Talk:Gold bar (Dead Money)

I've made a video detailing a new and far easier method of getting all the gold bars out easily if anyone's interested. Please provide feedback if it's worthy enough for the article. I'm sort of new at this. Thank you. LINK 21:43, December 22, 2010 (UTC)Accipe_Hoc

If there's a place for strategy on the page, this is the one to showcase. worked like a charm. --Five Four Plus 06:58, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

tl:dr solution
1. Get detonater and explosives

1 1/2. Activate security protocols

2. Place explosives (mines, C-4, etc.) along the pathway and ramp that directly leads to the vault from the force field path

3. Walk to the force field door (the one Elijia walks out of) asap (I used turbo perk for ultra fastness, but you prolly dont have to)

4. Elijia SHOULD wait if you get there before he gets out at which point he will stand outside and wait for the sentry guns to kill you

5. Kill A (1) sentry gun (marked as Vault protection gun or whatever its called) while moving back into the forcefield

6. Elijia will then run out at which point he will say "Pre-War Junk!..." and then you MAY (sometimes the FF will blow you back or you may not have had the right angle while walking backwards) get inside the area (you must do this as even if he dies the FFs WILL NOT die

7. Elijia dies (via detonator+explosives) open two doors (lead to elevator) and use the elevator (you must kill Elijia or the elevator WILL NOT OPEN

Im sorry if im just rehashing what the above video says, but this is much easier to read and find (I also dont like watching videos) than the other guides imo --24.16.219.193 04:10, August 4, 2011 (UTC)Tesla

Long Haul
has anyone with the Long Haul perk tried getting the gold and simply making do with the speed penalty until you can fast travel back to wherever you want to dump the gold? Keep in mind that i don't have DM Yet, so i don't know if there's anything physically preventing you from escaping if overencumbered. Destroy them all! 00:19, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

That wouldn't work. The problem is that you have to escape from a vault in a limited time... its inside so fast travel wont do anything.173.58.234.55 01:16, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * O RLY? I have 37 gold bars that would disagree; you can carry it all out, no glitches or cheating, and then use Long Haul to save you from a very long walk.  All you need is a Stealth Boy.  Go to about the 4 minute mark on | this video.  It's by far the easiest method I've seen of getting all the money.  I've done it on two separate playthroughs.
 * You don't even have to worry about bringing a Stealth Boy along because one can be found in a box within the Vault itself, although there are one or two more to to be found in the Sierra Madre.Minor Edits 10:22, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * The stealth boy in the vault doesn't seem to be guaranteed - or at least, wasn't there for me. Plus I never found a single one anywhere in the villa or casino, despite finding all the stashes etc :( 124.168.90.105 20:43, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * I restarted that level 3 times from an earlier savegame - and although the contents of some of the cupboards were slightly different, still no stealth boy inside the vault itself. in the end I just snuck around him (which was made easier once I realised he could magically detect me in certain tiles), then stood up and ran VERY SLOWLY for the forcefield door before he managed to turn it on! 124.168.90.105 08:19, May 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Long Haul really isn't necessary. While inside the Casino you can't use it anyway, and once you get back to the Wasteland, walk to Camp Forlorn Hope (takes all of 2 minutes) drop them into a footlocker, go get a couple companions and make 2 or 3 trips with everyone loaded up. Bingo, all the Gold Bars are back at your place and it only took 10 more minutes than having the Long Haul perk.


 * Long haul is really nice to have when all your companions are loaded with loot.  Also it's really nice for people who fancy their weapons.  Like me, I have 50+ assault carbines form gun runners, call me obsessed but I like having my armory fully stocked. :)

I got six stealth boys (level along with a shitload of SM armor (reinforced) not its time to make the great invisible journey to the sink where I will begin to fund my army of gold plated securitrons who will use caps as ammo.

Test Your Methods
Alright people are posting a lot of methods that I know for a fact will not work. You can't just post what you think is an obvious answer. This is a glitch and the obvious solutions will not work idiots, you aren't supposed to be able to get all the bars out at all. If the player goes anywhere near the security gates that lead to the elevator after Elijah has opened them, they automatically seal, whether Elijah has seen the player or not. Any plan to hide near the elevator and simply walk out will not work. Do you people even try these ideas before posting them. I got the bars out on 360 with method 3, which I wrote after succeeding. It took me about 15 tries to finally get it right, but I didn't just post it up there because it seemed obvious to me. I tried it over and over until I finally got the placement of the mines right and was able to kill Elijah from the other side of the gates and make it to the elevator with all 1,400 pounds. If you have an idea that sounds good either try it yourself or post it here and other people with saves outside the vault may try it for you and post it themselves, but you can't just change a page without any idea whether what your putting is correct or not.


