Forum:Could We Do it?

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I have been a Fallout Fan more most of my life now, and speaking as a young man watching the world...

I bet if your reading this you thought I was going to speak on the fear that our world might turn out like, or near like to post-nuclear war world we all know and love. Granted I could speak on that but it would be extremely pointless and cause a debate in the direction I'm not aiming for...

No rather, my question is simple.

"What would you be?"

Naturally, those you have played the games, must have come to a thought, that not everyone can be the "Courier" or "Warrior" or some other pre-determined title. No, lets say the bomb went off right now. Who would you become? Would you find others, possibly friends from here and form the Brotherhood of Steel? Or would you break down into a savage raider, plundering the next and nearest Wal-mart, day from day? Or would you find your Girl/Boy friend and start a simple renewal on the plains of Kansas, trying to grow some corn, and whatever happened animals you found?

I would like to see on your own personal opinion what would you do? Perhaps if you feel the same way I do, we could try to gather and share skills and knowledge, perhaps technology and resources.

I intend for this thread to be both roleplaying and social gathering. A giant group of people with some form of knowledge on what to do's or how to do it ideas...

If this turns out successfully, we could pull off a big Fallout theme idea at a convention or ... whatever they do in Russia... I cannot remember for the life of me...

Name: Matthew Age: 22 Occupation: Electrical Enginner Group: Brotherhood of Steel/ Former Enclave

I am Legacy Tech.

12:41, June 25, 2011 (UTC) I live in a small college town in Georgia, roughly 40,000 in the county. Now, in the Fallout world, it's kinda obvious that small towns far away from big cities were rarely targeted. I'm sure my town might sustain a few hits, but not much to trouble us too much. So, for this scenario, I'm counting radiation threat as minimal.

Having given thought to this myself, I would possibly attempt to use the last of my gas to travel to a friend's house a few miles out of town. He owns 50 acres of woods, plenty of guns, lives in a good house that would be easily defensible. Hold out and watch for the crazies for a little while, move out with friends, armed to the teeth, back into town to scavenge, possibly take up residence downtown (I live in a small college town in Georgia, roughly 40,000 in the county). Scavenge, scavenge, scavenge, take down the odd crazy, pick up the odd straggler with something to offer the group, join with other small groups to form a community, travel south to the coast or maybe north to Atlanta if we really need food, settle down, and attempt to rebuild what we can. Georgia soil is decent for farming, so maybe we could start again. Survival at any cost in the early stages, until a group that can sustain itself properly and kill off any threats easily can be formed. Comb over any gun stores you can find until you are armed well enough to handle yourself with ease, and even then, still check. You never know what goodies could be hiding there. 98.17.159.27 01:43, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Id probably sit around reading the Walking Dead and taking pot shots at 13 year olds with guns from my porch.Cpanda 04:34, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Excellent! I was beginning to think no one would comment on this... However you both neglect to mention whether or not you would be part of anything, with the exception of 98.17.159.27. Based on his account, it seems he'd be a simple farmer or village folk, similiar to the civilians of Goodsprings. Cpanda seems to be more of Raider... with a kid. (chuckles) Not nessasarily a lifestyle to pass on to children but I guess the Wasteland is a cruel mistress...

I am pleased that both of you responded. To anyone else reading this, come on! post you own ideal of living. I'd really enjoy making a group of people come together to try and scratch a living out...

I, myself, have begun to stockpile worksman jumpsuits, similiar to the style your local mechanic wear when working on your automobile. Also, since I live in the area of the states that hurricanes tend to enjoy hitting... often, I have also naturally stockpiled batteries, emergency blankets, canned food etc etc.. However I noticed two things as I walked through my local Wal-mart. A: I have no skills, save for a few lessons with a .22 caliber rifle and B: These items are only temporary means of survival... Farming skills are lacking with my area of talents... Figuring this out, I relized.. That I am easy pickings for anyone remotely more experience in combat and I would need to learn how to farm a decent amount of food. Survival it seems... Is very complex. Watching those shows on the Discovery Channel and the like, shows that Survival is a deem to live, those who are prepared can make it.

So I add another question to my list. Over time, I will add more questions. To more or less make think. Feel Free to add anything you think will help.

"What will you be?" "What skills do you have to offer?"

P.S. This is an array of links to various websites that I have found both an interesting read and curious.

Vault - Co.

