Talk:Firelance/Archive 1

Firelance ammo and difficult extraction.Luck set at 10 Level 2
Anchorage War memorial.A lot of ammo can fall into the bottom the Potomac river and be very difficult to find. Drowing is all too easy!...... Minefield.Ammo can fall over the cliff into minefild and be very hard to find even with Dogmeat...... WKML Highest rate of Firelance appearance encountered here so far at the WKML broadcast station. Two appearances on first visit. However, due to the height of the three towers the Firelance event is forced to occur at a high altitude and the scattering effect of the ammo may spread the ammo over as much as 6 acres.Can by very diffucilt to find all 24 cells in the rocks even with dogmeat.The cells may overlap at least two Raiders and/or viscous dog territory. Cells can fall well past the Drainage Grate to Sealed Cistern containing the Bobblehead Explosives.... SUPER DUPER MART...Possibly one of the harder events to duplicate on the XBox360; It took me over 100 attempts before the Firelance showed up(however my experience on the PS3 has been better. Having encountered the Mart less than 100 times and finding the firelance twice). Leaving vault 101 travel the road though Springvale and head for the Super Duper Mart, arriving 100 seconds after leaving the vault. Entering the Mart from the Springvale Road end the Firelance event will appear 10 paces before the Stop sign on the right  and the ammo and FL will drop into the car park.(if you want to save for this event, save the game at least 40 paces before the stop sign or any randon event will trigger and you will have to go back to the vault and start again.) You will need the  10mm Pistol and ammo from vault 101 as you will encounter 2 raiders, the female  will most likely find the FL before you do and you will have to kill her to get it but not before she gets a hit in on you.If you don`t pick it up quick enough her mate will get it and you will be a become a pile of burning ash. You may find some ammo hangs up in the air or some may fall short into the shallow Potomac and you will need dogmeat to find it.ThousandHoursFalloutThreeUK 07:02, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Info
June 25, 2009 12:40 p.m. Fallout time: I'm Level 5 and I am at the Minefield. I made my way up the slope to the right of the water tower, disarming the mines as I went. When I disarmed all the mines I saved the game. It took about 20 reloads but eventually a trail of smoke followed by a green flash of light appeared in the sky and alien ammo fell everywhere. The first time I did this I was at a level high enough that there were two yao guai nearby, the ammo spread out all over and i could not find the Firelance so I used Dogmeat. The second time at level 5 there were two viscous dogs nearby, and the ammo was more concentrated and the Firelance was along the path to the right of the water tower.216.196.160.129 04:06, 26 June 2009 (UTC)Gamertag: Field Medic XBOX 360+++++TRIAL 2: The Earliest you can see the Firelance event is LEVEL 2 at 48 watch seconds after leaving Vault 101. Leave Vault 101 at 08.00am Vault time and run to the Dutch Barn at the rear and above  the Vault.This takes 48 seconds and you will arrive at  08.45am  Vault time. Save at 17 paces before reaching the barn.The Firelance entry and event can occur at between visit 1 and visit 30 and can occur at 8.45am Vaultime.Look up and see a cloud of smoke, the cells and Firelance raining down to the sound of falling metal.Some ammo may fall inside the barn and the Firelance may be almost impossible to spot on the rough terrain and you would need to go and get dogmeat to be able to find it. The Firleance may get caught up on the roof of the barn in which case shoot it down, or it may fall into the barn and get wedged between the beams on the stair or it may fall outside. Douglas Mills 1000hrsFallout3. ...Midsummers day ..21st June 2009..UK..+++++++ Trial 1: You can get the Firelance EVERY TIME you play the game from the beginning. Proof: After leaving the Vault go STRAIGHT to Megaton+++++ Go straight to Craterside Supplies and see Moira Brown ++++ Take the Minefield task++++ Walk from Magaton to Minefield+++++Go into the Gibson House on the left++++Immediately leave the Gibson House+++++.SAVE location standing outside the Gibson House+++++Go nowhere else++++ Walk up the steep path at the side of the Gibson House towards the water tower++++++ If the FIRELANCE event is goung to occur on that walk, there will be a sonic boom as you pass the Pylon with the wire hanging down,4 paces actually,and in front up in the sky,will be  a trail of puffy smoke from left to right, followed to by two explosions over the top of the Water Tower.You will see a spiral of blueish light that vanishes into a spot, followed by an explosion a short distance away above the tower. The FIRELANCE and AMMO will fall in and arround the compound which will become RAD 1 for a few seconds.You may see some bits fall over the cliff to your right. Some may or may not fall over the cliff into Minefield.Depending up the event,the placings of the gun and ammo are random and you may need Dogmeat to find either all the ammo or the Firelance since it falls over rocky places and can get hidden.Unlike the Alien Blaster the Firelance is undamaged and brand new. If the event does not occur on this trip you can reload from outside the Gibson house and will find a variety of up to 100 different events that will occur at random at the rear of the water tower compound.From a Giant Rad scorpions with a Fridge, to raiders, to a pack of savage dogs, to 3 Talon mercs,to A female doctor who will help,, to Ben  Canning buried up to his waste, to 4 raiders beating up one raider who if you go to help then attacks you,lol, to A crippled Death Claw with a dead Wastelander, to a group of Zombies standing round an oil drum fire, 4 mole rats, and a number of other combinations as well .maybe over 100 in all. But one of these earlier events will include the FIRELANCE EVENT during your trip to the water tower. You can get the FIRELANCE event in every game from the start as long as you don`t leave it too long or the event may occur on its own somewhere else and others may pick it up. Ammo appearance best seen at night if you want to see the bluish swirl of the ammo appearing. Doug Mills 1000hrs Fallout3 19th June 2009 UK.Hope this is of some help+++++++++++++ Saving the Firelance event and variations: If you can hit the save button before the the two explosions and replay the event you will find that the ammo spins out of a blue green swirl, and the Firelance out of an explosion. Every time you replay the scene you will get different results. Sometimes the Ammo falls over an area of 40 paces by 40 paces including falling into Minefield, and sometimes it falls onto a small tight area of open ground just outside of the tower compound .It all depends on the variable height of the explosions that trigger the fall and the variations in the distance between the spawns.Sometimes the Firelance spawns ahead of the Ammo and sometimnes behind. sometimes above and sometimes below. These are all variables. This causes considerable variables in where the Firelance will fall in relation to the ammo and large variable in the area of ground covered by the ammo.I had one occassion where the blue green swirl was at a greater height than usual and the ammo sprayed all over the slope and into Minefield.This would cause some observers to find it very difficvult to locate all the ammo or the gun not at all. Doug Mills 1000hrs Fallout3 20th June 2009 UK.+++++++++++

