Talk:Hayes

In my game (I'm a goody goody) I realized I was level 16 and everybody was still complaining about the Powder Gangers without giving me a quest to clean out the prison. So I decided to take the law into my own hands and go clean it out of my own volition. When I was done I spiraled out from the prison to see what else was out there and, after killing a bunch of "wild dogs" I noticed Hayes heading for the Powder Ganger Northern Camp. He seemed intent on walking through every landmine they'd set out. With some effort and a little reloading of saves, I was able to keep him from getting killed. Speaking to him results in the same song and dance as I got from him outside of Primm. If he's killed you can loot him and find "Military Orders" on the corpse, but it's just talking about establishing the outpost outside of Primm where you find him. He will use stimpacks (and super stims) if some are reverse pickpocketed onto him, but he'll only use them during combat. I was able to follow him from the Northern Powder Ganger Camp through Hidden Valley (if the gate to Hidden Valley is open, he's probably been through there), through Scorpion Gulch. (THAT was fun. No really...) We came out the other side of the tight pass that lead out the other side of Scorpion Gulch and I could see the Helios facility in the distance, but he started to bounce off the very steep hillside to the right of where we came out. Eventually, he managed to pop up into an area I couldn't get to and had to go around to try and get at where he was, so I lost sight of him for a bit and when I got to where he'd been he was nowhere in sight. (Even with Ed-E's sensor perk working for me.) I've noticed on other forums people complaining that Hayes will vanish at random points, I don't know what sets this off, whether it was my killing of the I Fought the Law NPCs or something else, but I guess this gives us an idea about where he's going. - TandyBomb 10/22/2010


 * I finished the My Kind Of Town quest with Meyers as Sheriff, but I'd also successfully requested NCR troops to help Primm. I went into Hayes' tent to discuss it with him - had no dialogue options (it seem it is either Meyers OR NCR for Primm, not both) and then Hayes and a couple of NCR troopers started wandering off toward the north. I waited about 12 hours and then used the player.moveto command (PC), and found them at Camp Forlorn Hope. I guess they must redeploy there after they're no longer required at Primm. Others should confirm this and add it to the Hayes/My Kind of Town pages if it turns out to be a definite outcome. ComaDivine 05:23, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

I did same thing too, got Meyers to become the Law, and still got the OK for NCR to take over. But once you tell Meyers he got a pardon, the other two NCR soilders(named NPCs) just start to head off North. Megee gets killed and a pop-up comes up to tell you he died, as for Hayes I suspect he would die too, but I have not tried to find out, and have no idea if a message will tell you he died.GodsHand 18:47, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

There is a pop up when Hayes dies, at least if he dies when you're standing near him. I forgot to mention that. TandyBomb 12:36 PM Pacific, October 28, 2010

Name and reference
Not that this is particularly important, but does anyone think his name is a reference to the character of the same name in Robotech?