User talk:Jdw17921

Getting the Mysterious Stranger's .44 Magnum
'''This part of my talk page is devoted to a worthy project: obtaining that gun on the xbox 360 and ps3 versions of the game! Please feel free to experiment, then share your tips here. The goal is to create a simple guide to getting the gun.''' Jdw 16:35, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I've heard, with luck and some explosives of any form, be it grenades or a fat man, you can knock out the Mysterious Stranger, pick pocket him, and take his gun. Any truth to this? It'd be pretty fun for me, because I'm playing on the Xbox version. Lawlimnator 16:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

actually you need quite a lot of bottlecap mines,as they are the strongest type,and plant them around whoever you want the mysterious strangers to kill,with luck,the mysterious stranger will finally die and you loot his corpse for his items Werewolfhell 17:35, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Just wondering is there anyway to get this gun on the Xbox 360 version without killing the mysterious stranger? and if not, has anyone even killed him before?--Deathclaw Killer 00:59, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


 * raises hand*


 * Who's hand is that above? I don't think the killing trick works, at least not on the 360. I've been trying the following: put on your ghoul mask and litter the ground near a feral ghoul with mines. Then go into VATS and shoot one .32 pistol shot at him. When the stranger appears, he walks all over the mines without setting them off. I bet it's because the stranger's not hostile to you - try dropping a few bottlecap mines near a feral ghoul when you're wearing the ghoul mask - the ghoul doesn't trigger the mines, even if you shoot him and he becomes hostile. So the next thing to try is to throw a grenade in VATS so there'll be an explosion waiting for the stranger when he appears. So far, I haven't been able to kill him that way either. The problem is the screen goes white so I can't even tell if he appears for a VATS grenade (as opposed to a VATS small weapon, etc). Plus, it seems like he only appears after your VATS shots are finished, so the explosion (as well as the target) would be gone by the time he appears anyway. Jdw 04:06, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, maybe it could work if you use stealthboys to leave mines near a hostile npc that isn't walking around, then move away and shoot from VATS. He should then move and set off the mines. Jdw 15:36, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

NEW STRATEGY!

Ok,first get a weapon with a large spread,the terrible shotgun works wonders in this,and then do the plant mines trick and go far away from your target,get them to low health,and hope that one of your first shots is still in orbit and pings the mines,setting them off and thus killing anyone nearby,except you,you can now go over to the mysterious strangers corpse and get some loot

NOTE: his items have no icon at all,the only icon is that of an undiscovered map marker

Hope this helps you!you cheapskate cheaters

P.S:just joking about the cheapskate bit. Werewolfhell 12:25, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * So - you're saying you've actually done this on the 360? Jdw 16:33, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

yes,and as of yesterday,ive done it on all 3 platforms,but be warned,you need ALOT of bottlecap mines,so its best to get all 3 schematics,and use those bottlecaps youve got,as the gear the mysterious strangers has is worth the amount of bottlecaps you lose Werewolfhell 10:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've got 16 bc mines right now, and I've been use them all. How many do you use? Jdw 15:48, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh and 60-80,i think,or if you really wan to test your luck go with 100-200,also i had 100 explosives skill so you might need to make yours maximum when your done Werewolfhell 16:14, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Why would you want to kill the mysterious stranger? For a gun that takes all of the fun out of the game? Then you lose his help in the future. Dumb idea,if you ask me. ~The Anonymous User
 * I suppose because it's hilarious to shoot a Behemoth and have it just - die. Hehehe :) I'm going to try for it some day, I doubt it though, I've never been able to make room for the perk, my character builds are too stringent. [[Image:Ash_Nuke.jpg]] AshRandom (Talk) 00:40, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Honestly, the motivation for me is curiosity. I've blown him up with the MIRV and about 25 mines (16 of which were bottlecap mines) and only saw a small nick in his health meter. I mean, what's he been putting in his Cheerios? Besides - combat's pretty easy anyway for a fully leveled character. Jdw 01:27, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I think his health is beetween 10000-10600,mainly because i cant remember what his stats were,anyway,perhaps i just got lucky(depsite now having a luck level of 2) but anyway,its worth stocking up on 100+ bottlecaps and an experimental mirv(or perhaps a normal fatman,if your skill is high)

