Forum:The Setting Of The Next Fallout?

"Well, it's likely there won't be another Single player, as a Fallout MMO has been in the works for a while and they are in the midst of legal wrangling at the moment. I think you'll have to wait to see how that all works out before we'll know if we get an MMO, or a future single player."

that's not at all true because Bethesda would not be the ones creating the fallout mmo, interplay would, and Bethesda wants to keep the fallout series just like the elder scrolls series

This is one of the endings for the Great Khans that shows in the cutscenes at the end of New Vegas. I feel like we didn't learn enough about the Great Khans, and would love to explore their "mighty empire"

Cutscene quote:

"During the Battle of Hoover Dam, the Great Khans quickly evacuated Red Rock Canyon and headed north and east into the plains of Wyoming. There, they reconnected with the Followers of the Apocalypse and rebuilt their strength. Bolstered by ancient knowledge of governance, economics, and transportation, they carved a mighty empire out of the ruins of the Northwest."

-Hemms2

You have to put tittyvsprinkles on it

I had two ideas the other day. The first would be (since I live in NH) Fallout: New England. Complete with mutant moose, radioactive clam chowder and wandering around the Boston ruins looking for 200 year old bottles of maple syrup.

The other idea I had was to have the next Fallout take place in and around Hollywood. That could be interesting with gangs named after the old movie studios. And then you discover a group of ghouls trying to revitalize the adult film industry.

-Shockeye

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Well, it's likely there won't be another Single player, as a Fallout MMO has been in the works for a while and they are in the midst of legal wrangling at the moment. I think you'll have to wait to see how that all works out before we'll know if we get an MMO, or a future single player.

-Nanokiss 03:29, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

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Unfortunate that the ending is subjective. You can completely wipe out the Khans or they work with Caesar. So unless the decide to make it canon (which they won't. Piss off all the evil players. Could get nasty.) Looks like it won't happen.

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I had two settings in mind; Either a northern midwest with harsh tempatures and abominable snowmen Or a southwestern setting with cowboys and more exploring into the texan brotherhood of steel.
 * There is no Texas Brotherhood as far as Bethesda is concerned. Nitty Tok. 01:58, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

The settings of F3 & NV, Washington and Las Vegas, suggest the developers have decided that using iconic locations appeals to players and they're probably right, both are familiar even to those of us living outside the US. So the next game will probably be set in a similar location, as they've already used southern California, I'd bet on New York or New Orleans. Bwilderbeast 17:52, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Me? I honestly don't care just so long as it's not another bug-ridden pile of excuses committed to Disk and called a game! If it's a MMORPG then I shan't bother because, since the advent of live TV streaming, my internet connection has all the speed and reliability of a brick falling upward into the sky nowadays - especially at peak viewing times. (P3dantic) 86.133.52.220 00:53, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

New York would be a good Location, Same with Hollywood. But if thers one place i would like to see is mexico, Raul tells you all about stuff in and around mexico. and i think it would make a great Setting for the next fallout game Xxfallout turkeyxx 01:29, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

My guess would be Chicago. We know there is an Enclave base there (ED-E) and it fits the iconic location mold.

I think the reason New Vegas is so poor is that the developers thought that simply setting the game in LAs Vegas would be so cool that they wouldn't have to bother with actual game content, the kind of cool stuff that filled up the captial wasteland so well.

Similarly setting it in another "A list" location like Holly Wood could lead to the same disaster all over again.

What I liked (in hindsite) about FO3 was clearing out the ghouls from and exploring the subways. Of course I really liked other parts too.

So for me another sequel should be set somehwere with a good subway system but that isn't so full of itself that we are expected to be in awe of just simply being there. Gunner Bill 10:23, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

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i loved travelling through the subways to get to the different parts of DC, but too much subway action will make the game seem like Metro 2033.

I would like to see them go back to Cali to see the whats happening with the NCR, to see how many more places are under their rule like New Reno, Redding, The Den, Klamath, Arroyo, Gecko and Vault City. Also how the WestBoS is fairing in the war against the NCR and what the NCR is doing in Baja. I would also like to see what life is like east of New Vegas in Legion territory. I want to see Flagstaff, Twosun, Denver and Los Alamos Nuclear Testing Facility (The Reservation). To see what citizens of the Legion think of life under Caesar and whether its better or worse than NCR.

