Talk:Cazador/Archive 1

Possibly the worst placement of mobs i have ever seen in a game, 2 mins north of Goodspring, going to the tribal camp, 3 of these devil bugs come @ you. One full grown @ lvl 20 and 2 younger ones @ lvl 18. 4 hours into the game, you have no chance in hell to kill them and set me back 20 mins.... WHY PLACE THEM SOO CLOSE TO THE STARTING TOWN??98.210.120.221 05:58, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

There were signs that warned you not to venture in that direction. That should have been enough reason to save.

Anon2

Assholes...
the subject line says it all75.169.109.93 07:21, October 20, 2010 (UTC)Anon

These bugs have caused so much damn grief, I assumed Bethesda put these guys in as a joke, enemies that can move faster than VATS, and kill you while you're in VATS without any trouble, not to mention the fact that they spawn in huge groups, and are 90% combat effective after you take out the wings, seriously, fuck these wasps.

PROTIP: Aim for the wings, and NEVER let them get close.

OP here, now lvl 13, my followers and I are getting HAMMERED by death swarms of Deathclaws and the all too common Cazadors... My Veronica and ED-E are MASSACERED!!!! Just west of The Thorn, I go to a dot in the hills indicating a location, i see 4-5 red dots, and low and behold- CAZADORNUUUUZZZZZ!!!!! It was all over in under a min, dont try to out run them, you'll only die tired haha98.210.120.221 00:16, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, these bugs are NASTY! They definitely move faster than VATS at close range, your best bet is to snipe these burgers before they get too close. I've managed to happily murder groups of three with Boone and ED-E, but there's this large group near radio station Foxtrot that kill me every time if I try to get there directly... so I went to Jacobstown instead. Mention of Cazadors is definitely going in my review, going out tomorrow. - Jay of Gamerfill.

Oh, how much joy I feel every time I see one squirm on the ground after shooting it's wings. Like said before, if you can cut off even one wing, they'll be slow enough to be shot down running. I just met my first one, and when I had him down I was glad that was over with, just to find out that there's like 7 million of them every few steps I take. They're like pokemon! 85.144.249.144 18:52, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

First ran into these little bastards yesterday at level 4. Found I could actually outrun the Young Cazadors (light armour but no related perks or anything). Tried to lead them through a bunch of geckos but the little gitlizards just wanted to tear me limb from limb. Ended up blundering into an NCR outpost which was promptly slaughtered! Amused. Reload. Monkoii 13:05, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

Possible Bug?
Sorry for the bad pun, but when I got killed by one (no surprise), when the loading screen came up, my save got corrupted and wouldnt load, and it didn't happen any other time, so what gives? That's about 10 hours lost right there. Seriously, they need to be nerfed or removed completely. 75.161.193.51 17:47, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

And that's why you save frequently and rotate your saves in any Bethesda game. 108.18.112.69 21:24, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

meh
They're not really that tough for their level... I mean just think about nightstalkers golden geckos centaurs etc... it's really just an issue of too many people not heading the warnings of the people in the starting town to "don't go north"  if you encounter them too early they are like giant rad scorpions that you can't run from and without good enough gear you won't stand a chance... however you'd prolly have lost to a pack of nightstalkers too

Lol Golden Geckos have such low defence and health Night stalkers are the same. But its balanced because thier slow where as cazadors have a huge speed advantage

WTF?
Wow, just ran into 2, 2!!, of these. Killed me in 1 hit (level 14, good armor, etc.) Right before I was killed, I discovered about 3-4 new areas which took a WHILE to walk to. Wow. No save of course because I hadn't entered any buildings. Fuck these wasps. This is rediculous!

--DJ Idol 09:46, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and what a surprise. I start from the auto-save. Head in a completely different direction. Here comes another one. Kills Cass. Jesus christ. I learned the grenade launcher kills them in a few shots though.

make ed-e your party member, then never get "surprised" by combat again (you can then always at least hit f5 before it begins)
Namad 06:26, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Tips for killing cazadors:
Those muties aint very though, but they are EXTREMELY fast and they do a whole lot of damage very quickly. Even a experienced courier shouldn't attack more than 2-3 at a time. ED-E provides a good distraction if they argo him, since they will have harder time hitting him. Against cazadors its best to use automatic weapons such as SMSs or Assault Rifles (since they are really fast). 12.7mm SMG is guaranteed to devastate almost any cazador swarm. Its best to snipe-off the big one with a .50 cal and take the others with a SMG when/if they approach you.
 * 10 Agility and Travel Light are great for avoiding their attacks in real time. Dodge the sting, bring up Vats and fire 2-3 rounds into their head/wings at point blank range. You'll not see any type of significant damage attacking them from distance with starter weapons (unless it's a sneak attack critical). Mictlantecuhtli 14:52, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