ALSO:i had demoliton expert,bloddy mess and 100 explosives when i used 100 mines,so there you go,free tips form the expert of gaming Werewolfhell 16:35, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


 * ok, so I've knocked him out a few times using the following strategy on the 360:
 * Go see Col. Autumn - youtube vid at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad8HUcxKUSs - and pickpocket all his weapons.
 * Plant a semicircle of mines around him, just far enough away so that he doesn't set them off (I had 90 bottlecap mines, and about 20 each of frag and plasma mines).
 * Shoot him once with a weak pistol from a safe distance and immediately make a new save.
 * When you start at that save, he will turn and start running toward you. Just as he takes his first step, he should set off the mines. Before they go off, go into VATS and shoot him again with your weak pistol.
 * Now the mysterious stranger may or may not show up. If he does, he'll have an explosion waiting for him. If not, reload that save and try again. The mines should be enough to knock him out (I had 81 explosives and bloody mess).
 * Problem: so far, every time I knock him out, his body can't be found. It may be in a spot where I can't reach it, like on top of the water purifier, so right now I'm looking for a better place to try this. Another good tactic is, instead of using Autumn, put on the Ghoul Mask and set the mines near a feral ghoul. There are good enclosed rooms in the lower levels of the Metro Central station. You'll have to use a grenade or something to make the mines go off, though. Jdw 16:35, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

have you tried "overdriving" him? You see,when you kill someone in vats,you might see a health bar appear with a small bit of health(only with essential characters),if this health goes to zero while their still being target and their health is showing,if the meter goes to zero they Die and thus,you can loot them,ive done this with doctor preston,harkness and mysterious stranger,however kill harkness broke the game and the replicated man could not be finished

NOTE:on some npcs,their overdive health is doubled ,this doesnt happen to the mysterious stranger,but so far ive seen it happen to harkness Werewolfhell 16:04, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you ever been able to loot the stranger after knocking him out? It seems like an overdrive sounds more difficult than a knockout. If you don't remember looting him after a knockout, do you think you might go a little more detail about the circumstances where you managed an overdrive? Jdw 23:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

when you knock him out,you must run up to him very fast and pick pocket him,as he can disappear very quickly,if your fast enough youll probably see "44.magnum" in his inventory,so pickpocket it,strangely enough,i didnt lose karma for pickpocketing his magnum,but i dont care,i have access to it,so those behemoths are gonna die,also,to overdive,you must knock an npc out in vats,and while your still in vats,make sure he/she recieves enough damage to make they're health go to exactly 0,if it goes -1 they will regenarate to full health and be knocked out,also,i encounterred a maor glithc while trying to overdrive docotor preston,a bullet from my scoped 44. hit james hargrave in the head and suprisingly rendered him unconscious,and displayed the "james hargrave left leg crippled",oddly,once he got back up,his leg remained crippled,so i spent a few minutes crippling all his limbs Werewolfhell 14:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I knocked him out in a room in the Dunwich building that was pretty much empty - just me, a desk, and a feral ghoul. I never saw his body. I had given up on the mine knockout trick, but now that you say this, I might give it another try. I'm going to be gone for a week but when I get back I'll give it another shot. BTW that overdrive thing sounds incredibly difficult! Jdw 01:31, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Depends on how good you are,if you havent been playing for long itll be hard,if you have ha donly 1 playthrough it'd be not hard but not easy and if your good it wont take much practise,however it doesnt change if you think you have "teh l33t skillz" Werewolfhell 16:26, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Can any one capture this on video and post a link? I want to try it, but then again, I don't want to go on a wild goose chase either --Esscex 00:11, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

