Forum:Charisma or Speech?

I'm trying to figure out whether Speech or Charisma has a larger effect on Speech Checks. I'm currently running around with a set of Dirty Pre-War Businesswear, which gives +5 to Speech. However, I'm heading towards Paradise Falls (I'm on a Bobblehead collecting trip, and that's where the Speech one is), and I noticed from the Wiki that Eulogy Jones has an outfit that gives +2 Charisma (both hat and suit). Would I get more success rates for my Speech Checks with +5 Speech, or +2 Charisma? Swk3000 17:24, November 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, I think I've figured it out. I picked up Eulogy Jone's Outfit, and tested it out against Moira. The +2 Charisma got me a 10% boost to the Speech Check, while the +5 Speech only got me a 6% Boost. That means one point of Charisma is worth about 5%, while 5 Speech is worth about 6%. I'm therefore going with Eulogy's Hat and the Pre-War Businesswear. Swk3000 18:07, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

The formula you're looking for is listed on the Charisma page. Speech = 2+(charisma*2)+(luck/2) so you can see 1 point of Charisma will give you at least 4 Speech points (considering luck = 1) Perj 01:33, November 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * I understand that. I'm asking how those numbers relate to Speech Checks. Swk3000 17:14, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

To put it in simple turms, your speach chance is only determined by your speach skill. Charisma doesnt have a direct effect on it. Try doing this. Put on your Businesswear and bring up your pip-boy and look at you speach skill. Than put on eulogys suit and do the same. What ever rises you speach the most, stick with it.--Radiated Raider 00:23, November 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * What I was trying to explain is that Charisma has a greater effect than Speech. 1 point in Speech is just that, 1 point. 1 point in Charisma gives 4 or more Speech points. Perj 15:30, January 23, 2011 (UTC)