not sure, all I know is that it's not listed on the page, and it was worth noting.

EDIT!!!: I believe it could also be the one close to the Nuka factory, as I went there recently too.

It is the one by the Nuka factory they are friendly and don't wear helmets

Please help me find it, InceptionPrime 03:42, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Some of these locations are not spawning Enclave
I wanted to load up on Tesla armor so I went here looking for some locations where Enclave show up, so far about half of these locations listed in this article do not have any Enclave or any Vertibird appearances even if I hang around for awhile or approach the area from different directions. Can we get someone to go through these locations and confirm each one or at least include if a specific action (like approaching from the east only) needs to happen in order to get the Enclave soldiers to show up?--65.27.167.139 13:20, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

Notes section in article has wrong info
It says that waiting at any Enclave checkpoint will cause Enclave soldiers to re-spawn. This is NOT true.

Enclave kill teams?

 * So I was walking west of the Citadel, when I saw a raider sniper up on a roof. As soon as I reached for my hunting rifle, a Vertibird arrived and the Enclave (normal armor, Tesla armor, lasers for weapons) killed the Raider. Elavenger209 22:08, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Merge suggestion
I think this article could be merged with Fallout 3 Enclave outposts do to duplication of content and similar purpose.--Xclockwatcher 19:06, November 14, 2011 (UTC)