On Talk:Mysterious Stranger's .44 Magnum:
 * He's completely invisible outside of V.A.T.S. I put godmode on, equipped the slowest, least damaging weapon I could find, and found a Deathclaw. I loaded up V.A.T.S, loaded it to fire about 50 shots and then toggled the free cam. I moved the camera back into a corner where he could only spawn in front, and waited for him to show up. Every time he did, I could clearly see the gunshots firing from nowhere, and when I opened the console, he was unselectable. I resurrected the Deathclaw and tried a few more times. Each time the gunshots were fired from a nonexistant source. He wasn't there at all. D:
 * well, that explains why I can't find the body! Jdw 03:36, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to loot the aforementioned invisible corpse...because if u can then youve found a way to get the gear(i think)but i dont know(this topic has been an interest of mine for a while glad to see theres an open discusion about it =D) LuciusZelgius 10:16, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I would try if if I ever found a body. One problem is that (at least for "normal" NPCs) you can't loot or pickpocket someone who is unconscious. You can see what I mean if you try it with the patient at the rivet city clinic, or knock out an essential character like your dad. And I've never killed the stranger - only knocked him out. Jdw 15:15, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

I've learned that if click "talk" in sneak mode exactly when they wake up youll be pickpoketing them...but i doubt it will help because he's probably equpped with his pistol...and you cant find the body...so it appears as though..were at a roadblock in our cause...ill try a couple more tactics on getting the gun myself but theyll probably be unsucsessful either way ill report back if i make any progress.LuciusZelgius 06:16, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

No luck at all...i think i knocked him outbut i dont think the body/person was present most likely cuz hes invisible...whyd the have to make it so hard to get...anyone got any other ideas?LuciusZelgius 09:28, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Overdriving maybe?but when i tried it in the pitt it froze for 2 seconds,then i found out that near everone was floating in a riverWerewolfhell 15:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

other
That explains a lot,also,i was going to make a video tutorial,but unfortunately my glitch seems to not work after downloading that godforsaken patch!So youll have to use all the tips here to get the gun,but in the meantime,lets work on finding some form of dupe glitch?ive found one but the process takes WAY TOO DAMN LONG!Werewolfhell 19:10, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * So, what's a dupe glitch? Considering you were willing to make 100 bottlecap mines, what's your long process? Maybe it can be improved... Jdw 23:20, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

you dont know what a dupe glitch is?it should be obvious,anyway

1.Get an item that you and a shop keeper have one of,then sell the item you have,then buy back the item with the lowest value

2.the item should have glitcched back to 100% CND,so sell it back the repeat for caps if thats what you want

3.now heres the dupe bit,sell your full CND item back and buy it back,and repeat untill a cloned one appears,it will be in bad CND probably,so wait a few days,look back and you should see two of them items at diffrent CND's,buy back the cheapest item,and it should still be in the inventory of the trader,as well as yours,now buy the item thats cheapest as explained and repeat the steps,using this i got 8 Full CND laser pistols from fuck 'n' sharpals Werewolfhell 16:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Strange brahmin
You said this on the brahmin talk page: ''I've got a save in which Hoff's pack Brahmin is running down the road. I think it's left Doc Hoff behind at Temple of the Union. It's not hostile, it just keeps going. Anyone know what's going on? Jdw 04:23, 15 January 2009 (UTC)''

Well it could be that Hoff got killed but his Brahmin didn't. I once saw a trader get killed and I killed the supermutants attacking Crow but crow died so I took his pack brahmin key and took all the stuff from his still live Brahmin. after that it just walked around Kelloth 02:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

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Lonesome road revert
And you removed a considerable amount of information and referances, particularly pertaining to the difficulty of the release. P.S. don't get sarcastic, it doesn't go down well here. User Avatar talk.png 17:38, August 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Agree with Ghost, history of an add-on must be keep before its release, and after can be put in a release section. Itachou [~talk~] 17:48, August 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Very well, I will just add the reference, which at any rate should have been left alone. And I see where you're both coming from. It would have been nice to see that reason in the revert summary. Jdw 17:53, August 25, 2011 (UTC)