User talk:Ant2242/Archive 1

10mm submachine gun proper handling

 * Why is the unnamed 10mm submachine gun (Fallout 3) & (New Vegas) a single handed weapon?--Ant2242 05:18, June 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Also is there a colapsable buttstock on it? Or am I the only one one thinks this?--Ant2242 05:18, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Armed Forces Weapon standardization

 * Should it be considered cannon that it was the standard SMG of the US Armed Forces, due to it being used extensively in Operation Anchorage? Both the DLC and posibly more importantly the Anchorage War Memorial.--Ant2242 05:17, June 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * If the US Armed Forces used the unnamed 10mm SMG as standard SMG, why would an armory have stocked the .45 SMG? By comparison isn't the design obsolite? Especially for a Retro-Futuristic America? (Data from Honest Hearts.)--Ant2242 05:17, June 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * If the US National Gaurd used the R91 Assault Rifle as its standard Weapon. Did the Armed Forces use it as well? Or did they use a weapon like the Survivalist's Rifle, A 12.7mm Service Rifle?--Ant2242 05:17, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Above
Armies generally don't use SMGs, it's a special forces weapon. And they also don't just throw away perfectly functional weapons either, hence the .45 autos. --User Avatar talk.png 22:16, June 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Also I'm sure I've read Joshua Sawyer commenting on the design of the weapon, I don't know much about guns so if you're interested you should look it up. --233345-cartman1_tiny.gif Avatar talk.png 22:17, June 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * I never said that they were widly used I just asked how a over 250 year old design is still stockpiled? Espesially when they have far more efficient, far newer designs in both projectile and energy. I also asked what would be the standard weapon of this catagory? PS Sawyer didn't answar these questions. He said as you said that they were more special forces weapons, of which, no offence, I already knew and didn't ask about.--Ant2242 05:17, June 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * The size of the 10mm SMG is the same as a Tec-9, Uzi, or H&K MP5K which can all be used one handed. And no, it doesn't look like the 10mm SMG has a collapseable buttsock. Great Mara 19:09, June 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Upon closer inspection I am prity sure that your right about the size, but what do you think that that large metal thing on the side of the weapon is?--Ant2242 02:09, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't know, but the oblong ring on the forward end of it looks like a typical loop for a shoulder/carrying strap. UserGreatMara.png pistol.png 05:15, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

What ever happened to the "Famed" DKS-501 Sniper Rifle
In Fallout & Fallout 2 this weapon was used extensivly throught the California, Nevada, Washington area. Understandibly when they undated the franchise (Fallout 3) they made a different Sniper rifle (Fallout 3), but in New Vegas why didn't they bring it back?--Ant2242 23:25, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re Lover's mark stashes I read what you posted in the related discussion Talk:Lover's mark stashes
I have also heard the "References" you spoke of. I only wish I'd understood that Ghost was talking about Quotes when he said the article needed more reference, then I would have taken notes & added them.


 * I am going to add a related quotes section to the article, If you can find any exact quotes or solid reference wriiten or spoken please add them it would be invaulable.

Have fun editing M8 SaintPain → That was broke a'fore I got here! 07:24, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Corvega
I saw an anon remove that model, just before your edits and thought that was wrong. But I see (also on your userprofile page) you've dug much more into the Corvega car background than I have, so I trust your judgment in reverting my edit on the Corvega page. Jspoel  17:00, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

Dead Money Quotation
It seems to be only an issue with IE coping with the CSS attributes. Doing what you are doing is only going to solve the issue for this one page. I need to find the cause, so we can find the real issue in the CSS for a global fix. To do that I need to compare it in both states for all browsers (so the fix doesn't create a issue for other browsers also). User Avatar talk.png 21:47, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * IE is short hand for internet explorer and also the bane of most web developers life's, due to it doing what it feels like instead of following certain rules. And CSS is how the pages tell the browser to display certain elements of the page, it essentially formats the text into what the page looks like. Here IE is deciding to ignore what we are telling it to do, hence why it looks like it does in IE. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 21:53, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I may have fixed it site wide now. All you need do is a hard refresh (Ctrl + F5) of the page for it to be fixed. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 22:14, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Correction, disregard the last message. User avatar tag.gif Avatar talk.png 22:36, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Found a solution for you, just follow the instructions on this page and it should work fine for you. User Avatar talk.png 22:41, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you!!! I belive it worked.--Ant2242 17:00, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Ranger Station Charlie audio log
Nope, just an edits that messed up the infobox. Should be fixed now. User Avatar talk.png 19:36, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Anchorage Reclamation
You're correct, we don't know that, but we do know that the Canadian freedom fighters were on the offensive against the United States military. The proverb "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" comes to mind. The Americans were the enemy of both the Chinese and Canadians, so I would associate them together. --Kastera (talk) 01:04, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Isn't fighting against the same force and fighting together the same thing?
 * I think we need another opinion here, so I went ahead and asked GhostAvatar for his opinion. I also saw your question on Ausir's talkpage; you can create a new page by going down to the bottom right corner of the homepage. Under the Helping out box, you can enter the name of the page and click Create new article. Out of curiosity, what are you trying to create? --Kastera (talk) 02:34, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Unofficial beginning
Shouldn't the unofficial begining to the series of conflicts colectivly known as the Resource Wars (2052-2077) be the US invasion of Mexico (2051-Unspecified), after all the begining to that conflict started around only one year prior (2051), and had the same goals? (Controll of some of the last oil reserves on the planet.)
 * It could be thought of as the unofficial start of the Resource Wars, kind of like the Japanese invasion of China in 1937 or Russia and Mongolia in 1938. This was one of the many sparks that set off WWII, among them the one that every one remembers, the invasion of Poland by Germany and Slovakia in 1938. --Kastera (talk) 03:27, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

New pages
Just noticed your message on Ausir's talk page - you can create new pages by using the "Create new article" field/button which can be found at the bottom of the "Helping out" box on all portal pages (e.g. the main page, Portal:Fallout etc). I'll move it to a more prominent position once I get round to adapting the portals for the new site.