SHOOOOOOOOOOOOT THEIR WINGS ULL CRIPPLE THEM AND THEY ARE SO SLOW

Saw the first post on this page and knew the answer straight away. These things seriously wound me up when I was out exploring towards vault 22. Boone and ED-E were with me, but weren't particularly useful because the things are so fast and for the same reason, I couldnt hit them effectively in or out of VATS. The answer is, as has been pointed out, the flamer. Just cooks them really fast. (86.185.214.25 01:48, October 29, 2010 (UTC))

Use hollow point rounds, Cazadores have 0 DT. TJbrena 16:12, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Also, the Grenade Launcher (that's the pump-action one) will frenzy them easily, I killed 5 of them with this tactic. No wait, only 2, the survivors were weak and the rest had killed each other. TJbrena 16:16, November 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Meltdown perk lays waste to these morons. Blow one up with the Q-35 (sneak attack if possible) and you either kill or cripple the pack since they love to fly inches away from each other. --JPro 12:24, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

Why are they OP and then spawned in swarms?
I was trying to get to one of the Ranger Outposts in the northwest and low and behold whats waiting for me? I sh!t you all not, there were eight of those assholes just waiting for me. I sold most of my good bug killing gear to get an assult carbine [which is a fantastic investment to make btw] and I ran out of the 5mm rounds like that. In the end I just ran into a shack to hide form them. They are the single biggest wtf in the entire game next to the OP death claws we now have. Are they put in as a way to deter you from going into areas where there is hig level risk or is it just to cause you to fire copius amounts of ammo at them and not hit a damn thing. Single worst creature to run into ever! [On a complete and diffrent note, does anyone else find then service rifle lacking?] --Ih8tecazadors 04:51, October 25, 2010 (UTC) Ih8tecazadors

I dont like them, but they are very easy to kill if ur smart. shoot the wings and ground em, then take out a shotgun and hit em before the next one is close enough to attack, repeat on others. Rex (Fallout: New Vegas) is also a GREAT companions to have for armored enemies, he kills everything really fast, unless its a big group, then you just need to help him. Veronica Santangelo is also good when given power armor. im level 22 right now and have killed 2 mother deathclaws, the legendary deathclaw, and tomorrow i plan on hunting down the legendary cazador, night stalker, and fire gecko, all with veronica and rex. --Drldrl 05:13, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * what is a legendary enemy? i've never seen one called "legendary" Namad 00:28, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Legendary deathclaw, Legendary cazador, Legendary Fire Gecko, Legendary night stalker. All unique enemies, with extra HP, etc. The Deathclaw... I shall see it in my nightmares :-@ Munin088 01:41, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yea...the legendary deathclaw was a bitch...hit him a bunch of times with the anti material while veronica and rex attacked...after that i pulled out the alien blaster and put a full clip into him till he died... --Drldrl 00:50, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

There hard but they can be killed but ......
Ran in to these just north of goodsprings and god ..... yea they are tough as a deathclaw and faster and the poison makes them a tough foe... So jump on a rock that i cant be reached by them and start my battle like this and only shoot at their wings to drop them. And if im fighting on ground combat, i just back up and shoot the wings with a sniper rifle does mass damage to these little buggers.

Swarms of bugs, dead. Flamethrower, FTW.
I had a headache with swarms of cazdors. Boone kept sniping these assholes before I was prepared. I found that I had much better luck by letting them swarm Boone and then running backwards by spamming the flamer. It does a good amount of damage and kept me alive. Boone would die from time to time, but I saved every time I saw a swarm. I took down 4 cazadors and 2 mini ones in one fell swoop with this tactic. Interested in any feedback.

As mentioned above the best way to kill these bastards is with fire, use an incinerator to take out swarms (sneak up and lob fire like its a viet cong village). If you're lucky you'll kill most of the swarm and you can run off and pick em off with a high powered rifle. Boone does ok in fighting them thanks in part to his sniper, but his slow rate of fire makes him easily susceptible to swarms. If you are swarmed, just run (if you're in casual mode) your followers will go unconscious and should meet up with you at your next fast travel. It should also be noted that any explosives are virtually useless against the bugs as they hover to high to get any decent damage and move so damn fast.


 * I usually just kill them with pistols, with high perception you can see them long before they see you and lure them out a few at a time instead of fighting all of them. Mictlantecuhtli 10:23, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Boone + High "Gun" Stat
When I first played and met up with a swarm of 4 Young Cazadors I was massacred, but they're not so bad now. Taking Boone with me pretty much guarantees at least 1 in a swarm of 3 dies before they're within striking distance. I also pumped up my gun stat, and once it was >50 I could easily take them out with the 10mm pistol or Varmint Rifle. I'd take 1 or 2 long-range potshots, and save VATS for when they would target me (not Boone). The key is to make sure you maximize the distance between yourself and them when you enter combat so Boone can lay waste to 1 or 2 of them.