I also got it at super duper mart at lvl. 2. The guy who had it took down three raiders and a dog. Is this just a glitch or is it supposed to happpen?


 * From my experience, those raiders are set to spawn there, so my theory is this: the Super-Duper Mart itself is set to be a random encounter location, so it's possible for the Firelance to drop there as you come within the appropriate distance of it. The Raiders out front are usually pretty poorly equipped. Due to NPC AI, my guess is that when such an awesome gun falls out of the sky near a thug with a crap pistol, his instinct is to pick it up and use it for himself. Not really a bug, just a logical chain of if/then scenarios based upon some things we know as facts.--VwllssWndr 23:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Wall... of... text... too large... can't... read... *hurgh-blah* --TheREALBloodscar 08:03, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I have recieved it twice, once in each of my games, both within a stone's throw of power plants on opposite corners of the map. Once was at a very early level, level 6, the other was level 20. PhoenixTril 09:03, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I got firelance at an extremely early level (2) as a NPC had one one him (outside the super-duper mart), so it is a random event of some sort. The event also includes a scattering of ammo in the area, in the form of singles on the ground (in this situation at least). I have a save file where I have the items and my level is 3ish, but I do not believe that I have one of me looting it, or directly before finding it. I may have a save file directly before exiting the vault however, and can see if the event will re-trigger. Eshru 11:30, 7 November 2008 (UTC) Saw the comment about luck, and thought I'd reinforce it, as the character I rolled that stumbled across it at level two had 8 or so luck. Eshru 15:37, 17 November 2008 (UTC) i have 10 luck lvl 17 and every flippen random encouter i have is a group of stupid barmin!sighed jok3r32

Just got a Firelance falling on me right from the sky with a pile of alien energy cells near Meresti Trainyard. Wohooo :)--Merinid 17:38, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I got the Firelance, when I travelled North/East of Minefield, first encountered The Roach King, after killing him/her I then travelled onwards, I saw this brilliant blue flash in the sky above a destroyed highway and I legged it down there, to find the weapon with Dogmeat by telling him to find me a weapon. --Three Dog's understudy 10:18, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

I was about 3 klicks away from the Republic of Dave, headed there, when I saw a huge green explosion off in the distance. A few alien power cells in groups of two (2) came down around me, so I hauled ass over to the site of the flash. When I got there(Chaste Acres Dairy Farm) however, I found more Alien Power Cells, but not the Firelance. There was a significant Raider presence there, though I'm not sure if that is random or a scripted part of the game, and more Cells scattered about the barn and bushes. I wiped out the Raiders, looted all their bodies, and still couldn't find the Firelance. The only place that I can think of where it may have gotten stuck or landed is atop the grain silo or the barn, both of which are inaccessible because I'm on X360. Does this mean I can't get it anymore? -J, 00:39, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'll phrase it better. Dogmeat can get it from inaccessable places, just send him off and 'wait'. Fat Man Spoon 00:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Ohh! My bad, I erased your comment accidently. I thought something was up when I saw Fat Man Spoon under my comment. Whoops! Thanks, I'll try again with Dogmeat; I didn't realize he could pull stunts like that. XD

When I was at the Super-duper Mart, Jericho and I just took out about five raiders. I headead to Jericho and asked him to trade equipment. While trading I noticed he had firelance on him. It was the oddest thing cause after seeing it I came to the Vault on my computer and looked it up and it said you can only get it on the pc but I have a PS3 and I got it it is just so akward.