This man has been bloging on several end of world possibilites, not too good for the weary. However he also has been developing a DOS based operating system, very similiar to the computers throughout the Wasteland, and built his own bunker. While I personnaly many not agree with the senerioes of End-world, his efforts to prepare us are most helpful. http://vault-co.blogspot.com/

Radius Engineering International.

This website provides information on High-end models of bunkers. Extremely High-end models, if I had the money I would absolutely use this company to make a Vault. Their bunkers come with everything you need to live an extented amount of time underground, the bigger models even come with creature comforts like a theater, pools, and a hospital to have children underground! The sad part is they cost far to much for a lone wanderer to buy, however if you have the money or a group of people to pitch in own on, this is the site for you. http://www.bomb-shelter.net/

Utah Shelter Systems.

Thsi website is the other side of spectrum, for people without the nessasary cash, but still want to own a bunker. This website explains how both make one and maintain it, plus offering helpful information on living inside a bunker. For those who want to make their own vaults. This website is for you. http://utahsheltersystems.com/index.php

Pip-Clock

For those without a functioning pipboy, this is an Iphone App that will suffice until you get one. (chuckles) http://www.pipclock.com/

Additional Information on Fallout ideals:

http://www.radshelters4u.com/index3.htm http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y273/Texas_Arcane/Sparkgap/?albumview=slideshow#/grid http://survivalcache.com/ http://www.pakalertpress.com/2010/12/31/top-10-survival-downloads-you-should-have/

Again feel free to add anything you think is helpful!

I am Legacy Tech. 12:42, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Well, lets see. I live in a small town in west Texas(Odessa). Population roughly 100K people. I wouldn't call it anything near a major city, but this town is an oil field hub. Seriously, this town would not be here if it wasn't for oil. Anyways, I'm not sure as to where I would go. I have some pretty good ideas about the major locations that would be hit, but without knowing where the bulk of the bombs fell I'm not sure about what direction I would start off In. Depending on the circumstances, I would group up with my friends at the same location we would meet if it were a zombie apocalypse(yes, me and my friends have a plan-Z). From there, take stock on what supplies we have available to us and decide what location would be the best to scavenge. Seeing as this isn't a major metropolitan area, and we're about 4 hours away from the nearest large city(San Angelo), there's a good chance that the majority of the cities population would be alive and well. With the limited resources and impending riots that would occur after people realized that our infrastructure was gone, we would have to act very quickly to obtain food, water, weapons/ammo, and get the hell out of dodge. I would most likely put my vote in for Colorado in hopes that the mountains shielded a habitable area somewhat. Most of my friends and I would probably take the roll of soldiers. We would be the ones forming the group and guarding civilians that joined up with us as we traveled. I've been using a rifle since I was six, so I'm most comfortable looking through a scope. That would most-likely put me in the roll of scout/recon. I'm fairly confident that we would meet people with a vast majority of skills during our travels north which should prove ample when we start re-building. Once we arrived in what looks like a suitable location, we would begin scouring the area for supplies to build shelters. I would initially discover and mark suitable locations for settling based off of vantage points provided by the geography. No point in putting a settlement where you can't see an enemy approaching until he's at your door. I would secure my own supplies for building a snipers nest while everyone else made their own shelters and went about securing food and such. From there, we would set up solar panels (we would have already acquired these while traveling) to provide electricity for the indoor gardens we would have to set up; seeing as I wouldn't trust the soil just yet. From there on out, send out scouting parties, raid grocery stores and hospitals, scavenge lumber and metal yards for more building materials. We would work to locate and secure arms from a national guard depot, if it hasn't already been stripped of armaments. We would strive and work to rebuild the society that had collapsed. I would spend my days watching over the settlement from my nest as it continued to grow and flourish.

But, if for some reason the whole Colorado thing doesn't work out; there's 1 or 2 missile silo's for sale in Oklahoma, and I think there might even be a missile base for sale as well. The base would be perfect as it has multiple underground buildings and the silo can be converted into a multi-level housing unit that could accommodate upwards of 150 people. The terrain is flat and you would be able to see someone approach from over a mile away. Dopesmylez 16:56, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Bravo, Dopesmylez! First of all, I thank you for posting your idea and plans. It shows my efforts are at least being read by a few people. Secondly, Im glad, people have prepared for.. well any senerio. However reading what you post, I'm sure you see the limitation of your plan. First of all, once the infrastructure does fail, anything or anyone that might look like they have supplies, will be sought after; police, army, rich people, while going to Colorado is a great idea, the process on how you travel there, will need to be thought through. One, you have to take the back roads, no more super highway. Debris will hinder your progress simply from structural damage or by being in the area of attack. Secondly, Raiders (which people -will- turn into, as anyone can see the effects of hurricane katrina had on the people) Will set traps for anyone who, if they can use cars still, must have supplies.