You might have figured it out on your own in the meantime, but I thought I'd give you a proper reply just in case you haven't :) -- Porter21 (talk) 21:27, 3 December 2011 (UTC)


 * No need to say sorry, I wasn't implying you did anything wrong :) I guess I should have worded my last sentence more clearly; I've done so now. -- Porter21 (talk) 12:34, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

FOC map
It's primarily a map of NCR holdings. I've also let real-life locations take precedence when real cities and settlements are concerned (eg. Redding and New Reno). I've also had to reconcile the difference in locations between Fo1/Fo2 for Shady Sands. I went with Fo1. I can make a more complete map, though. Would need a much bigger scale. Tagaziel 11:59, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I've relied on Google Earth to identify the positions. Feel free to improve. Tagaziel 18:31, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Check the map and locations and mark where I should move them. As for the EC civil war, it's implied in the title. There are hardly any other Euro civil wars in the Fallout universe, right? Tagaziel 12:21, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * If you need to, you can use Paint even. Use Wikipedia or Google Maps to verify the location and see if a corrction is in order. Or just list them one by one, telling me where I should move them. Tagaziel 12:48, 7 December 2011 (UTC)



Fallout 2 Worldmap - missing location
Thank you very much for informing me about the missing "Fake Vault 13". I have actually never encountered that location in any of my playthroughs of Fallout 2, but I will be sure to update the world map image when I have the time.

Also, for future reference, please leave any messages at the bottom of my user page. Took me a second to remember that pages have a "Edit History" button so I could see where your message was ;)

Ghouly89 02:31, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Current forum discussions
If you have a moment of spare time, I'd appreciate your input on these forum discussions: Thanks in advance. -- Porter21 (talk) 19:13, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Forum:Community site
 * Forum:Help pages
 * Forum:Infobox person

Unfinished Vault
Hi there Ant :)

The problem is that it doesn't have a location as such that I can just tell you where it is. Like V13, it needs to be found via holodisk/map. In this case, what it says on the page is correct and you need to go and talk to Merk, do a few tasks and then buy it off of him for 1000 caps. He can be found at the Rawhide Saloon of a night time. Anything else, just ask :).

One question for you though, why did you choose me to ask? Just curious is all.

Hope that helps 20:57, 20 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, that makes perfect sense ;). No, unfortunately it's not. Go to Merc if you really want to go there, I thought it was quite dull though. Happy hunting Menze's handwritten Guardian of the Wastes.pngGuardianoftheWastesTag.png 21:27, 20 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Please vote on my adminship request in the forum. Please do not reply to this message, as I am at an internet cafe and will not be able to reply. All votes are welcomed as I wouldn't want to be an admin without backing. Menze's handwritten Guardian of the Wastes.pngGuardianoftheWastesTag.png 18:39, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Expedition
You are correct with the definition, but failing to refer to the or part e.g. or exploration. As such since that particular expedition objects where to explorer and not to bring war, it isn't really deserving of its own page, especially when it is just repeated information from another page. There is also the question of notoriety, is it really a note worthy to deserve its own page? User Avatar talk.png 17:45, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Fallout 3 Unmarked locations page?
I think there should be a map that marks them on it, a spacific one. Or would that be counter to the frase "Unmarked Locations"?--Ant2242 19:21, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Atomic V8 model
I've reached that conclusion after reviewing available evidence. Since both are "driving paradise" ads and the bubble-top model is only seen in an earlier version of said billboard, I've decided that it's quite simpyl a case of the same car being offered with two different body styles. It's even more evident when you notice that both have the same kind of engine, basic dimensions and purpose. Tagaziel 09:46, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Because the former is the model that appears in the game and the latter does not, despite having the exact same model, scene and tagline? Tagaziel 10:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Commonwealth Defense Administration
I got it from the logo in the room in the he's found in. Shadowrunner(stuff) 05:49, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

OEI Logo picture
I can be cropped with ease, but it is of such low quality that making it larger would actually be more detrimental than showing it in context of the whole poster. Normally it such cases we would recreate the logo from scratch, as long as it can be reproduced exactly - down to the same fonts etc. Again, due to the low quality of the reference material, we cant even identify the font (especially on the second line) to be able to do that. 13:51, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Unarmed ammunition
Saw your post and wanted to tell you that developers were intending to have energy cells power the power fist and its variants, but the game engine didn't support it, according to J.E. Sawyer. --Kastera (talk) 21:34, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

FEV was found
Weston Lesko found the FEV as evedence in Those!. There should be a referance to that on this page, the supermutant(S) page(s), and prodably the EEP page.--Ant2242 18:53, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * If you can find a way to include the information in the page(s) without disrupting the flow, I say put it in. Be sure to cite your source (like "Dialogue with Dr. Lesko in Fallout 3). --Kastera (talk) 22:33, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