I think that would help people choose who will take over New Vegas. GodVsSanta 12:09, February 4, 2011 (UTC) New orleans sounds pretty good judging how successful point lookout was i personally wouldnt mind a whole point lookout type game set in louisianaFryingpan57 06:02, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Actaully what I don't want is to have to choose sides in such an absolute and final way as with FONV Gunner Bill 09:23, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Fallout 4, will most likely take place in the Commonwealth area near Boston,Mascheutuses sorru i can't spell it the amount of refrences to it and the fact that even Ausir thinks it will take place there hints to it being the setting of Fallout,though Bethesda could hire Obsidian to make another Spin off, once Fallout 4 is out,it seems that bethesda will continue making games on the east coast,while Obsidian focuses on the west coast.Android player character here i come!!! User:Kaminoman

I have an idea for the Commonwealth. You have these bigs factions, like The Institute, The Railroad, Silencers(stealthy raiders), Reapers(Cut-throat raiders), a post-war government like the NCR exists(They have heard stories of the NCR but dont believe they are a threat to the nation). A war is underway between the newly formed government and The Institute over The Institute's technology and medicine. This war is just like the annexation of Vault City to the NCR but this annexation has become a full out war. The Railroad meantime is trying to removed the enslaved androids the Institute has and human slaves to the two raider tribes. On the coast there are thousands of Mirelurks, and hostile mutated fish if you swim in the ocean(There are also reports of a 40 foot sea monster), Inland in the swamps of Massachusetts, there are bloatflies, deathclaws, yao gui, mole rats, and in the Hockomock Swamp(Evil Spirit Swamp in-game) a good number of feral ghouls. You can explore the Worchester and Brockton Ruins. Very few insects and reptiles can live up here in the New England Commonwealth do to the harsh weather.--Zachattak471 04:06, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

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What i would like the next fallout in New York. what would probably work would be the different boroughs are gangs and you have to choose a side and play walking the streets of times square, the giant subway system, the pure chaos of pretty much everywhere in New York. Not only would the story be easy to develop but it would be fun to play. there would be stray dogs and giant feral cats(from radiation), super mutants, and alligators in the sewers.

Or we get out of America.

If the next fallout was based in London, that has infinite potential to be the best fallout in the series. The places you could go would be limitless, and it would just work really really well. You have the palace, the museums, the tower of london, and all the great attractions that could really be made to good use in a game like fallout. I think wherever they decide to make the next fallout will turn out good. -Sando - I think it should take place in the south(i.e-Georgia, Alabama, Florida). Because its like the apocolyspe down here

NEW CANADA PEOPLE. EH? jk jk jk lol i think SF in cali would be pretty sweet. - I agree with the South, but I think the coolest place would be in New Orleans. Imagine what Mardi Gras world would look like in the Fallout universe!

Atlanta as a central focus would be amazing; though I'd be completely content with New Orleans... Or perhaps Savannah Georgia? That would be awesome. Bah, best of all- a Disney World knockoff- if they got it anything like the actual parks, that'd give PLENTY of space, tunnels for ghouls, and so on and so forth.

-FollowerOliver

Chicago or even the Commonwealth would be fun locations. The only problem i would have with the south is that it would bring back some ... not so happy memories of L4D2.

--Post2394 14:09, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Everyone keeps taking about places in America, you all do know there is a whole world left. What about Europe how has it been effected by the great war or Asia. Open your mind a bit more for better ideas than just parts of America.

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86.135.201.53 16:13, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

-- I agree with the idea of having the next game take place in New York City. I actually had an idea of what the place would be like. Basically it would be similar to Las Vegas in the sense that it was hardly touched by nuclear shells, the ones meant to hit the city fell off target and landed in the Hudson, but the city has been heavily affected by the irradiated water surrounding Manhattan. The bridges have been destroyed by the shock wave of the nearby bombs and the only way in and out of the city is by way of a ferry. The city has fallen victim to several raider tribes that have vandalized the city. That's as far as I've really thought about it but another location I do like the sound of is New Orleans. I also agree with taking Fallout across the sea. There's very little we know about the situation outside of America. Thedarkscythe 05:48, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

I'd love to see China. I mean see what happened on the other side of the Great War. If any of our nukes hit them and what technologies they were developing before the world went to hell. --Post2394 01:30, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Fallout: Mo Town. That's Detroit, the motor city, for you gents who don't know Mo Town. It can center around 8 mile road, maybe have Emenim do the theme song and have each of the major car companies have a factory inhabited by different factions, example, the Ford's, and the Chrysler's, and the General Motor's, aka GMers. Visit Mo Town Records, which serves as a radio station in the fallout future. It could have a Kid Rock museum, well that might be going a little too far, but you get my drift.108.98.229.72 07:37, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

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i dont see the location as a priority, im more concerned about the game play and story. i thought new vegas was gunna be a million times better than FO3 but it was half arsed from start to finish. non of it was engaging, and every situation could be sorted by having a high speech skill. bring back the mindless violence! war never changes unless everyone turns into a pussy and can be talked out of destroying a whole faction! back to the point of this thread, id love to see the next fallout set in new york although its abit of a cleche. alaska would be alright too, and hollywood is a good idea but i think it would be the same as new vegas, a cool place doesnt make a cool game. -JoshGDC

A place that I believe would be an interesting setting for the next fallout game would be somewhere like san francisco or another big city. I also wanto to vist alcatraz in fallout.

