Forum:Fallout DLC vs. Oblivion DLC

So i was thinking about it and realized...none of the fallout addons have come close to comparing with The Shivering Isles. Oblivion has a lot of petty DLCs but one that is significantly better that point lookout or old world blues for example. It just seems like the map of The Shivering Isles is about the size of the map of the vanilla Fallout: New Vegas. Agree? Disagree? --Zeroo Ragnarok 14:40, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

I Saw Oblivion on sale for 20 bucks at my walmart and am considering buying it. so i go to the DLC section of Xbox Live. to see what my options are. I See a 1gb. Expansion for 30 dollars. {2400 points] for 30 bucks i should be getting an 4 to 5 gb expansion seeing as thats the average size of full games. That would Literally make Shivering Isles the same price as downloading it from xbox live and more expensive then the game in the store. So what justifies it's incredibly high price? from what i heard on forums Oblivions characters are bland and unrememberable compared to New Vegas. your decisions really dont matter {just like in fallout 3} difficulty {and this is a direct quote} "Difficulty goes from YOU ARE A GOD to THIS RAT IS YOUR GOD" {that cracks me up} and nothing plays with your heart {I wanted to protect Melody in caesars camp. While "The Coyotes" Dermott and Saint James filled me with unspeakable Rage] additionally one person commented Oblivion is soulless and general consensus was I should get Morrowind instead.

99.102.152.181 20:10, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

1.Sheogorath is way funnier than any character in fallout 3 or new vegas. 2.The characters in the shivering isles are all insane in their own way. each is uniquely interesting. 3.I have morrowind and the whole game works on rolls. it doesnt play the same way as oblivion and fallout.--Zeroo Ragnarok 06:42, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

-- try to find the G.O.T.Y. edition it cost me 30 like 3 years ago gamestop or the internet would be a good place to look --Gogoloco 20:51, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Have to agree. I think the only Fallout 3/NV DLC so far which has came close to any of Oblivon's is Point Lookout. It opened up a whole new area and provided me with at least 25 hours more stuff to do. All of the New Vegas DLC so far has kinda been building up to 'Lonesome Road' though, so maybe this is going to be brilliant afterall.

MattFlan

Lonesome Road will be interesting but i dont think it will change my mind--Zeroo Ragnarok 06:42, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

I disagree, the Shivering Isles were no more than half the size of the FO:NV main map. Besides, New Vegas isn't even a main game. There's a good chance it will stay a stand-alone - it isn't Fallout 4, afterall. I did love Shivering Isles, but Dead Money has well written companions, and a zombie horror setting with albeit, cliche monsters. Honest Hearts has a well designed setting itself (but probably it's the least interesting of all). Old World Blues has funny and interesting characters. And unless it's just a long stretch of road, Lonesome Road will be just as good, if not better. They all have stories that strongly relate to each other or the main story. They weren't there just to keep you playing the game.

I noticed in Oblivion the add-ons were - before you installed them - almost impossible to find (i.e. where they were to be accessed, when installed). I figured where Wizard's Tower (Frostcrag Spire) would be, before I even knew about it, but that was only because the mostly desolate area had a huge rock face on one side, and an enormous cliff face on the other (the fact there was a long path with nothing also helped). It was located no where near the edge of the map, so it couldn't have been that they wanted to do nothing there. Aside from that, they seemed to be in pretty random places. With New Vegas, they have all these pointless places, that are obviously something more. --Tag! 22:26, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Well, look at it this way then. The map of oblivion was much larger than that of fallout 3 and new vegas and it was an older game (morrowind is even bigger.) You can burn through any of the fallout dlcs faster than you could on TSI even if you were on easy. It was a beautiful landscape with interesting characters. True, the companions in oblivion were nothing more than your fan club but (most of) the characters had depth to them. There were very few generic npcs (no unnamed citizens)It had the beauty of honest hearts, the comedy of old world blues and the frustration of dead money.You also have to think of replay value. TSI gives you reasons to come back and has a massive ammount of sidequests to keep you busy. I always managed to clean out Big MT, Zion, And Point Lookout in one go (those are the 3 open map dlcs)--Zeroo Ragnarok 06:42, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

And I still think the shivering isles map compares to the size of the new vegas one. My biggest complaint about new vegas is that it's tiny--Zeroo Ragnarok 06:46, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, New Vegas should have been at least 25% bigger, with perhaps 25% more locations. When your playing the game for the first time, the map seems fairly decent, especially when your walking towards New Vegas from Trading Post 188 (where you meet Veronica). But after you've been to most of the locations, the map seems rather small, very much like in RL when you've lived in a place for a few years.

Of all the DLCs/add-ons (not including Morrowind's since I was probably too young to play it), the Shivering Isles was definitely the best one overall. You became Sheogorath at the end, and got to fight Jyggalag. Plus there was two sides to the main area - Mania and Dementia. The latter of which, Point Lookout seems to take some inspiration from. You could also side with either the super sexy Golden Saints or the equally sexy Dark Seducers. And let's not forget the spells! I really hope Skyrim has an awesome add-on like that! --Tag! 09:37, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

I definitely recommend getting the PC version of Oblivion GOTY rather than buying the bare game and waiting for sales on the DLC. Shivering Isles was a lot of fun but was partly ruined by the massive number of bugs in it. I only started Dead Money two days ago and I am already getting tired of Dog/God saying '...wear it around my neck.' Pretty much the first non-hostile Smutie NPC that I grown to hate. GRPeng 18:55, September 1, 2011 (UTC)