Forum:Who dropped the bombs?

This may seem like a ridiculous question, after all, it's obviously China! but the more i think about it, the more i start to think that it was the enclave or vault-tec which is a sub-section of the Enclave. I mean, what did they have to lose? If the bombs drop they can test their vault experiments, be all-powerful over the remaining populace and do whatever the hell thay want with nobody around to stop them with superior firepower/politics. doesn't this make sense?

and anyway, if China really did launch this bomb strike then they would have had to have thousands of bombs and planes to nuke the entirety of the USA, and surely somebody would have shot the planes down with missiles! Nothing makes sense. Also, power armour units were deployed in China so surely they would have seen the plnes going overhead or picked them up on their radar and given their home-country a very early warning.

however, there is one big clue that i can't figure out. If you look at the bomb in Megaton there is a symbol on it. It's solid circle with a line going through the middle. If we can figure out what the symbol belongs to, we can figure out who dropped the bombs!

Please reply with your thoughts on this matter. However, please think about your reply before you post it. don't just scream 'CHINA DID IT DIPSH*T!!!!!!!!!!' because that's immature and you obviously haven't thought about your answer and actually devoted any brain power towards figuring it out. Also, please give reasons.
 * The bomb in Megaton comes from a crashed American plane, IIRC. Anyway, it's not known who dropped the first bombs, but when they did, everyone else launched their own at each other. Also, bomber planes weren't the only things used, ICBMs were used as well.Ausir 16:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Either way, remember that technology is at a "futuristic 50's" style point at the time of the Great War. Things we have today might still be in development in Fallout's 2077. PlasmaFox 10:19, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Dude there have been a lot of theories and discussions about this, and Interplay and Bethesda aren't saying anything. The thing is, nobody knows who attacked first. This is a big part of the fallout mythology, and we will probably never find out. And also, why do people keep saying that the Enclave nuked itself. Maybe they they sent the nukes to China first, but it's a little far-fetched that they would do it to themselves. What I'm thinking now is that the U.S. and China may have pressed the button at the same time. Think about it. The war lasted 2 hours. 2 hours is not enough time to plan a counterstrike and for it to make a trip across the Pacific. Now if they both fired offensively at the same time, then that would explain it. But that's just a theory though. Broeman 12:01, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Essentially we all dropped the bombs, we are dropping them everyday when we give our ressources away to those who use these ressources (work, money, consent) against us. The day the bombs drop and by which nation's is irrelevant. It's bound to happen because we give the shadowy elites the means to make it happen. Think about it when you give money or any other power to governments and corporations. quintal 78.114.155.215 19:41, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Dude, this a fallout 3 thread. Whatever your opinions, views, or ideals are, this is not the place for it. Broeman 12:53, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Just another thought. There are Chinese soldiers in the game, so if they were attempting an occupation, why bomb the area where your own soldiers are?

China doesn't care about maybe 20-30 soldiers Broeman 12:53, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Why? beacuse YOU'RE being fired at. When you see nucular missle comming at you, you fire back. Fuck who is in the way. This is a pointless topic. i really wish we could close it.--NeoScott 04:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


 * This is a great topic. I think it happened just like it would happen in real life. They launched nukes at us, and we launched nukes at them. Russia and the other nuclear countries probably launched all of their weapons as well. A whole world launching nukes at each other, and everyone is wrecked by it. That is what would happen in real life. Someone said the whole war only lasted 2 hours....maybe the last battle did, but the war had to be longer. Just the missions in Alaska would have taken longer than 2 hours for real soldiers to accomplish and return to base between each mission. Gsmikem 19:55, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

gsmikem, when people talk about the war without specifying which war, they are talking solely about the nuclear exchange. The conflicts preceding it, including Alaska, are not part of the Great War. 75.34.92.29 01:56, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I think when they say it lasted 2 hours, they are saying that was the time between when the first nation pushed their nuke button and when the first bomb exploded. Anything after that is irrelevant since everyone was dead anyway.  --MadDawg2552 20:12, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * That's the time from the first detonation to the last. Shaur M. S. Grizlin 20:24, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Plus i dont even know if we had ever droped bombs on china....

To the poster of the question: you answered your own question but to expand upon it I will say that: Although one of Fallout creators main goals are to create a profit it is very clear that their games are intended to make people think, and show people what hate, resentment, and extreme aggression does to a planet who has created the ability for the inhabitants of the planet to destroy each other.the question of which parties were involved in the bombings is irrelevant to the survivors and their ancestors. They are the true victims, not the ones who died horrible, painful deaths from incineration and radiation poisoning. as much as these games are they are ironically a message for peace and the consequences of no peace. My point being is that it doesn't matter who dropped the bombs DIPSH!!!!T. LOL just kidding. About the the Dipsht part at least, but really the developers and creators don't tell because that doesn't matter to the "Lone Wanderers" or the characters with which they interact. The time to ponder that has come and passed and the characters of this world need to look to the future forgetting past disagreement less they end up doing the same thing again. (although I will saw two more things: first, if they ever do an add-on with a mission that ends up explaining to the player why or how this happened I will totally buy that add-on or game, and at least the world managed to get rid of their Nuclear bombs. that is a plus to this nuclear world!

Although it's intentionally never been confirmed who launched the first nuke, I think it's a fairly logical conclusion that China did it. From the backstory, we know that the American military had deployed their new T-51b Power Armor units on the Chinese mainland, after the Anchorage invasion was repelled. These units were much stronger than anything China could throw at them, and as a result they were crushing the Chinese resistance. The last thing we know is that they were closing in on the Chinese capital of Beijing. It makes sense that China would fire off its nukes as a last resort, before they were defeated by the US invasion force. I don't think the US would launch a first strike when they had the upper hand. 74.244.4.226 17:49, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

A potential proble I see with your theory is that it does make sense. Remember, they established that the US was completely paranoid, and I wouldn't put it past them to launch nukes in a spur of the moment situation. That said, I'm not sure if it would have been the US that did launch them, neither the chinese. It could be one of those unsolved mysteries... 5t3v0 11:25, October 22, 2011 (UTC)