Talk:Paciencia (GRA)

3 Shots?
All I need is one.--OmnipotentPotato 21:09, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Now I see why they named it 'Patience' I love these kinds of guns. It even has a neat Mexican flag on it. How cute is that? --Felix BrehhUser Avatar talk.png 21:35, September 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * For only three shots, I wonder if it will use one of the larger bullets. Guess we'll be having fun tomorrow. UserGreatMara.pngge 03:39, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't need larger bullets, 1 shot kill on ANY body part on non-armored human targets. Nebenthe 23:44, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

For anyone who saw my rant hoping for powerful scopeless Rifles
My dreams have come true. I can't wait. an0my(talk) 23:45, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

This gun, will make me happy.OmnipotentPotato 01:25, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

I REALLY hope the adjust the sights this time. The stock hunting rifle's was misadjusted. (189.55.118.179 03:32, September 27, 2011 (UTC))bobby90

sometimes the most basic rifles are the best i mean this and medicine stick two of the most beutiful rifles ive ever seen --Corporal grif 03:57, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not Mexican, but the flag adds a nice touch.--OmnipotentPotato 04:46, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Hooray for it being sold in Novac, but how much does it cost?--Jolipinator 17:29, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Price? Well I'm guessing over 10,000 caps. --Felix BrehhUser Avatar talk.png 17:35, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Please 'splain it to me? Without a scope, you can't see targets as far out, right? So wouldn't the perfect *best* sniper rifle have the most powerful scope, and accuracy? Ilove the rifle, don't get me wrong - but what am I missing? Peter_C 18:19, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, it does pretty stupid damage, even against lightly armored foes like legionaries, assuming you have a critical hit. While it's not especially good for long range sniping, it's hell on wheels at short to medium ranges.  Which, to be honest, is what it's designed for.  And boy is it awesome in that niche. Tyrasis 03:34, September 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's critical damage is double it's base damage which shines the most with a sneak attack critical and it has the lowest min spread of all two hand rifles. You won't be able to dispatch entire bases without the silencer, but it's still a sniper. If you find you can't hit anything with it sniping try not turning off true iron sights, they aren't aligned properly and your shots won't hit where they are supposed to. It's strong in medium/close ranges as well. The x2 crit multiplier synergizes with the VATS critical bonus. But with only a 3shot magazine all that reloading time will hamper you if you're fighting a pack of enemies close up. --an0my(talk) 18:59, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

From my own personal testing, the zoom from this weapon is equal to weapons with scopes, like the Sniper rifle or the Bozar. Have fun sniping. Dragofireheart 17:14, September 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * True. --an0my(talk) 19:00, October 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * No, it's not. I just checked the GECK, and Paciencia's FOV when looking down the sights is set to 32. To put that in perspective - the regular Hunting Rifle's is 38, the Sniper Rifle's is 25, and the 10mm SMG's is 70. Default FOV is 75 when not aiming down the sights. So no, Paciencia's zoom level is not as high as the high-powered scopes. 68.110.26.98 11:17, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Raul's New Weapon
Anyone else giving this to him? :D  Pony of the East    22:46, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Heck naw, I'm keeping this baby for myself! Nebenthe 23:45, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Does anyone know if Cliff will stock this weapon at any level? Looks to me like it'd be a great cap sink for a lower-level character. Feed the rage. 00:02, September 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes I've been using this weapon since level 14 and it's so beast at mid level. --an0my(talk) 18:50, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Cliff stocks it, and any GRA weapons and ammo at any level. I've tried and tested it, and it's hilarious when you finally scrounge up the money to buy it. The Cyan Dragon 18:31, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

I suppose you could give it to armored petro chico Raul, but the medicine stick is a much better choice if you got him as a vaquero. Kind of disappointed the Mexican flag weapon isnt affected by Old Vaquero to be honest.

Question
can this be modded like a normal hunting rifle? --109.76.82.85 00:00, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

No, this weapon does not accept any hunting rifle mods. Feed the rage. 02:05, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Dam oh well its still good --Sinray 12:47, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

How do the mis-aligned iron-sights NOT affect accuracy?
The bullet does not fire on the crosshair. This definitely affects accuracy, maybe not greatly but definitely noticeable at long range. I'm going to change the note to reflect this. --an0my(talk) 19:59, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Notes?
We should add a few notes to this weapon, perhaps how much damage it can do with a gun skill of 100 +all the rifle related perks combined. As well as how much damage each bullet can do combined with the former and latter. I'd really like to know myself since I killed a gecko with it, it had 60HP and went down to -281HP with one Hallow Point shot. --Felix Brehh 19:54, 6 May 2012 (UTC)


 * That info is already included in the infobox, the figure next to the damage in the brackets. The reason you got so much damage would be due to a critical hit and the ammo multiplier. There is no point putting all that detail in the page, because that is not really about the weapon, but about general combat and the ammo. User avatar tag.gifUser Avatar talk.png 20:00, 6 May 2012 (UTC)