I did the best I could but I don't own a PC Fallout 3 so I cannot get the GECK referances.--Ant2242 01:36, 10 April 2012 (UTC) I am prity-sure there is referance to the Failed FEV subjects being injected (with FEV) while the Vault 87 supermutants being sprayed (with FEV).--Ant2242 01:40, 10 April 2012 (UTC) Also come to think of it there is no difinitive proof that age is the determiting factor to the continued growth of the Vault 87 super mutants, EX. Overloards & Behemoths.--Ant2242 01:46, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Missing FEV info
To be honest here, it has been that long since I played FO3, and I didn't really like that quest to much so I kinda flew through it not paying much attention. So the only thing I can suggest the standard wiki 'Be Bold' and add it, see if anyone objects. 10:52, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Fallout 3 locations project
I doubt that it has been, to be honest most the project where pretty in active before the split. 17:24, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Simply add your name if you wish to add to the project. As for the italics, I would do the same as with the rest of the wiki, be bold and edit. You only really need to discuss things when people disagree, but you cant find that out unless you message everyone or do it and wait for objections. User avatar tag.gifUser Avatar talk.png 22:13, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Locations
Hi, I have noticed that you have started adding sections and section needed tags to location pages. I don't know if you have read the location guidelines, but some of the sections are not required sections, so I don't know if it is part of your work in progress as part of the locations project that you will be filling them out later. If it isn't, I would probably suggest not adding the non required sections.

Just on a side note with the sections tag, if you add a pipeline and the game abbreviation after it, it would help categorise the page better. So for example if would categorise the page into Category:Section needed (Fallout 3) instead of Category:Section needed, when you add. 10:39, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Community site
I understand the concern over two separate sites; Ausir and I had a brief chat and he was thinking about bringing back blogs and doing away with the community sit. I'm speculating that's where he's been for the past week. --Kastera (talk) 23:54, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Comments like these certainly do not help anything at all. Trying to spread a sense of distrust and pseudo-superiority is completely inappropriate. This is not a competition, and being an admin at the Wikia wiki, I believe it is best if the two wikis can benefit mutually and remain in good relations. -- SigmaDelta54 20:17, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I apologise if I sounded to harsh or rash, it was not my intention. Anyhow, I wish you happy editing :) -- SigmaDelta54 01:41, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

common.css
I actually forgot to respond to this one. What exactly was it you wanted to achieve with the back ground, change it for yourself? If so, simply go to User:Ant2242/common.css and add the following text replacing the url with the desired image. 16:07, 25 April 2012 (UTC) body { background-image: url(http://www.???.com/???.jpg); }


 * That is not so simple, as your own costume CSS page only affects your viewing of the website and not others. All methods I have tried so far, end up with flawed results in a one browser or more. I have yet to find a way to actually achieve this universally. User avatar tag.gifUser Avatar talk.png 21:41, 25 April 2012 (UTC)


 * You should be able to it achieve on a single page, but only you will see the change and no one else. To do it for your on page you should be able to do it as such. User avatar tag.gifUser Avatar talk.png 21:57, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

body.page-User_Ant2242 { background-image: url(http://www.???.com/???.jpg); }


 * You have lost me, where are you getting shared backround or general fixes from. User avatar tag.gifUser Avatar talk.png 22:18, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * That is for the sites design, personal CSS isn't really allowed in there. Personal CSS should be created in User:Ant2242/common.css, such I have done in User:GhostAvatar/common.css for myself. User avatar tag.gifUser Avatar talk.png 22:30, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * There isn't a template page, just your personal CSS page as posted above, simply paste the CSS directly into there and it will work. User avatar tag.gifUser Avatar talk.png 21:24, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Thats because the url you have added is not a image. It would have to be something like this http://www.falloutwiki.com/images/a/ad/Wiki-skin-vector-background.jpg?1 which is the current background image. 23:59, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Which picture are you looking for? User avatar tag.gifUser Avatar talk.png 02:45, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I have corrected the path name in your CSS page, it should work now. User avatar tag.gifUser Avatar talk.png 02:45, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

How did you do your to do list box?
Just a simple table, just add code to yours and then create a sub page here with a list of things to do. 20:41, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

2 Flooded metros in Fallout 3.
I have yet to boot up my game and check the names. But if they are both named flooded metro in the game, then yes the pages should also be named as such - each with its own descriptive disambiguous suffix. So if Flooded metro (Arlington Cemetery-Wasteland metro) best describes that metro, then it should be named as such. Just be careful with page moves, you need to check the pages that link to it are fixed if needed i.e double redirects etc. 19:53, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * This help page might be of use to you Help:Disambiguation. User avatar tag.gifUser Avatar talk.png 19:57, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Vernon Square
Looks good. The only thing I have to say is there should be only 1 quote instead of 2. I'm leaning more towards Butchers quote, but you can choose which one you think is best. Shadowrunner(stuff) 15:05, 30 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I guess you could put it in a quotes section, but in my opinion, that doesn't really fit in a location page. Shadowrunner(stuff) 15:21, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Bubble-Top
I'm pretty sure 2 cars with the same engine but different frames are considered different models. Shadowrunner(stuff) 16:34, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, sure. Shadowrunner(stuff) 16:47, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Quotes
Not really needed. 16:30, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Which map?
Sorry, seems I overlooked your message. Yes, I meant the name displayed on the local map and the doors leading to that area:

Truth be told, the flooded-metro-related pages are a bit of a mess, so I can understand why you'd like to change it. In addition to the naming stuff there's also the issue that the current pages aren't set up consistently: Basically, the northern location has only one article for both interior and exterior, with a description of the exterior missing entirely. The southern location has one article for the outside and one for the inside with a lot of duplicated info between both. In addition, none of article names actually matches what is displayed on the local map ingame, which is rather confusing in my opinion.
 * "Flooded metro (Arlington/Wasteland Metro)": This article describes the interior of the northern station. There's no article for the exterior.
 * "Flooded metro (Minuteman metro station entrance)" (should be "entrance", by the way): This article contains info on both the exterior and the interior of the southern station. It also contains info on the flooded metro raider camp, which is a separate location entirely.
 * "Minuteman metro station": This article describes the interior of the southern station but also bits of the exterior.

What I'd suggest to do is the following:
 * Rename the northern location (currently "Flooded metro (Arlington/Wasteland Metro)") to "Arlington/Wasteland metro".
 * Set "map marker" in the infobox to "Flooded metro".
 * In the "layout" section, make subsections for "exterior" and "Arlington/Wasteland metro" (as per The Vault:LAYL).
 * Rename the southern location (currently "Flooded metro (Minuteman metro station enterance)") to "Flooded metro" and merge "Minuteman metro station" into it.
 * In the "layout" section, make subsections for "exterior" and "Flooded metro". The latter is where the description of the station interior goes.
 * Move all info about the raider camp to Flooded metro raider camp if applicable. There only needs to be a mention (with a link) that the raider camp is nearby in the "Flooded metro" article, not a description of it or the loot there.
 * Add For ("for the other "flooded metro" in Fallout 3, see") at the top of the article.

That makes most sense in my opinion. What do you think? -- Porter21 (talk) 16:23, 2 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I'd only consider the Capital Wasteland side to be the exterior of the station - Mason District South is covered by the Mason District article (and it is like this for all districts of Washington, DC). I really don't think separating the flooded metro's exterior and interior sections is helpful and understandable for readers - if it were, we wouldn't have all the duplicated info in the current articles. -- Porter21 (talk) 00:22, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, to be honest I think that'd be overcomplicating things. I've gone ahead and re-arranged the articles in a way that makes sense in my mind; see Arlington/Wasteland metro and flooded metro for the result. If someone searches for "flooded metro", he/she will end up at the article for the "real" flooded metro which has a for template leading to the northern one (in case that's what the reader was searching for). Exterior and interiors are merged and the article setups correspond to the usual location layouts. I think that's far less confusing than having 4 articles.


 * By the way, I've also noticed there's actually another article about the flooded metro raider camp: Raider outpost. I think the latter should be merged into the former.


 * Finally, a little side note regarding the for templates: You only really need those on pages where the page title could reasonably refer to something else. For example, it's needed on flooded metro because there's another map marker with that name, but you don't need one to link from flooded metro raider camp to "flooded metro"; there's really not much reason to think someone arriving at the raider camp article would really have been searching for the metro article. Basically for is used in the context of "if you searched for this term, you might really have been looking for X" and not as "see also these related articles". I hope that's somewhat understandable :) -- Porter21 (talk) 18:19, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Traps pages
Scenario 3 in the Help:Disambiguation page is probably the best course of action. Since the skill is the proper noun, while the other page is just the logical name we have given it. So basically Traps as is and name the other page traps (devices) and add a hatenote to both pages. 22:35, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

JE Sourcer
All you need to do is click the 'share' button on the post you want to reference. It'll give you a URL that takes you directly to that post, then you just cite that URL as per usual, like on the brush gun page or something. Nitty the Kitty! 01:45, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Dialog
I've always thought of making a project with dialogue trees and transcripts of characters, but it would take an extremely long time to create, and it would be hard to think of a tree layout on pages.  Broc    msg   22:39, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Keep it up
Hey, I just came here for a moment to mention that u doing a great job here. --Languorous_Maiar 22:47, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Should there be a generic King page?
The King page should be converted to a disambig page, instead of redirecting towards The King.


 * Nope, the Kings faction should stay as it is, as this is the proper name. Plus there isn't any real need, as the generic Kings characters are not called Kings either, they are named "Kings gang member" in-game. So the page name here would be the same. User avatar tag.gifUser Avatar talk.png 19:37, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Background
It wasn't actually me, it was Porter who fixed the link in your CSS file for you. 20:52, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * You're welcome :) -- Porter21 (talk) 21:13, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Darkawters
Mhm, right. Not for senior, like Gannon Senior, but for soldier, sure. Thx. --Languorous_Maiar 17:24, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