--- I just got the Firelance earlier today. I was on my way to Fort Independence coming from Vault 101 and I heard a large explosion. I looked up into the sky and saw a trail of black smoke. I followed the trail down to a somewhat secluded are beneath a rockline/cliff. I found 16 Alien Blaster cells but I couldn't find the Firelance. I then waited until nighttime so the cells would glow to find easier, and I brought Dogmeat with me and told him to find me a weapon. He brought me back teh Firelance =]

damage calculation
Tested in game with NPC with no armor: with 100 skill and says i got a critical hit. forceav health to standardize health. getav health to get the health. Results: 1. better crit only = 200 damage + burning for 10 damage. 2. pyro only = 200 + burning for 10 damage 3. pyro and better crit perk. 240damage + burning for 10 damage. 4. with sneak crit= 480+ burning for 10 damage.

with 1, 2, and 3. you can see that pyro does not apply to critical damage, nor the burning. Therefore the damage formula: damage=sneakattack((base damage*pyro)+(critical damage*better crit)) +burning in numbers: 2((80*1.5)+(80*1.5))+2(5seconds) = 480 Numbers add up and I am happy. I haven't tested those 2 perks for other weapons yet, but may be on a rainy day.

-I moved the following from the main page, since it doesn't seem relevant. If you feel can still replace the fatman, go ahead and move it back. 240 is hardly a replacement. Though, it is still an awesome weapon.

making it a viable emergency weapon replacement for the Fat Man if your Energy Weapons is high enough, since it's significantly lighter, you normally have more ammo for it, it fires faster, it is easier to aim, and you will not accidentally kill yourself or any allies with it.

--LAffindude 18:25, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Rifle?
Why is the Firelance located in the two handed weapons on here?

cuz sum1 was bein stupid 69.140.35.147 03:23, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Meresti Trainyard

 * Not at Meresti Trainyard. I saw the article this morning and noticed that someone said it was there.. Checked just now and it is not and noticed that someone has already corrected the wiki. Thanks!


 * Actually, it does spawn at this location. I was surprised (and caught off guard) when I was entering the train yard for the 1st time and head the event explosion.  I still need to locate the weapon itself, but I did find 21 of the 24 power cells!  (I've checked on top of the trains - to the best of my ability - and even the roof of 1 of the buildings, but no luck.)--71.105.97.14 16:59, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Confirmed that it can happen here. It is a random enounter, and it's never a sure thing - my first playthrough I never found it.  On my second playthrough, I didn't hear the explosion but noticed an Alien Power Cell on the ground just inside the Meresti fence.  Having read the Wiki article, I searched diligently and found it had fallen on top of the concrete roof over the train station gate.  Getting up there involved stacking barrels and jumping repeatedly for half an hour, but it eventually worked.  Keep your eyes open, guys. 216.254.28.72 21:37, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Easter Egg Origins
This is probably an Easter Egg related to the original Post-Nuclear Adventure game, Wasteland, which was Fallout 1's ideological predecessor. Back then you had paragraph books that came with the games so the gamemakers could have verbose narratives without using disk space. Half of the paragraphs were real, the other half entirely fictional, and partially followed an entirely incorrect plotline where the heroes went to Mars and fought a war using weapons called Firelances. It seems reasonable that the Firelance here is a reference back to that original game's original Easter Egg. Happy hunting, and may your Uzi never jam!


 * So... why don't you put that in the Easter Eggs? Fourthgeartapped 04:03, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm not a registered user. :p 67.175.247.91 11:49, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, this is also mentioned here.

{102}{}{Hey, are you from really far away? Have you had a lot of adventures?}

{103}{}{Yes, I'm from a Vault far to the north.}

{104}{}{Actually, I'm from Mars. Want to see my firelance?}

{105}{}{I've had some adventures.}

Fat Man Spoon 20:19, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

NPCs Carrying Firelances
Are the NPCs that are being found with Firelances (one note said Enclavers have had it) spawning with the weapon or are they only happening upon the crash-site encounter and picking the weapon up?