 * -What you are saying above is False---Fartensparten 05:17, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

You can kill Elijah (SP) as he is on the stairs near the Now Activated shields, Dump the gold in his body and shove the corpse against the shield - Use the 3rd person camera glitch to access his inventory before you activate the elevator out

Operation: Get all the gold. Status: COMPLETE! BOOM BABY!

Errors in Main Page
Im not very good at formatting and editing and stuff, so if anyone wants to fix these I noticed some major errors. In locations it says Sierra immead Casino Vault, see method 7 but theres only 6 methods, and there is no method 4. 173.58.234.55 01:20, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you random guy who changed my pissed off paragraph on the page into a calm note telling people not to post methods that suggest simply walking to the elevator, I knew that was going to get pulled because I wrote it like I was angry but I'm glad someone actually retyped it in a way that it will stay on the page. I appreciate that.--Never Summer 06:13, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Gothemasticator, I do hope that you plan on re-implementing all of those various suggestions on how to get out with all of the gold bars that many people put a decent amount of time and effort into putting up here.--L3377MA573R 05:12, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oh I doubt it, because there are just too many kids who cry because they can't follow a method properly, or just don't understand them. When hundreds of others who read them understand and escape with the gold. The constant edit battles must bother him along with the complaints. Whatever the case, I put up my Method (The First one posted) and then it was deleted. I even re-recorded a video and planned on posting once it was uploaded. But Whatever apparently "the games properties do not allow you to enter through the door without the alarm going off" which defuncts my method...Funny I have 37 pieces of gold laying on my bed in New Vegas...Hmm I wonder how those got there... :?--Fartensparten 05:16, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Please see The Vault's editing guidelines. We don't include strategies in articles.--Gothemasticator 05:32, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Gothemasticator, I realize they do not put strategies up on the pages, but a detailed walkthrough is on most quest pages, last I checked this was a quest and a very good rewarded quest at that. If you can put ONE strategy that is almost foolproof then put it. Otherwise people will complain that the wiki isn't helping them. People will complain nevertheless but give them less reasons to.

Then you have quite alot of work to do removing all of the strategies on this Wiki, good luck....lol --Fartensparten 05:34, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I see no reason why we can't implement at least a section of a page for strategies, especially since people interested in performing it are probably going to end up on this page at some point.--L3377MA573R 04:03, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Pages will get very cluttered with strategies. It's easier (and more fun!) to make the player figure it out on their own. Nitty Tok. 04:05, December 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Not to be rude, but this comment is just wrong. it is NOT easier to figure things out on your own. if that was true, then why do I need to come to this wiki so often to search things? I say implementing a strategy section for this page makes sense because of the unique circumstances surrounding it.Aaron Babb 05:09, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

I disagree. I had to look up a guide on how to do it, and found the guides very helpful in forming my own way of doing it. As a matter of fact, one of my biggest complaints about the DLC is the disappointing amount of endgame loot. Sneaking out with all of the gold bars was awesome and fun, and being able to buy anything I want back in the wasteland is beyond amazing. Even looking at the Fallout NV forums, people are still referencing the wiki as a place to go to find guides. At the very least make a separate page for them and link to it from the main page. "See Gold Bar Strategies," etc.--L3377MA573R 17:01, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