No need
Because there is already a page quote at the top of the page, any others should be added to the page content as inline quotes. 10:02, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Enclave Sigma
It is in Enclave military strength. --Languorous_Maiar 19:34, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Autumn (Senior) /Senior
Yep, like them, if he isn't directly referred to as senior, then the page name should be changed also. 11:42, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Roger Westin III
Hey. That guy must be a descendants of Roger Westin. Every evidence show that he is, there is no other know family with Westin surname, and he is named third, not just Roger Westin, which shows that he is third man from that family with those names. Also, both are from NCR. Roger Westin haven't any family in 2241, then Roger Westin III can't be from cadet branch of Westin family. --Languorous_Maiar 17:14, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Pregnancies from intercourse
It is certainly by radiation. Also, Valerie is from intercourse, because she was born before GECKO-time. In addition, quote. "Well, actually... you see, this is something I've been thinking about recently, but Citizens don't seem to have accidental pregnancies. The only successful pregnancies have been facilitated by the Auto-Doc. You know, background radiation might be resulting in sterility or even worse, chromosomal damage. Might be worth checking out." But thanks for all the other changes. ;) --Languorous_Maiar 17:58, 18 July 2012 (UTC)


 * hey, again me. That quotation from Bible 0 should be rather treated like non-canon. This information ultimately didn't occur in the game. Vault City has problem with energy, having 100 residents (Unthinkable what would happen if that vault could have 1000.) Also, vault wasn't "open on time", but open on all-clear signal. --Languorous_Maiar 21:09, 18 July 2012 (UTC)


 * This would mean, that VC had to lose 900 people from 2091 to 2241, which is about 150 years old. Such a large decline in population, sure would be refered in game. Surely it would be bigger problem, than problems with pregnancies from intercourse. Such a decrease is rather little possible, taking into account aversion V8 Dwellers to the outside world. --Languorous_Maiar 21:30, 18 July 2012 (UTC)


 * In Fallout Bible? I don't know why you asked about 17 vaults. mhm. If Fallout Bible conflicts with the actual game, the game is more important. Examples: Psykers (The Bible tells them bye-bye), Ghouls (By bible created by FEV and radiation, in canon, only by radiation), Mrs. Bishop and jet etc.


 * I don't know the source, now I cannot find any. Do what you think is right.--Languorous_Maiar 21:48, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Transclusion troubles
Frankly, I don't know what you did wrong because I don't know what you did. If you tell me what you've tried, I can help you further. But what I do know is that there isn't a way to transclude select sections of a page to another; it sounds like your best bet would be to just copy/paste the sections want into the page. --Kastera (talk) 05:33, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Hey. Look at Washington Monument background in edit mode. You must always put something like  and at the end  Later in article something like For example, I have already done 1 facility in your sandbox. --Languorous_Maiar 06:26, 21 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I should have been more clear; I meant you can't transclude certain parts of a section (like certain sentences). Other that that, it looks like LangMa explained it well. If not, I can do the transclusion for you. I understand what you're trying to do now. --Kastera (talk) 06:36, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Lyons' Brotherhood rewrite
Before you devote too much time: I've already rewritten the organization and technology headings to a satisfactory level. The facilities heading is a good addition, though (possibly as a sub-heading of Organization). A few other points:
 * Do not, I repeat, DO NOT, transclude the entire History of the Lyons' Brotherhood of Steel into the main article. The point of me separating and hard-citing the history was precisely so that we didn't have to clutter up the main article. Transcluding entire sections kind of defeats the point. Make a concise summary: take the History article, cut out everything that's not relevant to having a general idea of their backstory. Mention:


 * Expedition summary (when, from where, to where, objectives)
 * The Purge (when, from where, objectives, who was lost)
 * The arrival and activities (switch in orders, defying orders, the West disavowing Lyons)
 * Schism overview (who, summary why, where did they go)
 * War with the Enclave (why, MAJOR operations)
 * Changes in BS

Transcluding the entire article defeats the point of having it there in the first place.

Technology and organization are, I think, covered sufficently and cited where applicable. Good work overall, Ant, I just wanted to clear a few things beforehand, so that you wouldn't waste time. Regards. Tagaziel 15:26, 21 July 2012 (UTC)


 * History in main article should be in one section, like Caesar's Legion backgound. --Languorous_Maiar 16:55, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Im not sure how to fix the references, what to put in the overview, and what to finish the backround with.--Ant2242 03:18, 22 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I really don't know. I think the article's fine where it is, I'm more preoccupied with whether or not my loot percentages for the OWB bosses looks alright in the item boxes or not. :V Nitty the Kitty! 17:32, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

FO3 clock
Umm, never? I've played a Fallout 3 file that goes clear into 2280. If you're asking when the game "ends", I'd say it's somewhere in Spring of 2278. --Kastera (talk) 00:00, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

FNV locations
If you ask Porter, he could write up a macro for his bot that adds the project tag to all the pages in Category:Fallout: New Vegas locations. He'll be back in five days. --Kastera (talk)

JSawer Item packs
I don't not know where they spawn, as I do not have the mod myself. 17:49, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Smiths
I redirected Mr Smith to Smith (employer), since all the information (and more) was already on Smith (employer). --Kastera (talk) 19:13, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Dialogue project
I think this is something you should bring up in the forum so everyone can weigh in. I personally have no preference; it seems like to much work for a really simple problem (resolved by just talking to people in the game). --Kastera (talk) 00:16, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

FNV locations project
Sure - I'll take care of it later today. -- Porter21 (talk) 07:13, 2 August 2012 (UTC)


 * A bit later than promised, but this is now done. -- Porter21 (talk) 09:03, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Fanon Wiki
Just noticed this post of yours on the Fanon Wiki. I think I know what this is caused by - are you using Internet Explorer? -- Porter21 (talk) 08:15, 3 August 2012 (UTC)


