Forum:No Music was ever produced from 1950 to 2077?

Okay so am I the only person who has noticed that they never produce ORIGNAL radio music for the Fallout games, but only get lisences to put existing music from our 30's'40's 50's.

I mean in New Vegas and Fallout 3, they never had an orignal "retro futuristic" song added (with the exception of Vera Keys songs), I mean do they seriously expect people to believe that all the music ever made from 1950 to 2077 was lost when the bombs fell?

Like seriously, come on.

NCR RANGER 0:31, September 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think that it's because it would take a lot of time and money for them to produce original songs, when they can just as easily get a license for a pre-existing, popular song and add it to the game. I understand what you mean though - it's as if all music ever made stopped once the divergence began. Yes Man default.png 06:34, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yea but take a look at the Grand Theft Auto franchise, not only do they produce orignal music in their games, but they even manage to match the music to the era each title takes place in.

NCR RANGER 0:49, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

So you want them to find music from the future ?! nah, just kiddin , i know what you mean , but its a bit difficult to write songs just for the game , i dont even listen to the radio on the Fo3 and FO:NV ,i prefer the sounds of the wasteland over it :P --

original music would be a good idea, it would add more flavor to the game. I mean some of the songs were good but its not fitting that people would just keep listening to songs that have lyrics that dont mean anything to them anymore. they need songs that talk about things people can relate to now, like deathclaws and supermutans- life in the wastes. i like checking the radio every now and then. i like to hear reports on my deeds. too bad it repeats so much.JimmyDreznaut017 20:21, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Well the lazy canon sounding answer would be to say that newer forms of music were recorded on devices of too low a quality to survive nuclear holocaust. Or that, the government feared new forms of music and thought this idea was communist in some crazy way. In real life the HAAC thought that Rock N' Roll was a communist weapon, and in the world of Fallout this could have been enough for drastic actions.

Honestly though it probably came down to developement teams saying would they rather have music (something we as players can easily just turn on a radio in real life) or have more quest, weapons, or something that is much harder to be obtained. Even though great mods are out there, console gamers can't get to them, and some pc gamers are to paranoid to trust mod download sites.

Also, while they could make new songs that feel authentic, something about hearing these old classics gives off an eerie nostalgic feel.

My two cents anyway XxSick DemonxX 22:44, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

It's more about being realistic. Most instruments were destroyed when the bombs fell. Vault-Tec collected famous musicians of North America and put them all into Vault 92. Everyone in that vault died and pretty much the only instrument left was the Soil Stradivarius. Bethesda/Obsidian can't just make new music that keeps to that style and expect people to accept that it came from nowhere.

And expanding on what XxSickDemonxX said, if they were to create new songs in the styles of music from the 1930s, '40s and '50s, it would kind of ruin the vibe you get from playing music created by people who have been dead for over 2 centuries. The idea is that the world we (people around at that time) once knew is long since dead, and has been replaced a ravanged, mostly inhospitable wasteland, devoid of a tight (and I use the word loosely, no pun intended) civilisation. Now there are small communities, afraid of leaving the safety of home, and so anyone listening to said music, is likely to have accepted their fate. --Tag! 09:01, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

A geriatric Vault Dweller hunted down all the remaining Slipknot holotapes and smashed them to bits sometime after 2208.--OvaltinePatrol 09:30, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

people can record themselves on holodisks but they cant record themselves playing music? the lonesome drifter had a guitar, how hard would it be to distribute the holodisks or give one to a wasteland DJ? just saying that people have been making music for thousands of years with less than what is available in the wastes. JimmyDreznaut017 16:49, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well somewhere before the great war they switched to holotapes instead of Vinyl whereas in the real world we switched to CDs. My theory is that holotapes were more of a military innovation since the focus was on war not culture such as music. If youve ever listened to a holotape you know that they are generally low quality so people like Three Dog and Mr.New Vegas would probably use the salvaged Vinyl to broadcast.Music was not recorded once the switch to holotapes was made. Maxster66 September 15, 2011 --- Instead apply game logic: You're not listening to the Inkspots, instead the LW is listening to a pre-war group that has a very similar sound. Apply same to MC Comments. If you take everything in the game too literally, you're left with the silly situation of having several sections of Vault 13 that are populated, yet completely inaccessible.Agent c 01:13, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

This is not sarcasm, just a suggestion. Couldnt you just listen to your own real music?

--- It wouldn't be hard to get original music, I'm sure there are plenty of people (myself included) who can produce professional quality scores would do so on the cheap ;). As far as in-game goes, I think it would be excellent thematically to have something akin to what John Hammond was doing for the Delta Blues.  Imagine a quest where every time you got a recording of a different musician out in the waste, you could bring it back to the radio station and it would then be put into rotation.  Or imagine how awesome it would be if Robert Johnson sang "Deathclaw On My Trail"?  Okay, I'm going to go home and record that now.  ;)DJFalsifier 16:23, October 14, 2011 (UTC) --- Also, Some of the Vocal-less tracks were composed by Obsidian members, as well as "Begin again" on Dead money. 58.111.200.145 10:17, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

I doubt the music in Fallout ever "progressed" that much farther beyond the early Beatles style (If it even made it that far, even "I Want To Hold Your Hand" sounds a bit too modern for the 1950s vibe Fallout tries to invoke), although they do imply that a sort of counterculture movement was brewing during the resource wars, so we might see something similar to mid-to-late 1960s folk and psychedelic music in the years leading up to the war, although it'd almost certainly be an "underground" thing. It seems like they missed a good opportunity to address this with Three-Dog in FO3. --76.16.85.100 01:58, October 16, 2011 (UTC) --- My guess is that they use records, not DVD's like most radio stations to today. It is proven that discs and CD's have there data wiped when exposed to extreme amounts of radiations, but records are not. It is more than possible that all music was lost, considering discs and tapes started to go into mass production in the sixty's. A real question is: what happened to all the portable music devices. Even though most would be destroyed, some must still exist. Well; thats my two caps worth... User:Nat King Cole 16:23, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

In the Dead Money DLC Dean Domino's hologram is shown playing the song "Something's Gotta Give." I think it is implied that most music was recorded and played just shortly before the war. So maybe people from that time "made" these songs and performed them and had them recorded for the radio.

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You have to apply a little "game logic" to it.

Look for example at this image that was used on the V13 town map:

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/File:Votf.jpg

OMG there are 5 levels of Vault 13 that are inhabited but completely inaccessible! What you see in game is just a representation of what is really there. The songs you're hearing aren't really the songs that are playing - even if the DJ introduces them. They are just the representations of the music style that was "in" as the bombs dropped. Agent c 02:33, October 29, 2011 (UTC)