What are Wikias but an online strategy guide. Saying that strategies don't belong on the pages is ridiculous. The whole reason I even came to this page in the first place was because I noticed the gold bars on the table and wanted to find a glitch to get them out. The whole reason people use this site is to collaborate their ideas and strategies for how to play the game. What's the sense is a game website where players can't help each other?--Never Summer 06:13, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * But we're an encyclopedia, not GameFAQs. The article on the Beatles in World Book doesn't tell you how to pirate their music, does it? Nitty Tok. 05:38, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Dude stop doing that. If the strategies don't belong here, where do they go? You're stopping other people from getting the help they come to this site for. --Never Summer 06:12, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * People should come here either looking for the timeline (which, dare I say, is the greatest article ever created) or for raw numbers like my personal project on weapon durability compared to item HP, or for base and ref id numbers. Like I said, there's a difference between us and GameFAQs. Nitty Tok. 06:15, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Have you seen this website? Have you looked at any other page on this site besides the one's you created, or any quest page for that matter? Every single page about collectible items is mainly just a list of locations, what is that except a guide? Why don't you take a look at these pages and start deleting them if you don't think that is what this website is for: steel ingot, book, Vault Boy bobblehead, or any quest page on the whole site Quest.--Never Summer 06:24, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * There's a difference between listing the non-random locations of objects A, B, and Zed, and listing 40,000 variations of a specific way to play the game. (Quest articles are nonwithstanding, though quests should list every possible outcome, not the "best" one.)
 * Besides, the wiki is far from being even remotely done. Probably never will. Ever been to UESP? The whole thing's nothing but a massive list of tables, from loot drops to pre-calculated damage percentages... they're an actual encyclopedia, and they're what we should strive to be. Not GameFAQs.
 * In conclusion, I don't see why you need to list the strategies here when there are trillions of other video game websites that aren't trying to be encyclopedias with a rowdy and confused community. Nitty Tok. 06:28, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Obtaining ALL 37 gold bars ffffffff-
Why isn't there a "Dead Money Glitches" page or something of that nature? I don't think it makes a lot of sense to arbirtarily say "we shouldn't tell the players how to get the gold bars because they should figure it out themselves" or "the developers didn't want you to do that, it misses the point of the whole "greed" theme!"

If we follow that logic, we should just delete all of the documented glitches for all the games. Gary 23 glitch?? Bye bye, you're too awesome for anyone else to see, they can just "figure it out." That handyman in Point Lookout, the method for getting his repair to 100? Gone. See my point?

I'm with whoever recommended creating a special separate page for obtaining all of the gold bars; 350,000 possible caps is a hard thing to just push under the rug and pretend doesn't exist, or take some sort of moral ground on the subject. As a wiki, the Vault needs to include noteworthy things about Fallout, and the methods for obtaining this possible fortune are unequivocally of note.

Information wants to be free, man.

--Black Chai 03:51, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

This wiki doe include guides for helping with quest, items, and deailing with creatures. I don't see we we can't show a guide to deal with a unqiue item. It has commanly happend on the wiki
 * Where does it include such things? They should be removed. Nitty Tok. 05:39, December 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow you are actually contradicting the main purpose of the site, and you've apparently never looked at a page that you yourself didn't write. You need to be banned from editing.--Never Summer 06:28, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

I second the motion to ban Nitty, he seems to be forgetting that most hardcore gamers only consult a wiki out of despiration and that our main body of visiters are people looking for ways to do quests and get items. Nitty seems to go out of the way to make them feel unwelcome.

Just to clarify, a wiki is an Encyclopaedia first and foremost; if you cannot deal with your own problems, well that's personal and you should see a psychiatrist. No major wiki (like this one) is a self-help guide. YuriKaslov 02:44, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Every unique item has a "Location" section, and this section is pretty much used to tell you how to obtain the item. For instance, look at the Sierra Madre Casino Snow Globe page. Under "Locations", it spells out exactly how to reach it. If that isn't simply a short strategy, then what exactly would you call it? We want to know not only where the unique items are, but how to get them. Every page attempts to answer this, most do it quite well. It's a silly double standard to say we shouldn't do the same with this item, simply because the method for obtaining them is so difficult. Also, I agree that it's silly to say "the gamers should figure it out." Then why post the location of items in the first place? After all, simply knowing they exist, with their stats and other relevant information, should be enough. Telling the gamers any more would be giving them a strategy or guide on how to get these items. This wiki is used, if not mostly then in large part, to be able to find and collect the unique items in the game. Heck, I already have more caps then I ever need. I just want the items for gamer nerd-dom. 184.8.178.33 21:40, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Old Lady Gibson
She usually has about 7200 caps for me. If you buy a few things, you can make it worthwhile to sell her a Gold Bar. Shouldn't she be listed as a potential vendor for gold bars? I'm just putting this here in case some people are having an e-pissing contest over who gets mentioned.Minor Edits 07:28, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blake at the Crimson Caravan Company
I'm level 25 at the moment, and Blake at the Crimson Caravan Company restocks 12010 caps every 3 days for me. Not sure if it's anything to do with rep, but I think this should be listed as a possible trader for the gold bars. Daaaaanny 20:18, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

I got'em all.
I did it. I got every last one of these buggers. I died so many times getting them out though, the curse of the sierra madre I guess. Now I'm trying to sell them. I've never bought so much ammunition before.