They are going to follow Van Buren. I can say with 100% certainty New Vegas is basically 50% Van Buren with parts new and borrowed from as far back as Wasteland. Well thats for the dlc but the next fallout....man that would be....well it would be online...?

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First of all, I totally agree with JoshGDC, the New Vegas was good but not as good as FO3, and well ofc its hard to defeat FO3's awesomnes in its totally fun setup. FO3 is the only game that i fell in love even it didnt have Multiplayer, and kinda thats what i love in FO, theres no such things as  Team Deathmatch  or  CTF  d: If FO3 could have a multiplayer i would love if it could be kinda like WOW has, playing with friends and searching the Wasteland and/or with the city's for exiting adventures :)

But i would love if the new site was:

AMERICA: - San Fransico: Golden Gate, Alcatraz etc.

- NY: it would be so intresting to see like Statue Of Liberty, Mabye WTC ruins, Chrysler Tower etc.

- Chicago: Big city

For Europe And Asia:

- TOKIO: for the techonolgy that they have built and how it has effect after Great War, also the old Japan Samurai Culture would be nice to see in-game.

- London: Big Ben and cause its big city.

- Paris: Louvre, Eiffel Tower..

Thx for reading ( if u even readed ) -3psu

If I had to guess, I'd say it will return to the East Coast; part of Bethesda's logic in moving the setting of the game was not just to create a new setting, but to create a world all their own (thus allowing them to have greater creative control over it). Quite frankly, with New Vegas I get the sense they were really just throwing a bone to the old-school fans of the first two games, while giving themselves the freedom to turn their attention to this new setting without alienating too many players.

The East Coast certainly has ALOT of potential, particularly when you consider the events of Fallout 3; the Capital Wasteland now has access to the most advanced technologies of Pre-War America (ala the DC area and The Pitt), the Brotherhood, the Enclave, and even the aliens, combined with all the pure water they could ever need from Project Purity... This leads me to believe we're going to see the rise of some new state/nation/empire/what-have-you similar to the NCR, except much more technologically advanced. This would provide an excellent new faction for any future adventures on the East Coast, and may eventually even lead to something such as a possible power struggle between said group and the NCR.

Granted, right now this is all speculative, but considering the precedents set by the other Fallout games and being aware of Bethesda's storytelling inclinations, it all is quite plausible. -- Haegemonia ( talk ) 18:19, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

^^^^ That makes a lot of sense. I'd like to see the South, or maybe a new country (unlikely, seeing as Fallout is the story of America post-war) but the East seems like Bethesda's zone. Like a new James Bond or something, they're staking an area out for themselves. Mr. Tank 17:48, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

I can't believe no one has suggested Fallout: Miami. You have to picture going forward from the 50's and 50's Miami would be a great setting for a fallout game. A DLC could be Cape Canveral, it fits well with the futuristic/space feel.

How about Canada? no? ok then mexico, the location would have to be a theme. Fallout 3 had a theme of Rebirth the enclave were the governments remnants trying to rebirth America lead by President Alex Delarge {thats a clockwork orange reference kiddos} The Purifiers Rebirthed the radioactive water {by fallout science standards apparently} Harolds Quest Rebirthed nature, Etc. Fallout : New Vegas theme is Lifes a Gamble. and sometimes the game is rigged from the start. So you would have to apply a Theme that the next game would beat us over the head with

DoctorJay 01:58, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Either Van Buren or online with Van Buren...68.229.224.66 02:01, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

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I think that anywhere outside the USA is off-limits, because the lore and the way the series is. It is supposed to be based off of 60s-era America, and a majority of the lore and setting is very deep into that. Making a FO game in Europe (which I would love, and would surely beat FO3 as the best of them all) would be absolutely amazing, in terms of the setting, story, and gameplay, but it would be redefining Fallout. It most likely would end up being considered a spin-off series by the community and dev teams.

Most likely, they would choose NYC. The potential there is great, the ideas spinning around are good enough to make you drool over it. The only problem would be that the main area of the game world (in all the FO games) is vast, open land. NYC is just continuous cityscape. Imagine the DC metro area (with the metro tunnels and all) taking up the entire map. I loved the whole big city idea, but imagine playing an entire 200+ hour game in the DC metro area, completely neglecting the Capital Wasteland. That would not get very far...

