Talk:Gracie

Human?
Is it too much to assume that she is as much a human as the rest of the NCR troopers and the injured troopers?--Ant2242 (talk) 10:47, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Ghouls are known to be NCR troopers - this is an in-game knowledge. It is far-fetched, but it is also unconfirmed that she is a human - 'Unknown' is at least a middle-ground, because we are neither stating that she is a human, nor are we stating that she is not. GarouxBloodline 17:17, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Very true, I however do not remember any ghoul troopers. Veteran Rangers yes but not troopers (Kyle Edwards doesn't count).--17:26, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * You are right - Kyle by himself would be very dubious (although he is still a trooper), since it is never revealed if he actually made it back to a NCR encampment and was accepted. I am basing this mostly around the Rangers, as if they would allow ghouls in the Mojave to join the NCR's elite forces, then I do not see why this would not extend to the regular soldiers, as well. GarouxBloodline 17:45, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The trouble here is that we never see a ghoul serving in the military's regular forces, only among the Rangers. Given that Kyle Edwards is afraid he'll get shot also hints at the fact they aren't really serving - at least not in the Mojave. That said, we need to be careful around post-mortem letters, for the simple reason that they haven't been sent out and thus the fate of the soldiers is ambiguous. Tagaziel (talk) 11:31, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * That is the reason for the ambiguity seen - we are not making a strong stance in either direction, by saying that their races are 'unknown'. Also, just as a personal note, I do not agree that ghouls are inherently shot on sight, especially since peaceful ghouls are a rather strong presence in California. Dialogue with Kyle suggests that the Courier has faith, and if ghouls really are so discriminated against, Kyle would have known better than to even make an attempt - the only real problem, is that Kyle saw himself as a monster, and was afraid of turning feral. GarouxBloodline 12:48, 25 August 2015 (UTC)