Forum:Fool Me Once, Shame on Me, Fool Me Twice...

With the unprecedented number of programming glitches this game has, I no longer trust this game to be correct. On so many different levels! Obsidian made this game but it was Bethesda that published this turd with the creamy glitch-filled center.

I preordered this game along with a collector's edition game guide just like I did with FO3 (which had its own boatload of glitches, but caused me much less headaches than NV - but FO3 never left me playing feeling unsure if the game's code was entirely correct and being processed as intended). The latest patch (1.3 I think), which changed so many different Guns specs. ranging from spread and AP costs to bullet damage (and other stat changes), has made my guide much less useful and negatively affected some of my carefully thought out pre-game planning.

I suppose I'm partly to blame though. Despite my affinity for the Fallout series, I endured many glitch-induced headaches during my play-through of FO3. So what did I do with that in mind? I rewarded Bethesda's incompetence by giving them and Obsidian $60 for New Vegas and $30 add'l for the game guide. I understand there are deadlines and money is the ultimate goal for any company but...

I also realize that any game like this has to be a massive and very, very complex undertaking for the developer. On one level I marvel and respect the time and talent needed for a game of this size. I am impressed when I play a game that has such a huge world to explore. Considering all the quests, characters, and story-lines involved it's remarkable the game can run well enough to get the player from start to finish. Thousands, maybe millions of different possibilities can unfold during a play-through of a game such as Fallout. And all these different possible outcomes that occur while we play that can mesh seamlessly and maintain the integrity of the overall story and game play. That's an amazing achievement!

On the other hand though gamers like myself have been left with a game experience fraught with mostly harmless (but annoying) glitches. We also have been left with glitches which cause side quests that get stunted, incomplete or generally screwed, depending on where or how far a player is in the Main quest along with progress in other active side quests and how they affect each other. It's just a huge Goddamn mess at times. It's also a pain to redo a quest to get the outcome you want (or want to avoid)when in the back of your mind you're trying to stay sharp and avoid actions that interfere with other quests or make them impossible to complete - maybe even start. That is not the gamer's responsibility; it's the developers! That should have been ironed out during in-game development! With so many possible outcomes of various size and scale, the flow of the game has to be processed in such a manner that there are no procedural errors from the time you slide the disc in until hundreds of hours later when it is over or when you wish to stop - whichever comes first.

Their philosophy seems to be make the game playable and error free as possible by time of release deadline. The balance of the bugs, glitches, and whatnot that cause a game to crash repeatedly?? Well, that will be patched well after the time it goes on sale. And then we'll release another patch, then another, then another...Christ, save us all the bullshit! Release the game when it's actually passed QA. But that wouldn't sit well with the stock holders, would it?

At least we have this wiki. What so many gamers have taken their valuable time and energy to create and fine tune is now what I turn to for answers to my questions. So much so that I rarely even look at the game guide anymore since it is essentially in need of a revision. Only the CE Game Guide which came with a very handy map has been of real value. Even though this WIKI is not 100% accurate, thanks to its members it is always in a state of flux, getting tweaked, amended, and inching closer to being more complete and accurate every day that goes by.

I appreciate the time and effort a lot of gamers put into this WIKI as it gives us all a great reference tool and a forum to discuss and enjoy our different and unique gaming adventures across 3 systems! It's what gets me through New Vegas and all its problems. Next time I'll buy the game used so Bethesda get's their money from someone else. I sure don't want to reward their incompetence a third time.

Happy Trails! Favreorite 21:10, May 28, 2011 (UTC)