 * There is currently a bug with the captcha (the thing where you have to select cat photos) - no matter which photos you select, it always fails when using IE and hence you can't register. We're waiting for a fix but I have no idea how long that'll possibly take. In the meantime, you could try registering with a different browser - after registration you should be able to log in with IE just fine. -- Porter21 (talk) 07:06, 4 August 2012 (UTC)


 * It should work fine with pretty much any other browser. You could use Firefox or Chrome, for example. -- Porter21 (talk) 08:05, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Conversation
Here's a source for the dialogue editor. Tagaziel 21:08, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

The Mom
With all due respect, I never said you copied it. I just said you could copy the background if you pleased. ToCxHawK 17:57, 16 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Haha don't worry about it. I'm not one for causing any problems. It's all good. At first I was like, 'The fuck is he talking about?' then I read what I said, and I could see where you might have misread it. But all in all, no worries, no harm was done :P ToCxHawK 02:19, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Fusion Flea Supreme
It came from No Mutants Allowed's Preview of Fallout 3. http://www.nma-fallout.com/article.php?id=38620    Broc     msg   05:10, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Its two paragraphs above the "Vault Secure" photo on the first page, where it says "Hines walks up to a pool"    Broc     msg   08:03, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Mista Yesterday
Yeah, definitely. I'd make a page for anyone that's mentioned once, but Mr. Yesterday seems to be an important, if not shady, member of the Sierra Madre staff. Shadowrunner(stuff) 01:53, 9 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Not usually, but if they're pretty important to the story, like Vera Keyes and Fredrick Sinclair, I'd add them for their importance in the whole of things, but if they're just mentioned once or twice only in terminals and by none of the in-game characters, I wouldn't add them, Mr. Yesterday. Shadowrunner(stuff) 01:41, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Brahmin Baron
Yeah, I was actually thinking of making that myself. You can make it if you want, I'll add on to it when you're done. Shadowrunner(stuff) 02:37, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Maps
You can just copy the code. If you want to make clickable imagemaps, I've recently installed a tool for myself, just copy User:Tagaziel/common.js to User:Ant2242/common.js. The tool's available on the image description page. Tagaziel
 * The tool should be available on the Image Description page. Tagaziel 22:38, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Kimball
Kimball was an NCR general until 2274 when he retired to be a congressman, so it's entirely probable that he led the enterprise. --Kastera (talk) 16:33, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
 * But one can assume that Kimball led the expedition as he is the only named general of the NCR Armed Forces (barring Oliver since he replaced Kimball after Kimball's service). Therefore, logic would say Kimball led the forces in the campaign through Owen's Lake. --Kastera (talk) 16:56, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Probably a good idea... go ahead and do that. --Kastera (talk) 17:28, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Looks good to me. --Kastera (talk) 20:50, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Reference format
I typically use Tagaziel 08:22, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * If you plan to add more references, could you only add them as needed? References that come directly from the dialogue of small-time characters is easy to come by so anyone knows it, meaning the isn't needed. Terminal entries and complex character dialogue on the other hand are lesser known tidbits that should be used for referencing. --Kastera (talk) 01:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

As a rule of thumb, never delete references, complete them. Also, can you please drop the "dialogue" bit? Everyone knows it's dialogue if you are quoting a character. Tagaziel 08:12, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Raul
Yeah, I'll do some rewrites when you're done. Shadowrunner(stuff) 18:07, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Swampfolk
I'm not sure that swampfolk could be considered their own faction. To be a faction, there has to be some underlying common cause they identify with but the swampfolk are just living in Point Lookout and keeping their territory theirs. They're no more a faction than a bear that claws up a tree or a wolf urinating on a bush. --Kastera (talk) 20:53, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Alas, they could be a faction due them having a society/religion, but another page detailing it is unnecessary as it can all be noted on the Swampfolk page without the addition of "Swampfolk (faction)" or the like. I'll see if I can put the info in pages 44-5 into the article into a sensible form and ask you if it's to you liking. --Kastera (talk) 22:19, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. I've already gone ahead and removed the 'split' tag from the page in addition to integrating game guide info. --Kastera (talk) 22:37, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

President - reference
What about "March: Prepared for a nuclear or biological attack from China, the President and the Enclave retreat to the Poseidon oil rig and make contingency plans for continuing the war."? --Languorous_Maiar 16:07, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

It indicate the last president was also the leader of the Enclave (and therefore their continuity of USA is legitimized). If there wouldn't be sentence "President and the Enclave" and just "the Enclave", then we wouldn't know that last president was part of Enclave even if he was. Why? Because there is no other source of information, which could confirm that.  And more importantly, Enclave certainly wouldn't take someone extraneous to their main base. --Languorous_Maiar 22:08, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Admin
http://www.falloutwiki.com/The_Vault:Administrators_and_moderators#User_rights_requests