I know that NPCs will pick up a weapon if it's an improvement to their current loadout. And since it is very difficult to find parts to repair a Firelance it would be instructive to know what to look for: certain types of NPCs or the crashed UFO random encounter?Antimike 00:06, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

The one I found was picked up by the npc, it was just a raider. Eshru 01:38, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I just picked up my first Firelance off a Talon Company merc. Never saw the "event". --AshRandom 05:17, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Was walking due west of the circular road/cul de sac on the far east end of the map (SE of Corvega Factory), when I heard the crash. After scouring the immediate area, I noticed a lone Enclave soldier in the distance. After he spotted me, the soldier pulled out the Firelance and proceeded to nearly crispify my poor self. At least I didn't have to scour the brush. :)

Firelance vs Alien Blaster
So the unique Firelance does less damage than the normal Alien Blaster? 80 vs 100? Am I missing something there? 208.97.121.178 16:18, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Pyromaniac. --Macros 17:20, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

The Firelance does slightly less direct damage, but has the added effect of igniting the target on fire for a small amount of damage per second. With the Pyromaniac perk, it tends to do more damage than the standard Alien Blaster. The Firelance also has three times the critical hit chance, as 3% versus 1% with the Alien Blaster. Personally, I get a critical with almost every shot to the head, even with low-level and low-skilled characters.

FieroGT42 20:14, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Raiders Packing Heavy
In a recent run through the Super Duper Mart I stumbled upon something weird... Every single raider had one of these weapons on his or her body, each with one power cell. So at this very moment I have 14 Firelance weapons...I'm not complaining, this is a great thing for me but it is extremely odd. Munsterd Oslam

Wow,awesome,reminds me of the time when multiple firelance encounters hapened at once for me,i was standing on a cliff near canterbury commons,when i saw a ton of the UFO'S crashing into the ground,so i searched the immediate area and now have 1152 alien powers cells and 17 firelances,wow i never thought spawning glitches were any good Werewolfhell 17:54, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

unfortunate
i have tryed every possible locations to find this goddamn weapon, but i didn't. I'M level 20 and i have not even came close to finding this encounter. would some people please tell me the place they got it, their luck #, and their level. MUCH APPRECIATED
 * Deathclaw Sanctuary luck 10, lvl 14. [[Image:Ash_Nuke.jpg]] AshRandom (Talk) 04:53, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I got my Firelance at level 2 (with 7 luck) in the barn right behind Vault 101. I saved before approaching the barn and reloaded the game several times. (I was trying for the Deathclaw Gauntlet schematic, decided the Firelance was better in the long run when it came up instead.)--VwllssWndr 04:10, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Level is irrelevant, the list of locations are listed and it WIll spawn at any ONE location. If it still doesn't spawn then I would have recommended to search every site as you have done, but I don't think you looked very hard. It may have just glitched and got stuck in the sky or clipped through the ground. Unless there's another glitch, you will never get the Firelance on that profile.

no, believe me i tried so hard that i at least spent over 20 hours total on all locations.(there is 160 locations which means i spent 45 minutes at each one)

Outside of the mechanist lair (robot repair center) I found sevaral alien powers cells outside the front door, followed all of them until my marker turned squared (as it does when you look at a item you can pick up) eventually i found the firelance. By that time i had around 15 power cells but there might have been more if i looked around abit more. --Al bukhari

I was walking south of megaton under some broken bridge. I saw the crash and rushed to the area all excited. i found 6 cells and i could see the firelance on some high rock or bridge fragment.....but as far as i know, there was no way to get up there...only time i've ever seen the random event-Tgrady247(patched 360)
 * You should have shot it with a rifle, things go flying when you do that. [[Image:Ash_Nuke.jpg]] AshRandom (Talk) 12:11, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

What if I totally missed the encounter. Back when I was maybe level 10 I was wandering around and experienced what I now know to be the encounter but I have no idea where it was. Am I SOL? This kinda sucks, I was trying to get as many unique weapons as possible, if not all of them.

Chaste Acres Dairy Farm, Luck 6, Level 21 - BE WARNED! I got the event; saw the flash and had Alien Power Cells rain down on me, but never found the darn Firelance. It might've gotten stuck atop one of the buildings there, but there's no way up, so I have no way of confirming it. Repeated reloads have yielded nothing.

It happened for me between Chaste Acres Dairy Farm and Old Olney right at the Red Rocket enclosure, next to the truck with all the Nuka Cola crates inside. Level 20, 6 luck. Firelance ended up sitting right in the trunk of one of the cars.

UFO Random Encounter
I think the encounter is more than just luck dependent, it's quite possibly level dependent too. At level 9 with ten luck I'm unable to get it to occur after 200 attempts in a random encounter location where I've received it before. Lowest level I've managed it so far is 14. Has anyone gotten it earlier than this? Looking for confirmation. (Xbox360, unpatched). AshRandom (Talk) 06:33, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Not level dependent! Been confirmed by many users as having been triggered at very low levels. So if you haven't seen it, you're just unlucky ;) [[Image:Ash_Nuke.jpg]] AshRandom (Talk) 19:01, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