The only other note I offer is trying to increase your knowledge. Having a group of friends willing to help you is best, because then someone can know medical knowledge, especially field medical knowledge, someone else can be your "scribe" or mechanic, and yet another who knows how to salvage materials from anything. This may seem odd, as you very well could do it all in your mind. Study it, practice it, know it, all good, however what happens if something happens to you, and places you out of commission? Redunacy is great, if your out, then at least it wont go to hell, you'll have someone who can take care of you, or at least know how to help you, if not take care of you. It would be best to form this group BEFORE any disaster, because if you rely on finding someone on such skills, then your chances are reduced. They might die before you can get to them, break down into a raiding mongrel, or simply never meet someone with those skills. I'd offer to help you, but I live in florida, and if the worst happens, finding each other will be harder than slurping up an snicker bar through a straw.

But I extremely loved reading your plans, very well thought-out and excellent planning and reason as for the whats and whys. Granted if you get some tech and more people, you could begin rebuilding as the N.C.A. New. Colorado. Army. OR whatever else you decide, but having positive outlook on life, leads to better chances at surviving... I may have worded it incorrectly, but I'm still researching and learn too, to help people. Beside since you call yourself a scout/recon, you might want to go ahead and try to make yourself some of that Desert Ranger gear. First off, its sick looking and secondly, it is designed for weathering the terrain you'll be crossing. Just a thought.

And again post away people! I am Legacy Tech. 01:15, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, oops. 98.17.159.27 was definitely me. Computer must have logged me out. Boo :( Unfortunately, there are very few locations around me that are very safe. The only one I can think of is a coal-fire power plant across the lake from where I live. Huge, massive facility, and will be shutting down in 2012, leaving plenty of opportunity for the future. It sits on an island in between two bridges, surrounded by water on 3 sides, making it incredibly easy to defend. All you'd have to do is construct some defensive positions on the two bridges, as well as a place to fall back to should one be lost. Perhaps set up a toll booth system for travelers coming through, seeing as it is the only way across the lake (which takes up a large part of 5 counties. A community would be fairly easy to run there, with almost a Rivet City feeling to it. Fishing is an option for food for a while. Considering that we live at least an hour from anything that could even be remotely considered a large town, radiation should be minimal. Course, that could go wrong any number of ways, but it seems pretty sound to me.

Survival is my only choice. If that means being a boring townie/scavenger, I can live with that. Bangarang! 22:11, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