Mostly just have to make a forum topic asking for admin, and if everyone agrees, you become an admin. 14:42, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Stockman's Association
It certainly doesn't appear to be a division of the NCR government; it looks like a it's just a private organization, so it should go in the 'Related' field. --Kastera (talk) 07:00, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Signs
Do you want both the sign and post or just the sign? Shadowrunner(stuff) 20:29, 6 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Do you mean something like this? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Nevada_157.svg Shadowrunner(stuff) 20:42, 6 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I can't get the post with the sign as the post just wants to become transparent with the background. So I can only get the sign. Shadowrunner(stuff) 20:52, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Promoting the Vault
Come join a more focused topic here: Forum:Promoting_the_Wiki. Tagaziel 16:42, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Admin rights
Sorry for the delay - admin rights granted! Ausir 03:58, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations! You have been working hard and almost non-stop, and you certainly deserve the extra tools to help you in your efforts here at The Vault. 67.187.96.246 04:04, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * This is the most monumental thing that has happened to The Vault... well, since the split. Callooh! Callay! --Kastera (talk) 02:25, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations are in order, Ant. You're a dedicated editor who earned this cat's respect. Good job, man. Complimentary exclamation marks: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) Tagaziel 21:54, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Images
Hey, I saw you took some pics but didn't remove the hud (the crosshair is still visible) I just wanted to know if you know how to get rid of the hud while playing? Shadowrunner(stuff) 16:58, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Contribs
Saw your perfectionist section :)

It will be easier for you to use Special:Contributions/Tagaziel, I think :)

Regards, Tagaziel 18:14, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I've adopted the format you suggested for my most recent contributions (since Robert, I think). Also, you're doing a great job :) Tagaziel 21:29, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Graffiti
I uploaded a bunch of graffiti pics, but I don't know where they go and you seem to be the one that edits the graffiti page the most. Check the upload log for them. Shadowrunner(stuff) 03:00, 31 January 2013 (UTC)


 * ok, I remember form past plays seeing a few of these, but I can't remember where. Also don't forget the Lonesome Road graffiti I uploaded as well. 05:24, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Reference format
I'm not sure. I usually just add the relevant quote, one ref per quote. Tagaziel 20:10, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Add all of them in separate ref tags? Tagaziel 07:42, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Broken Steel transitions
My first thought was in the notes section of Broken Steel, but it didn't sound right. Now, I think they would fit in best somewhere like Death from Above (in the notes). That's the closest time after the Lone Wanderer hears the lines. --Kastera (talk) 13:53, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

FO3 pass cards
Hi! There are no blue pass cards in FO3. --Theodorico aka 85.141.155.112 13:41, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Enclave
References. Just curious. --Languorous_Maiar 19:17, 4 March 2013 (UTC) He can but his child wouldn't be Enclave member. : D Even Arcade isn't member of Enclave (and he isn't pure). All of them were in Oil Rig, only small number (its a fact, just play f2) were in Navarro. Then Oil Rig was nuked, some deserted (like Brandice), some gets killed by NCR (if not during NCR attack for Navarro, then just during peace time [refenced by F:NV loading hints]). How they can survive? They can't, only Enclave from east can. It's obvious man. Just that:

Enclave is clearly (!) dead and completely wiped out in Core Region. If they integrated, they're no more Enclave, and all those, who traveled east... are in east, not Core Region. --Languorous_Maiar 19:50, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Cold War
Imho you could create it, but we don't know even who participated in this war, USSR or China. --Languorous_Maiar 13:57, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Collector's Edition
I've been trying to get my hands on it for quite some time! Ant, you made my day.

Made my damn day! Congratulations! Damn, I have no idea how to thank you for that. Tagaziel 09:46, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Minor edits
This request in and of itself is minor, but since you're an admin and often make major edits could you go into your preferences and change 'Mark all edits as minor by default'? Thank you. --Kastera (talk) 15:23, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Done.--Ant2242 15:36, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

More refs FOR THE REF GOD
http://www.falloutwiki.com/Forum:More_JES_refs

REFS FOR THE REF GOD QUOTES FOR THE QUOTE THRONE

Tagaziel 15:30, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Also, I've made the Republican Farmer's Committee page :) Tagaziel 15:30, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

CC-BY-SA
Hi Ant,

As a fellow administrator, I'm sure you appreciate that this is a message I'd rather not send you. However I am alarmed that a number of recent edits appear to be items wholeslae copied from Nukapedia without proper attribution.

Like the Vault, Nukapedia works on a CC-BY-SA basis, meaning other sites (including the Vault) are welcome to use our work, as long as the conditions of the license are being met, this includes attributing the source of the work.

A number of quotes have been added to character pages by User:Broccoli.. Whilst I do not discount the possibility of paralell development, that a significant number of these seem to have been copied wholesale leads me to suspect that this is not the case.

I've checked a number (but not all) for similarity, and note at the very minimum the following seem to have been copied without any attribution.


 * Wint
 * Spook
 * Wildmen
 * Squill
 * Vallincourt
 * Sibley
 * Smuggler
 * Sally (Mothership Zeta) (this one is in our rotating content template).
 * Reddup
 * Rip Smithy

I would like to ask that these (and any other pages where this is an issue) edits be reverted, and then readded with proper attribution, including a link in the edit summary to the originating page. It may also be a good idea to remind your users their obligations under the CC-BY-SA license.

I'll be in Nukapedia chat in 10 hours or so if you'd like to discuss this further. Agent c 12:19, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks
Appreciate it. Well, here on The Vault, I found quotes from YouTube videos, Fallout 3 playthroughs, or eventually, looking back at Nukapedia. However, I wasn't exactly copying. At Nukapedia, nearly every single Fallout 3 character's quote was added by me. Most of it was my own work, so it wasn't exactly copying. But however, when I begin Fallout: New Vegas character quotes, I certainly won't use Nukapedia, since I barely did anything for the Fallout: New Vegas quotes parts, and I'll use YouTube videos and my own memory.

