Talk:Ol' Painless

Inaccurate AP Cost
While looking through both my Fallout 3 Official Stradegy Guide, this website, and several others I have seen that the Ol' Painless Rifle's AP cost is supposedly 23 points, which is equal to the unique Chinese Assualt Rifle, the Xuanlong Assualt Rifle. Noticing this I attempted to use both weapons the same amount of times in V.A.T, but unlike the Xuanlong Assualt Rifle, which shot 5 bursts, the Ol' Painless Rifle only shot 4 of its 5 round clip. Maybe I am having some sort of glitch but for the test I used Lag-Bolt's Combat Armor +10 AP, had my Small Guns skill at 100, and had taken every step to increase my max AP points without resorting to drugs. I also tested this in several different scenarios: Super Mutants, Raiders, Enclave, and Deathclaws. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.165.179.157 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~ !
 * I checked in the data files using FO3Edit - the value of 23 is listed for the "Override - Action Points" for both the Ol' Painless and one of the others you mentioned, the Xuanlong Assault Rifle. Are you on the PC? If so, are you using any mods? If this is on a console then it can be put in the bugs section unless someone else comes along and says why it shouldn't be. Kris (talk) 20:05, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * No actually I am using the Xbox 360 version, but I do have the PC version its just much nicer to play on my Xbox then PC primarily because my PC is now a POS. But to the point, I think the only reason I can think of that might be the problem is that my Xbox 360 Fallout 3 disk is cracked on the inner ring but I don't think that'd affect the game's stats.
 * No actually I am using the Xbox 360 version, but I do have the PC version its just much nicer to play on my Xbox then PC primarily because my PC is now a POS. But to the point, I think the only reason I can think of that might be the problem is that my Xbox 360 Fallout 3 disk is cracked on the inner ring but I don't think that'd affect the game's stats.

There are perks that modify AP with regards to what weapon you are using. Ol'Painless should be a rifle, while I'm not sure which categorie holds the Xuanlong. Maybe that's it. -DAywalker-~10.01.2010, 20,1891.7.108.251

Damage Decrease
I noticed the article said the damage should be 30, but for some reason my Ol' Painless only does 25 at full repair. I've been using Hunting Rifles to fix it up for some time, but now it doesn't want to go above 25 damage. Others have informed me that they don't have this problem. We may want to put this under possible bugs. —Preceding comment was unsigned. Please sign your posts with ~ !
 * DAM stat is affected by your small guns skill. TearsOfBlood 19:31, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

This is one of the best small guns in the game in my opinion, it packs quite a punch at lower levels, and it is very easy to maintain, and with its 0 spread, its very good for non-vats users.

Behind The Scenes
Should it be put in the behind the scenes section that the minigun that Blain uses in the move "Predator" is called Ol' Painless?--71.11.224.91 05:03, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

I logged on here today to ask this exact question, just finished watching Predator, maybe its too generic a name to link it, but it seems very likely its an homage, shame they didnt use the name in place of Eugene, would fit better.--MrSuperHappy 18:42, November 16, 2011 (UTC)