@ I am legacy Tech. You make some very valid points. On that note though, Most of my friends comprise the ideal group of people you would want in a post apocalyptic situation. Mechanics, doctors/nurses, farmers, craftsmen/carpenters, the works. As for a mode of transportation. Off road vehicles that don't rely on batteries. As long as you can find a means to start a vehicle, most likely by rigging up a solar panel to the alternator of said vehicle to achieve the charge necessary to start a vehicle, you can transport yourself. As for fuel, I have a means of obtaining gas from a source that only about 12 people in this town know about. I know it's not a perfect plan in the general sense as par the possible occurrences you mentioned. I just like to have a base to go off of. I'd be perfectly content just taking up my rifle and settin off with enough supplies to last a few months until I found a suitable location to scavenge from. You could only plan so much for this, there's no telling how hard your general area will be hit. You might not be able to venture outside of your community for several years do to radiation. Or, the region you live in could receive several direct hits. I think about this alot. Simply because of the fact that I'm a boss at work, and I spend all day in an office. 22 Years old and I sit behind a damn desk all day. I almost welcome The Great War, just to get out of this redundant cycle that I have sucked myself into. I will gladly elaborate more later. I could go off on this for hours. Unfortunately, my roommates went out of town for the 4th and I'm the only one here. So I'm about 60% of the way through my first 750, gotta get off of here before I divert my grammar to that of this one anon on the bloc who was complaining about education being partially ruined by games when he himself could not spell properly or form a grammatically correct sentence. --The last thing you never see-- Dopesmylez 03:36, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ahh fuck. Well they say you only have 30 minutes to live if a full-scale nuclear attacked happened. Where I live that would be stupid to leave my home and go on the freeway. Where I live, over 250,000 people live in my county alone and another million live in the nearby state. My area will probably be bombarded since I live in a town in-between two cities with populations close to 100,000. For me its say good bye and I love you to my family and help cover the basement windows with dirt and plywood then grab all the food in the kitchen and bring it into the basement along with bedding, cloths and tools. Then for as long as the food can last with rationing we'll hide in the basement till it all runs out. I might pithfork my way through the concrete floors and make me a well for water, hopefully not irradiated but most likely will. Once the everything runs out and living their in the basement is a living hell I'll grab the car and we'll head up north to northern New Hampshire and Maine where hopefully they didnt get hit and begin again as a lumberer, a rancher, a farmer, a trader nothing big just little by little we grow and maybe my son and daughters will gradually rise up in ranks. Due to the radiation I will most likely not see my 70th birthday, that sucks. Always wanted to see the 300th anneversary of the Declaration of Independence in 2076. '''Let me ask you all this question. What makes us humans so different to any other animal? Because we are the only species that can prevent its own extinction and we're to stubborn to give up and die.'''--Zachattak471 06:03, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I would head to my neighbor's house to acquire some weapons given the circumstances and the number of guns he has in his gun collection, I doubt he'd mind lending me some. I would then head out to the town where I go to college as wildlife is abundant and further away from civilization than where I live and hunt, fish and live off the land for food while scavenging what other supplies I may need. I would hoard various goods that could be used for trading as who knows what the currency would become. Due to the college's on campus water treatment facility I would have near limitless amounts of pure water and multiple defensible structures including dorms, which could easily serve as my living space. I would wait out the fallout there with my family that I brought with me, raising a garden on the soccer fields and hopefully manage to get together a small community. I would do my best to act in a morally sound way, helping those I could and protecting the good from the bad etc. I would be a good guy. I'd avoid conflict when possible but when necessary I would display great skill with my chosen weapons (probably one of my neighbors 3-4 M1 Garands, one of his 5-6 1911s and a shot gun of some sort, maybe one of his Ithaca 37s). In the meantime I would do what I could to keep music going by playing my cello and/or string bass and/or electric bass, to keeping generators and batteries available to charge my music devices. Overall neither the college I attend nor my home town is all that close to a major city or at least not any major cities of military or population value. I would also use my studies in education to keep the children educated so that knowledge could be passed down from generation to generation. Richie9999 06:50, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Excellent, I'm very glad more and more people, with the exception of Zackattak, are planning ahead. Those with plans are more likely to survive than those caught unaware. To Zackattak471, I ask you this: Where did you get said information? 30 minutes? That is problaby how long it would take for a nuclear missile to hit a remote town or city, but then again, we have never actually been "hit" by a missile. Feel free for anyone to correct me if I am wrong but propaganda videos stated that it was safe to go outside after 20 minutes from nuclear fallout. Suffice to say, people merely assume, or false truths, to calm the public. If you saw a foreign food, and people said it safe to eat it, most would. The food might be horrible or delicous, but that is not the point. The point is that someone told you a "truth" and you were lead to believe it was ok. Same thing guess for modern military and government applications. A few people told a few others it was safe, so they had no reason to believe it wasnt safe to go outside. But without clear evidence we very well couldn't say either way! So I'm not sure who told you that, but I would like to believe you had more time than that...

Well over my fourth of july, I broke out my old tailoring box and began to stitch yellow cotton cloth to the back of my demin/cotton jumpsuit. After many hours, I have made a one-piece jumpsuit, to exact colours from Fallout, but rugged enough to actually be used outside, to work, farm, or raid in. With a big "21" on the back, I am just one step closer to being prepared for disaster. I offer another question to everyone reading to make the told amount of question now three.

"What will you wear?"