It's the very definition of "random". --MadDawg2552 19:14, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LEVEL 3 Luck set at 10: Went to the Moira task Mine field and instead of walking into the town and mines walked up the steep slope towards the water tower above the town. A loud overhead bang was heard and a light hole appeared in the clouds. A firelace fell into the water tower compound and ammunition fell around the general area to within 30 yards radius of the tower .Some fell over the cliff and into the town and I had to get Dogmeat to go and fetch them as they were in difficult positions. I recovered 24 single cells = 24 shots The Firelance as found was Dam 51 Wg 2 Val 749 CND 100% EFFECTS HP-2 2(5secs).It is more powerful than the Alien blaster I found later. Apart from turning the target to a pile of ash there is also a burst of flame that lasts after the target has been turned into ash. I tried it out on 3 raiders and 2 mutants and it turned 3 raiders and two mutants into ash using up the HP on VATS and 5 shots. The Firelance is very fragile and damages just by firing it. Firing all 20 shots will reduce the Firelance to Dam 45 Val 420 CND 75%

1000 hrs Fallout. XBOX 360 May 19th 2009 UK. The Firelance event does not re-trigger upon reloading the Minefield scene at level 3 Luck 10 ..Instead I get a variation of Mutants, Rad scoprions, Raiders, Mole rats,Talon Mercs, or nothing spawning by the water tower. 1000hrs Fallout 3 XBOX 360 May 24th 2009 UK. Does anybody know if there are other falls of blue ammo from the sky or is there only one Firelance and one ammo event?

Mine keeps dissapeering from my inventory then respawns where i first shot it :(

Dogmeat question
I had the event happen to me at Temple of the Union. So far, I have found almost all of the cells (only missing three), but I have yet to find the weapon itself. Query: Is it safe to fast-travel away from this location, get Dogmeat from my home, and bring him back to find the Firelance? Will it still be there? Or do I have to agonizingly and manually search every inch of this very visually busy area? --PwnzerfaustMonk 10:25, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, its safe to leave that area, the weapon will not vanish. Only problem that u can run into is the fact, that the weapon could be stuck on some building / object and is out of reach. If u play on PC, u can enter the console and type TCL. This command will toggle clip on/off, so u can walk in any direction thru all objects. [[Image:Youtube1smaller.jpeg]] CryonBrion (Talk) 10:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the assurance! I travelled away, got Dogmeat, came back, and he found it like it was nothing (damn thing was hidden JUST underneath a little piece of rubble). I play on the 360, so if I couldn't use Dogmeat, I probably would have shot myself before long. :P --PwnzerfaustMonk 10:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Forced Encounter
Ok, I've been trying to force a firelance encounter next to the vault 101 barn and the jalbert brothers D sight. I've reloaded dozens of times and still no luck. Is there a lower % chance for this encounter to happen compared with other less rewarding encounters? I've cycled through lots of other random encounters, but still no sign of this one. Maybe it's already happened...

That would suck!

If it has, your screwed. If not, try going to the war memorial. Go from megaton to whilm's warf (or something like that) You must approach warf from the south, then from the little deck, save, then jump in the water and swim to memorial. if it doesnt happen, reload, and try again. You cannot have already descovered the war memorial in order for this to work. I tried it for ages and it didnt work, went to bed, woke up, tried again and it worked the first time. with LVL 6 Luck. So keep trying, bear in mind, it doesnt happen at every random encounter location

Specific spawn locations
By that, I mean can we create a list of exactly where the Firelance lands at each location? (I.e., In Meresti, it tends to fall [x]; near the VAPL-84 station it tends to land [y]; etc.)

I've had this event occur at a couple of locations and while I've found the power cells, I have yet to locate the Firelance itself. (Jericho picked it up for me when it happened near the VAPL-84 station. I didn't have a companion when it first appeared, so I went back after I hired him. We got attacked by Raiders and a Yao Guai, and when I checked Jericho's inventory he had the pistol.)

It would be very helpful to have more exact details on where the damn pistol tends to land as it can be almost impossible to spot if it lands in brush, on top of buildings, and so on! Since the system must spawn it based on specific spawn points, it must appear in the same place in the same location - short of bouncing randomly - mustn't it?--71.105.97.14 19:04, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I had the "event" happen to me at the Anchorage Memorial when I was looking for the Keller Family recordings. I heard the explosion but didn't see it and ran to the "look out" area at the top of the stairs and recieved radiation and saw scattered Alien powercells and then literally ran into the Firelance with it about three feet off of the ground just in front of the statue. I had loaded a save file about four times just before I disarmed the mines when coming from the docks. 12.74.22.39 21:40, 3 April 2009 (UTC)≤shorty:p≥ not an actual user

Can someone answer this question, say if I have the encounter but I accidentally go into an autosave without getting the gun. Am I screwed or can I reload from a previous save and try to find it again?