THE easiest way EVER
No Stealth boys, no explosives, no glitches needed

I did this myself about 20 min ago so it WORKS!

1) Grab the gold

2) Talk to Elijah (!IMPORTANT! You must get Elijah to come down to the vault)

3) When the conversation is over, go through the door and stop

4) look to your right, there's a big metal "thing" sticking up through the floor

5) Crouch behind it and wait for Elijah to walk to the computer (You must circle around to avoid detection)

6) When you see him at the computer simply stand up and walk out...

If you have trouble email me at Nigerlaj@hotmail.com (try a few times for yourself before you ask)

(Random player searching for the easy way)
 * I just confirmed this!! Thank You Sir Nigerlaj!!! 2nd try just as listed above. Line 6 is important, "AT" the computer, not before.

Thanks again!!

You, sir, are a genius. Thanks to you, now I have 37 bars to prove this works. The stand up part is important though, missed that a couple times.

^^^^^^^Verified, brilliant in its simplicity. THANK YOU, SIR!

Thanks! The most easiest way. I have try many times, it work. But I add more detail information: 2) Elijah part, I using (sneak 75) option twice, this will make sure Elijah walk to the "terminal". 5) Before Elijah walk "AT" terminal in front of vault, don't move, and he will "stop walk" 4 times before terminal. After 4+ times he "stop walk", you can stand up and walk out without any problem.

Getting fair value for the gold bars
Does anyone know of any merchants who are actually willing to give you what each gold bar's worth? Even the vendors that have 11000+ caps only seem to buy them at less than 6000 caps.
 * You can get vendors to buy them for over eight grand, if your barter skill is high enough.

I would just like to mention that some of the items found in DM have much better value to weight coefficiet, most notably the police pistol since it costs 333 caps per pound and a buyer can be found effortlessly. Other items include the huntung and lever-action shotgun which have twice the value of the gold bars. With the massive amounts of police pistols and Wep. repair kits you will be able to get roughly 10% more caps for the same weight.

Get Every Gold Bar Out!
Go to this YouTube video to see how its done:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHsfeBYVpzI&feature=related

Just did it myself and it absolutely works! Save your game before you use the computer in the vault, because sometimes the bricks will fall off the ledge instead of going through the force field. If this happens, simply reload your game before the computer and try again. If your save is after using the computer, you will continue to drop the gold off the side of the walkway every time. They aren't kidding when they say you have to move fast after killing Elijah, even if you do it perfectly you'll only make it out by a few seconds. If you want the Achievement for locking him in, you'll have to do it on a separate save, it is impossible do both successfully.

