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Fallout 3
It's not that I hate Fallout 3, it's a decent shooter. I don't like it as a Fallout game, because it sucks. It's badly written, badly designed, doesn't even try to make internal sense and takes great liberties with the Fallout world. It's basically a spin-off, marketed as a full blown sequel. I continuously shoot down Fallout 3 fanboys here because Fo3 is in no way superior to Fo1/Fo2. You should try playing them and get over your prejudice towards turn based games. The quality of the setting and ACTUAL role playing is well worth the effort. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 07:30, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Lack of trees isn't going to immediately deprive the area of oxygen. Look at New York - so many people, so little trees! Or the Sahara desert. As long as there are massive areas of green present elsewhere (e.g. the Amazon), we aren't going to have a lack of oxygen in the Fallout world anytime soon. That's about the only explainable thing though. I think comparing Fallout 3 to a Michael Bay movie is very, very accurate.
 * As for Fallout 1/2 try GOG.com. IF you're going for Fallout 2, be sure to grab the Fallout 2 restoration patch, which already includes killap's unofficial patch that fixes nearly all the bugs, a built-in high resolution patch and can be considered the second best Fallout experience (the best being, of course, the original Fallout).
 * I guess this thread is a good starting point for what to use when playing Fallout. Just remember to download the finished version of the RP (2.0), not the earlier one (1.3). As for running Fallout 1/2 on Vista, it works perfectly on WinXP with the patches. Don't know about Vista, but I'm sure GOG tech support can help you. Or I can find you the appropriate NMA thread.
 * Either way, be warned: after Fallout 1/2, Fallout 3 just won't cut it anymore. But I see that you're willing to take that risk :) http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 12:09, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * I hear you. My primary criticism of Fallout 3 is that it feels like an amusement park, rather than an actual world and all the pointless locations lend credence to that. I believe it all stems from the "we just do what's cool" approach to designing the game. If you look at early concept art, storyboards or the PIPBoy mockup they left in the files, you'll see the potential the game had. Groundbreaking atmosphere of a post-apocalyptic world, survival mechanics, actual scavenging and exploration of downtown DC... instead, they went for a mashup of previous games that tries too hard to be Fallout.
 * I guess that's the defining characteristic: Tries too hard.
 * Anyways, if you want a game with actual choices and consequences that feels like an interactive book, try Planescape Torment. It has tons of awesome writing (character descriptions alone are amazing) and inverts pretty much every fantasy/RPG cliche and trope associated with D&D and RPGs in general. Another good game from the same creator (Chris Avellone) is Knights of the Old Republic 2 (do torrent the Team Gizka restoration patch, though, it's 99% finished and reintroduces a wealth of lost content). I assume you've already played Deus Ex beforehand? http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 13:27, April 26, 2010 (UTC)