Basically, I watched YouTube videos, used a playthrough, and looked back at Nukapedia for a quote since most of it was done by me. I didn't completely use Nukapedia for this, though. I did also put different quotes in here and there that I felt were better instead, and tried finding others.

I would never copy, which is why I won't be for when I get round to Fallout: New Vegas. But I did so for Fallout 3 since almost all of it was my own work.  Broc    msg   17:05, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll check it out.  Broc    msg   17:11, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Quotes
I guess you can add them to their respective character pages. Most of it is already here, I think. Tagaziel 08:32, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Rose Disambiguation
If Rose is going to be the disambiguation page, you'll have to redirect pretty much everything from Special:WhatLinksHere/Rose to your new Rose (Fallout 2) page. I felt that just using "Scenario 2" from Help:Disambiguation (ie, the Harold (disambiguation) example) was easier (as well as being more in keeping with what people are more likely to link to). Unless I'm missing something here? But if you'd rather update all those links, I suppose it's pretty much the same either way. The calculator 02:56, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Pubs
What do you mean? Can you give me an example? Tagaziel 19:59, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmm. We do have a category for eg. Coping With Mr. Virus!. Would it suffice? Tagaziel 20:15, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmm. We need a mentioned-only publications category. Can you create it? Category:Mentioned-only publications, categorized under Category:Mentioned-only content? Tagaziel 20:28, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I think we need to restructure it a bit. Let me ponder it overnight. Tagaziel 20:54, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

I think we could use a general overhaul of the category system, as it's a bit cluttered up right now. I helped make one for the Deus Ex wiki and it can be adapted easily to fix minor problems here: http://deusex.wikia.com/wiki/Deus_Ex_Wiki:Navigation_scheme

What do you think? Tagaziel 07:39, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Dialogue transcripts
By the way, if you're doing dialogue transcripts, wouldn't it be easier to simply export the dialogue text from FO3/FNV? You can filter by NPC in the dialogue editor and hit export. Tagaziel 10:27, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Aren't you using Obsidian's dialogue editor? It shows the dialogue trees. It's the right-most button on the button bar. Tagaziel 14:58, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Guide cache
OH MY GOD I LOVE YOU

I wanted to get my grubby paws on that guide segment for SOOOO LONG. OMG finally a way to reconcile the damn timeline!

How can I ever show you my appreciation? Maybe something from GOG.com? Tagaziel 10:12, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Corvega ad
The concept art is simply a pristine version of the advertisement. When you have two versions, use the higher resolution, cleaner one. Tagaziel 17:21, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Disregard that. I think I found an acceptable compromise. Tagaziel 17:29, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Publications
Sounds like a good idea. Maybe "in-universe publications"? Ausir 21:58, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

NCR history edit
I tried to merge my changes, but I had to overwrite your reference modifications. Can you redo it? Sorry for the inconvenience :( Tagaziel 18:44, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Template Help
When you get the chance, check out out your TP on Nukapedia. I have linked you to the template that you've been looking for. I apologize if it took a while for you to get that information. 67.187.96.246 20:43, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Ads
On the internet there are particular programs called adblockers, available for most common internet browsers. They're extremely frowned upon because they deprive our glorious host site of ad revenue. Under no circumstances should you download one, regardless of whether or not the ads are actually hampering your ability to edit. Nitty the Kitty! 21:18, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Just download an adblocker and pretend I never told you to. D: Nitty the Kitty! 00:01, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm totally not telling you to use Firefox and use its AdBlockerPlus add-on. Nitty the Kitty! 04:07, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Red links
That is odd, but not detrimental. If you follow the red link, it goes to the correct page. The parenthetical in the red links is Polish: "strona nie istnieje" (page does not exist). And the last person editing the Vault City page was Tagziel, so maybe his Polish Black Magic made that page into the Polish wiki. Anyway, I just had to remove a stray on the page and the links cleared themselves up. --Kastera (talk) 23:27, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Yet more black magic from the wiki; it shows I did nothing to the page, but the red links are gone. I'm going to go find a priest to perform and exorcism on my computer now... --Kastera (talk) 23:29, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Randall Clark
Figured I'd like you know that Shadow has reverted our changes. I sent him a rebuttal, but I know that it's hard at times for anons to be taken seriously by those with special rights. Would log in and argue, but it appears that the password recovery system is broken for me. So maybe he'll listen to you over me, because I think it's pretty dumb to say that a character is mentioned only, simply because he's dead. If that was the case, how come we don't consider others like Trash or Martin Retslaf as mentioned only characters? 67.187.96.246 04:17, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

{Narration}
I'm not sure that's needed, Ant, where the full quote is already present. Do add the full quotes from the GECK where only portions are present (like in the old House quote), I'll process them later. Thanks for a smashing job so far. :) Tagaziel (talk) 06:10, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

STOP WHAT YOURE DOING AND LISTEN
The dialogue file exports you are posting? They can be imported into a spread sheet in Excel or OpenOffice Calc; thanks to the way in which they are exported, they land in columns, already organized. That way you can strip the unnecessary information and just post the strings! This was done in 5 minutes with OpenCalc. Tagaziel (talk) 08:40, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sure. Trimmed them by accident. FNV has some important stuff there. :) Tagaziel (talk) 16:26, 28 June 2013 (UTC)