Forum:Killing Outcast Patrols?

It seems to me that killing Brotherhood Outcast patrols is a grand way of making tons of cash, ammo and badass armor. You don't even have to deal with the robots if you have Robotics Expert, just sneak up on them and deactivate them. There's not even a karma loss.

But, here's the catch: Is it possible to use the benefits of the "Outcast Collector Agent" if you regularly kill outcast patrols? Is it possible to be friendly with the Outcasts and still kick their ass if you see them? Or do they become your enemies if you use this strategy?

Answer, please!!!

AngryNorwegianDude 14:42, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

♠ As far as I know the Outcasts at Fort Independence do not turn hostile for as long as you do not engage Outcast patrols near their base or within visual range. There's a warning though, that comes with bringing Outcast Power Armor to Protector Casdin. It seems that he TAKES ANY OUTCAST Power Armor without giving you anything in return (think of it as though he were 'confiscating' them). So it is advisable to give any and all Outcast Power Armor to a companion or leaving them in a storage area before speaking to Protector Casdin. Whether this is a bug or intentional, I don't know, but I think it is intentional, since a similar scenario occurs in the Republic of Dave. (Wherein any adult resident in the Republic of Dave will take away Old Painless, Dave's unique hunting rifle, even if the key to his safe was given to you!) Aside from that, their laser weaponry CAN be given to Casdin, yes, but do keep in mind that repairing laser rifles/pistols causes you to earn less money when going to him, so if you do go to Casdin, bring him damaged goods. Magnum101 14:48, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The Outcasts adhere to the same gameplay rules as any other faction in F3. Killing random Outcast Patrols will only set you hostile to other Outcasts that are nearby - usually that just means the other members of the Patrol you are attacking. Unless you slaughter his troops near Fort Independence, Casdin will not mind at all (technically speaking, he simply doesn´t know). The loot taken from Outcasts (including both their weapons and armor) is always the same, irregardless whether you killed them, someone else killed them, or the Mighty Alien Dwarf killed them - Casdin will always assume that you have acquired Outcast Power Armor nonviolently. If by mistake he does get hostile to you (e.g. when you attack a patrol too close to Fort Independence, attack him or his guards) you have to wait three days without doing any action that would make him hostile (as said, attacking him or nearby allies) and he´ll be totally friendly again. It´s pretty much the same as killing BoS soldiers to acquire their Holotags to sell them to Jameson. Golan2781 15:38, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

♠ Oh, I'm not saying that Casdin does turn violent when you turn in Outcast armors, just to clarify, just that he seems to take the armors without crediting you for it, meaning you won't get anything via the Outcast Collection Agent freeform quest. On the PC version, he seems to take all Outcast armors the moment you speak to him (as I said, this may or may not be a bug). I've heard from Xbox users though that he will only take Outcast armor if it is equipped by the player. This has nothing to do with the Outcasts becoming hostile, just that the possibility exists that carrying Outcast armor when speaking to Casdin will result in losing them for no apparent reason and no reward. Cheers. :) Magnum101 15:52, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks guys, appreciate the answers. Time to unleash a wave of post apocalyptic-ironic money making! Special thanks to Golan2781; The Mighty Alien Dwarf-line made me laugh my ass off! :D AngryNorwegianDude 19:07, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * No problem. ;) @Magnum101: Casdin will confiscate all Outcast Power Armor (though not Linden´s) in your possession (both equipped and unequipped) every time you trade with him, sarcastically remarking that he´s glad you bring back their armor you find in the Wasteland and aren´t stupid enough to try selling them their own equipment. This is intentional and not a bug. Golan2781 08:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)