I ask this because, like in the game, there are -several- outfits, and some... odd combinations of clothing.... motorcycle helmets and ragged clothes are one, but between that, and actually bare-butt in the wild... I choose the odd outfit. But what will yours be? Until next time. I am Legacy Tech. 02:28, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

I live in Nashville so i cant say that my town wont get hit, it will, but on the up-side i live in a house with a large Underground bunker built during the Cold War. It has multiple rooms and its own water purfier and power generator. It has been stocked with enough food for months and months. But i do have a real plan. When i run out of food I would head up to Montana (Maybe meeting up with Dopesmylez on the way because i do pass though Colarado on the way there). Once there i would set up a Base of Operations and go look for survivers (If i hadnt already found enough on the road) Once we where set up witha fortified base and enough survivers to hold it I would go Scaving in the nearest city for Building suppys and food. Once done I would send out a radio beacan to survivers in the regian (3 states accross at least) and hope survivers find there way there and help re-build the world we lost.- Colonel Aaron

@ Colonel Aaron. I would be glad for the assistance. As for what I would wear, I would try and put together the best possible wasteland attire. I really like the veteran ranger look, so a trench coat would be a must for wandering. I'd most like to put together a helmet composed of a standard combat helmet with attached night-vision goggles with true infrared and range finder settings. I'd switch off between a gas mask and a bandanna to cover the bottom half of my face and neck. You can now buy a bullet-proof vest with the ceramic plates which will stop multiple types of high-powered ammunition. For pants I'd probably stick with the standard cargo pants you see mercenaries and marines alike wearing in movies. Gotta have a means to carry excess. I would keep it as close to solid black as possible as I would do most of my moving around at night. Also, as much as I like having anywhere from 4-6 guns on me at once on Fo, I would most likely carry my dad's Mauser. For those of you that don't know, that is an 8mm bolt action rifle. It was used by a German sniper during WWII; my dad obtained it at a gun show I believe. Since WWII the previous owners that have been in possession have modified the trigger mechanism and given it a new stock(Supposedly, the original stock had notches signifying that the sniper kept track of his kills. However I can't see why someone would remove a stock like that as it would be an attractive selling feature to a collecter). The stock itself has since been replaced, and I've never missed anything that I've shot with it. Of course I would also carry a pistol, most likely a 10mm glock. For "thicker" close range encounters, I would definitely keep a sawed off semi-auto 12guage close at hand. If I had the ability to carry another weapon, it would most likely be a AK-47 SBR. Essentially a miniature AK-47, it has all the power of Kalashnikov's masterpiece in the compactness of an SMG. Oh, I just remembered boots. I'm partial to wolverine brand work-boots; but I have trouble finding those in lace-up, and forget slip-on in the wasteland. I would definitely keep a ghillie suit in my pack along with my excess ammo, an extra scope for my rifle, food items, etc. etc. I would take extra measures to cover all of my gear in fire-retardant material as well. --the last thing you never see-- Dopesmylez 20:02, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

For me, I have an Old WW2 British Colonels uniform and Light SWAT Armor Uniform with a Black Duster(I made it myself as a Rangers Uniform Replica. The SWAT Armor is not made by me). For me i would take the Swat Armor and Duster. It is light and can protect you from the multiple Wasreland dangers. For head Protection id have to agree with Dope. I dont have Night-Vision Goggles, but i have the advantage of living near the the largst gun store in Nashville. They have all the weapons and military gear you could ever need. For my weapons of Choice id have to take these- 1. My Personal 357. Long Barrel Magnum (Which i named Lucky, it has a Club printed on the handle and is all Black. I had this before Fallout: NV by the way) 2. An AK-47, they have one for me in the Gun Shop, Tiger Camo. Named it Blaze. 3. My DB, Silver Plated (Not real silver)

