Forum:Xenotechnologist

Hi I have Fallout 3 at my Dads, but I'm getting the GoTY version this christmas at my mums, so I can play on it more often. I already have a character who specialises in Energy Weapons and Lockpicking, but for my 'new' character, I was thinking about using a 'Xenotechnologist' type idea, using only Alien weapons and having the Xenotech Expert perk and other related stuff. I've worked out that when using V.A.T.S the Drone Cannon is one of the most efficient Big Guns there is, and can Deal enough damage in a single round of V.A.T.S to overshadow the Heavy Incinerator and other such 'Endgame' Big Guns. I'm no sure what armour I'd use, but I think maybe the Chinese Stealth Suit Looks kinda Alien, and If I tag Sneak, Energy Weapons and Big Guns I should be able to specialise in those fields fairly well. My Main weapons would be the Alien Blaster (or Firelance if I can get it) and the Drone Cannon. I wanted to use The Drone Cannon Ex-b, but I've heard it targets the Floor in front of your enemy in V.A.T.S, and I rely quite heavily on V.A.T.S in combat since I like the concept. I would like your opinions on this build, I will likely drop Charisma down to 1 and Strength and Intelligence to 3 to Add more Points to Endurance, Perception and Agility, Leaving me with a 10/10/10 spread in those three by Level 3. I want Plenty of Action points since Grim Reapers Sprint doesn't come 'till late, and I plan to make my way To Mothership Zeta and the Anchorage simulation pretty quick.
 * my god, no offense first of all, there is a MAX of like 500 or so alien power cells, then you need to do all of mothership zeta before you get any of those, which is also quite limited, and the drone cannon sucks compared to Eugene or other big guns, you couldn't carry ANYTHING with your strength at 3, ud be fucked, and charisma 1? are u fucking insane? your health would be nothing, ud trip on a rock bump your head, then it'd shatter and ud die, you seriously need to rethink this strategy, no alien blaster or firelance unless you find really insanely tough enemy's, honestly your strategy sucks, id sit there with my STA and perforator/victory rifle from a distance and pop your head like a bean bag, rethink this strategy because ud run out of alien power cells and probly ammo for drone cannon, ud die a million times, your armor would always be broken due to always taking tons of damage, and god forbid you ran into a reaver or a mutant overlord, you'd be fucked in seconds, really, think this through, you cant play through using the most powerful items you find, there powerful because guess what? there ammo is unique, its rare, and it gets outclassed very fast.Toolazytomakeaaccount 20:00, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Well firstly, excluding those found with the Firelance (because that is very rare) there are 1128 Alien Power cells to be found, over double the amount you mentioned and EASILY enough to deal with tougher targets. Also, there is an unlimited supply of Alien Power Modules, All I have to do is Wait 24 Hours 10 Times and I can get 400, which should be enough to stock me up. There are also about 3000 of them scattered about on Mothership Zeta. As far as my experience goes, a Strength of higher than three is not needed 'till you've explored a bit, and Intense Training would allow me to have my strength at 5 by the time I get to Level 5. I'm going to go to the Operation: Anchorage Simulation STRAIGHT away, and then go right up to Mothership Zeta. By the time I've done those two, I should have Big Guns and Energy Weapons 100, so I'll be doing a massive amount of damage. And let me tell you, for a V.A.T.S Big Guns user, the Drone cannon is very good. For 90 APs (and lets face it it's pretty easy to get that many) you get three shots doing about 170 each time (with Bloody Mess and Ghoul Ecology + Superior Defender), enough to wipe out a Deathclaw in one round of shooting. Charisma sucks anyway. Speech is 100% useless, and Barter isn't brilliant, though I would probably put a few points into it. I wouldn't use the Alien Blaster for everything anyway, the Drone Cannon would be my main gun (or maybe the EX-b since I don't think it has the V.A.T.S glitch on PS3)and the Alien Blaster would be there to Kill Behemoths, Albino Radscorpions, SM Overlords and suchlike. Oh, and health is calculated from Endurance, which I would Have 10 of, so I would actually have a Very High health. I cannot work out why you thing that Eugene is better than The Drone Cannon - The Drone Cannon has Higher DPS, is more Ammo-efficient, cost less per shot and has the same weight. Honestly, no offense, but I think you need to get your facts right before you charge in spouting nonsense and Telling People 'ur strategy sucks'. There is not PvP in Fallout 3, but Honestly even if there was, I don't know how you expect to beat me. Say you use the victory Rifle, My DPS is over Three times yours, I'm just as hard to spot thanks to Chinese Stealth armour and It'd take you about 13 Shots to kill me! Knockdown effect or no Knockdown effect, I will likely be coming out on top. I don't know your character build, but I'd imagine you don't have More than 500 Health, so I shouldn't need more than 6 shots Max to kill you. Say your using the Perforator, I still Have over twice the DPS and Chinese Stealth Armour is uselss if your opponent is using V.A.T.S, while as a sniper I'd imagine you'd aim Freehand, meaning you'd find it hard to see me. 86.19.96.66 23:27, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * i admit i messed up on the charisma thing, i havn't played fallout 3 in a little bit, but regardless the drone cannons are inconvenient in enclosed spaces, my point was with perforator id just sit there and pwn masses