The fact that they have locked this page from being edited strongly suggests they are going to fix this in the next patch, so do it quickly before it no longer works!
 * I am insulted that you think I work for Bethesda or Obsidian. I locked this fricken page so people would keep the stupid strategies out of the article, as is dictated by our editing guideline here.
 * Do I look like one of them?! Nitty Tok. 03:20, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Excuse my language, but I don't see why are all of you guys bitching about something so simple. I suggest just simply making a walk through on how to take all gold bars similar to the steel ingot page from Fallout 3-- 03:38, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Steel ingots have a quest related to collecting them, where the gold bars don't. Why don't we make a walkthrough for getting all of the rest of the crap in Sierra Madre out? Nitty Tok. 03:40, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Right now, tried and true methods for obtaining the gold are listed on the Sierra Madre Casino Vault page, which the OP apparently never bothered to check. So if we really can't post strategies, those should be removed as well. But frankly, I don't see the problem with having some page for chronicling these strategies. I couldn't find exactly where in the editing guidelines it bans us from explaining how to obtain extremely valuable items. We do essentially the same thing whenever we list the location of "notable loot." Nitty distinguishes Steel Ingots because there's a quest related to them, but the argument can be made that obtaining the gold so you can take back to the Mojave and be filthy rich for the rest of the game is the primary reason to play the DLC in the first place (the gameplay and story of Dead Money is sub-par in my opinion). It is, in other words, the over-arching quest of the entire DLC, even if it is "unmarked." Therefore, I don't think we should extinguish popular demand to include this information, but should merely channel it appropriately. Minor Edits 03:53, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Removed 'em.
 * Really, if people want to know what's in the vault, they should come to... well... the Vault. If they wanna know how to beat the programming, they can go to GameFAQs. You aren't supposed to be able to escapse the vault with all the gold. Nitty Tok. 04:14, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * It was my understanding that there's no one right way to play Fallout. "Letting go" might fit well with Dead Money's theme, but if a player can acquire such a valuable amount of money without cheating, it should be mentioned.  Hell, when PC players start editing this, they'll include the console commands to place the gold in the players' inventory.  I don't see why console gamers, obeying the restraints the game places on them, should be left ignorant of the fact that they, too, can readily possess the gold. Minor Edits 04:20, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * And, seriously, could you point out what rule those explanations were in violation of? Minor Edits 04:22, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Because there's no one right way to play, we should let other people figure out how to do things for themselves, excepting quest articles. (Because that defeats the purpose of quest articles.)
 * As for "PC players listing the console commands", it's fairly obvious and won't be placed here. :/ Nitty Tok. 04:24, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Console commands are included on pages all over the Vault, usually in the bugs so PC players can correct glitches. Nevertheless, they're basically tips on how to cheat the game programming.  Furthermore, it's an example of how the Vault is here to help players.  Saying that people come to the Vault just to know what's in certain places is missing the point.  They come here to know what loot is in a location or a quest so they can obtain it.  The Vault should be helpful, not intentionally obstructive, to players.
 * Yeah, but the baseid of the item isn't telling people how to play the game. It's a number, just like any of the other numbers.
 * What people come to the Vault for and what the Vault does aren't always the same thing, either. We're going to tell you that the gold is here, and you can figure out what you want to do with it from there. Nitty Tok. 04:35, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * What's wrong with just making an unmarked quest article? I mean, we have an unmarked quest article just for getting banned from the Sierra Madre Casino.  Why not make an unmarked quest out of an activity that's more difficult, not readily apparent, and over 30 times more lucrative? Minor Edits 04:40, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't even get me started on unmarked quests. Unmarked quests these days are taken straight from the Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide, whether they are quests or not. Getting banned from the Madre is apparently more quest-y than all the gold. Nitty Tok. 04:42, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Well, this will probably be my last message here. Not really out of sore feelings; I'm just done with the game until more DLC comes out. But even then, I don't think I'll return to editing, because if you what say is right, Nitty, then the Vault is not what I thought it was. You see, I thought it was here to help people play the game. But apparently you're here strictly to digitize the content of a manual, no matter how incomplete or inaccurate it may be. My bad. Have a good one.Minor Edits 04:56, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ever been to UESP? Nitty Tok. 05:00, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Storage in the Sierra Madre
Anyone know which places are safe to store stuff in the Sierra Madre? I want to put them somewhere safe so I can finish exploring, then get them back before going to the Mojave. None of the locations are really close to the fountain, so any will do. I think the Police station will work, but does anyone know for sure?--85.237.212.159 15:12, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind. The wardrobe in the Casino Lobby worked just fine.--86.44.148.183 12:36, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Just Saying
Don't the vast number of people who want to get all the gold bars realize that not taking the gold is one of the morals of the story? -Anon 20:30 2/24/11

Ya that is sad

OH, THE GREED! *weeps*

My ~400,000 caps disagree with you. :) HRRlion 15:52, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Patches in PC version
Many of the methods used to get all the bars out seem to based on glitches that were patched in the PC version. I assume PS3 version included patches as well. So, when you see something that says "this works", take into account which platform somebody got it to work on (which is rarely mentioned), all I can say for sure is if it was posted before Feb 22, 2011 they're talking about the Xbox version. In fact, not only are the glitches "fixed", they essentially they hacked in strange rules into the engine to defeat all this.

1. If you stand next to either of the force fields as Elijah briefly opens it to exit himself, you will be thrown back and knocked down instantly.

2. Attempting to drop the bars through the force field will result in the bars disappearing forever.

3. Bars cannot be picked up from the exit side of the force field if dropped on the vault side.

4. Trapping Elijah as per Safety Deposit Box will result in Elijah triggering the collar detonation countdown, and there will not be enough time to escape if Encumbered.

5. Gold bars have been given a unique, undocumented property for a Fallout item- they cannot be manipulated/carried by the [Z] key, nor can they be shoved by other items, nor blown around by explosions. Thus there is no possibility of blowing/throwing them through the field in a glitch, nor could you carry them in front of you while running the exit gauntlet (items don't Encumber you while being manipulated with the [Z] key). Tragically, this also means you cannot arrange them on tables or whatever for showing off. (you can shoot them with a shotgun which makes them move after you dropped them though)

6. I tried putting the bars in a bucket so I could [Z] carry the bucket. It seems the bars cannot fall into a bucket, even if you're perfect, they'll always shove the bucket out of the way. I didn't get a barrel in there to try that.

