Forum:Enclave in Lonesome Road

This could be nothing more than coincidence, but I think there may be some involvement. If you Listen to ED-E's logs, you find it was sent by "Whitley" an Enclave scientist, and if you look at the Lonesome Road info page you will find Dr. Whitley as a listed character. Perhaps the same person, and if so then there may be an entire Enclave base. They could easily be hidden there, especial when few dare make the journy and no one who tries makes it out alive anyway. And Ulysses does carry the old world flag, perhaps a another clue. So what does everyone else think? I have a few more thoughts but just wondering if this sounds possible to begin with. —Preceding unsigned comment added by XxSick DemonxX (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~ !

ok so your saying Ulysses is a enclave member doubt it and it is possible but highly unlikely

Perhaps not traditional Enclave. His personality, such calling the Brotherhood a tribe, shows he wouldn't likely be a "pure human" like the Enclave zealously want to have in existance, but maybe this is because of a change in agenda. The Remnants for the most part exist in society with few problems showing that the kill all imperfections isn't completely hard wired,and after losing so much, to very small numbers (players from previous games) they revamped their ideaology. Explains it being an old world flag, not an Enclave one

The acheivements for uprading ED-E seem to be giving some merrit to the theory, and I can't wait for this DLC to find out XxSick DemonxX 03:28, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

That's an interesting theory. It'd be cool to see if there's an abandoned Enclave base in the Great Divide.--Ryker6108:12, August 9, 2011 (UTC)~1:09am 8/9/2011 "For the struggle of survival is a war without end!"

Ulysses DOES however wear the Old World Flag. In Old World Blues he says the old world flag IS NOT DEAD..........

It could be something as simple as other experimental Eyebots sent cross country towards Navarro and got caught up in whatever happened or is still happening in the Divide and you find them and scavenge their parts or a Vertibird which exploded in-flight and scattered its cargo all over. I mean, throwing in more Enclave stuff kinda diminishes the significance of Arcade and the other Remnants in the main game. Dr. Lobotomy 01:56, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

True, but the first thing that comes to mind when I think Old World is the Enclave, simply because they're living parts of it. Kinda like ghouls, they've made it through everything but they aren't pretty. My next best guess would have been a haven of pre war tech, but OWB already had that theme and I doubt they'd double dip. Maybe there's a more rational, protective faction out there based of pre war American, like the NCR but taking its name more directly. Probably wouldn't be a major faction in a DLC alone, maybe just introducing the set up for a future game. XxSick DemonxX 05:26, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Just so you know, im pretty sure that ede's whitely is Whitely, not Lonesome Road's Whitley. Charlie1121 00:28, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I have that. Despite thinking I had checked that before posting, I was wrong. So unless there's a typo and they're running with it or they throw out some strange circumstance (like he slightly changed his name after leaving the Enclave or something) then my idea was discredited. Still wouldn't mind seeing something Enclave related. Even if its subtle, or sets it up for them to show up in the next game. Like finding a derelict military instilation, where in you find a working radio. Upon activating you over hear a conversation letting you know that they're still out there.

Inspiration for the flag then has me wondering what other direction they'll take this, if not Enclave XxSick DemonxX 14:57, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Well according to the background the Enclave were leftover US Army and such, taking a purest view. It would make sence for the flag on Ulysses as a tie in. Perhaps an Enclave faction's markings from a hidden installation, not unlike the BOS in Hidden Valley but on a much grander scale. If he were in fact Enclave and the Courier was infact The Wanderer, it would explain his hate on for you.Carinth 15:49, August 16, 2011 (UTC)