I made a bet with my brother that the weapon and ammo spawn randomly each time the event is triggered. He maintains it will spawn in the exact same spot as long as you keep triggering the event at the same location. Can anyone shed some light on this subject? We're trying it out now, but some people have gotten to level 20 without ever getting this event, and now we're trying to trigger it a second time. Looks like I'll be up for the night. Oh, what some people will do for a hundred dollars. ''Edit: Not 15 minutes later and I see glowing blue ammo rain from the sky. Now I'm $100 richer. What a good day :D'' 122.148.180.136 14:05, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I need a answer to this question say the event happens and I accidentally went into an autosave with out getting the gun am I screwed or can I reload


 * First, sign your posts, second, do not repeatedly ask the same question in one post and thirdly, you can try an autosave but I cannot guarantee it will work.--Kingclyde 05:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Cleaned Up the Encounter Locations
I reduced the "triggering the event" article to a reference to the random encounters page, reluctantly leaving the barn strategy as it's unique in its relative ease early on. Anyone object? Techercizer (say hi)(pwnage) 22:31, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

== Ideal Event Location ==

Anyone know of an ideal random encounter location to trigger this at? That is, one with minimal buildings and scenery for the Firelance and ammo to land on making it inaccessible.J. Smythe 14:42, 29 May 2009 (UTC)....NO!.... the worst one might be the Anchorage War Memorial because some of the Alien Cell have a tendency to end up at the bottom of the Potomac. The Easiest and nearest to the Vault is the Dutch barn R/O 101 Luck set on 10 Level 2. Another hard one is Minefield.Level 4.Luck set at 10.Make you way to minefield ASAP from the direction given to you from Megaton and enter the Gibson house on the left before the street mines.Leave the Gibson house.This then locks you into minefield.Leave the Gibson House and head west up the path towards the pylon at 43 paces up the slope. The pylon with the wires hanging down. The Event always appeares coming from the North,and ends in a double explosion over the target area. In thios case the Water Tower on top the cliffs.Ammo will rain down along with the Firelance. The Firelance may or may not fall in the water tower compound.Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn`t,some of the ammo may or may not fall over the cliff and into Minefield.If it does you will have to get "dog meat" to help in the search.Look for 24 white/blue glowing cells. You will find,1 Firelance. Wg 2 Value 749 Damage 46 with HP -2(5s) with fire and 24 ammo cells. If the event does not occur then reload back to the Gibson House and start again. In any case you will get at least Fifty different encounters up by the water tower from an attack by a pack of dogs, to a hold up by a guy with a sawn off shotgun and no ammo,to a Deathclaw with an injured foot to a Wasteland Doctor who is very helpful, to 4 mole rats, 3 Zombies, 3 Talon Mercs, wastlander fleeing a giant Rad scorpion guarding a fridge, to Ben Canning buried up to his waste in soil and so on until you get the Firelance. Guaranteed to repeat for different games providing you don`t let so much time pass that the event occurs somewhere else on its own. User. 1000hrs Fallout3 16th June 2009 UK.
 * I got the firelance northeast of bethesda ruins. Two dudes were fighting over water, so I reloaded and instead, I got firelance. I gave it to crazy wolfgang though. I hate wasting limited ammo.--TheFrogger 16:10, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Triggering videos
I'm going to be moving the triggering videos to here because this is a random event. I have had it at different places. I even tried it for fun one night as per the video. This is a random event so thus the videos are kinda useless--Kingclyde 21:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

YouTube Videos from article
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 * If you don't feel like spending too much time, you can save at the NORTH end of the Memorial parking lot so the swimming is not needed.

Random Encounters Explained

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--Kingclyde 21:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

More info moved during cleanup
The Firelance appears only in Fallout 3. It can only be obtained through the UFO random encounter.

The random event has a better chance of happening with a higher luck stat. You will hear and see something which looks mostly like an artillery strike, except it explodes in a green explosion before hitting the ground. Then something crashing and skittering across the ground will be heard, similar to knocking over a large object.The explosion looks similar to a plasma rifle shot impacting.


 * The explosion is a random encounter and can happen in a select few locations of the game.

After the explosion, the immediate area will be strewn with Alien Power Cell ammo and the Firelance. Unfortunately, it is in no particular pattern, and the player will have to search the immediate area to find the ammo (there are 24 total) and the Firelance on their own.

The Firelance will need some careful searching for (best by daylight) as it is small and blends in with the surroundings. Dogmeat is incredibly useful for this situation, as he can be told to search for a weapon and he'll fetch the Firelance. Dogmeat can also search for ammo and retrieve the alien power cells. Alternatively, wait until night time and look for the ammo, which glows blue in the dark. It is important to note that if an NPC discovers the Firelance during a combat situation they will pick up and equip the weapon. Confirmed NPC's include Raiders, Enclave and wasteland scavengers. This can be very dangerous, as at low levels a Raider with the Firelance can kill you in a few shots.

The items can sometimes become stuck in the sky, you can turn off clipping (console command: ) to get them.

Unfortunately, the weapon is likely to get stuck on buildings like a water tower in the wasteland. Your best bet is to try and blast it off with explosives, ideally frag grenades. The best place to find the Firelance  is the barn  by 101 and 106


 * The Firelance Event is a unique encounter limited to one and only one occurence per player-character.