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I really would like to see a San Francisco bay area setting. Think of all the excellent landscapes and amazing buildings to traverse (Alcatraz anyone?) Portfan 19:55, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

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I worry that New York City has been done to death in these post-apocalyptic scenarios, though I reckon a Fallout spin might give it a new dimension. One thing I wouldn't want to see is a game outside of America. I've just never seen an American company do a game outside of America and not have cringe worthy accents (although I'm an Australian who's just bought Dead Island so I may be biased right now). I also think it would be a mine-field trying to not make it to trite and not make it too two dimensional when dealing with other cultures like Japan and their Samurai. TheSloth92

If I may, idk where they plan to go next, but I will say that if they go anywhere besides the west coast, there will not be any Brotherhood of Steel, not unless they come up with some poor excuse for them to send another chapter way out east. Seeing as how the last time they did that the chapter went rogue, I don't think the Brotherhood would be too keen on the idea of sending out more people, along with their energy weapons and power armor, so far from their HQ. And if the Mojave chapter ends up getting killed, I'd think the main Brotherhood would be lacking the manpower to be sending away more of their troops, especially since they are still engaged with the NCR. The only other alternative would be to pack up their gear and move elsewhere, abandoning the west coast entirely, and I'm pretty sure the Brotherhood Elders are too stubborn to come to that decision. Also, there will not be any super mutants either, unless they come up with some wildly ridiculous reason for there to be yet another facility researching FEV, resulting in a 3rd strain of super mutants different from the Mariposa Mutants and the Vault 87 Mutants, and I don't see two vaults conducting the same experiment. Also, NO ENCLAVE! The reasons should be obvious. But to answer the original question, I don't really care where they go, as long as the game has a good story and doesn't have a metric f*** ton of bugs. If I had to choose, I'd say Bethesda will probably go back to the east coast. Seeing how things are in the Capital Wasteland now that the Enclave, Super Mutants, and probably even the Talon Mercs have been dealt with would be nice, though not much of a fun game. Going to the Commonwealth might be cool, however whoever suggested NCR vs The Institute that's just stupid. The NCR have enough trouble trying to take the Mojave from Mr. House and Caesar's Legion. Even if they won, do you really think they'd have the manpower and resources to fight their way through 4 states of Legion territory and get all the way across America to the east? One thing no one has suggested was some more northern states (besides New York), like North Dakota, Minnesota, Vermont, or Maine. And I agree that Fallout should be kept in the USA, because that is what Fallout is about; post-apocalyptic America. Sorry about the long post. 21:51, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

I think the setting should take place in the North West and Canadian border. There is also a forming goverment that challenges the NCR and war breaks out. Now this will have to take place years after FO:NV to get rid of the Legion all together(maybe tribes that are descendants of Legion). The story should follow the war and its battle. Both similar on the outside, but on the inside they are different. --Nokazoa 23:44, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

I'd like to see the Northeast explored. I get the point that New York would like the big wide open spaces but there's no reason the game couldn't take you to a 'closed' area of New York to play around in. Imagine all the skyscrapers toppled into each other making bridges. You wouldn't even have to touch the actual ground.--MikeJTanner 00:08, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

i agree new york i know its clche and i know i spelld cleche wrong but everyone at some point wanted to see n.y.c. nuked so bethes,interplay,obsid, someone let have it what about brookland its a small island or san fran i know i know everyone has seen the crap youtube vids but think the golden gate how cool or my home place the south east some where south of the mason dixson line east of the mississip hell FL or GA the virginas --Gogoloco 06:25, October 5, 2011 (UTC) ________________________________________________________________

Bethesda have already said that they wouldn't do somewhere not in America as they feel that they wouldn't be able to put the detail in for somewhere they do not know so well. So no location outside of America! They wouldn't do New York because that would be so ridiculously clichéd; super-mutant taxis anyone? They might do New Orleans, but I bet would be the North-East of America in New England, given all the references in FO3 and F:NV.

My idea would be that the Institute has dominated the former New England Commonwealth and forced the surviving groups into submission. The game itself would be set in Maine and you would have to help the scattered groups there rebel against the Institute's forces (like robot legions, mind-wiped raiders and mercenaries). In terms of story choice, it would be between the total anarchy of F:NV and the cookie-cutter black/white choices of F03 - so you would have to help the rebels, but there would be a brutal plot-twist where you can choose between committing yourself to the cause or finding something about your lost family, for example. This way the canon could be more easily defined, and also I would hope there to be very few F:NV references (apart from Mr House's youth) and only a few from F03.

If would not be the North-West, I'd like to see the North-East with Washington and Oregon. Have NCR encroachment to the south maybe? Or maybe Kentucky/Tennessee? Q-35 09:23, October 5, 2011 (UTC) _________________________________________________________________

I'm from near NYC so of coarse I would want it to be there but only a few places would be practical like the Bronx & Harlem maybe New Jersey and suburbs like Yonkers and Westchester. Or the twin cities or even KC Missouri and Kansas. I wouldn't mind seeing it take place in Western New York like Buffalo to Niagra and Fredonia/Dunkirk into Penn. i dunno what the story would be