Forum:Join Enclave anyone?

After playing FO3 for what has seemed like months on end, I don't see why Bethesda did not allow for joining different factions as it did in Oblivion, and joining the Enclave would have made for a great DLC, anyone else think so? The Enclave are so badass compared to the BoS, have better equipment anyhow, why I found nothing interesting about the BoS, and you can't even use the Vertibird after broken steel.EnclaveGuy 23:43, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Bethesda's writers are talentless hacks, there's your reason. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 10:01, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * "Bethesda's writers are talentless hacks" - yeah thats so right! Only talents hacks could make a number of multi million dollar and award selling games. If we take your logic one step further then and compare Betrhesda's talentless hacks to you, that they're success game designers with loads of cash and kudos and you...well your just here on this wiki whinging and trolling all the time, I think the prize of supreme talentless hack has to go to you! congratulations!

Yeah, but they ruined what was near perfected in Oblivion. EnclaveGuy 20:22, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

i know this is off topic but i think i have to say it, i like Bethesda and thay have some good righters, nothing was rong with the oblivions (in my OPINION) so dont get all mad cuz im a hard core fan that likes Beth... i would like to say u kinda can, at the end u can do what thay want. --MrDot01 20:48, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

One does not join the Enclave. You're either born into it, or you're a mutant. Its as simple as that. Maybe a few missions with the enclave could work, but it would have to result in the Enclave trying to dispose of you at the end with a suicide mission - you're not one of them and you never will be.

Its got nothing to do with Bethesda's writers being "Talentless Hacks" unless you'd like to add Fallout 2's writers in to the same bin Agent c 23:31, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

^ Best answer! P.S. Autumn isn't such a bad guy. He wasn't genocidal like Eden was. He actually wanted to bring the American government back to the Wasteland. A horrible misconstrued dictatorial version of it, but not a Genocidal one. Who knows. He may have even held elections. Still would have killed all the ghouls, but who cares about them? Hehe. Except my Charon. I bro-love my Charon. ~Hemms2

This isn't about the storyline; in Oblivion( still my fav) you could join numerous factions, 2 evil, 2 good, 3 or so others that were obtainable via storyline. Fallout 3 only gives BoS as a true faction, as all the rest were too insignificant. EnclaveGuy 02:36, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

The Enclave may send you on a suicide to kill you, but if you come back I'm sure they would accept you. On the ghoul-killing topic I think they are right, grab the flamers men. Mr. Vault Freak,  You need something?  21:36, September 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * With the Enclave their Prime Directive is to restore the old US, and mutants are incompatible with that goal - useful/resilient or not, by their definition you're a mutant. With the BOS' Suicide mission, the VD's existence isn't incompatible with collecting and maintaining technology, so it kinda works there.Agent c 00:48, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Well the reason you can't join them is less Bethesda has bad writers and more the fact that the enclave believe that there are two groups in the world pure born Enclave and scum infested mutants who should be killed.--Woot 02:22, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

the only problem is that i can barely fathom allying with the enclave cuz theyre such pains in the ass. i really hate when i try to enter dc by way of fairfax, cuz the camp on the hill between them consists of 2 officers, 6 soldiers, 3 hellfires, and 2 eyebots. my xuanlong ar went from perfect to broken in that one fight. Shepherd&#39;s ghost 02:36, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

ok i said it befor and i will say it now, you never really join the BoS untell the last part of the game. even then you can still just say fuck it and help the enclave. Oh ya Vault freak the Enclave dont work like the BoS, the second you made it back from that missin thay would kill the hell out of you --MrDot01 20:52, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Or.... they would just keep on using you to do the jobs nobody else can. The Vault Freak,  Hey!  21:30, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

optimism is good and all but just by looking at what the Enclave dose and how thay work thay would just kill you the second you ran out of shit to do, if your not enclave born then the enclave dont whant you even for the crap jobs--MrDot01 22:33, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Hell, if you look at the intro to the past fallout games, it shows they will kill those outside the enclave that are pure as well. For example, the sanitary vault opened up, a family of father, mother, and two kids waved at the enclave come to the vault, and they opened fire with mini-guns. The Enclave think only they are pure, and all else must die, simple as that. And I'm new here, hello! Mafia Mettaur 21:59, October 22, 2010 (UTC) Welcome to the club Mafia, On topic though, I agree with the enclave much more so than the BoS. Im not saying that the BoS were "Boring" but I do think that the enclave have a better outlook, we may not rember how to make an ok R91 lazer rilfe, but we do know how to harvest the awesome power of a plasma rifle, and while the Enclave want progression, the BoS, well, I really don't know what they are trying to do for humanity, and while Eden might be planning the mass murder of all mutants, the BoS arn't sympathizers (talk with the ghoul outside of Underworld) so we have a regressing,spread out, non communitive (Really? If you can't keep an eye on your leaders?" ) army. I would rather join a strong competent army, who dishis out a nice batch of tough love on the wastes, than entirley pointless struggle trying to garner old world tech... At least one will eventualy get their job done.Goodinbad 13:41, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

I would like to believe there is another way into the Enclave ranks, however that is not perfect as well. You would need to be part of what they call "Pure Human Stock." AKA The humans that didn't die horribly in the Vault Experiments. One place that would include is Vault City. But they would "possess" you like properity of the US Government for their needs.... Unless you could butter up to them somehow... but this is all ideal.

I really like the Enclave but I do think there is not logical way into the Enclave, but I'll be happy to at least be a mercenary for them and be a part of a bright future. I see it as a way to make the wasteland better and maybe even an alliance between the two, but not literal members but kind of in the same posistion as you are or even prodocorate, I can see it, though it would require a silver tongue for it. Though it would probably never happen because of many people not liking the "nazis". Thats just my two cents.Dmitri the wanderer 03:35, June 7, 2011 (UTC)