7. Elijah is unique in that he cannot be Pickpocketed, nor Reverse Pickpocketed.

8. Elijah is invulnerable until he triggers the alarm (already documented).

9. Touching the stairs, or the platform near the rear forcefield exit, will instantly trigger the force field, even with +100 Sneak and if Elijah has not turned hostile. Standing on the platform/stairs and railings will trigger it, floating with clipping off will not.

10. Waiting long enough without being seen will still result in Elijah becoming hostile and triggering the force fields and collar countdown. There is generally plenty of time to do whatever you need to do before then, except there will never be enough time for walking out Encumbered back the way you came.

11. I could not find a Stealth Boy at the location mentioned, not in the PC version.

But, there ARE exceptions to #9, and it works on PC version!

On the PC, I started with only a 39 Sneak, did not reprogram the turret, nor destroyed the Turret Generator:

1. Encumbered myself with gold bars, armor, .357 rounds (2000), spare Sierra Madre armor, anything not nailed down

2. De-equipped all armor and weapon, turned off Pip-Boy light (increases Stealth),

3. Took a Mentat and La Fantoma!

4. Triggered the vault computer to call Elijah down, including the long backstory dialogue options is not a problem

5. Immediately turn around, open vault door, Encumbered-walk straight out across staircase, and down hallway towards the rear force field door. Do NOT crouch. Just go.

6. Timing is important. If you walk straight in, the force field will activate 3 steps from the door and you will never get out. A pause of about 2 seconds before moving in, I don't know why, but the force field will NOT activate. I did do a save there but I don't know if that was a factor. Another 3 seconds and the script will have Elijah speaking, activating the fields, and beginning the collar countdown, but you'll be on the other side by then. 7. It is possible, but nonessential, to then kill Elijah with preplaced explosives. However, this doesn't seem to offer any possible to way loot his body anyways, his Gauss Gun and other miscellaneous loot will be lost forever.


 * It's true. I have Dead Money for PS3 and I've tried many of these exploits but it appears they've been fixed.  Which is fine, because it's the whole point that you're not suppose to be able to take them all.  It's too bad they didn't have a small room stacked with gold bars, though, that'd really tempt the hell outta people.  Would add even more weight to the "Let it go" moral of the story. Anonymous971 19:10, March 13, 2011 (CST)

The unprepared method
So, I was having some trouble. I had not prepared a way to get them out beforehand, so many methods wouldn't work, and my save file was after the conversation with Eli. I did have him come down to the vault, apparently, but I wasn't able to sneak past him. If you have a similar, unprepared situation, do this-

1. AVOID HACKING OR DISABLING TURRETS

2. Grab all the stuff you want (GOLDIES)

3. Walk out, allowing Eli to go behind the force-field if he's not already there.

4. Set some C-4 (preferably), proximity mines, or some other weapon that can be triggered from an enclosed space (not guns or throwing weaponry) for Eli, at the base of the stairs or near that one structure he'll hide beside off to the right (do this up until 6 to observe where exactly)

5. Stand right next to the field, and kill a turret while walking at the doorway to Eli

6. Eli will helpfully Gauss-explode you across the doorway

7. Wait for Eli to die

8. Leave

9. ???

10. MUCH PROFIT!

Nathan Hale 01:15, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Wait a second...
If these gold bars are 35 pounds, why do they say 10 ounces on top? O_O --Threyon 02:21, March 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * It says 10 ounces pure gold. It could have a remaining 34 pounds and some ounces of... Lead? (or not) Nathan Hale 02:32, March 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're right, this is a mistake on Bethesda's part. 10 oz. is definitely not 35 pounds, which would imply that the bar is only a replica gold bar with some other metal coated in 10 oz of gold.  However, on each bar is printed 999.9, on a normal gold bar this number denotes the purity of the gold bar on a scale of 0 to 1000 (1000 being totally pure gold).  Also, a 10 oz gold bar is typically 2.5 inches by 1.4 inches by .4 inches, much smaller than the bars appear in the game. So based on the size of the bar in the game and the purity printed on it, they meant for it to be a 35 lb bar of pure gold and simply forgot to remove the "10 oz" from whatever picture they looked at as a reference of how the gold bar should look. Timmer88 01:03, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

No you guys are missing the point the 10 ounces imprint is an oversight by bethesda but its 35 pounds to keep you from taking all of them out it further enforces the "letting go" theme of dead money you guys thinking about it too hard it most likely is all pure gold bethesda is just enforcing the main point of dead money--Chargersphinx 02:59, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Pfft, whatever.

makes off with all the gold bars "Muahahahaha..." XD

--Threyon 06:01, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

ummm
Anyone ever try to drop bars through force field cause that worked for me. Frantruck 01:27, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * yes, tried and failed Nathan Hale 01:33, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * dropping them through the force field works, you just have to be patient and try it a few times. sometimes you might have to go back to a save from just before you used the computer in the vault to reset the force fields and try again.