of enemy's not seen once, yet if u went against say 100 super mutants, it wouldn't be impossible for you but could you do it without being shot once? without even being seen? picking them off one by one without even thinking about it, really, and there's an infinite exp and ammo glitch in operation anchorage...basically u get as much ammo as possible, go to final area, get in a sneak position, pull out a sniper since it does good damage, and one by one while in sneak mode pop every single Chinese idiot that runs out, one dies another spawns and u kill it, took me an hour to get to level 30, far too easy...regardless my main problem with your build really has nothing to do with you, I'm a light based gunner, i use STA and perforator and occasionally victory/gauss rifle and Lincoln's repeater, sometimes shishkehbab...but my main point was you had no strategy for using basic weapons, say u were doing the pitt, you don't get your items for a little while, if you were only equipped for big guns, which there is almost none in the pitt, ud have a tougher time, besides, why not replace the drone cannon with a tesla cannon? the ammo is definitely more plentiful even if it doesn't do as much damage, and the alien pistol is good, its strong and say u got all 1.1k of its ammo? my point stil stands, ud run out of ammo, at some point ud lose your big damage, then ud have to worry about super mutant overlords, and reavers, and albino scorpions, do you know just how common those things are at lvl 30? there frickin everywhere, for me every spawn point i run into that has scorpions has albino radscorpions, my advice to you is to get higher strength, since especially during mothership zeta, i had 10 strength and barely managed to carry all the special loot, let alone the repairing items for the special loot, god knows that was a pain in the ass, and as for the pitt? that was worse, and not as bad either, since there's more storage and you can go back, point lookout eh...not so bad either really, regardless your going in heads first without thinking about the consequences, since i spent forever doing stuff in operation anchorage and thought it out, i ended up lvl 30 and having 5m 5.56 mm ammo, which was pretty sweet combined with my unbreakable assault rifle, i may have forgotten some stuff about the game, but I've been playing it for years and i know that if you don't think ahead, you'll end up surrounded by ghouls in some metro station with your last bullet in a 32 caliber pistol praying to god you don't die, you need melee naturally so you could simply whack them over and over, if u keep a good melee weapon, a good long distance weapon, and a good in between weapon like Lincoln's repeater or backwater rifle, you cant lose, you want massive damage weapons? go ahead, but dont depend on something that's limited, what if both your weapons broke? if you didn't get enough epoxy or repairing equipment ud have nothing to fall back on, or even worse if you ended up with only your alien pistol, ud have to waste ammo that is precious, rare, i don't delude myself, i know even though i still have 2m 5.56 mm ammo left(half of it i made into 44 rounds)ill run out someday, maybe in a year or 2 but ill run out, then ill need an alternative, what better then my sniper rifle or my shotgun or even backwater rifle, think things through, don't depend on something you cant control as it were, if someone built a bridge out of the finest material and you countless times went over it knowing you were safe, what would you do if you found out it was starting to rot? to break? to crack? well if you were on it ud probly fall to your death...but besides the point, you cant depend on one thing or one person forever, time passes and whether or not your playing a game or living life, you cant let yourself get into a routine, because one day ud wake up and wonder what the fuck you did that led to everything being boring and pointless, hell some people get severe depression because of that, they realize they've lived a certain lifestyle for so long, there's no way they can change things, but I've drifted from my original point, always have a backup plan, that's my advice to you, always prepare for the inevitable, it doesn't matter if you die in a game, the problem is you might hit a point where you've hit level 30 and have no other weapons that are leveled up, like ud have a epic small gun but it'd be weaker because your small guns would be like, 30, oh yeh, and in case u weren't going to, always upgrade repair skill as well, that skill saves you countless in game money, and time also, oh yeh and don't bother really paying attention to the real life part i mentioned i was simply trying to prove a point, as you no doubt can tell.Toolazytomakeaaccount 01:14, December 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * Jeez, why don't you two just admit your love for each other and get it over with. I sense a big sloppy kiss coming!  LVTDUDE 02:20, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * i was just trying to teach someone something that it took me 4 play-through's to learn.Toolazytomakeaaccount 02:41, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Can we get a tl;dr up in here? Nitty Tok. 02:43, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Si.--Gothemasticator 06:16, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

-- The best laid plans of mice and men often go astray...in rpg's. Xdarkdragonx 19:06, December 14, 2009 (UTC)Dragon
 * i feel kinda hypocritical now because of how no my own forum in fallout new vegas i stated that how unkind it is to offer excessive and more mean spirited comments, sorry in advance to the person who started this specific forum.Toolazytomakeaaccount 19:20, December 14, 2009 (UTC)