Well, sounds like we have a varied group here. for the most part you are all on the "good" side of karma. I however must admit to being completely neutral. OK, i am a former u.s. army member. so i guess my skill set is pretty well rounded. i have extensive weapons training, medical training, leadership capability, survival skills. but i am lacking a knowledge of agriculture, construction, mechanics skills, and other things necessary for building a society. I am reasonably smart, and have a unexplainable ability to attract others( i can blend into any social group). plus im 21, which is an age advantage. id have to wear my combat boots, they are durable and comfortable. my acu's which are treated for flammability (i have a personally modified version that i prefer. w/ a #122 on the back). a Boonie hat w/ matching bandanna. and nvg's. this would suffice until i could fashion my own leather apparel. My weapon of choice would be an M16 mostly because im familiar with it. also its ammo and replacement part should be in abundance from other military people(doa). although i can use other weapons if necessary. as for what id do.. well im in a smaller town less than 30,000 which is in the lowest part of the valley in the state. there is a major air force base nearby which if attacked directly even by a larger nuclear device then the damage would fall short of my city. so the major risk would be radiation. weather patterns suggest that radiation should not come in my direction. SHOULD is used loosely. radiation can last from fractions of seconds to thousands of years so hard telling about that. but in any case my plan is to wait out the initial panic, rioting, and looting. i figure the violence is too risky to be in the middle of, better to let everyone thin each other out. ill rely on acquiring most supplies as i go, scavenging or trading what i have. i can also use my skills as a merc for hire if need be. i would travel light and alone at first. eventually i will need to pick up like minded people to join me or for me to join. i cannot afford to help everyone i meet but i also will not resort to petty raider means. i figure my best bet is to head for the great lakes since im close and its the largest natural fresh water source we have. i will need to rely on the skills of others once i arrive to build any kind of permanent settlement. so recruitment is a must or i will be confined to nomad status. so i cannot be the leader of my new civilization unless we are militaristic but i would be very good at protecting it and helping it in its political needs. i would be very morally Grey, and only help my people first. If anyone has suggestions please let me know. im in ohio btw. JimmyDreznaut017 "In the world I see – you're stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway."- fight club

@JimmyDreznaut017

Astonishing, you saw something I did not forsee, that most of the people writing their ideas and plans were all "good" side, persay. Well I guess that why multiple opinions are good, they allows you to see what you did not notice yourself.

As for your plans, you definitely sound neutral, only doing what you need to do to survive. A real man, like those survival shows on Discovery. You also have survival skills, at least coming from the army. I applaud you for your input, and I have no questions for you. At this very moment, as the topic progresses however, others or myself might have more to say. But for now, excellent. I am Legacy Tech. 00:16, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

thanks legacytech, i am interested in what you, the topic creator would do exactly? JimmyDreznaut017 07:03, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Me... I'm surprised that someone is actually curious... Nevertheless I will gladly share as was my intent from starting this thread.... If could why your reading this place play "Base 3" From the fallout soundtracks as you read this... it add an ...atmosphere to my plan. Here is the link to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mch1W6yPAEk&feature=related

As for my plan, I have already begun to take steps not just for my survival, but those who are dearest to me and those who would join me, As err... Per say Forming the Brotherhood before the wars start. I might a tad paranoid, however, I take from proverbs, A wise man prepares for the disasters ahead; A simpleton charges in without nary a plan or a supply. Proverbs 22:3. It might read differently depending on the bible you take it from, but the message still rings true. To that extent I have taken steps to prepare. I begun to practice using my Wellington .22 rifle more frequently, to perfect my skills with it. Also, living in hurricane territory, I naturally stockpile non-perishables and other needed items, such as battery, blankets, foam cups and plates, whatever you think, you may need during a hurricane. However... That alone is NOT enough. We need more, I DID more. I sought out people with skills, people who could teach me things. I NEEDED more. With that in mind, I located a Gateway Server computer, running RAID 5 on it, I began develop a DOS based OS system, similiar to the computer you find ingame, I had to develop it after trying to use, or actually obtain Texasarcane's version of it, was becoming impossible. I also began to stitch and sew jumpsuits, using worksman grade navy blue one-piece as my base. Tough, stain-resistant, a near perfect fit, just need some fine tuning...

As more skills I already had, I am a A+ certified technician, hence my username. I commonly find myself using old computers, since people never seem to want updating them. These old machines are a legacy, a dying design, dot-matrix printers, mini-dimn connections, windows 5 etc.

But I still need more! So I seek out more, trying to find people with survival skills, such as boyscouts, people with speech skills, such as teachers and principals... But the fight to find is hard..

As for other areas such as my plan, its simple really. As I work, day from day, I save that extra dollar, spare that extra large fries, and eat at home. All in attempt to obtain my master plan. An actual functioning community vault. The plans, while good, involve everyone being caught unaware or even planned, still out in the world above! Not me... I plan to keep my small community save. A balanced number families deep within a vault, keeping skills and live alive as the world turns and burns above... but my plan is always adapting, changing... to fix the what-ifs and the what happens.... Its constantly changing for the better as I do.

