Talk:Oh my Papa

Thank goodness someone figured out how to start this quest, it was driving me nuts.

Glitched?
Does anyone know if this quest is glitched? I got the quest by talking to Regis and took this route just because I wanted to take a diplomatic approach. Then for some reason no conversation options show up to do anything else regarding "oh my papa". And yes I did get Karl's journal, but still nothing comes up. I don't know if this matters, but originally I went to Red Rock Canyon in order to do the "For the Republic, part 2" quest that I got from Colonel Moore.--97.204.183.38 08:37, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Initiating the Quest.
I found that to start the quest you first had to talk to papa khan about breaking the alliance, then once you left the longhouse Regis would talk to you and the quest would start from there. --203.213.29.91 08:07, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Can't find Melissa!
I have already completed Don't Make A Beggar Of Me and can't remember how I completed the quest but she isn't at the camp! Help!

-> You got a few option here...

1. She is on a random patrol 2.a She got killed by something before the quest. 2.b If this is the case her part should be auto-completed by the game. 3. She is in the blue-hell of the game(Glitch). 4. ... corrupted save ?? ( I'm out of options... ) Hope this helpsSerphilith 22:26, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Regis Glitch?
I started off this quest by disgracing Karl in front of Papa Khan with the speech option (not journal) and then proceeded to convince each of the other Khans to switch their stance on the alliance. Problem is I cant get Regis to switch sides even after acquiring the journal from Karl's footlocker in the longhouse. The marker for the journal on the map disappears after picking it up and reading it but no conversation option to present it to Regis appears when I interact with him. Is there another quest of event that has to occur before the switch can take place or is this a glitch that will prevent me from completing this? Reloading or waiting a number of hours has no effect on this. Very frustrating.

-> I got the same problem going to get the other book in ceasar's camp with a Stealth Boy... :P I'll report later. Serphilith 17:22, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

'''-> I can confirm that taking the book from Caesar's Tent will complete the Regis part of the quest... So all have fun going there.'''Serphilith 22:19, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Standing with Legion
Does taking part in/completing this quest lessen your standing with the Legion? I'm trying to stay neutral with them. --OverlordXenu 19:06, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Workaround
If you get the Melissa glitch where she doesn't appear, or you've got problems with convincing Regis, you might be able to go back to Colonel Moore and tell her of a potential NCR/Khan alliance, it will allow you to state that Reagis (Khan's second-in-command) is open for such an alliance and that Papa Khan is dead set against it. Colonel Moore will then ask you to Assassinate Papa Khan without being discovered. (You can sneak to the back of his hut at night with a Lockpick skill of 75+ to open a door directly into his room and kill him while he's in bed) Do it correctly (by not getting discovered) and you can then speak to Reagis who will agree with the NCR Alliance.

Another bugged scenario
I have Oh My Papa and For the Republic, Part 2. I have convinved the 4 Khans, discredited Karl, and spoken with Papa's son about an alliance with NCR.

For "For the Republic, Part 2", the single remaining point is to meet with the Great Khans and either enlist their aid or destroy them. For "Oh My Papa", there are 3 remaining points:
 * Bring the book (on the Mongols, from the Followers guy at 188) back to Papa
 * Talk to the Colonel about an alliance with the Great Khans
 * Talk with Papa about breaking the alliance with the Legion

From this point, no matter what I do, no matter what conversation routes I take with Papa, I cannot get the Colonel to talk with me about an alliance with the Great Khans. The bug is NOT restricted to using a Speech check in any of the dialogue options, as is currently stated in the Bugs section on the main page.

Any ideas? Is there a console command I can enter to force a conclusion to this quest that has the Great Khans allied to NCR?

Servius 13:18, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

-> I had this problem. After trying several different paths, I ended up simply assassinating Papa Khan. This caused Oh My Papa to fail, but opened up the alliance dialogue with Regis and Colonel Moore, giving the appropriate responses in For The Republic II and Wild Card: Side Bets. UntimelyTea 23:02, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

- I had the same problem. I had to revert to a previous save right after I grabbed the book from Caesar's place and right before I talked to Regis/Papa Khan. I stole Papa Khan's key and then snuck in his room at night, put C4 on him, detonated it and went back to Regis. I was able to bring up the alliance with NCR and skip a step with Col Moore. When I went back to her I finally had the option that said something like "The Khans are on our side now".

-- I have a different sort of bugged glitch on this quest. So far I've stuck with the NCR, done all main, and side quests. Went to the fort and killed the entire legion aside from the kids running around and the slaves. Killed caesar, and even had the slave manifest before starting the quest with the great khans. Upon starting "For the Republic 2" and speaking to Moore who tells me to solve the Khan problem, I go to the longhouse and initate the quest, only to fast travel and no longer have the quest appear in my current quests tab. It has no been failed either. It just vanishes, and I can't continue the quest. I'm going to revert an hour back to a previous save, but this is ridiculous. I can't start the quest over. Also, take into point that I've been vilified at Red Rock Canyon for quite some time now, and killed most of the hostile khans, save a few that I assume are story based and didn't attack.