 * Once a random encounter has occurred at a specific random encounter location, a different random encounter will not occur in the same location for the rest of the game. (See Fallout 3 random encounters for more details)


 * It is possible to miss the sound effects or visual clues to indicate that the Firelance has fallen. If you find yourself approaching a random encounter location, there are no creatures on radar, and your Geiger counter starts registering trace amounts of radiation, start looking for the power cells.

Finding the Firelance and power cells

 * Dogmeat is very helpful for locating both the Firelance and the alien power cells: simply ask him to scavenge for a weapon or ammo in the area where the event triggers. It may be a good idea to follow him closely, however.


 * Star Paladin Cross is helpful too, she can pick it up and you can just take it from her inventory.


 * If you do not find the weapon and all the ammo on PC, and do not have Dogmeat with you: and   console commands can help as some of the cells might be invisible because of their placement. Using  you can find and get those cells too.


 * Using tcl the moment you trigger the event also allows you to float up to the explosion, where there will be a compact area conveniently containing the Firelance and all 24 Cells.


 * The Firelance may be found on NPC's: it has been found on Enclave Soldiers, a Raider in front of Super-Duper Mart, a Raider at Farragut West Metro Station with no ammo, and in perfect condition on a Talon Company Mercenary at Fort Bannister, along with 1 Alien Power Cell. Be careful should this be the case; it could prove deadly should you be attacked, and even a 1-hit-kill if you're a low level (acutally this is typically not the case because a level 2 character can survive 2-3 shots of it, tested at Super-Duper Mart).


 * it can also be obtained by going to bethesda ruins and going to the wrecked bus,then save.follow the road to the petrol station outside of bethesda ruins and keep your gun aimed at the sky the whole time.if it doesn't occur,then reload the game and do the same thing until it does.(xbox360 confirmed)If you cant find it(ie,it's stuck in a rock or something)the reload the game and keep trying until you get it.(note:there is raiders in bethesda ruins and is not advisable to go if you are low level and when you stop at the petrol station,there could be two giant radscorpions)


 * If by chance the event happens and Dogmeat is either dead or you have not found him yet, and you are having trouble finding the weapon, and you happen to be near a known raider area, or a village/camp/place with several NPCs (as an example, there is a random encounter near Tenpenny Tower), there is a lengthy, yet effective method that can be used. First, find an area where the ammo seems to be most abundant. Mark that spot on the map and save your game. Make any followers you have stand far away from this area, and then head for the raiders or village/camp/town/etc. Find someone who will chase you (i.e. shoot a guard, or approach a raider) and have them follow you back to the location of the ammo. Save again (on a new space) once you arrive. Make sure to kill off any other people who may have followed you leaving just one enemy and then, either attempt to shoot the weapon from their hand, or if you have it, use the Mesmetron and take all their guns. After letting them go they should proceed to try to strike you. Back away until they run off in search of a gun. With luck, the nearest weapon will be the Firelance. If they pick it up, remember EXACTLY where they picked it up, then load your first save (the one right after the event occurred). Go to the location where the enemy picked up the weapon and it should be there. While this may sound complicated, it is actualy fairly simple to accomplish and can save a lot of time.

Triggering the event
See the random encounter list for a complete list of static locations of these random events.


 * With luck, the Firelance can be discovered right after completing Escape!. Behind the entrance of Vault 101 is a small farm with a barn and a silo. The barn itself is a random encounter location and the Firelance can drop there. The benefit to obtaining the Firelance early is self evident, as it eliminates the risk that would be incurred by immediately traveling to Rivet city or the Deathclaw Sanctuary. (I agree; upon leaving Vault 101 with a luck of 8 I was able to get the Firelance here after about 30 tries. It didn't take long to find all 24 cells either.)

Tips
With the right Perks and enough skill in Energy Weapons -- or at least a high number of Action Points -- the Firelance can reduce the usually difficult Super Mutant Behemoths to a smoking pile of dust in a single combat round in VATS.

Star Paladin Cross is likely to pick this weapon up, as she does with most energy weapons.

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--Kingclyde 01:03, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

FIRELANCE
LEVEL 30 NO FIRELANCE WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE TO GO FOR IT TO HAPPEN

Lots of comments say that the barn and silo near Vault 101 is good, I've never seen the event there personally. You could try Super Duper Mart as well; I get tons of randoms there, ranging from Talon Company Mercs/Regulators to the one with the Wastelanders fighting over a fridge of water to the Oasis event and even the Deathclaw Schematic event there as well. No matter where you try, Dogmeat is advised to make the search that much easier.

I GOT FIRELANCE!!!
I got the fire lance while on the way to tepid sewers for the wasteland survival guide at lvl 7 I had Jericho with me and was at the war memorial. I then heard an explosion and looked up. there was an explosion in the sky. I the notice there were small blue canisters on the floor, after picking the up they turned out to be alien power cells. after picking up a few I got into a fight with some centaurs. I noticed Jericho was using a strange weapon i then took the weapon off him and found out he was using a fire lance


 * So......?--TheFrogger 21:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * so w00t! 69.140.35.147 03:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Phoenix?
whoever said the alien blaster/firelance looks like phoenix from perfect dark must not have played the game in a long time, there is completely no resemblance whatsoever, I'm going to remove that bit unless someone says otherwise.

