Talk:Comprehension

can you get more than one of this perk ?Conradesc 18:58, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

no ZirePhoenix 04:13, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

[In fallout 3] if taken EARLY this perk is worth it, there are a lot of skill books lieing around (the prima guide has locations of all of them) and doubling your returns on them are always useful since the player is capped at 20th level. -Accountless avenger

With this perk, if manage your skill points properly you can end up with every skill at 100...Fiddlesoup 05:06, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

"There are 323 skill books in Fallout 3, thus the potential skill points gain from this perk is 646."

Should be 323 skill points gained with perk.

646 is total for all books with the perk, of which half you get without perk anyway. 217.154.240.195 16:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC) trollson


 * I think it is worded incorrectly. You normally get 323 skills points from all the books, so the perk would give you an additional 323 skill points. The additional points is what it is referring to. --MadDawg2552 16:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Shouldn't the article state 323 books, not 324? According to the other articles, there's 25 of each except Lying, Confessional Style (24), and Tales of a Junktown Jerky Vendor (23). Also, there's 1 copy of Paradise Lost (which is basically another Lying). That makes a total of 12x25 + 23 = 323. If someone else can confirm and if necessary, change the article, that'd be great.

So with this perk, do you only have to around 40 in each skill?

But their iss the Big Book of Science and US 30 Handy Flamethrower recipe glitches.

I also almost have all 100 stats on my lvl 27 with big guns at 40 and I only got 8 skill bobbles and 2 SPECIAL bobbles. Using comprehension thought. Gameboy627 22:22, 12 August 2009 (UTC)Gameboy627


 * During the Tenpenny Quest, you can let the ghouls in forcefully, and get another Speech, and Barter book.GodsHand 21:43, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Broken Steel
Isn't it pretty easy to max out all skills without this perk if you have Broken Steel installed?

Theoretically, yes, if you go out of your way to get all of the quest Perks and max out your levels, conscientiously hunt Bobbleheads and take Almost Perfect, but it's so much faster with the extra points from books.

Add-on Content?
I have all the add-ons, but I never found any skill books. What is the main page talking about books, or 10 more levels to gain skill points?GodsHand 21:42, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

why does someone keep editing the FO:NV section to say this gives less points than educated?

educated taken at level 4 equals 26 level ups with the perk. 26x2 = 52.

comprehension used on all skill books. 4 for each of 13 skills, x1 point per book = 52.

seriously, does someone fail at math or what?
 * There are only x3 explosives books, not 4. Mictlantecuhtli 22:34, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

then why are there 4 explosive book locations listed on the books page? /facepalm.

-actually after going back and checking the books location page to make sure i wasnt delusional, apparently people have found a total of 5 deans and 6 grognaks. that means this perk actually gives more skill points than educated.

apparently you need to get out there and explore more.


 * I checked in the GECK - there's 4 of each skill book in Fallout: New Vegas, with the exception of U.S. Army: 30 Handy Flamethrower Recipes which there is none of, for obvious reasons (though it's used one time, in a form list called "everything"). They're contained in various unused loot lists as well, but with those lists being unused, they won't show up in random loot. -- 00:50, October 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * So in other words there are 52 points from each perk, no more no less. I will go revert recent edits to comprehension/educated. Mictlantecuhtli 15:32, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

Regarding general character development

 * Regarding general character development and the perk's effectiveness, it might be a good idea to plan ahead and keep track of any skillbook that has been used when distributing skillpoints during level-up. An example: a player with base Charisma at 5 (or even 4 and a T-51b Power Helmet wants to be able to get a Speech skill of 100 when needed without investing too much valuable skillpoints during level-ups. With Comprehension, there will be 16 skill points from 4 available speech skill books. 10 skill points can be gained by wearing Naughty nightwear, 30 additional skill points can be temporarily gained by using Party Time Mentats (through a charisma bonus of +5) and - at the same time - reading Meeting People (with 20 skill points instead of 10 through Comprehension). As a result, a player with base Charisma of 5 will only have to invest points in the Speech skill up to 44 to be able to pass any given Speech check. 16 additional skill points come from reading Lying, Congressional Style in combination with Comprehension, 10 skill points are being rewarded through clothing and 30 additional temporary skill points will be gained from magazines and chems.
 * Exactly my thoughs, that's why I usually pick Comprehension over Educated, there's a lot of temporary skill boost mags on the game, there's no need to put all skills at 100%, sometimes 65% is enough. Best of all, with this strategy you can spend a lot of points earlier on your primary critical skills, like Guns, Energy Weapons, Explosives, Melee and Unarmed. I use this strategy with lockpick when playing with a high perceptive build, you spent at most 45 points on it, the rest came from SPECIAL bonuses, clothes, glasses and mags. With Rentention the mags are almost a cheat, since your magazines lasts A LOT more. LOL Brfritos 20:08, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Regardless of the +/- 1 skill point debates, the +20 with skill magazines (instead of +10) makes a big difference during the early-middle game skill checks. Plus, you really only need to max non-essential skills to 80 with this perk as skill mags are fairly easy to obtain at higher levels. Medeasin 00:57, June 30, 2011 (UTC)