Gold Bars disappeared in Novac hotel room
Stored my gold bars in the dresser in my Novac hotel room and when I came back they have disappeared?


 * How often did you go there? After a certain amount of time (I think it's 3 game days. Maybe.) non-safe containers reset themselves. Probably it's that if it's not a safe container, but it could be a version of the infamous Megaton house container bug if it IS safe. Nathan Hale 19:52, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Ryan :  my gold bars vanished because i updated my new vegas disc yesterday and the playstation store was down, so my dlc dead money was not able to update simultaneously, therefor all dlc data in my game save vanished, i am stuck waiting till playstation store comes back online (down for maintenence due to hackers) until then i have no gold bars, and no guarantee they will come back with the update ill get when the store comes back.

Not as good as they seem to be
I dont want to register here just for this, but you should mention that gold bars are maybe the item with the highest value, but not with the highest value per pound. It has 10349/35 = ~295caps/pound. The often encountered police-pistol has (fully repaired) ~333caps/pound. C4 (which you'll get somewhere in the storyline) even has a stunning 1998caps/pound (the C4-Article mentions a value of 1500, for me ingame it justs reads 999. strange). A assassin suit in good condition has 375c/p. So users should think twice before dropping all their stuff and loading up with gold bars... --82.212.5.82 22:53, March 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * selling them isn't really the point of getting them all out. sure they would get you a bunch of money, but once you're about 20+ hours into the game, money really isn't that hard to come by as long as you haven't been totally neglecting barter.  I personally like having a bath tub full of gold bars in my suite at the lucky 38. Timmer88 15:46, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Best bang for your buck
I have checked multiple vendors on the Xbox 360 and have made a nice little chart for you hard working thiefs. (Note that i have 100 barter) Gun runners-9485 caps Blake at the crimson caravan-9485 caps old lady gibson-9485 Brotherhood of steel(Hidden Vally)-10539 A.K.A True value. The only problem is that they dont have a high cap amount so you'll have to buy things from them to get what you want. If you have any problems or questions my xboxlive gt is User:XzIsT Reaper

My way of getting all 37.
My way of doing this is to spend a TON of Sierra Madre Chips (after breaking the bank at the casino) on demo charges, and keeping as many grenades, frag mines, gas bombs, and dynamite. When you reactivate the Vault security system, you need to kill all five security turrets. After that, you can prepare your little friend for Father Elijah. Use all the various explosives that you collected from your previous winnings. My last playthough involved 25 demo charges from the molecular vending machines along with 9 Gas Bombs, 7 Frag Mines, 6 Frag Grenades and 3 sticks of Dynamite (not in the LEAST bit overkill). Place all this right before the stairs that is sealed off by that kinetic barrier (the one Elijah comes out of to confront you. !!WARNING!! The Dynamite and Grenades should deployed LAST, dropping them first and then deploying the mines can result in the mines hitting the dropped grenades and the grenades will mistake that as a bullet shooting the it and will trigger a chain reaction and will prematurely blow up, likely killing you and (for me) sending your lifeless corpse so high that you nearly bounced off the ceiling. Once you have your trap set, step inside the Vault.  Now that you've been locked in, grab all the medical supplies, ammo, weapons, armor, and pre-war money you want, and finish off with all 37 bars (you need to grab this before activating the terminal. Now go through the terminal and close it. A 2-way connection with Father Elijah, complete with his stupid fat face. He'll tell you how he's going to leave you down there and blow your head off. You need to convince him do come down and confront you (Need to pass two Science, Explosives or Repair checks of 75), or this won't work.

