Talk:Sierra Madre

Im thinking the sierra madre air conditioning and climate control melded so im thinking snow is the birth of the meld

Removed from the Notes section
I removed "It is referenced in President Kimball's speech, when he rewarded the Sierra Madre star to Private First Class Jeremy Watson." Since the entry is about the setting where the DLC takes place and the NCR medal is more likely to be named after the mountain range then a dilapidated hotel and casino in Nevada. - TandyBomb 18:41, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

"Swarve," should probably be replaced with "Suave."--OvaltinePatrol 17:27, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

How to get there
How do you get to the sierra madre?

I think it's clear that you're kidnapped... Okay sorry. Basically, when the DLC is loaded a new radio station is found. In my game, it popped up when I fast traveled to New Vegas. You then get a quest to find the source of the radio signal, with the quest marker leading you to the Abandoned Brotherhood of Steel Bunker outside of Camp Forlorn Hope. You can go down there and explore a bit before you hit a point where you are warnned that going past a certain point will take you to the Sierra Madre - TandyBomb 16:40, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Then, technically speaking, you are knocked unconcious with gas and Dog puts a bomb collar on you and drags you there. It's a little bit ambiguous how you get back, though, as you cannot find your way there again once you leave.

how do you get back after leaving?


 * Put simply, you don't. It's kind of like Operation: Anchorage; after the simulation, you can't go back to Anchorage. You should be able to, but you can't. It's the same principle with Dead Money. Best regards, Kasteratalk 03:32, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

that blows

Casino rewards and ban
The notes regarding the casino payouts should be use to make a separate "Rewards and ban" section like all the other casino pages. Any objections? Minor Edits 07:21, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, done.Minor Edits 21:08, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * If you like, there's an entire article dedicated to them at Big Winner, Sierra Madre. --Flower of Pock-Lips 21:14, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm totally fine with putting all the casino info on that page and just linking to it on this page, if that's what you're suggesting. This page seems to be serving too many purposes. Minor Edits 21:53, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * The winnings requirement for the Complimentary Voucher (and the Free Chips (1000) unlock code) is 7000 chips, not 7500 chips.174.0.106.101 12:21, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * The winnings requirement for the 3rd comp (Complimentary Voucher) is 7500, not 7000. I got pulled away at 7500 chips playing blackjack, doing a double down with 7100 chips won so far. So no more editing it back 7000+. Big Winner, Sierra Madre ScreamingFalcon 03:43, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Sierra Madre Location
Two things:
 * 1) Shouldn't any discussion of the location of the Villa, casino, et al., be moved to the main Dead money page? I mention this because this seems to be an article specifically about the Sierra Madre casino, which would obviously be located with the rest of the town.  I just want to check in to see if anyone has a problem with me moving this info...
 * 2) Any new consensus on said location? The current suggestions of California or Mexico seem unsatisfactory, at least to me, as there is no indication whatsoever that either California or Mexican gaming law in Fallout differs from real-world gaming laws in these places, which prohibit casinos in both places (with the exception of Californian casinos falling under the auspices of the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act of 1988, which seem irrelevant given a total lack of evidence that Frederick Sinclair had any sort of Native American heritage).  The prevalence of English, the abundance of pre-War American money, and the Sierra Madre's dual purpose as an unofficial Vault all suggest an American location, but most likely a location in Nevada - probably somewhere in the southeastern part of the state, given its location in the Mojave and the total lack of NCR traffic in the area.  Any thoughts?

Look, I know these are pretty niggling, petty questions, but isn't that what a wiki is for? Thanks in advance for any thoughts or suggestions.

The Sierra Madre is a real location in the world. It is north of the Rio Grande, in between the river and parts of Nevada and Arizona.

Macmanius 02:38, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

The Sierra Madre's location is somewhere in the west of the Mojave, past the mountains. I found this out by markinga spot in the Sierra Madre, and then I went back to the Mojave wasteland. Then I looked at the world map and saw that the Sierra Madre was still marked. I printscreened it: http://img202.imageshack.us/i/sierramadrelocation.jpg/

^ In regards to the above: I got curious about this and set a marker dead center of the World Map while still in the Villa. Upon my return to the Mojave Wasteland, I discovered my marker dead center in the Mojave World Map (somewhere around Hidden Valley, if I recall). So, consequently, that's not a way to stake out a location for the Sierra Madre resort.

Still a somewhat plausible location, though - can't get to it by normal means, and you wouldn't be able to get near enough to eyeball any sign of the Cloud. If the official release didn't go out of its way to say it was in the Mojave, I'd be content to say it was safely off-map somewhere to the extreme northwest or so. It still could be, really - geographically, it's still a safe bet that it could be somewhere beyond the wreckage blocking the 95 highway, just beyond the side-road leading up Mt. Charleston to Jacobstown.

Unless it turns out that the Big Empty happens to be out there somewhere. The inaccessible northwest part of the map leaves a lot to be speculated on.

sigh
I've repeatedly had to change "7,500 chips" (for the complimentary voucher unlock code) back to "7,000 chips" on this and related pages. It's 7000. Say it with me: "7000" Not 7,500. Everybody got that? 7,000 chips. Kindly stop reverting it to 7,500 as this is incorrect.174.0.106.101 06:43, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

No, sorry, but you are incorrect. It is indeed 7500, not 7000. So, say it with me, 7500 chips. ScreamingFalcon 03:45, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

It is 7500. I had 7491 chips, and no voucher. 7500, I got it.

Possible Bug? (PC version)
After powering up the casino (via Put the Beast Down) and thereby activating the holograms (Cashier etc.) in the gambling area, it seems impossible for me to actually gamble since I constantly get a "You have to buy chips..." message when I try the slots or Blackjack or Roulette -- although I have more than 2400 chips at hand.

Even dropping the chips on the floor (or storing them in a container) and exchanging new ones from the Cashier didn't work, and neither does leaving and re-entering the casino.

Is this a possible bug or a glitch? Or aren't we supposed to gamble at this stage of the game? -- 93.199.64.186 13:15, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Caravan Deck
Aside from the Dead Man's Hand scattered throughout the Sierra Madre and Villa, are there any other cards for an entire Sierra Madre deck? -Malus X 00:47, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Fast Travel
Can you fast travel from location to location here, or is it like OA? --74.243.111.5 01:40, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Possibly worth noting
I Checked the meaning "Sierra madre" The most direct translation is "Saw mother" As in, the saw that cuts things. Considering the nature of this DLC, I think maybe worth noting in behind the scenes.


 * I think it's more likely to be inspired by Sierra Madre, California and the Sierra Madre Villa Hotel. --Actreal 05:49, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Suppy/Shipping/Transportation?
How did the supplys to biuld the Sierra Madre get to the Casino Hotel and the Villa by proxy, if you couldn't bring some sort of vehicle into the city? Shouldn't there be some sort of electric powered golf cart sized vehicle for maintanance crews, police, or even to shuttle guests from one end of the villa to the other?

Also shouldn't there be some sort of vehicle hub on outside (or in the outskirts)of the Villa? Ex. Train terminal, Truck Depo, Parking Lot, etc...--Ant2242 00:45, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Sierra Madre's Postcards
There are Postcards of the Sierra Madre in the East Pump station, are there any pictures of them on the Vault? If not we need them for the articles.--Ant2242 01:54, 10 December 2012 (UTC)