Does how high your luck level is affect if the event happens to you?
 * I think so, it happened to me and some other people with luck 10.--TheFrogger 19:42, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Dogmeat grabbed clipped firelance
It never occurred to me until months later, but I just recently asked a friend if he ever picked up the alien power cells outside of Alexandria Arms. He said there weren't any there, then it dawned on me (after 8 months) that this was the site for my game's firelance. I immediately set out for the firelance, but couldn't find it anywhere in that location. So I brought Dogmeat along. To my horror when I told him to go fetch me a weapon, he started running at a wall. THE DAMN FIRELANCE CLIPPED INTO THE WALL! I gave up and told him to find ammo, he did find some alien power cells, until he started running up against a wall. So I thought maybe I'll just walk into Alexandria Arms and come back out, somehow Fallout will pull a miracle. When I came back out to look for Dogmeat, he ran up to me and gave me the alien power cell. My jaw dropped. So I repeated the steps that I did, but this time telling him to grab me a weapon. Dogmeat got the firelance! Now I don't know if this works for all situations. Maybe it could work for firelances stuck in the air. Just note that for my situation the firelance fell into Alexandria Arms and there was a door close by (maybe quick traveling could work too if you're out in the open.) I don't know how far or deep the firelance went into the building. If you are going to try this, I suggest making a separate save if you don't want a permanently clipped firelance.

--Ringored 04:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, once, I went over the "impassable" rubble and got behind alexandria arms. I think you can get there either via the citadel glitch or something near anacostia crossing. Anyways, from going behind there I can see how that would happen. There are open spots it can fall into (They don't make every part of buildings, just the parts you can see).--TheFrogger 21:03, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

wow got it at lvl 12
im not sure what the hell just happened but i just got the firelance at level 12 rightafter getting the alien blaster  this is awesome  that you guys i would of disregarded the random explosion  if i didnt look at this site

actually i got it at level 9 with 8 luck 10 perception 6 str
im on ps3 so im not sure it matters64.85.227.209 00:13, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

unsure if i've found it or not...
ok, so i fast traveled to the citadel, only to be greeted with the sound of the firelance event as i've seen it on youtube, but there were two explosions that actually touched ground. i looked around and couldn't find the gun, so i saved, then went back to my auto-save from before the fast travel, and tried again. but it actually happened two more times, which is making me skeptical, because if it was the random encounter, the odds of it happening 3 times in a row are slim right?

i have the broken steel add-on, and this is my first time being in front of the citadel since beating the main quest before the expansion, so maybe it's just two rockets that never touched ground during the last quest and are now doing so? i'd really appreciate some input so i know whether or not to keep looking for the firelance. -Silent (6-26-09)

Yeah, I've had that happen before, only on that big yellow bridge. Seems the Enclave's long range missiles don't have the shortest fuses. It ain't Firelance. Nitpicker of the Wastes 14:22, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

thanks for the help. -Silent

Trial 1 works!!!
Thanks 4 ur help mate!!

I did the minefield test, and it work great!! Random events every time!! I havn't yet got the Firelance event, but i reckon there are way more than 100 random events. You can find groups of Regulators, Hunters, Scavengers and wastlanders. You can find packs of pretty much every animal in the game. You can also find groups of people arguing over water, one time i thought i had got the Firelance event because i heard an explosion, but it turned out to be wastelanders trying, and failing to disarm some mines.

I'll post back once i get the Firelance

Found FireLance spaceship general area
well it seems that the random encounter most commonly appears near the alien crash site. I have played the game 3 time over and all of my encounters have been in the general area of the alien crash site. My first encounter was right in front of vault 92, second being on the broken bridge below the crash site, third being downhill below alien crash site.

Southeast of Girdershade
I was hiking up to Girdershade from Tenpenny Tower (a northeastwardly trip) and came across a diner which was in pretty good condition inside and had no loot. As I started back towards Girdershade, I saw an explosion in the sky and a smoke trail, but didn't know which came first. I've played F3 *at least* a half dozen times and never seen the Firelance event, so it didn't dawn on me at first what it was. When it finally occurred to me, I advanced time 8 hours (from 2 p.m.) to make it easier to see and started looking for the power cells, eventually finding a lot of them, but don't know if I got them all. Unfortunately, I haven't gotten to Dogmeat yet, so no help there. The weapon was laying out in the open - easy to find. Stats: Level 12, but haven't done a lot of exploring; all DLCs, no companions.


 * Er, so? Fat Man Spoon 17:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Good point...no one here honestly gives a shit. Butter 17:27, 29 June 2009 (UTC)