When he comes down, he starts saying how great he is and how much you suck, he takes his Pip-Boy and disables the kinetic barrier that prevents you from going straight from the Vaults enterance to the elevator. THIS is your ticket, the barrier is disabled for just under a second and reactivated. You can sneak through the doorway and the barrier will knock you out for a second (similar to how the jets at the Hoover Dam) and you get up. Elijah will see you regardless of your sneak skill and even if you have a stealth boy if you go on these stairs, however, the same script will force Elijah to run into the obvious pile of explosives you have set up for him and BOOM!, you might get lucky and a part or two of Elijah will land inside the maintenance duct you're trudging through to get to the elevator. On that playthrough I described earlier, I was lucky enough to get an unexploded grenade to land right in front of me; I put it next to all the unsold gold and pre-war money I stored in the Abandoned BoS bunker. If you have the Novac apartment, you can store it all there.

Advantages:
 * You get all 37 gold bars.
 * You earn your Cash Out achievement.

Disadvantages:
 * You have to walk the whole way back to Novac if you don't want to store the gold in the Abandoned Brotherhood of Steel bunker
 * You can't earn Safety Deposit Box.

--Caustic260 00:44, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

The real value of a bar
According to the game, one gold bar is worth 10539 caps. That makes it worth 301.114 caps per weight. This equals 20.6478368 caps per troy ounce if the weight of a single weight unit is a pound, as Fallout states in-game, but has not since been referenced. The current value of gold (yes, I know it's somewhat high right now) is 1617.57 USD. This yields an individual cap value of 78.34 USD. Suddenly caps appear a great deal more valuable. However, everyone here knows this is a deceiving value; this sets the value of a service rifle at 42444.00 USD, and a fresh potato at 391.70 USD (783.40 USD/pound). I can't imagine things actually being that expensive. Accounting for the dearth of fresh food in the wastelands and the commonality of rifles, this yields a rough 100x multiplier over our world's prices for almost every item in New Vegas. I can't imagine that anyone would agree that this is a sensible value. Therefore, the most sensible thing to conclude is that gold has much lower worth in this world, 1 to 2% of its value in our world. The high end of this estimation gives a value for gold very slightly higher than the current value of silver. 1295 lbs of silver (the weight of all the bars) is still a worthwhile haul, equal to a little over 750000 USD.

A note: this exchange rate equals roughly 1.98 USD/cap. This still gives odd values like buffalo gourd seeds being worth 396 USD/lb, and a bottle of purified water being worth almost 40 USD, while stimpaks are $149 a dose (drug prices are outrageous nowadays!) The purpose of this exercise was not to create a sensible value for caps, which are a game mechanic, not a real currency. The purpose of this exercise was to establish a more relatable game value for the gold. It's a lot easier to walk away from that much gold and save yourself the trouble when it's worth 770 thousand USD, rather than the 30.55 *million* USD that much gold would be worth in our world.

-Chathamh 19:23, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * This is a good analysis. Of course, the price level would probably be much higher in 2077, just prior to the war, than it is "today"- so the nominal value of everything (rifles, food, gold) could be much higher.


 * But what's more important is to ignore the monetary aspect and consider the real value of the gold, say, by measuring them in units of service rifles, for example. Assuming a base value (per the article on service rifle) of 540 caps/rifle, then a gold bar is worth about 20 service rifles. A 35-lb brick of gold "today" would be worth over 800000USD, which could purchase perhaps 800 AR-15 style rifles. Thus you are correct in saying that gold is not as valuable in the post-war society. This makes sense, because gold has little intrinsic value; its industrial uses are limited. And when people are struggling to survive radioactive fallout, mutated animals, starvation, and murderous raiders, a rifle or a potato would be "worth" a lot more. This is something the "gold-standard" people forget- money's main purpose is to facilitate trade; real "value" only comes from the actual usefulness of goods, and a hunk of shiny metal is relatively useless. -Abrozows 20:39, August 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * On a footnote, there's also the investment angle. Look at the Mojave. Unless the Courier deliberately crushes everything, there's a lot of technological progress/rebuilding around. Gold's practical value is in conducting electricity in fine circuitry. Those bars may seem few, but are enough to go a long way in the Wasteland. Sometimes better electronics tomorrow can make you richer than a bag of caps today. 81.231.240.73 10:53, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

simple way
just get Implant GRX level2 and chemist, you'll have plenty of time. worked on xbox. Ookamikazuchi 18:03, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Moving/Stacking
Does anyone know a good way to stack these things? Is it possible with a console command to make them able to be grabbed and moved? I want to stack them in a pyramid kind of shape like they were in the vault. Wck604 12:55, October 5, 2011 (UTC)