But like any good person, you problaby asked yourself or said to yourself. "Hes not going to be able to get a vault in time, or hes nuts." True, it may seem a little far fetched, howver my method of doing this are two stepped. Firestly, Ill go to mt relatives pot in South Dakota, near the quiet little town of Custard. Form there I will begin to build my base of operation... a 500 gallon, water storage tank, two small-medium curved roof storage building, similiar to a greenhouse, and with that said, can easily be transform intoa greenhouse or storage building, and a tower. From there, I will build with one of those building the entrance to my underground bunker, starting off small, like a small room, like a basement, but I'll keep going down and sideways... until it is finished. I am Legacy Tech. 18:37, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Legacy tech why did you mention russia?UnBaldio 18:41, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Why, because they did before us.... Observe this website.

http://englishrussia.org/fallout-2-for-real/comment-page-1

Also I want to express a need to anyone out there who can could help me. I want to build a solar recharging array so people can plug their electronic device into an array of batteries or Capacitors, however I am not sure if I need an inverter or something else along those lines...

Also I like to ask another question to had to my list of questions...

"What should you know?"

This question is needed skills, such as camping, firemaking, fishing etc. Lets take a vote and see what you think everyone, in order to survive, actually need to know... No sense in have 100 points in speech if every you talk is dead. (loled)

of course im naturally curious about others ideas, plans, and areas of operations. I support your vault idea, it is a great goal to find people to not only help the vault survive but also to preserve some vital knowledge- as alot of current knowledge will be lost. you have a solid plan, Custer is an isolated area surrounded by mountains and has good vegetation. should be well protected. would you allow others from the outside to join your community if they discovered it? or would you be isolationist? I would like to know how your plan is coming. as i am an unaffiliated party with no definitive goals or ties i would like to keep your vault in mind. i would like to travel to different places seeking out others and different settlements so i will pass through on my western bound voyage. and i believe you mean photovoltaic systems which at least need solar micro-inverters. as for skills, your technical skills would be very valuable. wilderness and urban survival skills(hunting, fishing, shelter making navigation fall in this set.) stealth/concealment, medical training, weapons skills/ martial skills, speech/charisma, agricultural/botanical knowledge, scientific knowledge(any category in science will help) mechanical skills(repair), technical skills, construction, alternative energy/current energy skills, lock-picking, people skills. the importance of these would change as time goes on and priorities change. leave a distinctive marker in the area of your vault for when i pass through. JimmyDreznaut017 02:45, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

@jimmyDreznaut017

Ah my friend, that is a question I have asked myself many times during a day. Do I want to removed myself from people and only have a community that is from or is the vault or will I open up to people after my door is sealed? I look out my window while driving, as observe the different life style and social groups, the prissy teenagers, those goths, the nerds etc, Being adult here, any name you call any group, redneck, whiteback etc.. it doesnt matter... But I want to include myself? I take from Vault three for oneside of the problem. A perfect vault, design and functioned like I should, like mine can. What do they do? Open their doors, and greet the first people they see... only to be...well you know what happens... Or do I go the other way, turn into a mediocre Enclave, crushing anyone who passes through Custer, friend and foe alike.... I guess something you cant plan for... People, time, enviroment. Just like in Fallout, the Boomers, Nipton, Megaton... its just a matter of... chance.

P.S. Mini converter? I could I make one, do you know how I can design one? Or can they be bought, any information you can shed would be must gratefull... All I really have now, is a Solar Array the area of a lunchbox, I've scraped and scrapped and soldered together from calculators and other solar power devices... 3v and .5 amps is its output in direct sunlight.... or uv light... Im a computer repair man, while I trying to learn basic electronics, I still havent gotten it down pat...

Repair: -12

Science: 76

I am Legacy Tech. 04:15, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

the social groups wont matter when the crisis comes and survival depends on throwing differences aside. new groups will eventually take their place. the answer will come when the time is right.. but ill still put you on my map just in case. and you need a solar inverterItalic text to convert your dc current to ac current, so you can actually harness the power it generates. you can get a conventional solar inverter which is very expensive to buy but will be cheaper to operate.(if it fails the whole system goes down). or you can use a solar micro inverter which is pretty affordable to buy, a little more expensive to operate but is used for every solar panel so if it fails then it can be replaced without losing full power(micro inverters typically increase power by 25%). there are online instructions and tips on purchasing. i would favor the micro inverter.JimmyDreznaut017 23:56, July 19, 2011 (UTC)