Talk:Stanislaus Braun/Archive 1

Betty?
I was just watching Kung Pow Enter the Fist, and I was wondering if the fact that Braun goes by Betty could be an homage of sorts to this movie? In Kung Pow the character Master Pain insists upon being called Betty. Anyone have any input on this?

Respectful Disagreement
I respectfully disagree with this article. While well written it is very subjective and based mainly on the author's perspective of the situation.

It is impossible to determine the Dr.'s real motive from any of the terminal files. Since the original specifications of the vault experiment were never provided one cannot know what Braun's original intentions were. He could of just as easily put the failsafe in place to end the experiment due to unforseen events.

I find it much more likely that the doctor's original intentions were good but he became bored over time with recreation style simulations (after running the ad nauseum for years) and upon witnessing an accident in the ski scenario and found a sense of entertainment he had not had in years. He then started abusing his overseer status and created simulations that would result in horrific results for the dwellers. At some point he either felt remorse or got ultimately bored with even his new entertainment and was thinking about about ending the whole thing before realizing that he could not end his own life due to the failsafe that he could not override. Tranquility Lane might even be an attempt to return balance to his virtual life. I can even cite the terminal logs on this because they are his personal thoughts. On a personal level I just feel that the article reduces the doctor to a one dimensional psychopath while the logs and the fact that he created a life saving technology point to someone who just got bored when other aspects of life (i.e. achievement, stress) was removed.

Regardless, even what I wrote could not go into the article as it is conjecture and nothing else. As a Wiki this article should stick to the facts: 1.The creator of the Geck created this technology as part of vaults 112. 2.He had the failsafes remove. 3. After years of continual virtual vacations he became bored. 4. At some point he started abusing his admin rights to kill his dwellers or as overseer he was pursuing the vaults true purpose. 5. He has thought about ending the whole thing but does not because he cannot end his own life due to facility failsafes.
 * Yeah, yeah. Listen, this is not Wikipedia, this is a fan project. It's primary purpose is to provide an entertaining resource for Fallout knowledge, not a cold, lifeless listing of facts. Shaur M. S. Grizlin 16:18, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

He was also gay. he liked impailing people, he had daddy issues, and he was "at home" in a womans body. i believe he was gay.

It all comes together now! But he might just be a petophile since he could do nasty things in a woman's body. Jstarsupreme 17:09, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Now now, no need to show how ignorant you are on here Jstar. I'd explain why but this is not the place. (and would be quite lengthy) Miumaru 05:18, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

So...
To reply to Shaur above, so we should not include facts? Wikipedia has it a lot better then wikia, just because fanboys of anything are typically ignorant dumbasses where their opinion is above all else does not mean a site about a game should be ruled by those fanboys...

Enter his Office?
How do you enter/see into his office? The door is opened by a terminal, and the terminal requires a key. And I don't see any windows to look inside. How do you get inside without cheats? --74.5.177.164 08:18, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * There's a key within a locked room, near the pods. In regards to the posts above, I more or less agree. But anyone who wants facts knows better than to expect them from a *wikia. Research it yourself and use some commonsense. 66.108.40.193 00:31, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Talking to Braun
If I get my camera angle right in third person view I have the chance to talk to Braun, but when I interact with him it only says "Stanislaus Braun is unconcious." (Done on PS3 after activating failsafe) Can anybody verify if he says anything before the simulator? --Attackedmushroom 15:15, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

When was he born?
Oh wow. He was born in 2009? So he's just a little baby right now? Quick, someone find that baby and kill him before any of this madness happens! --FawkesGamer360 00:36, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

But then the events of fallout 3 would be messed up. And I'm pretty sure we don't want a feral ghoul for a hero. --Jackass2009 22:40, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Terrahawks
Am I the only person that is reminded of the character Goybirl from Gerry Anderson's Terrahawks when they converse with Betty? Not in her appearance obviously but in Betty's ability to switch between the voice of a young girl and that of a mid-european scientist... forgive the potentially obscure reference.

Was Braun Mentioned in any other Fallout Games?
Was Dr Braun mentioned in any other Fallout games? Because the G.E.C.K is in some other Fallouts

Say WHAT?
Why that little.. "You can't do that here." But, oh, BEHOLD!! I'm the MIGHTY MAHTAVATAR and I DO WHATEVER I WANT! ..GODDAMNIT! I used a mod that removes all that censorship nonsense and enables killing of snotnose little punks like BETTY here or princess over there. Hey, it just makes the game more realistic. You can kill kids in the real world too, can't you? Not that I would kill random kids in the real world tho, because that would be plain.. wrong. But anyways, after I delivered a well placed SHOT to her HEAD, I looted her and noticed she has 4 FINGERS!! WHAT in the name of... So, she... he... IT?! was sooo evil that I cut off four of her fingers instead of the default one?? I dont know if my massive array of mods caused this but I doubt it. I cant imagine that a mod would add 3 extra fingers on her corpse... Is this really true that she has 4 fingers on her or is it a GLITCH caused by mods or something..? Mahtavatar 12:00, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Oblivion: shivering isles reference?
might just be me, but anyone think that the way betty insta' kills you when hit is a reference to Shergorath (i dont know if that is proper spelling) in that when you hit him (shergorath) he teleports you into the air and leaves it to you to fall to your death? it might just be the coincidense of them both having godlike powers and not tolerating any shenanigans involving bodily harm done to them... just a thought i got... Veranen 10:27, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Recycling of material from past Bethesda titles does not constitute a cultural reference.--Gothemasticator 16:43, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * If betty had a scottish accent, wore weird clothes and had an army of bad-ass warrior girls and a mysterious snappy-dressing butler, Then i'd think it would be a reference. Other than that, no. Tzaro the Outcast 15:03, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Failsafe
In scientific terms, Wouldn't Braun eventually turn into a skeleton inside the pod? Or, how exactly does it keep him alive? Tzaro the Outcast 16:52, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cryogenics. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 19:14, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Interactions template
This has been added, and some of the information in the Background section will need to be moved across.  phoenix    txt    xp   11:10, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

Hitler
Is it possible that he is a reference to Hitler? He is power mad and deranged, and Hitler's wife's name was Eva Braun. The Emporer 03:47, March 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Godwin's Law is proven once again... Frankly, there is not even the slightest physical or biographical similarity between the two. You might just as easily say his name was inspired by Werner Von Braun, who was actually a scientist. ~ Gardimuer {  ʈalk }  21:38, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * This probably should be dismissed, as most antagonists are mad and deranged. Also Braun seems to be a prominent last name, so the reference isn't very likely. Nukey   talk  21:41, April 14, 2010 (UTC)